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Volitzer
06-07-2010, 04:51 PM
Alex Jones: Bilderberg Is Running Scared

http://www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jones-bilderberg-is-running-scared.html

Alex Jones & Aaron Dykes
Infowars.com
June 6, 2010

Alex Jones breaks down the significant developments that have emerged from sources inside the 2010 Bilderberg meeting in Spain. There is a contentious and urgent atmosphere behind the scenes of the secret meeting. Attendees are reportedly concerned about the potential collapse of the Euro, war with Iran and the rise of political dissent against world government.

Most urgent inside Bilderberg 2010 is the instability surrounding the Euro, which is threatening to unravel, and take the momentum for further regional integration and global currency with it. More gravely, veteran Jim Tucker has told the Alex Jones Show that many attendees inside Bilderberg were very supportive of initiating the long-boiling war with Iran. According to inside sources, even a nuclear strike was not off the table.

Further, it was disclosed that many members declined to attend this year because public awareness has reached a significant enough level that political pressure has been put on figures who attend, perhaps for the first time ever. Many officials were ’scared’ of potential scrutiny.

The overall panicked atmosphere over economic issues during the previous year– most dramatically demonstrated by IMF riots in Greece– has signaled a loss of control, while public anger has spread globally. This year, Bilderberg is also concerned about significant protests outside its own meeting, as well as increasing media coverage of Bilderberg. Mainstream media outlets have begun taking notice: the Drudge Report is linking to coverage; Charlie Skelton has initiated a second year of coverage for the London Guardian; Russia Today has done extensive coverage; speakers are demanding answers about Bilderberg inside the European Parliament.

This attitude carries over to eyewitness accounts of conversation inside the hotel. A ranking member of the conference organizers– the secretariat employees working on behalf of the powerful group– were overheard by London Guardian reporter Charlie Skelton discussing the ’scary’ presence of one Alex Jones who bullhorned the meetings in both 2006 and 2008. These people also joined in lamenting the growing number of protesters who had begun surrounding the hotels across the world during recent years of the conference.

The popular uprising and political dissent via tea parties, “Truthers” and Bilderberg critics have, if nothing else, contributed to the rising tide of voters throwing out incumbents and demonstrating furious anger at both Wall Street and Washington. Part and parcel with this is the near-total failure of the globalists’ agenda for world government at Copenhagen, failure to pass Climate Change taxation schemes and the widespread rejection of phony “global warming” rhetoric and public anger over the cooked data exposed by the Climategate scandal last fall.

This meshes with the melancholy tone of former National Security Advisor and Trilateral Commission co-founder Zbigniew Brzeziski, who recently lamented before his audience at the Council on Foreign Relations that, for the first time in history, “Mankind is now politically awakened and stirring.” He further warned that the rise of China and other powers had forever compromised any hopes for a unipolar world hegemony dictated solely by the Anglo-American elite.

YouTube - Alex Jones: Bilderberg Is Running Scared (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYsTecbO5pg)

dannno
06-07-2010, 05:00 PM
This is how we win.

If you laugh at people who mention Bilderberg or CFR, PLEASE read the article. This is how we break them down.

Congratulations to everyone who has been helping to spread the word about these secretive globalist organizations.

Volitzer
06-07-2010, 05:07 PM
Former Nato Secretary-General Admits Bilderberg Sets Global Policy

http://www.prisonplanet.com/former-nato-secretary-general-admits-bilderberg-sets-global-policy.html

Despite debunkers attempting to claim otherwise, Bilderberg illegally sets the consensus on policies that are subsequently enacted worldwide

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, June 7, 2010

Former NATO Secretary-General and Bilderberg member Willy Claes has confounded claims by debunkers that the secret organization which met in Sitges Spain over the last few days does not set policy, admitting during a Belgian radio interview that Bilderberg attendees are mandated to implement decisions that are formulated during the annual conference of power brokers.

In a radio interview reported on by the Belgian news website www.zonnewind.be, Claes told host Koen Fillet that Bilderberg does indeed decide policy for the coming year. Claes would certainly be in a position to know, being a two-time Bilderberg attendee as well as the eighth Secretary General of NATO from 1994 until 1995.

Claes said that Bilderberg guests are normally given around 10 minutes of talk time, after which a report is compiled of their presentation.

“The participants are then obviously considered to use this report in setting their policies in the environments in which they affect,” stated Claes, according to the translated text.

The host asked Claes to repeat this astounding admission, before Claes went on to explain that no two guest are allowed to sit next to each other more than once at Bilderberg, to enable the maximum exchange of views on important subjects.

A Dutch-speaking reader sent us the article and confirms that the translation is accurate. This represents a solid confirmation of what we already knew through witnessing Bilderberg’s leaked agenda later play out in the real world time after time – that the elitist organization does verbally set global policy in a completely undemocratic and illegal manner.

However, despite Claes, who personally attended the 1994 Bilderberg meeting in Helsinki when he was Belgium’s Minister for Foreign Affairs, confirming the obvious that Bilderberg does manufacture a consensus amongst its participants, which is then implemented as policy in the real world, during the past few days numerous debunkers have claimed that Bilderberg is just a talking shop that has no impact on the global stage.

Iain Hollingshead of the London Telegraph wrote a sophomoric piece in which he dismissed Bilderberg as “a group of willy-waggling old men comparing their security details and dreaming of past glories,” which is a complete misnomer seeing as Bilderberg is routinely attended by active Presidents and Prime Ministers very much in power and very much in a position to have an impact on current events, such as Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who attended this year’s conference with his country on the verge of becoming the next Greece.

Hollingshead claims that because the group is becoming more well known, its allure is on the wane, but fails to mention that this is because of the fine work of activists and real journalists who have spent decades trying to get the castrated corporate media to report on the event while people like Hollingshead either made childish jokes about the whole issue or even denied the very existence of Bilderberg.

One such “skeptic” is Chip Berlet, who works for a group called the Political Research Associates, which is funded in part by the Ford Foundation, founded by Edsel Ford, the son of the notorious Henry Ford, who received awards from Hitler for funding the Nazi war machine with slave labor, which somewhat taints the PRA’s stated objectives, which are apparently to track conspiracy theories and the the right-wing while “advancing an open, democratic, and pluralistic society”.

The Ford Foundation is little more than an attack dog which transnational elitists use, through its offshoots like PRA, to demonize any criticism of their agenda as extremist and anti-semitic, which is quite rich considering the history of the corporation.

Berlet himself has made a career out of characterizing the idea that powerful people might get together and discuss ways of expanding their power as a belief of the lunatic fringe.

Little surprise therefore that towards the end of Berlet’s appearance on Russia Today, in which he stumbles through a broken record of excuses claiming Bilderberg has no power, he invokes the tired old cliche that anyone who expresses concern about 200 powerful men gathering in secret with no democratic oversight whatsoever behind a wall of security is probably a closet racist.

