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Anti Federalist
06-11-2010, 11:32 AM
This was from Monday, hope this wasn't posted already, I'm just getting back up to speed.

"The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen!"

— By Josh Harkinson
| Mon Jun. 7, 2010 3:00 AM PDT

http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/06/rigs-fire-i-told-you-was-gonna-happen

A prominent Houston attorney with a long record of winning settlements from oil companies says he has new evidence suggesting that the Deepwater Horizon's top managers knew of problems with the rig before it exploded last month, causing the worst oil spill in US history. Tony Buzbee, a lawyer representing 15 rig workers and dozens of shrimpers, seafood restaurants, and dock workers, says he has obtained a three-page signed statement from a crew member on the boat that rescued the burning rig's workers.

The sailor, who Buzbee refuses to name for fear of costing him his job, was on the ship's bridge when Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell, a top employee of rig owner Transocean, was speaking with someone in Houston via satellite phone. Buzbee told Mother Jones that, according to this witness account, Harrell was screaming, "Are you fucking happy? Are you fucking happy? The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen."

Whoever was on the other end of the line was apparently trying to calm Harrell down. "I am fucking calm," he went on, according to Buzbee. "You realize the rig is burning?"

At that point, the boat's captain asked Harrell to leave the bridge. It wasn't clear whether Harrell had been talking to Transocean, BP, or someone else.

On Friday a spokesman for Transocean said he couldn't confirm or deny whether the conversation took place. He was unable to make Harrell available for an interview.

During hearings held late last month by the Coast Guard and the Minerals Management Service, Harrell denied any conflicts with his BP or Transocean bosses. He said that he did not feel pressured to rush the completion of the well, even though the rig had fallen behind schedule.

Yet Buzbee's claims add weight to other statements that contradict Harrell's version of events. Testifying before the Coast Guard and MMS panel last month, Douglas Brown, the chief mechanic on the Deepwater Horizon, said that on the morning of the day that the rig exploded Harrell had a "skirmish" over drilling procedures during a meeting with BP's "company man," well site leader Robert Kaluza. "I remember the company man saying this is how it's going to be," Brown told the panel. As Harrell was leaving the meeting, according to Brown, "He pretty much grumbled, 'I guess that's what we have those pincers for,'" referring to the blowout preventer on the sea floor that is supposed to be the last resort to prevent a leak in the event of an emergency. The blowout preventer failed following the explosion on the rig, causing the massive spill. (Transocean's chief electronics technician, Mike Williams, also recalled the argument but named a different BP "company man," BP's top official on the rig, Donald Vidrine).

In a statement to the Wall Street Journal, Transocean appeared to back the claims that Harrell had feuded with BP: "The testimony certainly seems to suggest that [Harrell] disagreed with the operator's instructions, but what those were and why he disagreed are matters that will ultimately be determined during the course of investigations."

Other rig workers have also claimed that they were pressured by BP and their supervisors to cut corners. Transocean roustabout Truitt Crawford told the Coast Guard that he overheard senior management saying that BP was "taking shortcuts" by replacing drilling mud in the well with saltwater, which would have provided less weight to contain the well's surging pressure. Transocean's Williams told 60 Minutes that a supervisor had dismissed evidence that the well's blowout preventer had been damaged. And workers with Halliburton, the well's cementing contractor, had complained that BP's use of cement "was against our best practices" and told the oil company that it would likely have "a SEVERE gas flow problem" unless the well's casings were centered more carefully.

Buzbee told Mother Jones that the sailor's version of Harrell's phone conversation following the explosion was corroborated by a statement from a second crew member who says he also overheard the call. Both statements were taken in-person by Buzbee's investigator and safety consultant, who has interviewed some 60 people involved in the disaster, and signed by the witnesses, he said. Buzbee declined to make the full statements available to Mother Jones because, he said, "it is work product, meaning that it is something that I do not have to produce or disclose in litigation but that can be used at the right time in the litigation." He added that he intends to take a deposition from the crew members at a later time.

