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RonPaulwillWin
06-11-2010, 12:32 PM
Because his opponent is a Jedi master politician :D. You can skip to about the 2 minute mark.

YouTube - Keith Olbermann Interviews Alvin Greene - 06/10/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntlp4fTell4&feature=player_embedded)

Aratus
06-11-2010, 12:34 PM
this is the year of the RANDSLIDE! IMOHO there is a decidely obvious anti-hack and anti-d.c vibe...
sen. jim demint should run the race as if he is ten points behind becuz the voters are quite upset.
either Democrat if tapping the deeper populism in a big way could trigger an upset for one just did!

eqcitizen
06-11-2010, 12:36 PM
If this guy was a republican, keith would be tearing him apart....I hate this man.

low preference guy
06-11-2010, 12:38 PM
I think this guy is a greater risk to DeMint than a regular politician/judge/lawyer.

Aratus
06-11-2010, 12:38 PM
yes... the voters are in a mood. even if the guy was someone's plant he sent an auld judge to retirement!

CoreyBowen999
06-11-2010, 12:39 PM
is this guy a joke?

Nate-ForLiberty
06-11-2010, 12:39 PM
wow. this is going to get interesting.

RonPaulFanInGA
06-11-2010, 12:39 PM
If this guy was a republican, keith would be tearing him apart....I hate this man.

Yep.

This man, being a democrat, could be on film murdering someone and Olbermann would still be focusing on and going crazy over Rand Paul's non-matching socks and Sharron Angle's speeding ticket. :rolleyes:

Aratus
06-11-2010, 12:41 PM
trey grayson is still trying to figure out why the polls were off...
the same can be said of ms. martha coakley ...and i kid you not!!!
i think all the 1990s up until 2006 narrowcasting data is totally off...

TonySutton
06-11-2010, 01:22 PM
I am thinking this is a case where voters were at the primary to vote in specific races and then just looked for a name that was familiar to vote in races they were not familiar with. If I were a black democrat I would vote for Greene before I would vote for Rawl.

sailingaway
06-11-2010, 01:25 PM
De Mint will be fine. WE'RE on his side in South Carolina... :D

anaconda
06-11-2010, 01:29 PM
What the heck is "felony obscenity?"

This guy has pushed the envelope on new interview techniques!

anaconda
06-11-2010, 01:31 PM
OK what's going on with the Democratic nomination in South Carolina?

Krugerrand
06-11-2010, 01:31 PM
If somebody were to legally change their name to Somebody Else they could win a lot of elections.

Dreamofunity
06-11-2010, 01:34 PM
What the fuck, that was terrible. How could that guy win anything?

messana
06-11-2010, 01:34 PM
Wow DeMint will be crushed in the debates.

MikeStanart
06-11-2010, 01:38 PM
Ya know, I"m totally fine with this.

If anything, we should be worried about parties creating new and more restrictive laws to prevent outsiders from being nominated such as this.

I'm fine with this because ease of ballot access is crucial or we'd surely remain serfs forever.

specsaregood
06-11-2010, 01:58 PM
What the fuck, that was terrible. How could that guy win anything?

I think a large part of it had to do with what somebody else suggested in another thread. His name: Al Greene.

HOLLYWOOD
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Congressman Clyburn is the plant... for special interest, lobbyists, and his own preserve pockets.

IS this video about our failed socialized education system?

specsaregood
06-11-2010, 02:05 PM
I don't know what to make of this guy, but I like him. I'm glad he won the democrat nomination rather than some establishment hack.

His opponent was a judge....I wonder if a lot of people had friends, family, neighbors that he sent to jail and if that made a big difference.

RonPaulwillWin
06-11-2010, 02:17 PM
I don't know what to make of this guy, but I like him. I'm glad he won the democrat nomination rather than some establishment hack.

His opponent was a judge....I wonder if a lot of people had friends, family, neighbors that he sent to jail and if that made a big difference.

I can picture this guy making epic speeches on the Senate floor.

YouTube - Alvin Greene's Unlikely Senate Candidacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKCGJ2Htmh4&feature=player_embedded)

RileyE104
06-11-2010, 02:39 PM
I can picture this guy making epic speeches on the Senate floor.

YouTube - Alvin Greene's Unlikely Senate Candidacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKCGJ2Htmh4&feature=player_embedded)

I like what he says around 5 minutes...

