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Jim McClarin
05-29-2010, 09:28 AM
Glenn Beck’s Departure from Fox News, Part I
May 28th, 2010

By Robert Ringer

On rare occasions, a unique figure bursts onto the national stage and has a dramatic impact on politics, culture, or both. Glenn Beck is one of those figures. He is surely the biggest, fastest, most controversial star in the political commentary business in my lifetime.

Beck is a real-life version of Howard Beale, the fictional television commentator in the 1976 film classic Network. Beale whipped his cultish TV audience into a frenzy, exhorting them to stick their heads out the window and chant, ”I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!”

Much to the chagrin of the oligarchy in Washington, however, Glenn Beck is not a fictional character. He’s real, and he has succeeded in enlightening his audience far beyond Beale’s simple rants about the unfairness of life. Beck is much more knowledgeable, much more factual, much more rational, and much more focused on the key issue: America’s loss of liberty.

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Part II:

Posted: May 28, 2010

In Part 1 of this article, I expressed my concern that Glenn Beck might not be around for the long term at Fox News. As I watch him strip BHO and other members of Crime Inc. down to their dirty underwear every day at 5 p.m., I ponder what the Obamaviks will do to try to stop him from destroying their efforts to transform the U.S. into a collectivist paradise.

In that regard, I can envision four possibilities for Beck's exit:

Assassination
On more than one occasion, Beck has alluded to cement boots and his ending up at the bottom of the East River. He has also assured his audience that he has no inclination to jump off a tall building, and if something like that would ever happen to him, it would not be accidental.

Even more ominous is that Beck continually tells his audience that this isn't about him, that each and every one of them must stand up and carry on the fight. When he says this, it sparks memories of Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous words at a Memphis rally the night before he was murdered: "I may not get there with you, but I want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land."

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http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2734278:BlogPost:172008&commentId=2734278:Comment:172015&xg_source=activity&xgs=1

speciallyblend
05-29-2010, 02:00 PM
beck is a moron(liar insert whatever word you like)!!! beck is a dingleberry that must be dropped so that Liberty can Live!! take some ex-lax and flush in the morning!!

virgil47
05-29-2010, 02:12 PM
beck is a moron(liar insert whatever word you like)!!! beck is a dingleberry that must be dropped so that Liberty can Live!! take some ex-lax and flush in the morning!!

What a childish and unintelligent thing to say!

TC95
05-29-2010, 02:19 PM
What a misleading title! For a minute there, I thought Glenn Beck had quit or got fired from Fox News. Guess not. What a letdown. :(


:D

MRoCkEd
05-29-2010, 02:21 PM
Yes, let's get rid of the most libertarian host to make room for more neocons!

Anti Federalist
05-29-2010, 02:22 PM
So, is Beck gone from Fox news or what?

RM918
05-29-2010, 03:10 PM
So, is Beck gone from Fox news or what?

This guy's just arguing with himself.

Anti Federalist
05-29-2010, 03:25 PM
This guy's just arguing with himself.

I realized that after reading into it further...

Sheesh, wtf?

Depressed Liberator
05-29-2010, 03:31 PM
Yes, let's get rid of the most libertarian host to make room for more neocons!

lol

Toureg89
05-29-2010, 04:10 PM
GB is no libertarian. he tries to coopt libertarians by making references to the FF, the Founding Documents, and limited government, but he's right there with the neocons when his words are put to the test (calling tea partiers/ron paul supporters terrorists, defending the wars in iraq/afghanistan, accusing a muslim congressman of being a terrorist, exc.)

but he is just a hair-notch above O'Reilly, so i'd like to see him gone right after the Factor gets dropped.

MRoCkEd
05-29-2010, 04:13 PM
he's right there with the neocons when his words are put to the test (calling tea partiers/ron paul supporters terrorists, defending the wars in iraq/afghanistan, accusing a muslim congressman of being a terrorist, exc.)
Those instances are from three years ago, but as Glenn Beck himself admits, he "becomes more libertarian every day."

YouTube - Glenn Beck's Apology to Libertarians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FuEWxTvRGY)

YouTube - Glenn Beck 04-15-10-A.flv.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj79gOHOLcc)

Kludge
05-29-2010, 04:17 PM
I love you, Mark. :D

Toureg89
05-29-2010, 04:21 PM
how his stance changed on War on Terror/War on Drugs?

if not, then, i don't care.