Buzbee's case against the operators of the Deepwater Horizon is hardly his first foray into suing major oil companies. After a BP refinery in Texas City exploded in 2005, killing 15 workers and injuring dozens more, he won $100 million in punitive damages from the company. In the wake of the 2002 shipwreck of the Prestige oil tanker, which devastated the coast of Galicia, he won a $70 million settlement from Spain's government on behalf of the country's Basque region. And he's also nabbed $15 million from Transocean and $6.2 million from Halliburton for injured offshore oil workers.

Yet Buzbee is convinced that the Gulf oil spill lawsuit will be his biggest ever. "It's the grandaddy of all cases," he said. "This is going to define BP and whether BP survives. This is going to be the biggest case in the history of the United States, no doubt about it."

Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated that Buzbee won a $70 million settlement from the American Bureau of Shipping for its role in the Prestige oil spill off the coast of Spain. The settlement came from Spain's government.

Cowlesy
06-11-2010, 11:44 AM
BP is freaking history.

Anti Federalist
06-11-2010, 11:46 AM
BP is freaking history.

Their US operation sure is.

Dead men walking...

ETA - Although I'm not convinced that exchange actually happened. You know my situation Cowlesy. I'm thinking there was no time at all to make a call like that.

susano
06-11-2010, 12:02 PM
I'm glad you posted this. Every bit of information that has come out backs up the story of the guy on 60 Minutes. It's been very consistant.

Mother Jones has done a good job of covering this. I am very disappointed that comprehensive coverage seems to be mainly coming from the left. They'll use this try and pass cap & trade (which is tax scam and does nothing to protect wildlife or the environment), and they may succeed because of the outrage over this disaster. The left grass roots do actually care about the environment, but they're too stupid to know the environmental movement was long ago coopted by the very entities who are destroying the environment. BP wrote most of the C&T legislation.

I'm really fed up with the Republicans and their support of global corporations over Nature our right to a clean environment. On this issue, it seems there is no political entity worthy of my support. We've got global warming/global government fraudsters on the left, and global governance by corporatocrcy "business" supportes on the right. All are corporate whores and enemies of life, truth and freedom.

susano
06-11-2010, 12:05 PM
Their US operation sure is.

Dead men walking...

ETA - Although I'm not convinced that exchange actually happened. You know my situation Cowlesy. I'm thinking there was no time at all to make a call like that.

There was plenty of time. The rig burned for two days before it sunk.

moostraks
06-11-2010, 12:05 PM
Their US operation sure is.

Dead men walking...

ETA - Although I'm not convinced that exchange actually happened. You know my situation Cowlesy. I'm thinking there was no time at all to make a call like that.

Really? I found it completely plausible esp. since it was supported by other individuals.

I once had a gas line break and catch fire and my numb brain called dh to call the fire department as I was evacuating the kiddos from the house. He was floored to say the least but I hate phones and double that with strangers so it was in character for me.:p So I guess I understand the go to the phone response from that standpoint.

dannno
06-11-2010, 12:15 PM
AF, this will help you get caught up.. Alex Jones during the broadcast was thanking Lindsey Williams for bringing him up to speed on all this, the interview made AJ feel like he's been in the dark this whole time.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=249301

Brian4Liberty
06-11-2010, 12:27 PM
People will be lying like crazy to cover their asses and save their jobs. The higher up the ranks you go, the more and bigger the lies.

Anti Federalist
06-11-2010, 04:59 PM
AF, this will help you get caught up.. Alex Jones during the broadcast was thanking Lindsey Williams for bringing him up to speed on all this, the interview made AJ feel like he's been in the dark this whole time.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=249301

Thanks danno, listening now.

Anti Federalist
06-11-2010, 05:06 PM
There was plenty of time. The rig burned for two days before it sunk.

Yes, it burned for not quite two days.

Empty, adrift, for all intents and purposes, and completely ablaze.

There was nobody making phone calls from that rig in those two days.

Maybe a few calls got shot off, but it would have to be within minutes of the initial blast, and bitching out BP Houston would have been the last call on my list.

