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Epic
06-10-2010, 05:46 PM
http://storyballoon.org/oliver-stone-hugo-chavez-is-not-a-dictator-jesse-ventura-his-chavez-film-should-be-mandatory-for-high-school-students/ [VIDEO]

Look, the guy is principled and doesn't kowtow to the media, just like Ron Paul. That's why we like the guy personally.

HOWEVER, whenever it comes to the fundamental questions of individual liberty vs. collectivism, he is on the "far left"/big-government side.

He isn't a friend to liberty, he's just a friend to a proper political discourse.

Information on totalitarian Hugo Chavez:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703389004575033490107374932.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123482581445795001.html

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gsRmeKXctx0Is-gCIXJdxeqiGFkwD9G8LK1O0 (electricity rationing! Economy just shrunk 6% in the first quarter)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125851006163953115.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126316619465423909.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704025304575284992346522582.html

BlackTerrel
06-10-2010, 05:59 PM
I was going to suggest The Hangover as mandatory for high schoolers.

0zzy
06-10-2010, 05:59 PM
never was a big fan of Jesse.

rawful
06-10-2010, 07:04 PM
I don't like anything about him. He was on Larry King last night defending Obama again and repeating his "I'm right because I served in Vietnam" crap.

Lovecraftian4Paul
06-10-2010, 07:06 PM
Ventura will live to regret his support for Obama. He never should have stepped out of the mindset of a true independent. He still too caught up on hate for the GOP, probably due to being out of touch from spending half of each year in Mexico.

jmdrake
06-10-2010, 07:22 PM
Ventura will live to regret his support for Obama. He never should have stepped out of the mindset of a true independent. He still too caught up on hate for the GOP, probably due to being out of touch from spending half of each year in Mexico.

Ventura supports Obama? I've never seen any evidence of that. Quite the opposite.

YouTube - Jesse Ventura talks about Obama's Nobel Peace Prize and the Wars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGZsr_8yaDY)

As for Hugo Chavez, people here can hate him all they want. But he's the main reason we don't have the Amero.

YouTube - Vicente Fox hints about a North American Union (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYGrn0hZlCQ)

catdd
06-10-2010, 08:46 PM
All I ever really liked about him is his willingness to say exactly what he thinks.

Depressed Liberator
06-10-2010, 08:50 PM
I respect him more than I do Beck.

silus
06-10-2010, 10:31 PM
http://storyballoon.org/oliver-stone-hugo-chavez-is-not-a-dictator-jesse-ventura-his-chavez-film-should-be-mandatory-for-high-school-students/ [VIDEO]

Look, the guy is principled and doesn't kowtow to the media, just like Ron Paul. That's why we like the guy personally.

HOWEVER, whenever it comes to the fundamental questions of individual liberty vs. collectivism, he is on the "far left"/big-government side.

He isn't a friend to liberty, he's just a friend to a proper political discourse.

Information on totalitarian Hugo Chavez:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703389004575033490107374932.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123482581445795001.html

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gsRmeKXctx0Is-gCIXJdxeqiGFkwD9G8LK1O0 (electricity rationing! Economy just shrunk 6% in the first quarter)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125851006163953115.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126316619465423909.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704025304575284992346522582.html
Funny how you just dismiss the recommendation outright just because of the person it involves. Have you seen it? Do you have anything to say about it? If not stfu and stop pretending you are in any position to criticize.

Vessol
06-11-2010, 12:11 AM
Ventura is a mixed bag IMO, some good some bad. Better then many other pundits.

Ninja Homer
06-11-2010, 12:24 AM
Sounds like an interesting film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_of_the_Border_%282009_film%29

I may watch it in the next few days. If I agree/disagree with Ventura I'll let you know.

err... wait, it doesn't sound like it's out in the US yet, I guess it may be a little longer than a few days. :)

Warrior_of_Freedom
06-11-2010, 02:43 AM
It's not that he likes Obama, he just shows respect. If he just goes on T.V and goes "OBAMA IS BAD RARARARARA" the racist accusations will start pouring in.

angelatc
06-11-2010, 05:50 AM
STONE: It is kind of two against one here, so Oliver will be allowed to defend his opinion. But Jesse, we go to your thoughts here.

VENTURA: Well, first of all –

STONE: Do you know Chavez?

VENTURA: Representative, it’s governor, thank you.

KING: Do you know -

MACK: You’re welcome.

VENTURA: There you go. I prefer my title, just as you do yours.

Jerk. Representative? Does he have Mack mixed up with Stone?

nbruno322
06-11-2010, 07:04 AM
It disappoints me to see people, especially in Latin America, falsely diagnose US economic sponsored policies in their regions (IMF, World Bank, Central Banking, Crony Capitalism) as what capitalism really is. This leads them to foolishly embrace leftist/communist ideas in resistance to so called "capitalism". In some ways Ventura suffers from this as he is completely clueless on economics, someone really needs to educate him on Austrian economics.

I detest big govt policies anywhere and Latin America and Chavez are no exception. Though, while their domestic economic policies are not ideal, it is interesting to note that most of the Chavez allied countries are not part of the US, IMF, World Bank axis (i.e. NWO) and pursue independent foreign policies. As John Perkins notes in his books, Latin American, like the Middle East, has seen its share of CIA sponsored coups, assassinations, and puppet govts which continues to this day.