"We spend twice as much money on prisoners than students."

Maybe he is in favor of ending the War on Drugs??

MozoVote
06-11-2010, 02:52 PM
How can DeMint combat a master campaign tactician like this? He may as well just concede now...



AP quote

Asked how voters even knew who he was, Greene responded: "I think that, you know, I think that they, they saw, I think that they, you know, I just think that they recognized, I think that they heard of my name when I was campaigning across the state, you know, just to pass the word on, just by word of mouth. I just got the word around."


Greene! The man, the plan, the road to victory!

HRD53
06-11-2010, 04:48 PM
I almost feel bad for that poor bastard. Good luck in the debates Radio!

catdd
06-11-2010, 04:53 PM
Have they figured out how he got that many votes yet?

devil21
06-11-2010, 04:55 PM
Im starting the official Alvin Greene fan club. This guy grows on me more every day. Sure, Demint isn't terrible but I may throw Greene a few bucks just on principle and since Im close to SC, might even do a little campaigning for him. His platform isn't terrible actually. Lower gas prices, less police state, unified Korea (less US intervention needed)...

TIRED OF STATUS QUO POLITICIANS WORKING WITHIN THEIR RIGGED SYSTEM!

Todd
06-11-2010, 05:02 PM
Wow. Saying he doesn't interview well would be an understatement. But I hope all the jokes aside, people aren't taking this guy lightly.

RonPaulFanInGA
06-11-2010, 05:09 PM
DeMint has to be laughing about all this. This is only one very tiny step harder a race now for DeMint to win than if DeMint had been running completely unopposed.

Corto_Maltese
06-11-2010, 05:09 PM
Lol, no offence to anyone(seriously, dont mean any), but this reminds me of the stories you hear about the first black representatives in the south after the civil war.

devil21
06-11-2010, 05:11 PM
Have they figured out how he got that many votes yet?

Nothing nefarious Im sure. He benefitted from alphabetically being first on the ballot and having a name that SC blacks could identify with. Those that weren't familiar with any of the candidates naturally voted for him.

Razmear
06-11-2010, 05:34 PM
Have they figured out how he got that many votes yet?

There is no great conspiracy. People knew Rawl and knew they didn't like him, so they either did not vote in the senate race or picked the guy who wasn't Rawl.
There were 20,000 less votes for Senator than there were for Governor on the Dem side.
I've even read some posts that say they researched the two candidates positions and preferred Greene's. Greene wants to bring the troops home now, lower gas prices, and create jobs according to different pre-election websites.

If he is still on the ballot in November, I'll vote for him.

Hail Eris,
eb

PreDeadMan
06-11-2010, 05:45 PM
Not to sound disrespectful but that guy sounded uhm.... uh..... uhm... uh........................... uhm..................... uh.................. uh........................... very... uhm..... unsure..... uhm.... about what ugh..... uhm......... he was ..... what's the word... uhm....... saying.

BlackTerrel
06-11-2010, 06:22 PM
Nothing nefarious Im sure. He benefitted from alphabetically being first on the ballot and having a name that SC blacks could identify with. Those that weren't familiar with any of the candidates naturally voted for him.

Do they really just decide who to place on the ballot alphabetically? I remember reading research more than ten years ago about how whoever is named first gets considerably more votes. You would think they would institute randomization to get rid of that effect by now.

Is that nationwide or state by state?

MozoVote
06-11-2010, 06:35 PM
This guy was so under-the-radar that I don't even accept the "blacks vote for blacks" excuse. Nobody knew this guy, what his skin color was, or how he would sound on TV or radio. If he actually had campaigned, it could have brought his numbers down.

I remember something similar to this happening in a school board race once, where an incumbent lost to someone that filed and never campaigned. It is possible.

akforme
06-11-2010, 06:57 PM
Do they really just decide who to place on the ballot alphabetically? I remember reading research more than ten years ago about how whoever is named first gets considerably more votes. You would think they would institute randomization to get rid of that effect by now.

Is that nationwide or state by state?