Berlet claims the American Free Press was founded by “one of the biggest anti-semitic, neo-fascist conspiracy theorists in the world,” which coincidentally is also a pretty apt description of the man who founded the company that now pays Berlet via the Ford Foundation funding PRA receives to spew his propaganda – Henry Ford – one of Hitler’s biggest supporters.

Berlet demonizes the notion that the Bilderberg Group has any influence over world affairs or is working towards a new world order as “a lot of malarkey,” and “a hoax carried out by people who believe in an elaborate fairy tale about how power is exercised in the world”.

He then completely contradicts himself by admitting “they talk over policy” but then claims “the organization itself has no power” before stating, “The policies that are formulated don’t hold any power within the nation that people who go to the meeting….they go back to their country and say hey I heard this at the Bilderberger meeting what do you think? And the national assembly or the powerful people say I think that’s a lot of malarkey take it back and shove it someplace, so this idea that this is a plot that is carried out to 30 or 40 countries and implemented is baloney.”

Really? So according to Berlet, the Prime Minister of Spain, his Secretary General, and the Queen of Spain, all of whom attended the Bilderberg meeting this past weekend, go back home and are then told to “shove” whatever they discussed at Bilderberg by “the powerful people”. These are the powerful people! These are the people who run the country. Presumably, Berlet believes there are powerful people above the Prime Minister and the Queen of Spain who tell them what to do, which sounds like an even bigger conspiracy theory than the one he is attempting to debunk.

Of course in reality, Berlet knows that the most powerful people in the world attend Bilderberg and he is either completely ignorant or deliberately lying by claiming that Bilderberg has no impact on policy.

Merely on the face of it the claim that Bilderberg does not have an influence on policy is patently ridiculous. This would be akin to claiming that a four-day gathering of 200 MLB officials would have no impact on the future of baseball. Despite the fact that many politicians shunned Bilderberg this year because of the group’s increasing notoriety as a furtive and insidious front for anti-democratic elitists, just take a look at the list of powerful individuals who did attend.

Top CEO’s like Bill Gates of Microsoft and Eric Schmidt of Google, top bankers like Marcus Agius of Barclays and Peter Sutherland of Goldman Sachs, don’t meet with national Presidents, Prime Ministers, big newspaper owners, members of the European Parliament and officials in the U.S. government to talk about tiddlywinks. They don’t get together for four days and surround themselves with a security ring of steel to discuss the weather or American Idol – they’re at Bilderberg to come to a consensus and then to implement it in their respective spheres of influence, just as Claes confirms in the radio interview.

Using bluff and slimy semantics, apologists like Berlet imply that just because no treaties or laws are signed at Bilderberg, that the group has no power. In reality, Bilderberg sets the global consensus for the agenda that is subsequently implemented in the host countries of the Bilderberg members, a process that holds even more power than signing an individual treaty. Bilderberg sets the consensus for a whole gamut of policy areas, from oil, to the environment, to wars, to the economy.

This is confirmed not only by former NATO Secretary-General and Bilderberg member Willy Claes in the radio interview we covered earlier, but it is manifestly evident in the policies that have later come to pass after being formulated at Bilderberg.

Indeed, Bilderberg chairman Étienne Davignon last year bragged about how the Euro single currency was a brainchild of the Bilderberg Group.

“A meeting in June in Europe of the Bilderberg Group- an informal club of leading politicians, businessmen and thinkers chaired by Mr. Davignon- could also ‘improve understanding’ on future action, in the same way it helped create the Euro in the 1990s, he said,” reported the EU Observer in March 2009.

The foundations for the EU and ultimately the Euro single currency were laid by the secretive Bilderberg Group in the mid-1950’s. Bilderberg’s own leaked documents prove that the agenda to create a European common market and a single currency was formulated by Bilderberg in 1955.

As we first reported in 2003, a BBC investigative team were allowed to access Bilderberg files which confirmed that the EU and the Euro were the brainchild of Bilderberg

The summary report of the 1955 Bilderberg meeting which took place from September 23-25 1955 at the Grand Hotel Sonnenbichl in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, West Germany, talks of the “Pressing need to bring the German people, together with the other peoples of Europe, into a common market.”

The document also outlines the plan, “To arrive in the shortest possible time at the highest degree of integration, beginning with a common European market.”

Just two years later, in 1957, the first incarnation of the European Economic Community (EEC) was born, which comprised of a single market between Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. The EEC gradually enlarged over the next few decades until it became the European Community, one of the three pillars of the European Union, which was officially created in 1993.

The 1955 Bilderberg summary outlines a consensus that, “It might be better to proceed through the development of a common market by treaty rather than by the creation of new high authorities.” The EEC was duly created via the Treaty of Rome, which was signed on 25 March 1957.

Debunkers like Berlet will probably still try and claim that the idea of a common European market was floating around in the early 1950’s and that Bilderberg were merely debating contemporary political ideas.

However, the same cannot be said for the single European currency, which wasn’t even introduced in the form of notes and coins until January 2002, having been first codified in the 1992 Maastricht Treaty. The documents prove that Bilderberg members were pushing for its introduction nearly 40 years earlier.

“A European speaker expressed concern about the need to achieve a common currency, and indicated that in his view this necessarily implied the creation of a central political authority,” states the summary document.

True to form, the single European currency, the Euro, was not introduced until after the creation of a central political authority – the EU itself.

The document also stresses, “The necessity to bring the German people into a common European market as quickly as possible,” adding that the future was in danger without a “United Europe”.

These proven examples of Bilderberg formulating some of the biggest policies of the 20th century do not even come from leaks obtained by journalists from within the meetings, they come directly from the mouth of Bilderberg’s chairman and Bilderberg’s own internal documents.

However, leaks from inside the meetings uncovered by independent journalists have also proven routinely accurate in confirming that Bilderberg has a massive impact on policy decisions.

In spring 2002, when war hawks in the Bush administration were pushing for a summer invasion of Iraq, Bilderbergers expressed their desire for a delay and the attack was not launched until March the following year.

In 2006, journalists who got leaked information from inside Bilderberg predicted that the U.S. housing market would be allowed to soar before the bubble was cruelly popped, which is exactly what transpired.

In June 2008, we learned that Bilderberg were creating the conditions for a financial calamity, which is exactly what began a few months later with the collapse of Lehman Brothers.

Bilderberg has habitually flexed its muscles in establishing its role as kingmaker. The organization routinely selects presidential candidates as well as running mates and prime ministers.

Despite widespread expectation that former British Prime Minister Tony Blair would be announced as the first European Union President, the former Prime Minister of Belgium, Herman Van Rompuy, was picked for the role just days after he attended a Bilderberg Group dinner meeting.

Bill Clinton and Tony Blair were both groomed by the secretive organization in the early 1990’s before rising to prominence.