On another note, the Mises Institute recently opened an institute in Brazil, with Lew Rockwell:

http://blog.mises.org/12498/misesians-in-brazil/
http://mises.org.br/

Though not a full blown member of the Chavez alliance, Brazil does pursue independent policies (like the recent vote against Iranian sanctions) and cannot be properly called a US puppet state (like Colombia).

tjeffersonsghost
06-11-2010, 08:28 AM
Though, while their domestic economic policies are not ideal, it is interesting to note that most of the Chavez allied countries are not part of the US, IMF, World Bank axis (i.e. NWO) and pursue independent foreign policies. As John Perkins notes in his books, Latin American, like the Middle East, has seen its share of CIA sponsored coups, assassinations, and puppet govts which continues to this day.



Correct. Say what you want about Chavez but he in his own way is trying to get off and stay off the shit that we talk about on this board daily (world gvt, IMF, world bank, foreign empires, etc)

Epic
06-11-2010, 08:47 AM
err... wait, it doesn't sound like it's out in the US yet, I guess it may be a little longer than a few days. :)

But even if you liked it, you shouldn't take the step of making it mandatory government indoctrination. That's a bad precedent. And that's what Ventura was recommending.

TonySutton
06-11-2010, 09:22 AM
I understand where Jesse is coming from, he is trying to open eyes to the bias of the MSM. Rather than say it should be mandatory he should partner with Stone and work with school boards to get it seen on a voluntary basis.

As far as the movie itself, knowledge is power. The more you know about the philosophy of those who oppose you, the better prepared you are to explain your philosophy.

Slutter McGee
06-11-2010, 10:28 AM
Funny how you just dismiss the recommendation outright just because of the person it involves. Have you seen it? Do you have anything to say about it? If not stfu and stop pretending you are in any position to criticize.


And Beck is different how? Oh yeah....he actually promotes libertarian ideas.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

muzzled dogg
06-11-2010, 10:30 AM
are you mad that he thinks it should be mandatory or are you mad at the content of the film?

silentshout
06-11-2010, 11:31 AM
I'd rather listen to him than the pundits on Fox or M$nbc.

00_Pete
07-12-2010, 02:59 PM
The big dumb whore was in the clouds sitting next to a super-star. Thats what the big dumb whore wants, to be a super-star.

Brain-damaged, pseudo-intellectual, celebrity-status hungry, attention whore just wants to be a star. Tea-Party bashing gets me interviews? Lets do it. Palin-bashing gets me interviews? Lets do it. This interviewer/tv talk show wants me to be libertarian? Lets do it. This interviewer/tv talk show wants me to be liberal? Lets do it. This interviewer/tv talk show wants be to lean towards Obama? Lets do it. This interviewer/tv talk show wants me to lean towards the anti-Obama? Lets do it. LOL...what a big dumb whore.

And why is he always whining about the media? He is all over the place!! The GENIAL Antony C. Sutton couldnt get ONE interview in mainstream media and this big dumb whore is all over the place!! But thats what they want isnt it Jessie? Jessie is a statement, its says: "This big dumb annoying pseudo-intellectual whore is the face of conspiracy theorists not the GENIAL Antony C. Sutton". Grade-a shill...the question is, a shill because of how dumb and whorish he is or a shill because he is bought/blackmailed?

And the irony of him (JFK conspiracy theorist) being next to Commie-boy Stone kissing his ass...the shill that made that "JFK" piece of crap. A movie that completly left out the parts about how JFK became extremely suspicious of the entire US government after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, about how he suddently started to distance himself from many of the suspected commies that he and his brother nominated to be their advisers, JFK´s incredible "International Communism and Secret Societies" speech and the EXTRAORDINARY executive order of taking away from the Federal Reserve the power to print money. Is it a coincidence that patsy/killer (or whatever) Oswald was a commie? I think not...

Edward Griffin: "Why do the foundations support communist causes in the United States?"
Norman Dodd: "Because to them communism is the means of developing what we call a monopoly, that is the organization of large-scale industry into one administrable unit."
Edward Griffin: "Do they think that they would be the..."
Norman Dodd: "They will be the beneficiaries yes!"

Big dumb whore, Jesse Ventura, cant tell his arse from his elbow. They are taking him for a ride on a leach...

awake
07-12-2010, 03:31 PM
Too much Navy Seal left...

Vessol
07-12-2010, 03:36 PM
Was he even a NAVY Seal? He was an explosives diver if I recall, and that branch of the Navy wasn't considered part of the SEALS until after he retired.

00_Pete
07-12-2010, 03:57 PM
He was caught lying over and over about his military record, he wasnt SEAL and never entered combat. That is another thing annoying about him, his constant lying and his constant militarist macho crap, 19 out of 20 interviews he always goes for the retarded macho-man crap.

And the media lets him perpetuate the "i was SEAL" BS for some reason.

In Vietnam, if a US UDT soldier required transfer to the SEALs in the morning he would be there in the afternoon, macho-man Ventura wouldnt even dare because most SEALs got home in body bags.