It's random in ak

Working Poor
06-11-2010, 07:16 PM
I hope he wins I would vote for him. I like the fact that he is not a professional politician. He might just get something real done. I bet he is for ending the war on drugs...

michaelwise
06-11-2010, 07:27 PM
I like this guy Greene. He sounds honest and it was just the anti-establishment fever that propelled the "village idiot" to the top of the Dem heap in SC. I actually don't think this guy is an idiot but rather smart. He's just fatigued from his combat and military duties. I think this guy Greene can go along way but I don't want to see him unseat DeMint just because he seems not so bright. I think he would make many good voting decisions in DC, unlike the current crop on the hill. When in doubt who to vote for, vote the incumbent out, even if the incumbent is Jim DeMint. I wouldn't lose any sleep over a Greene win. If Greene loses to DeMint, I hope he runs again for another office. I wonder how Greene feels about guns?

michaelwise
06-11-2010, 07:45 PM
Al Greene kind of reminds me of this guy Chaunce Gardner in the movie Being There

YouTube - Being There -My favorite crucial scenes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfl-hafMwoU&feature=related)

AuH20
06-11-2010, 07:54 PM
There is no great conspiracy. People knew Rawl and knew they didn't like him, so they either did not vote in the senate race or picked the guy who wasn't Rawl.
There were 20,000 less votes for Senator than there were for Governor on the Dem side.
I've even read some posts that say they researched the two candidates positions and preferred Greene's. Greene wants to bring the troops home now, lower gas prices, and create jobs according to different pre-election websites.

If he is still on the ballot in November, I'll vote for him.

Hail Eris,
eb

You're really going to vote for this guy? :D He's not even a keen unemployed person that's aware of what's going on. I'm 100% behind the "send the informed citizen to Washington" but this guy is the farthest thing from that. Furthermore, I'm telling you that this guy is a huge statist, though he's probably not even aware what a statist is.

AuH20
06-11-2010, 08:04 PM
If you're going to get behind a homeless person, this is the type of guy I would recruit for state office. Listen to this man Scooter Jolley. He's articulate and of a sound mind:

YouTube - Chris Christie Town Hall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GakYEECDr4&feature=player_embedded)

BenIsForRon
06-11-2010, 08:08 PM
I like this guy Greene. He sounds honest

He sounds honest? What drugs are you on right now?

Romulus
06-11-2010, 08:36 PM
No way this guy had 10k to plop down. And that suit, who's dressing him? Seriously?

CableNewsJunkie
06-11-2010, 08:58 PM
Does anyone remember Bob Conley?

He was a Ron Paul Democrat that snuck in and won the Democratic primary in SC - went on to lose to Lindsey Graham unfortunately.

TheTyke
06-12-2010, 12:17 AM
Does anyone remember Bob Conley?

He was a Ron Paul Democrat that snuck in and won the Democratic primary in SC - went on to lose to Lindsey Graham unfortunately.

He came close, as I recall, with very little money.... I wish we'd known he really had a chance so we could have pushed him over the top. The bottom line should be that liberty candidates need to be funded, period. We need to become wealth enough to make sure of this.

justinc.1089
06-12-2010, 05:21 AM
OK what's going on with the Democratic nomination in South Carolina?

Its just like Bush said...

WE'RE KICKIN' ASS!


Pre-emptively kickin' ass too!:eek:

justinc.1089
06-12-2010, 05:32 AM
I seriously do think this is just as it seems, that he was a plant to ensure DeMint's win.

I don't think anything went on bad with the voting, and I don't think anything went on much with a campaign either, again just like it seems. I personally think some Republicans found this guy, got him to agree to run for Senate, payed for his filing, and after that didn't do much else except hope he won by some stroke of luck.

I really wouldn't consider this wrong either, maybe not even the whole money issue because I don't think people should have to pay thousands of dollars to be able to run for a political office. It would be somewhat bad still though if there is some illegal stuff going on, and to me it seems like there is. I really doubt DeMint was involved however.

Austrian Econ Disciple
06-12-2010, 05:45 AM
I seriously do think this is just as it seems, that he was a plant to ensure DeMint's win.

I don't think anything went on bad with the voting, and I don't think anything went on much with a campaign either, again just like it seems. I personally think some Republicans found this guy, got him to agree to run for Senate, payed for his filing, and after that didn't do much else except hope he won by some stroke of luck.

I really wouldn't consider this wrong either, maybe not even the whole money issue because I don't think people should have to pay thousands of dollars to be able to run for a political office. It would be somewhat bad still though if there is some illegal stuff going on, and to me it seems like there is. I really doubt DeMint was involved however.