Barack Obama’s running mate Joe Biden was selected by Bilderberg luminary James A. Johnson, and John Kerry’s 2004 running mate John Edwards was also anointed by the group after he gave a glowing speech at the conference in 2004. Bilderberg attendees even broke house rules to applaud Edwards at the end of a speech he gave to the elitists about American politics. The choice of Edwards was shocking to media pundits who had fully expected Dick Gephardt to secure the position. The New York Post even reported that Gephardt had been chosen and “Kerry-Gephardt” stickers were being placed on campaign vehicles before being removed when Edwards was announced as Kerry’s number two.

A 2008 Portuguese newspaper report highlighted the fact that Pedro Santana Lopes and Jose Socrates attended the 2004 meeting in Stresa, Italy before both going on to become Prime Minster of Portugal.

Several key geopolitical decisions were made at the 2008 Bilderberg meeting in Washington DC, again emphasizing the fact that the confab is far more than an informal get-together.

As we reported at the time, Bilderberg were concerned that the price of oil was accelerating too fast after it hit $150 a barrel and wanted to ensure that “oil prices would probably begin to decline”. This is exactly what happened in the latter half of 2008 as oil again sunk below $50 a barrel. We were initially able to predict the rapid rise in oil prices in 2005 when oil was at $40, because Bilderberg had called for prices to rise during that year’s meeting in Munich. During the conference in Germany, Henry Kissinger told his fellow attendees that the elite had resolved to ensure that oil prices would double over the course of the next 12-24 months, which is exactly what happened.

Also at the 2008 meeting, former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice formalized plans to sign a treaty on installing a U.S. radar base in the Czech Republic with Czech Foreign Minister Karel Schwarzenberg.

Rice was joined at the meeting by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who reportedly encouraged EU globalists to get behind an attack on Iran. Low and behold, days later the EU threatened Iran with sanctions if it did not suspend its nuclear enrichment program. For the first time, the majority of Bilderberg members expressed their support for an attack on Iran during this year’s meeting in Sitges.

There was also widespread speculation that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama’s “secret meeting,” which was accomplished with the aid of cloak and dagger tactics like locking journalists on an airplane to keep them from tracking the two down, took place at the 2008 Bilderberg meeting in DC.

So as we can see, there are a plethora of examples of Bilderberg setting a consensus on a particular policy area which later comes to pass at both the national and international levels. To claim otherwise is to be completely ignorant of the manifestly provable fact that Bilderberg has immense power in setting agreements on policy and exercises that power on a regular basis.

In light of this, Berlet and Hollingshead are either shoddy journalists who have done no research whatsoever and are merely phoning it in, or they are being paid to deliberately spew biased and completely inaccurate information by the establishment they work for in a futile attempt to convince people that Bilderberg has no power, presumably in an effort to halt growing numbers of protesters who descend on Bilderberg each year, whom Bilderberg members now class as a “threat” to their agenda and secrecy.

Vessol
06-07-2010, 05:07 PM
Seriously, they were "scared" of Alex Jones? I love when he does the mock english accent and talks like someone is scared of him.

Agorism
06-07-2010, 05:10 PM
Who is this Bilderberg character.

Volitzer
06-07-2010, 05:14 PM
Bilderberg Wants Americans Disarmed And Dependent On Government

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-wants-americans-disarmed-and-dependent-on-government.html


Globalists celebrate Obama’s support for small arms ban that many fear could be used for mass gun grab as part of elite agenda to “Europeanize” the United States


Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, June 7, 2010

As part of Bilderberg’s agenda to “Europeanize” America and turn it into a socialist welfare state wherein its citizens are completely dependent on the government, the elite are celebrating President Obama’s support for a UN small arms treaty, which many fear could be used to impinge on the right to keep and bear arms.

According to Bilderberg sleuth Jim Tucker, elitists were celebrating one of their scant victories at the annual meeting this year, namely the fact that President Obama has promised to support a United Nations small arms treaty that could represent an end run around the second amendment.

By encapsulating the gun grab within a treaty, the Obama administration could claim that no Senate approval is needed to authorize any such move against the right to bear arms – although whether a treaty trumps the Constitution is a very murky area of debate.

Congressman Paul Broun warns that, “With willing one-world accomplices in Washington, D.C., gun-grabbers around the globe believe they have it made.” Broun characterizes the U.N.’s Small Arms Treaty as “nothing more than a massive, GLOBAL gun control scheme.”

The treaty would force national governments to acquiesce to a global gun registry, while strengthening licensing procedures so as to make it almost impossible for a citizen to legally purchase a gun. It would also ban the private sale of semi-automatic weapons and ultimately lead to the confiscation and destruction of all “unauthorized” firearms owned by citizens.

American Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton echoes Broun’s warning, explaining that the treaty appears to be aimed at the international arms trade yet in reality, “the real agenda is domestic firearms control”.

“I think it was clear from the outset that the Obama administration would move in this direction. The only thing that’s surprising is that it’s taken this long,” said Bolton.

If the elite are to implement their stuttering “post-industrial revolution” with crippling austerity measures, consumption taxes, and mass unemployment with any success, then 100 million armed Americans are going to provide somewhat of a stumbling block. Bilderberg’s desire to see the middle class eviscerated and replaced with a servile, destitute and dependent population mandates that private gun ownership in the U.S. be outlawed just as it is in most European countries.

Cynics have claimed that the treaty will only apply to terrorists or those who force children to enlist as soldiers. However, since the federal government has repeatedly made clear that it considers gun owners, libertarians, tea party activists and basically anyone who is politically active as a likely domestic terrorist under the MIAC report and others, Americans would be remiss not to be concerned about the activities of an organization that symbolizes its agenda in the form of a huge anti-gun statue which it proudly displays in the middle of New York City.

Indeed, if the UN’s anti-gun statue was supposed to represent a symbol of peace as the organization claims, why does it depict not a weapon of war but a mere handgun? This is clearly the UN giving the middle finger to the Constitution and the second amendment, and any attempt by the globalists to act on this attitude should be a massive cause for alarm.

CryLibertyOrDeath
06-07-2010, 05:16 PM
IIRC, Goldman Sachs is one of the biggest net shorters on the Euro, yet they are in the Bilderberg group. How is this reconciled?

Volitzer
06-07-2010, 05:17 PM
Who is this Bilderberg character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

dannno
06-07-2010, 05:20 PM
Who is this Bilderberg character.


