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libertybrewcity
05-31-2010, 01:15 PM
Detroit to bulldoze thousands of homes in fight for survival

David Bing, a businessman and former all-star basketball player who entered politics late in life, says he has no choice.
The 2010 census is expected to reveal a population of about 800,000, down from a peak of 1.8 million in the Motor City heyday of the late 1950s.

The long decline of the car industry and all its spin-off business has been exacerbated by the collapse of a housing market that has left prices close to what they were 50 years ago, when lifestyle magazines featured Detroit as the most desirable city in the United States.

Decent three-bedroom homes can be bought for $10,000, but no one wants to buy.
Decades of poor and at times corrupt administration have also taken their toll, and with the city facing a deficit of between $85 and $124 million this year, the answer, says Mr Bing, is to accept reality and reduce the size of the city.

"There is just too much land and too many expenses for us to continue to manage the city as we have in the past," he said. "If we don't do it, this whole city is going to go down."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7778335/Detroit-to-bulldoze-thousands-of-homes-in-fight-for-survival.html

FreeTraveler
05-31-2010, 01:26 PM
Rip about 90% of the regulations out of the rule book, quite trying to micromanage everybody's lives, and those houses would sell in a month. I'd buy one myself to live in a relatively free city.

angelatc
05-31-2010, 01:34 PM
Rip about 90% of the regulations out of the rule book, quite trying to micromanage everybody's lives, and those houses would sell in a month. I'd buy one myself to live in a relatively free city.

Taxes are too high to live there.

FreeTraveler
05-31-2010, 01:46 PM
Taxes are too high to live there.
Ah, but with 90% of the rulebook burned, taxes would be a pittance.

First city that declares itself a libertarian paradise wins.

susano
05-31-2010, 01:49 PM
Rip about 90% of the regulations out of the rule book, quite trying to micromanage everybody's lives, and those houses would sell in a month. I'd buy one myself to live in a relatively free city.

Have you been to Detroit?

Anti Federalist
05-31-2010, 01:55 PM
A microcosmic snapshot of the entire US.

specsaregood
05-31-2010, 02:07 PM
Have you been to Detroit?

I think you are missing his point. He is saying destroy the detroit that is and create a new small govt detroit and people will flock there. Its a valid argument.

susano
05-31-2010, 02:12 PM
I think you are missing his point. He is saying destroy the detroit that is and create a new small govt detroit and people will flock there. Its a valid argument.

I was reponding to the poster saying s/he would buy a house in Detroit if they ditched all the micromanaging and gov't interfernce. My point is that Detroit is a shit hole, riddled with crime. No sane person would live there even if they were paid to!

specsaregood
05-31-2010, 02:15 PM
I was reponding to the poster saying s/he would buy a house in Detroit if they ditched all the micromanaging and gov't interfernce. My point is that Detroit is a shit hole, riddled with crime. No sane person would live there even if they were paid to!

I dunno, things get cheap enough I'd consider moving there, buying up a entire neighborhood, walling it off, building a moat and running my own fiefdom.

susano
05-31-2010, 02:17 PM
YouTube - George4title, Inflation.us Detroit Ground Zero for Economic Collapse Part 1/4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3tH2jFaFW4&feature=related)

There are three more parts

susano
05-31-2010, 02:18 PM
I dunno, things get cheap enough I'd consider moving there, buying up a entire neighborhood, walling it off, building a moat and running my own fiefdom.

lol

That's kind of how it's worked out in Gary, Indiana. The fiefdoms are meth rings.

susano
05-31-2010, 02:25 PM
YouTube - A Tour Of Detroit's Ghetto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM&feature=related)

Democrats in charge for a century
Free trade agreements/globalization
Deindustrialization

Adios Detroit

susano
05-31-2010, 02:29 PM
Jeez, that last video is from 2006! Imagine how much worse it is now.

libertybrewcity
05-31-2010, 03:02 PM
wow, i feel bad for people who have to live in detroit. looks very depressing

libertybrewcity
05-31-2010, 03:09 PM
haha, check out the dude falling at 5:43..lol

JRegs85
05-31-2010, 03:30 PM
I dunno, things get cheap enough I'd consider moving there, buying up a entire neighborhood, walling it off, building a moat and running my own fiefdom.