There are some suspensions in logic needed for this. In a year such as this, in SC no less, and this candidate, and with no campaign...yeah, even the GOP isn't stupid enough to waste 10,000$ on this. No one would throw money down on something like this, especially in the mood the country is in now. DeMint is as safe as safe can be.

justinc.1089
06-12-2010, 05:52 AM
There are some suspensions in logic needed for this. In a year such as this, in SC no less, and this candidate, and with no campaign...yeah, even the GOP isn't stupid enough to waste 10,000$ on this. No one would throw money down on something like this, especially in the mood the country is in now. DeMint is as safe as safe can be.

The republicans have tons of money, and I can't see that guy having tons of money. Its easier for me to believe the republican party somewhere wasted money to get this guy's campaign started than to believe this guy is capable himself. He just appears extremely dense to me, and the idea of republicans in SC planting a democrat candidate wouldn't be a hard task really compared to other states. I mean for example in my precinct, there were only 2 democrats and around 100-120 republican voters. So no one would care if the republican party did something like that in SC really, at least not enough people to make it hard to pull off.

Plus he may have actually had some of the money himself, but not all of it. Someone may have talked him into spending like $4000-$7000 and letting someone else pay the rest. All it would take would be one wealthy person to back him. It wouldn't have to be like the official party itself, the money could come out of someone's pocket.

I mean its hilarious and has secured DeMint's victory even more than it already was, so someone may have thought it was worth several thousands dollars who knows lol...

All I'm saying is, its pretty funny and odd lol, and wouldn't be that impossible for him to be a plant lol.

low preference guy
06-12-2010, 06:15 AM
Greene is not a plant. He is just naive and has high tolerance for risk.

RforRevolution
06-12-2010, 08:22 AM
Reminds me of Ricky Bobby:
YouTube - Talladega Nights Ricky Bobby Hands (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqhkdHlCHLk)

Aratus
06-12-2010, 08:39 AM
This guy was so under-the-radar that I don't even accept the "blacks vote for blacks" excuse. Nobody knew this guy, what his skin color was, or how he would sound on TV or radio. If he actually had campaigned, it could have brought his numbers down.

I remember something similar to this happening in a school board race once, where an incumbent lost to someone that filed and never campaigned. It is possible.


Al Greene kind of reminds me of this guy Chaunce Gardner in the movie Being There

YouTube - Being There -My favorite crucial scenes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfl-hafMwoU&feature=related)


If you're going to get behind a homeless person, this is the type of guy I would recruit for state office. Listen to this man Scooter Jolley. He's articulate and of a sound mind:

YouTube - Chris Christie Town Hall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GakYEECDr4&feature=player_embedded)

how demint runs from this point on is how demint gets re-elected...
not until demint knows WHY the voters did what they did does he run a
secure and solid campaign. this is the year of the upset and if a FB page or
a tweet put this guy over the top, ESPECIALLY if he was a groundling for Obama
in 2oo8... then maybe we should ignor for now how he sounds and ask who
his cyber~friends are! i think the voters are cutting loose inside the polling
booths and are trying to avoid the DINO/RINO herd animals as the net
changes the face and pace of our current day politics most totally!!!

teamrican1
06-12-2010, 08:54 AM
There are some suspensions in logic needed for this. In a year such as this, in SC no less, and this candidate, and with no campaign...yeah, even the GOP isn't stupid enough to waste 10,000$ on this. No one would throw money down on something like this, especially in the mood the country is in now. DeMint is as safe as safe can be.

$10,000 is a pittance to DeMint or more likely one of his wealthy backers. DeMint is as safe as safe can be sure, but you still run the campaign as if you might lose. That's how winners think. DeMint's people probably looked at the race and saw a competent but virtually unknown white judge as their opponent. They noticed he had a name which (Vic Rawl) suggested in no uncertain terms that he was white and saw an opportunity. Why not ask some nobody with very black sounding name (Alvin Greene) to run against him? In the predominantly black South Carolina Democratic electorate, that's a smart move. Odds are, given two candidates they don't know, black voters are going to pull the lever for the black name. And once you get an unknown Democratic black guy on the ballot as your challenger, you've won in a statewide election in South Carolina. I do think Alvin Greene shocked even the people behind his candidacy in terms of sheer awfulness. They probably didn't know about the weird felony pornography thing and if they did they'd probably have gone with someone else just to seem less obvious.