The original conference was held at the Hotel de Bilderberg, near Arnhem in The Netherlands, from 29 May to 31 May 1954. It was initiated by several people, including Józef Retinger, concerned about the growth of anti-Americanism in Western Europe, who proposed an international conference at which leaders from European countries and the United States would be brought together with the aim of promoting atlanticism – better understanding between the cultures of the United States and Western Europe in order to foster cooperation on political, economic, and defense issues.[1] Retinger approached Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, who agreed to promote the idea, together with Belgian Prime Minister Paul Van Zeeland, and the head of Unilever at that time, Dutchman Paul Rijkens. Bernhard in turn contacted Walter Bedell Smith, then head of the CIA, who asked Eisenhower adviser Charles Douglas Jackson to deal with the suggestion.[2] The guest list was to be drawn up by inviting two attendees from each nation, one of each to represent conservative and liberal points of view.[1] Fifty delegates from 11 countries in Western Europe attended the first conference along with 11 Americans.[3]

The success of the meeting led the organizers to arrange an annual conference. A permanent Steering Committee was established, with Retinger appointed as permanent secretary. As well as organizing the conference, the steering committee also maintained a register of attendee names and contact details, with the aim of creating an informal network of individuals who could call upon one another in a private capacity.[citation needed] Conferences were held in France, Germany, and Denmark over the following three years. In 1957, the first US conference was held in St. Simons, Georgia, with $30,000 from the Ford Foundation. The foundation supplied further funding for the 1959 and 1963 conferences.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

Agorism
06-07-2010, 05:31 PM
Bilderburger used to play the hamburgler in the McDonalds commercials.

dannno
06-07-2010, 05:34 PM
Bilderburger used to play the hamburgler in the McDonalds commercials.

Bilderberger not Bilderburger :p

Volitzer
06-07-2010, 05:42 PM
Bilderberg participants 2010 (in alphabetic order)
(Present) Occupation
BEL Davignon, Etienne F. Honorary Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings; Vice Chairman,
Suez Tractebel

DEU Ackermann, Josef Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive
Committee, Deutsche Bank AG

USA Alexander, Keith B. Director, National Security Agency

GRC Alogoskoufis, George Member of Parliament

USA Altman, Roger C. Chairman and CEO, Evercore Partners, Inc.

GRC Arapoglou, Takis Chairman and CEO, National Bank of Greece

TUR Babacan, Ali Minister of State and Deputy Prime Minister

GRC Bakoyannis, Dora Minister of Foreign Affairs

NOR Baksaas, Jon Fredrik President and CEO, Telenor Group

PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.; Former Prime
Minister

FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP

ITA Bernabè, Franco CEO Telecom Italia SpA

SWE Bildt, Carl Minister of Foreign Affairs

SWE Björklund, Jan Minister for Education; Leader of the Lìberal Party

CHE Blocher, Christoph Former Swiss Counselor; Former Chairman and CEO, EMS Group

FRA Bompard, Alexandre CEO, Europe 1

USA Boot, Max Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow for National Security Studies, Council
on Foreign Relations

AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher and Editor, Der Standard

FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman of the Management Board and CEO, AXA

ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis CEO, Grupo PRISA

BEL Coene, Luc Vice Governor, National Bank of Belgium

USA Collins, Timothy C. Senior Managing Director and CEO, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC

GRC David, George A. Chairman, Coca-Cola Hellenic Bottling Co. (H.B.C.) S.A.

GRC Diamantopoulou, Anna Member of Parliament

ITA Draghi, Mario Governor, Banca d'Italia

USA Eberstadt, Nicholas N. Henry Wendt Scholar in Political Economy, American
Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research

DNK Eldrup, Anders President, DONG Energy A/S

ITA Elkann, John Chairman, EXOR S.p.A.; Vice Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.

DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, Airbus SAS

ESP Entrecanales, José Manuel Chairman, Acciona

AUT Faymann, Werner Federal Chancellor

USA Ferguson, Niall Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History, Harvard University

IRL Gleeson, Dermot Chairman, AIB Group

USA Graham, Donald E. Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company

NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former
Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings

NLD Hirsch Ballin, Ernst M.H. Minister of Justice

USA Holbrooke, Richard C. US Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan

NLD Hommen, Jan H.M. Chairman, ING N.V.

INT Hoop Scheffer, Jaap G. de Secretary General, NATO

USA Johnson, James A. Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC

USA Jordan, Jr., Vernon E. Senior Managing Director, Lazard Frères & Co. LLC

FIN Katainen, Jyrki Minister of Finance

USA Keane, John M. Senior Partner, SCP Partners; General, US Army, Retired

USA Kent, Muhtar President and CEO, The Coca-Cola Company

GBR Kerr, John Member, House of Lords; Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc

DEU Klaeden, Eckart von Foreign Policy Spokesman, CDU/CSU

USA Kleinfeld, Klaus President and CEO, Alcoa Inc.

TUR Koç, Mustafa V. Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.

DEU Koch, Roland Prime Minister of Hessen

TUR Kohen, Sami Senior Foreign Affairs Columnist, Milliyet

USA Kravis, Henry R. Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, Inc.

INT Kroes, Neelie Commissioner, European Commission

GRC Kyriacopoulos, Ulysses Chairman and Board member of subsidiary companies
of the S&B Group

FRA Lagarde, Christine Minister for the Economy, Industry and Employment

INT Lamy, Pascal Director General, World Trade Organization

PRT Leite, Manuela Ferreira Leader, PSD

ESP León Gross, Bernardino General Director of the Presidency of the Spanish
Government

DEU Löscher, Peter CEO, Siemens AG

GBR Mandelson, Peter Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise & Regulatory
Reform

INT Maystadt, Philippe President, European Investment Bank

CAN McKenna, Frank Former Ambassador to the US

GBR Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist

FRA Montbrial, Thierry de President, French Institute for International Relations

ITA Monti, Mario President, Universita Commerciale Luigi Bocconi

ESP Moratinos Cuyaubé, Miguel A. Minister of Foreign Affairs

USA Mundie, Craig J. Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation

CAN Munroe-Blum, Heather Principal and Vice Chancellor, McGill University

NOR Myklebust, Egil Former Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, Norsk Hydro ASA

DEU Nass, Matthias Deputy Editor, Die Zeit

NLD Beatrix, H.M. the Queen of the Netherlands

ESP Nin Génova, Juan Maria President and CEO, La Caixa

FRA Olivennes, Denis CEO and Editor in Chief, Le Nouvel Observateur

FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc

GBR Osborne, George Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer

FRA Oudéa, Frédéric CEO, Société Générale

ITA Padoa-Schioppa, Tommaso Former Minister of Finance; President of Notre Europe

GRC Papahelas, Alexis Journalist, Kathimerini

GRC Papalexopoulos, Dimitris Managing Director, Titan Cement Co. S.A.

GRC Papathanasiou, Yannis Minister of Economy and Finance

USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public
Policy Research

BEL Philippe, H.R.H. Prince

PRT Pinho, Manuel Minister of Economy and Innovation

INT Pisani-Ferry, Jean Director, Bruegel

CAN Prichard, J. Robert S. President and CEO, Metrolinx

ITA Prodi, Romano Chairman, Foundation for Worldwide Cooperation

FIN Rajalahti, Hanna Managing Editor, Talouselämä

CAN Reisman, Heather M. Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.

