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brandon
05-31-2010, 08:02 PM
Anyone know? In PA I'm paying about $6.20 on average for a pack of camels. 10 years ago I only paid about $2.80. Anyone know what the real price is, before the myriad of taxes?

james1906
05-31-2010, 08:09 PM
This chart might help.

http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0097.pdf

God bless Missouri.

Razmear
05-31-2010, 08:19 PM
Well, we've been making our own for over a year at a cost of about 75cents a pack.
Get "pipe" tobacco from here:
http://lilbrown.com/
for about $13.00 a pound.
Vision Hunter and TGS (The Good Stuff) are both good brands at about this price. If your smoking camels you'd probably like TGS Full Flavor (FF).
Filtered tubes are $10 per 1000 (5 cartons) for the Twister FF Kings, one pound makes about 500 cigs.
The Top-O-Matic cranks out about 2 packs in 10 minutes, not much of a learning curve to make em, and it's nicer knowing that if I run out of cigs at 3am I can just go to the kitchen table and make another pack instead of finding a store that's still open.

just noticed your in Philly,
http://www.smokersoutletonline.com/
should be local for you, might be cheaper shipping.

Also:
http://ryorevolution.com/
has a great forum with folks who can help you out.

Stop paying the taxes, make your own.
eb

bossman068410
05-31-2010, 08:46 PM
Well, we've been making our own for over a year at a cost of about 75cents a pack.
Get "pipe" tobacco from here:
http://lilbrown.com/
for about $13.00 a pound.
Vision Hunter and TGS (The Good Stuff) are both good brands at about this price. If your smoking camels you'd probably like TGS Full Flavor (FF).
Filtered tubes are $10 per 1000 (5 cartons) for the Twister FF Kings, one pound makes about 500 cigs.
The Top-O-Matic cranks out about 2 packs in 10 minutes, not much of a learning curve to make em, and it's nicer knowing that if I run out of cigs at 3am I can just go to the kitchen table and make another pack instead of finding a store that's still open.

just noticed your in Philly,
http://www.smokersoutletonline.com/
should be local for you, might be cheaper shipping.

Also:
http://ryorevolution.com/
has a great forum with folks who can help you out.

Stop paying the taxes, make your own.
eb

I do the same... I average paying $1.00 a pack.
I'm going to plant some tobbacco this year and try it out.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2010, 08:48 PM
I do the same... I average paying $1.00 a pack.
I'm going to plant some tobbacco this year and try it out.

We tried that last year, but we're outside the good growing area, too cold and it was so cold and wet last summer we had a total crop failure.

I'd like to know how you make out.

Anti Federalist
05-31-2010, 09:00 PM
Well, we've been making our own for over a year at a cost of about 75cents a pack.

Get "pipe" tobacco from here:
http://lilbrown.com/

Stop paying the taxes, make your own.
eb

From that website:


Congress's latest proposed tax hike is H.R. 4439, the "Tobacco Tax Parity Act of 2010." This bill raises the federal excise tax on pipe tobacco by 775%. Sign our petition to let these representatives know that this bill should not be passed as the American taxpayer and American consumer has been taxed enough.

catdd
05-31-2010, 09:04 PM
I know some Amish folks that grow some good burley.

Razmear
05-31-2010, 09:04 PM
I've thought about growing tobacco as well. From what I've read, the growing isn't the hard part, its the curing process to make it smokable. If your ready to build a curing shed and wait maybe a year before you smoke your crop, this link will help guide you:

http://forum.ryorevolution.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=89&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=grow+your+own

RYO/MYO is my personal tea party, I'm not paying for insurance for others when I don't even have any myself.

eb

catdd
05-31-2010, 09:06 PM
[QUOTE=Razmear;2728391]I've thought about growing tobacco as well. From what I've read, the growing isn't the hard part, its the curing process to make it smokable. If your ready to build a curing shed and wait maybe a year before you smoke your crop."

Yeah, it takes about a year to cure if you want good quality.

libertybrewcity
05-31-2010, 09:06 PM
http://www.thetobaccoseed.com/

grow your own!

Razmear
05-31-2010, 09:09 PM
From that website:

The PACT Act is actually more dangerous than the tax on pipe tobacco. (although they both suck).
If the PACT (Preventing All Cigarette Trafficking) Act passes it would ban shipping any tobacco product by mail or private courier (UPS etc). They say its for the children, but they just want to ensure their local tax dollars.

eb

Anti Federalist
05-31-2010, 09:10 PM
The PACT Act is actually more dangerous than the tax on pipe tobacco. (although they both suck).
If the PACT (Preventing All Cigarette Trafficking) Act passes it would ban shipping any tobacco product by mail or private courier (UPS etc). They say its for the children, but they just want to ensure their local tax dollars.

eb

Another day in the land of the free...

Suzu
05-31-2010, 10:45 PM
Growing your own is the way to go. I currently get "Largo pipe tobacco" for $9/lb. at a store in Springfield + Bugler papers (not tubes, no filters) by the carton for about $12. A carton of papers will last through about 8 lbs. of tobacco.

At a rate of around a "pack" per day, it works out to costing around 40 cents/pack or $2.80/week, $12/month to smoke hand-rolled cigs. This cost will drop to almost nothing with the first crop of homegrown tobacco and foregoing papers for a traditional Missouri corncob pipe.

tangent4ronpaul
05-31-2010, 11:03 PM
This chart might help.

http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0097.pdf

God bless Missouri.

Interesting - thanks. Washington state is missing along with some others...

Thanks,

-t

Ekrub
06-01-2010, 12:54 PM
Washington State is 2nd.

Washington
$3.025
2nd

I pay around 8.50/pack for Marlboro Reds. Damn my tax-happy state.