This isn't unheard of. There's a handful of groups who have purchased a few adjoining houses and surrounded them with intense barbed-wire fences and other security measures.

The city either doesn't notice or doesn't care.

I've seen one....it's like a movie. They literally had a dozen or so houses in a rectangle shape, surrounded by some type of high, reinforced fence.

Ricky201
05-31-2010, 05:04 PM
Detroit = The rest of America in a few years.

Michigan11
05-31-2010, 06:06 PM
Detroit = The rest of America in a few years.

True... get ready for the Ameritroit!:D

samforpaul
05-31-2010, 08:01 PM
Could someone tell me where the mass exodus of people went to?
Suburbs, South, Deceased...? I'd like to know.
Thanks in advance.

angelatc
05-31-2010, 08:13 PM
Could someone tell me where the mass exodus of people went to?
Suburbs, South, Deceased...? I'd like to know.

Suburbs or out of the state. Taxes in the city are too high, the schools are the worst in the nation... by and large the only people that live there are people who do not work or produce anything. They live on the dole.

cindy25
05-31-2010, 09:33 PM
the people on the dole would be on the dole anywhere, until you take away the dole.

end food stamps, end medicaid, not reduce but abolish them

angelatc
05-31-2010, 09:42 PM
the people on the dole would be on the dole anywhere, until you take away the dole.

end food stamps, end medicaid, not reduce but abolish them

I agree with you but realistically we can't do that until people have the ability to find employment. We could have done it during the CLinton years, before they started importing Mexicans.

nate895
05-31-2010, 09:47 PM
Looks like Rome back before the Barbarians went and took the last little bit of it. If anyone doubts we are on the same road then they are a fool.

HOLLYWOOD
05-31-2010, 11:18 PM
Jeez, that last video is from 2006! Imagine how much worse it is now.
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii331/refyousuck/detroit-ghetto2.jpghttp://www.moonbattery.com/detroit-ruins.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd106/TheAutark/SlumFuture.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ymx9e66vrGc/SjPTzjIK4xI/AAAAAAAAJL4/qJOhceHh4dc/s1600/2983747527_93766c2115.jpg
http://amonthindetroit.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/building2.jpg
http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae201/esabatino/101_9447.jpg

HOLLYWOOD
05-31-2010, 11:27 PM
Jeez, that last video is from 2006! Imagine how much worse it is now.

http://cache.wists.com/thumbnails/3/8a/38a0f50867e2c95d500b9428affdadb9-orighttp://squidgemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/100_abandoned_houses.jpg
http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/detroit-michigan-central-station.jpghttp://www.vagabondish.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/michigan-central-station.jpg

angelatc
06-01-2010, 12:02 AM
That last one is the old train station. It was amazing back in the day.

libertybrewcity
06-01-2010, 01:09 AM
That last one is the old train station. It was amazing back in the day.

wow, that was a train station! what was on the upper floors? that is not a typical train station.

cindy25
06-01-2010, 01:28 AM
wow, that was a train station! what was on the upper floors? that is not a typical train station.

just guessing, but probably offices and restaurants. it is quite typical of the time

angelatc
06-01-2010, 05:11 AM
just guessing, but probably offices and restaurants. it is quite typical of the time

According to Wikipedia, ....
tower was originally designed to include a hotel, offices for the rail company, or a combination of both. In reality, the tower was only used for office space by the Michigan Central Railroad and subsequent owners of the building. The interiors of at least the top floor were completed and served no function.

Apparently Detroit was run by idiots even then.

Elle
06-01-2010, 07:11 AM
Detroit has been a mess for a very long time. Thank you Cloward-Piven for such a wonderful strategy. Worked wonders for Detroit.

There are homes for a lot less than $10k. There are some for $100 that won't sell. Block after block of vacant homes.

samforpaul
06-01-2010, 07:16 AM
YouTube - George4title, Inflation.us Detroit Ground Zero for Economic Collapse Part 1/4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3tH2jFaFW4&feature=related)

There are three more parts


I found this to be quite interesting. Where may the other three parts be found?
Thanks.