NOR Reiten, Eivind President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA

CHE Ringier, Michael Chairman, Ringier AG

USA Rockefeller, David Former Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank

USA Rubin, Barnett R. Director of Studies and Senior Fellow, Center for
International Cooperation, New York University

TUR Sabanci Dinçer, Suzan Chairman, Akbank

CAN Samarasekera, Indira V. President and Vice-Chancellor, University of Alberta

AUT Scholten, Rudolf Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische
Kontrollbank AG

USA Sheeran, Josette Executive Director, UN World Food Programme

ITA Siniscalco, Domenico Vice Chairman, Morgan Stanley International

ESP Solbes, Pedro Vice-President of Spanish Government; Minister of Economy and
Finance

ESP Sophia, H.M. the Queen of Spain

USA Steinberg, James B. Deputy Secretary of State

INT Stigson, Bjorn President, World Business Council for Sustainable Development

GRC Stournaras, Yannis Research Director, Foundation for Economic and Industrial
Research (IOBE)

IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, BP plc and Chairman, Goldman Sachs International

INT Tanaka, Nobuo Executive Director, IEA

GBR Taylor, J. Martin Chairman, Syngenta International AG

USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Clarium Capital Management, LLC

DNK Thorning-Schmidt, Helle Leader ofThe Social Democratic Party

DNK Thune Andersen, Thomas Partner and CEO, Maersk Oil

AUT Treichl, Andreas Chairman and CEO, Erste Group Bank AG

INT Trichet, Jean-Claude President, European Central Bank

GRC Tsoukalis, Loukas President of the Hellenic Foundation for European and
Foreign Policy (ELlAMEP)

TUR Ugur, Agah CEO, Borusan Holding

FIN Vanhanen, Matti Prime Minister

CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Chairman and CEO, Novartis AG

NLD Veer, Jeroen van der Chief Executive, Royal Dutch Shell plc

USA Volcker, Paul A. Chairman, Economic Recovery Advisory Board

SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB

SWE Wallenberg, Marcus Chairman, SEB

NLD Wellink, Nout President, De Nederlandsche Bank

NLD Wijers, Hans Chairman, AkzoNobel NV

GBR Wolf, Martin H. Associate Editor & Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial
Times

USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman, Wolfensohn & Company, LLC

USA Wolfowitz, Paul Visiting Scholar, American Enterprise Institute for Public
Policy Research

INT Zoellick, Robert B. President, The World Bank Group

GBR Bredow, Vendeline von Business Correspondent, The Economist (Rapporteur)

GBR McBride, Edward Business Editor, The Economist (Rapporteur)

• AUT Austria
• BEL Belgium
• CHE Switzerland
• CAN Canada
• DEU Germany
• DNK Denmark
• ESP Spain
• FRA France
• FIN Finland
• GBR Great Britain
• GRC Greece
• IRL Ireland
• INT International
• ITA Italy
• NOR Norway
• NLD Netherlands
• PRT Portugal
• SWE Sweden
• TUR Turkey
• USA United States of America

live liberty
06-07-2010, 06:16 PM
Bilderberg participants 2010 (in alphabetic order)
(Present) Occupation
BEL Davignon, Etienne F. Honorary Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings; Vice Chairman,
Suez Tractebel

DEU Ackermann, Josef Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive
Committee, Deutsche Bank AG

USA Alexander, Keith B. Director, National Security Agency

GRC Alogoskoufis, George Member of Parliament

USA Altman, Roger C. Chairman and CEO, Evercore Partners, Inc.

GRC Arapoglou, Takis Chairman and CEO, National Bank of Greece

TUR Babacan, Ali Minister of State and Deputy Prime Minister

GRC Bakoyannis, Dora Minister of Foreign Affairs

NOR Baksaas, Jon Fredrik President and CEO, Telenor Group

PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.; Former Prime
Minister

FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP

ITA Bernabè, Franco CEO Telecom Italia SpA

SWE Bildt, Carl Minister of Foreign Affairs

SWE Björklund, Jan Minister for Education; Leader of the Lìberal Party

CHE Blocher, Christoph Former Swiss Counselor; Former Chairman and CEO, EMS Group

FRA Bompard, Alexandre CEO, Europe 1

USA Boot, Max Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow for National Security Studies, Council
on Foreign Relations

AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher and Editor, Der Standard

FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman of the Management Board and CEO, AXA

ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis CEO, Grupo PRISA

BEL Coene, Luc Vice Governor, National Bank of Belgium

USA Collins, Timothy C. Senior Managing Director and CEO, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC

GRC David, George A. Chairman, Coca-Cola Hellenic Bottling Co. (H.B.C.) S.A.

GRC Diamantopoulou, Anna Member of Parliament

ITA Draghi, Mario Governor, Banca d'Italia

USA Eberstadt, Nicholas N. Henry Wendt Scholar in Political Economy, American
Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research

DNK Eldrup, Anders President, DONG Energy A/S

ITA Elkann, John Chairman, EXOR S.p.A.; Vice Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.

DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, Airbus SAS

ESP Entrecanales, José Manuel Chairman, Acciona

AUT Faymann, Werner Federal Chancellor

USA Ferguson, Niall Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History, Harvard University

IRL Gleeson, Dermot Chairman, AIB Group

USA Graham, Donald E. Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company

NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former
Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings

NLD Hirsch Ballin, Ernst M.H. Minister of Justice

USA Holbrooke, Richard C. US Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan

NLD Hommen, Jan H.M. Chairman, ING N.V.

INT Hoop Scheffer, Jaap G. de Secretary General, NATO

USA Johnson, James A. Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC

USA Jordan, Jr., Vernon E. Senior Managing Director, Lazard Frères & Co. LLC

FIN Katainen, Jyrki Minister of Finance

USA Keane, John M. Senior Partner, SCP Partners; General, US Army, Retired

USA Kent, Muhtar President and CEO, The Coca-Cola Company

GBR Kerr, John Member, House of Lords; Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc

DEU Klaeden, Eckart von Foreign Policy Spokesman, CDU/CSU

USA Kleinfeld, Klaus President and CEO, Alcoa Inc.

TUR Koç, Mustafa V. Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.

DEU Koch, Roland Prime Minister of Hessen

TUR Kohen, Sami Senior Foreign Affairs Columnist, Milliyet

USA Kravis, Henry R. Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, Inc.

INT Kroes, Neelie Commissioner, European Commission

GRC Kyriacopoulos, Ulysses Chairman and Board member of subsidiary companies
of the S&B Group

FRA Lagarde, Christine Minister for the Economy, Industry and Employment

INT Lamy, Pascal Director General, World Trade Organization

PRT Leite, Manuela Ferreira Leader, PSD

ESP León Gross, Bernardino General Director of the Presidency of the Spanish
Government

DEU Löscher, Peter CEO, Siemens AG

GBR Mandelson, Peter Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise & Regulatory
Reform

INT Maystadt, Philippe President, European Investment Bank

CAN McKenna, Frank Former Ambassador to the US

GBR Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist

FRA Montbrial, Thierry de President, French Institute for International Relations

ITA Monti, Mario President, Universita Commerciale Luigi Bocconi

ESP Moratinos Cuyaubé, Miguel A. Minister of Foreign Affairs

USA Mundie, Craig J. Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation

CAN Munroe-Blum, Heather Principal and Vice Chancellor, McGill University

NOR Myklebust, Egil Former Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, Norsk Hydro ASA

DEU Nass, Matthias Deputy Editor, Die Zeit

NLD Beatrix, H.M. the Queen of the Netherlands

ESP Nin Génova, Juan Maria President and CEO, La Caixa

FRA Olivennes, Denis CEO and Editor in Chief, Le Nouvel Observateur

FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc

GBR Osborne, George Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer

FRA Oudéa, Frédéric CEO, Société Générale

ITA Padoa-Schioppa, Tommaso Former Minister of Finance; President of Notre Europe

GRC Papahelas, Alexis Journalist, Kathimerini

GRC Papalexopoulos, Dimitris Managing Director, Titan Cement Co. S.A.

