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Reason
06-03-2010, 10:59 AM
YouTube - Montage: Cumbria shootings in 24 hours (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B75e0CczoIw)

I just finished writing a lengthy research paper on gun control in the US vs the UK a few weeks ago and then just the other day (June 2nd) here is another perfect case of no one defending themselves while a nut job massacres everyone...

For those that aren't aware, this is the third large scale "massacre" like this in the UK. The previous two resulted in massive gun banning legislation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings

Here are some graphs I used in my presentation.

UK
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/Reasoning/UKGraph01.jpg

US
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/Reasoning/UKGraph02.jpg

KCIndy
06-03-2010, 11:21 AM
I just finished writing a lengthy research paper on gun control in the US vs the UK a few weeks ago and then just the other day (June 2nd) here is another perfect case of no one defending themselves while a nut job massacres everyone...

For those that aren't aware, this is the third large scale "massacre" like this in the UK. The previous two resulted in massive gun banning legislation.


Yep.

Pretty hard to defend oneself if the government has confiscated all weapons from the law abiding public. I know that's the point you're making, I'm just agreeing with you.

Sadly, we lost Great Britain to the insanity of Political Correctness some years ago. I'm worried we're next here in the U.S.A. I think we're already halfway there.... :(

Baptist
06-03-2010, 03:10 PM
Cool charts dude. I'd love to see some for U.S. cities like D.C. and Chicago.

Reason
06-03-2010, 03:37 PM
Cool charts dude. I'd love to see some for U.S. cities like D.C. and Chicago.

In 1976 severe gun restricting legislation was passed for the entire area of Washington D.C.
Before 1976 the murder rate had been declining, however soon afterward, the rate climbed to the highest of all large U.S. cities. “In 12 of the years between 1980 and 1997, including all nine years from 1989 through 1997, the violent crime rate in D.C. exceeded 2,000 per 100,000, reaching a high of 2,922 in 1993, versus 1,481 in 1976 a 97 percent increase in violent crime, 17 years after citizens were forbidden from defending themselves with firearms.” Two non-partisan, respected federal government agencies recently examined gun controls and found no statistically significant evidence to support their effectiveness. In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, and 43 government publications evaluating 80 gun-control measures. “The researchers could not identify a single gun-control regulation that reduced violent crime, suicide, or accidents. A year earlier, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on an independent evaluation of firearms and ammunition bans, restrictions on acquisition, waiting periods, registration, licensing, child access prevention laws, and zero tolerance laws. Conclusion: none of the laws had a meaningful impact on gun violence.”


In 2008 the Supreme Court of the United States struck down the DC gun ban. Now over a year after the removal of the ban, the city’s murder rate has plummeted 25%.