BTW- I don't see what was done as a "dirty trick" at all. This is what "Democracy" is and precisely why our founders didn't put in direct elections for either Senate or the Presidency. A congressional district is as big a physical area you can trust for direct Democracy to work and even that is probably too big.

sratiug
06-12-2010, 09:12 AM
I watched the interviews with Olberman and Shep Smith and they both make me sick. Why is it ok to be prejudiced against poor people? They were ambush interviews. Why does he deserve this treatment when he's an army veteran and the democratic nominee for senate?

I think the more interviews that air like this the more poor and black people will recognize the agenda of the media. They are yelling at him because they were too stupid to do their jobs right. It is insane. They may as well be saying this poor black man cannot win on his own without help from rich people.

BenIsForRon
06-12-2010, 09:44 AM
They were ambush interviews.

Ambush interviews? Questions like "How did you campaign?" and "Do you have a campaign staff?" and "Where did you get the 10,000 dollars?" are ambush questions?

I am shocked by what I'm seeing in this thread. I'm thinking we have a lot of posters here that are hovering around the same intelligence level as Mr. Greene himself.

specsaregood
06-12-2010, 09:51 AM
"Where did you get the 10,000 dollars?" are ambush questions?


That is insulting, it presupposes that the man can't happen to have 10k in savings. Or his parent had it to give to him. why would you assume that? If he was a white man would you be asking that question?


I'm thinking we have a lot of posters here that are hovering around the same intelligence level as Mr. Greene himself.
Wow, more insults. What do you know about the guy? Have you ever been on national tv? I bet he was nervous and probably unprepared, yet you insinuate that he is stupid? Why? Because he is a black man?

Bunch of racist liberals; can't handle it when a black man succeeds despite them.

Aratus
06-12-2010, 09:52 AM
charles sumner would have found this election to be intensely interesting, as rand got
raked over the coals about the CRA of 1964 that was more thorough than the CRA of 1875
that was more thorough than the CRA of 1866 that andrew johnson refused to sign. in a way,
we might see alvin greene's election as a vindication of both andrew johnson's and charles sumner's
stances, for i feel the voters have INTELLIGENTLY spoken in full and only jack hunter's radio/net*radio
popularity can SAVE jim demint's senate seat for him. until you all KNOW precisely why the voters did what
they did, DON'T assume! there has to have been a fast, intense word of mouth and a very bottled & pent up rage...




we have not seen a populism like this since the tyme of either huey long or william jennings bryan!

Aratus
06-12-2010, 09:57 AM
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a week before our january election, scott brown and ms. martha coakley looked even in the polls.

trey grayson is looking totally puzzled, older, more mature and team player as he is now backing rand.

i had hoped adam kokesh would win in N.M and then john dennis rose up to challenge ms. pelosi...


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BenIsForRon
06-12-2010, 10:36 AM
That is insulting, it presupposes that the man can't happen to have 10k in savings. Or his parent had it to give to him. why would you assume that? If he was a white man would you be asking that question?


Wow, more insults. What do you know about the guy? Have you ever been on national tv? I bet he was nervous and probably unprepared, yet you insinuate that he is stupid? Why? Because he is a black man?

Bunch of racist liberals; can't handle it when a black man succeeds despite them.

I never said he was dumb because he's black. You're the one who drew that connection.

I said he was dumb because he can't form a complete sentence to a simple question.

specsaregood
06-12-2010, 10:45 AM
I never said he was dumb because he's black. You're the one who drew that connection.
I said he was dumb because he can't form a complete sentence to a simple question.

Uhuh, sure.

I noticed you avoided my first question. Why do you assume he wouldn't have the money to file for office?

BenIsForRon
06-12-2010, 11:02 AM
Why do you assume he wouldn't have the money to file for office?

He's unemployed, and taking unemployment checks from the government.

dr. hfn
06-12-2010, 11:14 AM
is this a joke?! lol

specsaregood
06-12-2010, 11:26 AM
He's unemployed, and taking unemployment checks from the government.

So? I've been unemployed and had massive savings in the past. And if he is entitled to unemployment checks, he should take them.

Don't worry, I don't really think you are a racist, but I think a lot of this hub-bub wouldn't be in the news if he was a white man.

Mort
06-12-2010, 11:37 AM
So? I've been unemployed and had massive savings in the past. And if he is entitled to unemployment checks, he should take them.