GRC Papathanasiou, Yannis Minister of Economy and Finance

USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public
Policy Research

BEL Philippe, H.R.H. Prince

PRT Pinho, Manuel Minister of Economy and Innovation

INT Pisani-Ferry, Jean Director, Bruegel

CAN Prichard, J. Robert S. President and CEO, Metrolinx

ITA Prodi, Romano Chairman, Foundation for Worldwide Cooperation

FIN Rajalahti, Hanna Managing Editor, Talouselämä

CAN Reisman, Heather M. Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.

NOR Reiten, Eivind President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA

CHE Ringier, Michael Chairman, Ringier AG

USA Rockefeller, David Former Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank

USA Rubin, Barnett R. Director of Studies and Senior Fellow, Center for
International Cooperation, New York University

TUR Sabanci Dinçer, Suzan Chairman, Akbank

CAN Samarasekera, Indira V. President and Vice-Chancellor, University of Alberta

AUT Scholten, Rudolf Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische
Kontrollbank AG

USA Sheeran, Josette Executive Director, UN World Food Programme

ITA Siniscalco, Domenico Vice Chairman, Morgan Stanley International

ESP Solbes, Pedro Vice-President of Spanish Government; Minister of Economy and
Finance

ESP Sophia, H.M. the Queen of Spain

USA Steinberg, James B. Deputy Secretary of State

INT Stigson, Bjorn President, World Business Council for Sustainable Development

GRC Stournaras, Yannis Research Director, Foundation for Economic and Industrial
Research (IOBE)

IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, BP plc and Chairman, Goldman Sachs International

INT Tanaka, Nobuo Executive Director, IEA

GBR Taylor, J. Martin Chairman, Syngenta International AG

USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Clarium Capital Management, LLC

DNK Thorning-Schmidt, Helle Leader ofThe Social Democratic Party

DNK Thune Andersen, Thomas Partner and CEO, Maersk Oil

AUT Treichl, Andreas Chairman and CEO, Erste Group Bank AG

INT Trichet, Jean-Claude President, European Central Bank

GRC Tsoukalis, Loukas President of the Hellenic Foundation for European and
Foreign Policy (ELlAMEP)

TUR Ugur, Agah CEO, Borusan Holding

FIN Vanhanen, Matti Prime Minister

CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Chairman and CEO, Novartis AG

NLD Veer, Jeroen van der Chief Executive, Royal Dutch Shell plc

USA Volcker, Paul A. Chairman, Economic Recovery Advisory Board

SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB

SWE Wallenberg, Marcus Chairman, SEB

NLD Wellink, Nout President, De Nederlandsche Bank

NLD Wijers, Hans Chairman, AkzoNobel NV

GBR Wolf, Martin H. Associate Editor & Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial
Times

USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman, Wolfensohn & Company, LLC

USA Wolfowitz, Paul Visiting Scholar, American Enterprise Institute for Public
Policy Research

INT Zoellick, Robert B. President, The World Bank Group

GBR Bredow, Vendeline von Business Correspondent, The Economist (Rapporteur)

GBR McBride, Edward Business Editor, The Economist (Rapporteur)

• AUT Austria
• BEL Belgium
• CHE Switzerland
• CAN Canada
• DEU Germany
• DNK Denmark
• ESP Spain
• FRA France
• FIN Finland
• GBR Great Britain
• GRC Greece
• IRL Ireland
• INT International
• ITA Italy
• NOR Norway
• NLD Netherlands
• PRT Portugal
• SWE Sweden
• TUR Turkey
• USA United States of America

Take all the assets from these thieves, divide it up among the commoners, put these assholes on Social Security and call it deflation.

sofia
06-07-2010, 06:33 PM
the plan may be to deliberately detsroy the EU and then swallow everything up into a global system

Anti Federalist
06-07-2010, 06:39 PM
This is how we win.

If you laugh at people who mention Bilderberg or CFR, PLEASE read the article. This is how we break them down.

Congratulations to everyone who has been helping to spread the word about these secretive globalist organizations.

Multiple stories on Bilderberg, front page of Drudge, right now.

Who would have thought that just five years ago?

Yer right, shine the light on these cockroaches.

TruckinMike
06-07-2010, 06:40 PM
You forgot Bill Gates. The press caught him at the airport and he confessed under scrutiny that he was attending the Bilderberg meeting and not the fictitious medical conference that he earlier claimed.

Why not just come clean and say where you are going? Hhmm? Oh, yeah, its kind of hard to do that when you know that you are Mr. eugenics the global depopulation wannabe czar. (btw - its a fight between Gates and Turner for the title)

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And Vessel...


Seriously, they were "scared" of Alex Jones?

A reporter in casual conversation with some of the Bilderberg staff said that they mentioned AJ by name, and his bull horning in the past. The said that "those protesters were scary". I heard the interview. It wasn't as if they were scared, like Grizzly bear scared, it was more like a concern about what they might do.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/jun/04/bilderberg-charlie-skelton-protesters

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/jun/03/bilderberg-spain-charlie-skelton

TMike:eek:

dannno
06-07-2010, 06:41 PM
Who would have thought that just five years ago?


I would have thought, "wtf is a Bilderbergerer?"

Anti Federalist
06-07-2010, 06:44 PM
I would have thought, "wtf is a Bilderbergerer?"

It's been a little longer for me, but we all remember that "ah HAH" moment.

zach
06-07-2010, 06:56 PM
builderburgers. :D

specsaregood
06-07-2010, 06:59 PM
I would have thought, "wtf is a Bilderbergerer?"

Would you like that "animal style"?

jmdrake
06-07-2010, 07:03 PM
This is how we win.

If you laugh at people who mention Bilderberg or CFR, PLEASE read the article. This is how we break them down.

Congratulations to everyone who has been helping to spread the word about these secretive globalist organizations.

January 2009, Michael Savage says "Bilderberg not important"

YouTube - Michael Savage: Bilderberg Group Not Important (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9yd5R73Fss)

January 2010, Michael Savage says it's the "third rail of talk radio" and he "doesn't know much about it" and he'd "rather avoid it" but "if you want to know more about it listen to people who have shortwave radio shows".