But that will be a matter of record, CapRock will have records of the last calls made from the Horizon, so we'll see, won't we?

specsaregood
07-24-2011, 07:10 PM
BP is freaking history.

Their US operation sure is.
Dead men walking...


So how did those predictions pan out?

Brian4Liberty
07-24-2011, 07:15 PM
So how did those predictions pan out?

BP paid big time. Just like Goldman Sachs did for almost destroying the global economy and bankrupting the US government. ;)

Anti Federalist
07-24-2011, 07:19 PM
So how did those predictions pan out?

They still aren't drilling and have taken a huge loss, but they, so far, have managed to pull through.

specsaregood
07-24-2011, 07:45 PM
They still aren't drilling and have taken a huge loss, but they, so far, have managed to pull through.

How about that Lindsey Williams character, wasn't he saying this was some type of super gusher that they would never be able to plug and that it was gonna destroy the world or something?

Anti Federalist
07-24-2011, 08:02 PM
How about that Lindsey Williams character, wasn't he saying this was some type of super gusher that they would never be able to plug and that it was gonna destroy the world or something?

Lots of people were running with that one, I spent more than few hours here trying to slap that one down.

That it would get into the Gulf Stream and befoul the entire east coast.

specsaregood
07-24-2011, 08:09 PM
Lots of people were running with that one, I spent more than few hours here trying to slap that one down.
That it would get into the Gulf Stream and befoul the entire east coast.

Maybe AJ should have had you on his show instead of the fear-monger then.

brushfire
07-24-2011, 08:14 PM
BP is freaking history.

Freaking, or making?

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110718-701860.html

BP is a very special interest - and not just in the US.

Anti Federalist
07-24-2011, 08:21 PM
Maybe AJ should have had you on his show instead of the fear-monger then.

I enjoy the hell out of AJ's show and his work in general.

I turn it off when Williams is on.

Being in the business, I honestly thought that BP was toast, however. They are still hemorrhaging even as we speak.

I was right about seat belts laws and GPS back in the early 90s though.

I distinctly recall online arguments (in fact I still have them archived somewhere or another) where people were, for all intents and purposes, calling me insane for thinking that there would come a time when police would be setting up roadblocks just to check for and ticket non seat belt use. :rolleyes:

Nate-ForLiberty
07-24-2011, 09:04 PM
I enjoy the hell out of AJ's show and his work in general.

I turn it off when Williams is on.

Being in the business, I honestly thought that BP was toast, however. They are still hemorrhaging even as we speak.

I was right about seat belts laws and GPS back in the early 90s though.

I distinctly recall online arguments (in fact I still have them archived somewhere or another) where people were, for all intents and purposes, calling me insane for thinking that there would come a time when police would be setting up roadblocks just to check for and ticket non seat belt use. :rolleyes:

Why does he have Williams on so much? Never understood that.

specsaregood
07-24-2011, 09:06 PM
Why does he have Williams on so much? Never understood that.

Because he has to maintain some level of uncredibility, lest he draw too much mainstream audience and a revolution breaks out. :)

libertybrewcity
07-24-2011, 09:14 PM
Interesting...these things usually never make the news further than this though..

sparebulb
07-24-2011, 09:27 PM
How about that Lindsey Williams character, wasn't he saying this was some type of super gusher that they would never be able to plug and that it was gonna destroy the world or something?

"I beg of you...." Go easy on Lindsey Williams. If nothing else, if you follow his advice, you will be out of debt and have all of your money out of paper and into pm's. There are a lot of guru's out there that provide much worse advice than that.

Anti Federalist
07-24-2011, 09:49 PM
"I beg of you...." Go easy on Lindsey Williams. If nothing else, if you follow his advice, you will be out of debt and have all of your money out of paper and into pm's. There are a lot of guru's out there that provide much worse advice than that.

LoL - can't argue with that I suppose.

Brian4Liberty
07-25-2011, 10:54 AM
Are there any lawsuits going on by any of the families of workers who were killed?

Anti Federalist
01-11-2018, 04:45 AM
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