Don't worry, I don't really think you are a racist, but I think a lot of this hub-bub wouldn't be in the news if he was a white man.

If a white guy won the office out of nowhere and was doing interviews in an awkward way like this he would be in the news.

Aratus
06-12-2010, 11:47 AM
the SCDP has a hatchet~jobbie site deminteddeputies(dot)com that slams nikki haley + rand paul along with joe wilson and mr. mcMaster

i am sorta wondering if the SCDP with a lil DNC help ran a classic "run silent, run deep" campaign to sorta get around the auld 60something judge...

AmericaFyeah92
06-12-2010, 11:58 AM
greene 2012!!!!!

sratiug
06-12-2010, 01:05 PM
Ambush interviews? Questions like "How did you campaign?" and "Do you have a campaign staff?" and "Where did you get the 10,000 dollars?" are ambush questions?

I am shocked by what I'm seeing in this thread. I'm thinking we have a lot of posters here that are hovering around the same intelligence level as Mr. Greene himself.

Those questions are totally irrelevent ambush questions. The campaign for the nomination is over. If they wanted to cover his campaign for the nomination they are a day late and a dollar short.

You are stupid.

michaelwise
06-12-2010, 03:58 PM
I am going to join the Alvin Greene Campaign and help him win against the incumbent establishment candidate.

AuH20
06-12-2010, 04:01 PM
I am going to join the Alvin Greene Campaign and help him win against the incumbent establishment candidate.

Does Greene support a comprehensive audit of the Federal Reserve like his opponent?

teamrican1
06-12-2010, 04:34 PM
Uhuh, sure.

I noticed you avoided my first question. Why do you assume he wouldn't have the money to file for office?

You don't find it strange that someone who is unemployed would put down $10,000 on a Senate campaign he has virtually zero chance of winning? It's even more suspicious when you factor in that he seems to have run no campaign at all. He just dropped $10,000 on a filing fee then forgot about the whole thing. He's either mentally retarded or he's the willing pawn of a DeMint backer who wanted to put a black name on the Democratic ballot.

specsaregood
06-12-2010, 05:03 PM
You don't find it strange that someone who is unemployed would put down $10,000 on a Senate campaign he has virtually zero chance of winning? It's even more suspicious when you factor in that he seems to have run no campaign at all. He just dropped $10,000 on a filing fee then forgot about the whole thing. He's either mentally retarded or he's the willing pawn of a DeMint backer who wanted to put a black name on the Democratic ballot.

Where is your proof that he ran no campaign at all? Perhaps he spent his time in the areas of SC that don't get much media coverage? In all the interviews I saw, he said he went all across the state. Perhaps he focused on the 'hood? Perhaps the establishment is embarressed because they ignored his campaign, trying to use the "ignore them so they lose" tactic when all the while he was working his ass off for it going door to door?

No, I don't find it strange that somebody living at home with their parents, has 10k in savings. Do you know his finances? Maybe he saved up while in the military, or had a nice lawsuit win or came into an inheritence, maybe he has sold drugs. There are thousands of ways to have 10k to throw around than are more likely than some republican conspiracy.

RileyE104
06-12-2010, 05:49 PM
Where is your proof that he ran no campaign at all? Perhaps he spent his time in the areas of SC that don't get much media coverage? In all the interviews I saw, he said he went all across the state. Perhaps he focused on the 'hood? Perhaps the establishment is embarressed because they ignored his campaign, trying to use the "ignore them so they lose" tactic when all the while he was working his ass off for it going door to door?

No, I don't find it strange that somebody living at home with their parents, has 10k in savings. Do you know his finances? Maybe he saved up while in the military, or had a nice lawsuit win or came into an inheritence, maybe he has sold drugs. There are thousands of ways to have 10k to throw around than are more likely than some republican conspiracy.


This... Not being racist, but I think it's possible for a poor person (doesn't have to be black) to 1) get his family and friends to vote for him 2) get his family and friends to get their friends to vote for him, and so on.. 3) get others in the same situation as him to vote for him along with THEIR family and friends and so on...


In many of Greene's interviews he states how he can relate with poor people, etc. So what's so hard to believe that he spread the word to 100,000 people? Or LESS.. I mean sure, some of the voters might have just voted for him because 1) he has a famous name, 2) he was first on the ballot, or 3) they just didn't like his opponent.. But ALL 100,000 of them? No way.