YouTube - Michael Savage Takes a Call on Bilderberg Group and the Crotch-Bomber - January 4th, 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3SYsI_ermQ)

June 1, 2010, Michael Savage says "This didn't begin with Obama. It began with the Bilderbergs. It began...you want to go into the whole picture? The CFR, the Bilderbergs, you think I'm not aware of the whole new world order, one world government organizations who's running this whole show?"

See about 4 minutes in for mentioning the Bilderbergs, but the whole clip is good. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you then....

YouTube - Michael Savage - False Flags, Bilderberg, and a New World Order. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47RdwYigmbs)

pacelli
06-07-2010, 07:48 PM
We don't have Bilderberg running scared. Bilderberg is now taking note of people that they deem a threat to the secrecy of their organization. Do you think that Bilderberg is just going to stop planning their events and meetings because they are being exposed? Once the sheep start making too much noise, the next bilderberg agenda will involve some type of false flag attack against the sheep again. This would shift everyone's attention away from bilderberg and on to the catastrophe of the day (for the next few years, in terms of the analysis).

sofia
06-07-2010, 08:00 PM
As much as AJ would like to claim credit.....the limited exposure of the Bildebergers is coming not from him but from their Zionist rivals for world domination.

Zionists are behind the ClimateGate exposures as well as stories about Bildebergers appearing on Drudge.

In retaliation, Bildebergers like Brezinski threaten to shoot down Israeli airplanes flying over Iraq to attack Iran.

There is a lot of tit-for-tat between these two factions.

Bildbergers dont war against Iran (they are more focused on surrounding Russia/China from Afghanistan)...but the Zionists insist.....

Obama is a Bildebgerger stooge...but Zionist Rahm Emmanuel is underming him.

so the Bildebergers are giving in to the Zionists.....expect war on Iran later this year.....and THEN the Zionists will green light the bigger confrontation with Russia-China..

Both groups have overlapping memberships....and both want world government....but the Zionists want Greater Israel to be top dog....whereas the Bildebergers are more Anglo-European centered.

Bildebergers = Trilaterals/CFR/Obama/Brezinksi/European Elites/Soros/Rockefeller
Zionists = Neo Cons/Talk Radio/Sarah Palin/Drudge/Dick Cheney/AIPAC/Mossad

CryLibertyOrDeath
06-07-2010, 09:31 PM
IIRC, Goldman Sachs is one of the biggest net shorters on the Euro, yet they are in the Bilderberg group. How is this reconciled?

Oh why hello there, inconvenient inconsistency with crazy conspiracy theory put forward by Alex Jones.

Travlyr
06-07-2010, 09:35 PM
Oh why hello there, inconvenient inconsistency with crazy conspiracy theory put forward by Alex Jones.

Huh? You are not making sense.

CryLibertyOrDeath
06-07-2010, 09:37 PM
Goldman Sachs is one of the biggest institutional shorts on the Euro and the debt of lesser European governments. If the Bilderberg group is so afraid of the Euro collapsing, why is the most prominent banking member going after it?

jmdrake
06-07-2010, 09:39 PM
Oh why hello there, inconvenient inconsistency with crazy conspiracy theory put forward by Alex Jones.

What's inconsistent about a member of a conspiracy having inside knowledge that the Euro was going to tank and betting against it? You're being inconsistent in your attempt to point out conspiracy inconsistency. Goldman Sachs also bet against the housing bubble they were helping to create.

jmdrake
06-07-2010, 09:41 PM
Goldman Sachs is one of the biggest institutional shorts on the Euro and the debt of lesser European governments. If the Bilderberg group is so afraid of the Euro collapsing, why is the most prominent banking member going after it?

If you were concerned about the Euro collapsing wouldn't you try to cover your losses and/or profit from its inevitable demise. See the "tragedy of the commons" if you don't understand acting in one's own selfish interests.

CryLibertyOrDeath
06-07-2010, 09:42 PM
@jmdrake: If you bothered to read the Alex Jones conspiracy theory you'd have read the part where he says they're in crisis mode over the Euro tanking.

jmdrake
06-07-2010, 09:43 PM
@jmdrake: If you bothered to read the Alex Jones conspiracy theory you'd have read the part where he says they're in crisis mode over the Euro tanking.

I'm not disagreeing with you. And the first thing I'd do if I was in crisis mode about the Euro and I personally had big Euro exposure would be to cover my bets by shorting against the Euro. That's just common sense. Again look at the tragedy of the commons. Just because G.S. actions may not be good for the Bilderberg plans as a whole doesn't mean G.S. wouldn't act in their own selfish interests.

Or here's another example that you might be able to relate to easier. OPEC is a cartel. Everybody knows that it's in their collective best interests to keep oil prices up by restricting supply. But various member states always "cheat" because it's in their short term interest to do so. Same principle could be at work with G.S. and the Euro. In fact I'd say that's likely.

Travlyr
06-07-2010, 09:44 PM
Goldman Sachs is one of the biggest institutional shorts on the Euro and the debt of lesser European governments. If the Bilderberg group is so afraid of the Euro collapsing, why is the most prominent banking member going after it?

This is all about profit. They did not want the Euro to collapse, but since it is collapsing, then they will take profits.

Icymudpuppy
06-07-2010, 09:48 PM
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CryLibertyOrDeath
06-07-2010, 09:48 PM
I'm willing to believe that they saw the Euro as a positive development for their interests, and then shorted it when they thought it might fail. What that suggests to me though, is that they're following the profit motive pure and simple and not part of some monolithic scheme to take over the world, as most depictions of GS are rendered.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Bilderberg group is full of selfish people trying to make backroom deals, but I don't really think they are running the world or have a plan to take it over.

Travlyr
06-07-2010, 09:51 PM
I'm willing to believe that they saw the Euro as a positive development for their interests, and then shorted it when they thought it might fail. What that suggests to me though, is that they're following the profit motive pure and simple and not part of some monolithic scheme to take over the world, as most depictions of GS are rendered.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Bilderberg group is full of selfish people trying to make backroom deals, but I don't really think they are running the world or have a plan to take it over.

Well then you should study history because it is not a theory, it is a fact.

jmdrake
06-07-2010, 09:56 PM
I'm willing to believe that they saw the Euro as a positive development for their interests, and then shorted it when they thought it might fail. What that suggests to me though, is that they're following the profit motive pure and simple and not part of some monolithic scheme to take over the world, as most depictions of GS are rendered.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Bilderberg group is full of selfish people trying to make backroom deals, but I don't really think they are running the world or have a plan to take it over.

I'm not sure what "GS" is, but I'm also not sure why you think "profit motive" and "taking over the world" are mutually exclusive goals. If you own the whole world you get even that much more profit no? And even if they were mutually exclusive, if you saw a particular plan was failing beyond repair, why stick to it?

Anyway Alex Jones (who I haven't listened to consistently for a while) never claimed the conspiracy was "monolithic" but rather factions at times working together and at times fighting each other for control.

CryLibertyOrDeath
06-07-2010, 10:05 PM
I just think that we see efforts at international cooperation fall flat all the time, and when it's in public we laugh and ridicule it, as it deserves (see UN), but whenever something is private we assume that it's somehow more successful.