Also, race COULD be a factor..

But his whole win could have been affected by the snowball-effect I described above..


People complaining about this guy should be complaining to the VOTERS who elected him to office.
After all, he's not the first idiot who's ever been elected.. :rolleyes:

BlackTerrel
06-12-2010, 05:55 PM
This... Not being racist, but I think it's possible for a poor person (doesn't have to be black) to 1) get his family and friends to vote for him 2) get his family and friends to get their friends to vote for him, and so on.. 3) get others in the same situation as him to vote for him along with THEIR family and friends and so on...


In many of Greene's interviews he states how he can relate with poor people, etc. So what's so hard to believe that he spread the word to 100,000 people? Or LESS.. I mean sure, some of the voters might have just voted for him because 1) he has a famous name, 2) he was first on the ballot, or 3) they just didn't like his opponent.. But ALL 100,000 of them? No way.

Also, race COULD be a factor..

But his whole win could have been affected by the snowball-effect I described above..


People complaining about this guy should be complaining to the VOTERS who elected him to office.
After all, he's not the first idiot who's ever been elected.. :rolleyes:

It's far from inconceivable. All he had to do was get himself and his friends and his family to each speak outside a couple Churches every Sunday. I think you'd get a lot more than 100,000 people hearing your message.

Why has the media not been able to find 1 out of the 100,000 that voted for him? I'd like to hear from them.

specsaregood
06-12-2010, 07:57 PM
It's far from inconceivable. All he had to do was get himself and his friends and his family to each speak outside a couple Churches every Sunday. I think you'd get a lot more than 100,000 people hearing your message.

Exactly, it is quite possible for such a campaign to have taken place AND for the media to have completely missed it, especially the national media.



Why has the media not been able to find 1 out of the 100,000 that voted for him? I'd like to hear from them.
Maybe they dont' want to? The conspiracy theory is certainly more entertaining to their viewers and I can imagine why they might not want to give others the idea they can run an off-air campaign and win.

Personally I think they are upset because they didn't get any lucrative campaign ad money from him.

Justinjj1
06-12-2010, 08:50 PM
I would like to see this guy win just to spite the so-called "conservative" warmonger Jim Demint.

Aratus
06-13-2010, 01:14 PM
mr. axelrod seems oblivious to any degree of a white house connection vis a vis the internet or
something more conventional and traditional... and this may not be a repeat of 1990 or 2000!!!

AdamT
06-13-2010, 02:03 PM
I just watched Olbermann "interview" a Senate candidate from the movie Idiocracy.

samforpaul
06-13-2010, 02:32 PM
Did anyone else notice a different voice at the 4:58 mark?

RonPaulwillWin
06-13-2010, 03:24 PM
I just watched Olbermann "interview" a Senate candidate from the movie Idiocracy.

President Camacho: Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
South Carolina Representative # 1: That's what you said last time, dipshit!
South Carolina Representative # 2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!

Athan
06-13-2010, 04:43 PM
Mace Windu he is not, thanks.

devil21
06-13-2010, 04:45 PM
Did anyone else notice a different voice at the 4:58 mark?

His attorney was present during his interviews. That's probably his voice you hear.

angelatc
06-13-2010, 05:14 PM
It's far from inconceivable. All he had to do was get himself and his friends and his family to each speak outside a couple Churches every Sunday. I think you'd get a lot more than 100,000 people hearing your message.

Why has the media not been able to find 1 out of the 100,000 that voted for him? I'd like to hear from them.

Here's 1.


But the Free Times also explores the role that race played:
(http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/11/who-is-alvin-greene-south-carolina-paper-fills-in-some-blanks/)
Blacks spell Greene with an "e" on the end, and the average voter in a South Carolina Democratic primary is a black woman. Also, Greene's name appeared above Rawl's on the ballot and the name Rawl sounds like white Charleston aristocracy. Most voters didn't know who Greene or Rawl was and Rawl didn't campaign enough to earn high name recognition even though he certainly campaigned very hard throughout the state. A massively uninformed electorate chose the name Greene over Rawl and it's just that simple...

Kevin Gray, a prominent black activist and author in South Carolina, says he voted for Greene. "When I was in the voting booth I looked at both those names," he says. "I'd seen Vic Rawl on Facebook before, but Alvin Greene, that name looked black."