I sincerely doubt the Bilderberg group has accomplished anything of substance over the course of its history that was not already put in place by the elites in their own national domains. Remember, it came after the 16th Amendment, the Fed, our involvement in WWI, the New Deal, etc.. In many ways we've regained freedom since the New Deal, so if their plan was to take it away they sucked at it.

We have plenty of shit that we know is true to focus on domestically that we know violates our Constitution without speculating about how these people jerk each other off to no effect.

Travlyr
06-07-2010, 10:11 PM
I just think that we see efforts at international cooperation fall flat all the time, and when it's in public we laugh and ridicule it, as it deserves (see UN), but whenever something is private we assume that it's somehow more successful.

I sincerely doubt the Bilderberg group has accomplished anything of substance over the course of its history that was not already put in place by the elites in their own national domains. Remember, it came after the 16th Amendment, the Fed, our involvement in WWI, the New Deal, etc.. In many ways we've regained freedom since the New Deal, so if their plan was to take it away they sucked at it.

We have plenty of shit that we know is true to focus on domestically that we know violates our Constitution without speculating about how these people jerk each other off to no effect.

So, do you believe a New World Order is being implemented before your eyes?

CryLibertyOrDeath
06-07-2010, 10:18 PM
I don't think GHW Bush meant "our plutocratic scheme where we progressively erode liberties and dissolve nationality," when he said "New World Order." I think it's more likely that he meant "A pussy internationalist system that sounds good because we're afraid of the idea of conflict and argument."

I still think we should oppose it, I just don't think I picture it the same way as a lot of people who have posted in this thread do.

I think the worst product of the hostility toward the whole NWO-type of organizations and ideas is that somewhere along the line free trade got confused as being anti-liberty.

Travlyr
06-07-2010, 10:31 PM
I don't think GHW Bush meant "our plutocratic scheme where we progressively erode liberties and dissolve nationality," when he said "New World Order." I think it's more likely that he meant "A pussy internationalist system that sounds good because we're afraid of the idea of conflict and argument."

I still think we should oppose it, I just don't think I picture it the same way as a lot of people who have posted in this thread do.

I think the worst product of the hostility toward the whole NWO-type of organizations and ideas is that somewhere along the line free trade got confused as being anti-liberty.

Okay. Have you read UN's Agenda 21 (http://www.unep.org/Documents.Multilingual/Default.asp?DocumentID=52)?

CryLibertyOrDeath
06-07-2010, 10:42 PM
Again, I agree that's horrible and I'd rather fight a war than see it be implemented or forced upon us, but I think that's the product of stupid beliefs that are popular amongst a certain group of people rather than a smokescreen for the Bilderberg group/NWO to enslave us.

I just don't see why we should assume it's based on deceit instead of just having shitty ideas.

Travlyr
06-07-2010, 10:59 PM
Again, I agree that's horrible and I'd rather fight a war than see it be implemented or forced upon us, but I think that's the product of stupid beliefs that are popular amongst a certain group of people rather than a smokescreen for the Bilderberg group/NWO to enslave us.

I just don't see why we should assume it's based on deceit instead of just having shitty ideas.

It started with the International Bankers -> Federal Reserve -> League of Nations -> UN -> IMF -> World Bank -> Council on Foreign Relations -> Trilateral Commission -> Bilderberg Group and you arrive at the NWO a one world government. It is already in place, but like all grandiose plans... it may not work out because many people want to keep their sovereignty and their liberty. The Internet has exposed their scheme.

amonasro
06-07-2010, 11:05 PM
I just don't see why we should assume it's based on deceit instead of just having shitty ideas.

This deserves to be quoted. Part of separating conspiracy from fact is the ability to understand human interaction at the higher levels of society. Not everyone with money and power is necessarily smart.

devil21
06-08-2010, 01:34 AM
Well this is interesting. It seems Bilderberg actually has a website now. Whois gives a creation date of 25-Nov-2009.

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org

This tells me that their meetings will no longer be of importance. Watch what the other hand is doing instead.

RonPaulwillWin
06-08-2010, 02:12 AM
Heard him on coast 2 coast tonight..with george. He was discussing this.

A. Havnes
06-08-2010, 06:49 AM
You forgot Bill Gates. The press caught him at the airport and he confessed under scrutiny that he was attending the Bilderberg meeting and not the fictitious medical conference that he earlier claimed.


Mandatory vaccines that control the population...

sevin
06-08-2010, 06:56 AM
Well this is interesting. It seems Bilderberg actually has a website now. Whois gives a creation date of 25-Nov-2009.

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org

This tells me that their meetings will no longer be of importance. Watch what the other hand is doing instead.

This.

paulitics
06-08-2010, 07:38 AM
I hope Drudge covers the Bohemenian grove that is coming up as well, where really old republicans dance around naked, dress up in drag, and worship an owl.

Travlyr
06-08-2010, 08:26 AM
Global cooling?

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/meeting2010.html

idirtify
06-08-2010, 08:35 AM
The internet is like a big-brother camera aimed right back at the government; and the fatter the rat, the harder it will be to hide.

Fredom101
06-08-2010, 08:41 AM
Bilderberg exists.
Government exists.

Which one of these two organizations do we as a species ALLOW to rule at least part of our lives, knowingly and willingly?
Which one of these two organizations is actually carrying out the violence and immoral actions like stealing money?
Which one of these two organizations could we shake off if we wanted to?

Think. Bilderberg wouldn't exist if not for government. Government is simply a tool for the power hungry to use to control large populations. Time to re-evaluate government and look for better, more peaceful solutions.

Fredom101
06-08-2010, 08:42 AM
It started with the International Bankers -> Federal Reserve -> League of Nations -> UN -> IMF -> World Bank -> Council on Foreign Relations -> Trilateral Commission -> Bilderberg Group and you arrive at the NWO a one world government. It is already in place, but like all grandiose plans... it may not work out because many people want to keep their sovereignty and their liberty. The Internet has exposed their scheme.

So people prefer their local mafia to the distant mafia?

torchbearer
06-08-2010, 08:49 AM
So people prefer their local mafia to the distant mafia?

that was jeffersons argument, that a local mafia is better than a distant mafia.
if the mayor takes away my property or rights, i can easily find him in person.
he will be sitting in my diner later today.

If Obama takes away my property and rights, I have no access to him.

jmdrake
06-09-2010, 08:46 PM
In many ways we've regained freedom since the New Deal, so if their plan was to take it away they sucked at it.


Really? Can you name one major development of the new deal that's been rolled back? Medicare? Social Security? Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? The expansion of the interstate commerce clause? Federal government control of agriculture through subsidies and "allotments" that tell farmers how much food they can grow? Even when someone hint at rolling back part of the new deal the media whips the sheep up into a frenzy. And when the sheep start to wise up to the fact that the new deal is a big part of the problem (for example Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac helping to cause the financial crisis) the media successfully diverts everyone's attention to non issues.