MRoCkEd
05-29-2010, 04:27 PM
how his stance changed on War on Terror/War on Drugs?

if not, then, i don't care.
Did you watch the videos?
He supports slashing the military budget.

War on drugs: Yes, he said he supports leaving drugs (and prostitution) to the states.

tangent4ronpaul
05-29-2010, 04:28 PM
GB is no libertarian. he tries to coopt libertarians by making references to the FF, the Founding Documents, and limited government, but he's right there with the neocons when his words are put to the test (calling tea partiers/ron paul supporters terrorists, defending the wars in iraq/afghanistan, accusing a muslim congressman of being a terrorist, exc.)

but he is just a hair-notch above O'Reilly, so i'd like to see him gone right after the Factor gets dropped.

What alternate universe did you just step off?

This is the same GB that said (paraphrased) "I'm not quite with Ron Paul yet, but I'm getting there"

The same GB that has had Ron, Rand, other liberty candidates Stossol and the Judge on regularly - in fact he has the Judge fill in for him regularly.

The same GB that actively encourages his audience to attend tea parties and has spoken at them.

The same GB that on an almost daily basis exposes dirt on the elites and power structure.

The same GB who tries to work civic lessons into his shows regularly.

The same GB that considers himself a Libertarian (though comes up lacking in the foreign policy dept - though for that matter, Rand might also.)

We ARE talking about the same person? - Right?

-t

Toureg89
05-29-2010, 04:34 PM
We ARE talking about the same person? - Right?

-t
idk...

i stopped watching his show about a year ago...

so maybe my views on where he stands are outdated.

YumYum
05-29-2010, 04:36 PM
Those instances are from three years ago, but as Glenn Beck himself admits, he "becomes more libertarian every day."

YouTube - Glenn Beck's Apology to Libertarians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FuEWxTvRGY)

YouTube - Glenn Beck 04-15-10-A.flv.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj79gOHOLcc)

All the Tea Baggers claim they are becoming more "Libertarian" everyday, but they are not. Beck and those that listen to him are Israeli Firsters, and they adhere to the neocons foreign policy of wars and empire building. Beck and Palin have ripped off parts of Ron Paul's message because it appeals to conservatives, but they all put Israel's interest first ahead of this country. Dr. Ron Paul does not.

If Beck hates socialism so bad, why doesn't he cry like a baby over the hundreds of billions of dollars this country has given Israel in welfare?

emazur
05-29-2010, 05:17 PM
how his stance changed on War on Terror/War on Drugs?

if not, then, i don't care.

He did a full episode maybe 4 to 6 weeks ago on how a non-interventionist policy is the way America should go. I haven't seen it but there was a thread on here.

Haven't heard him talking about drugs, but on his premium website he recently uploaded a special on the history of the Fed (I haven't seen it) and he's the only TV host I've seen who's called for the Fed to be shut down
YouTube - Glenn Beck: The Fed needs to be shut down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm3QRPy3Qaw)

silentshout
05-29-2010, 05:18 PM
I've only watched Glnn Beck once, boy did I have some good laughs that night. I hope he stays on for comedy value alone.

YumYum
05-29-2010, 05:24 PM
He did a full episode maybe 4 to 6 weeks ago on how a non-interventionist policy is the way America should go. I haven't seen it but there was a thread on here.

Haven't heard him talking about drugs, but on his premium website he recently uploaded a special on the history of the Fed (I haven't seen it) and he's the only TV host I've seen who's called for the Fed to be shut down
YouTube - Glenn Beck: The Fed needs to be shut down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm3QRPy3Qaw)

I haven't heard of him advocating non-interventionism. Not too long ago he had John Bolton on his show and got all choked up how Obama was turning his back on Israel. Listening to him and Bolton made me sick.

If he really has taken a non-interventionist stance two things will happen.

1) I will forgive him.

2) Fox News will fire his ass.

JohnEngland
05-29-2010, 05:26 PM
I've only watched Glnn Beck once, boy did I have some good laughs that night. I hope he stays on for comedy value alone.

Well this is the thing. Not only is Beck often quite hilarious, but he's pretty good at giving a history or economic lecture and make it sound like the most amazing and important thing that you should know. Not that there aren't others like this - I find Tom Woods to be very good at entertaining and informing people, too.

RM918
05-29-2010, 05:47 PM
We'll see whether Beck is the real deal when 2011 rolls around.

Old Ducker
05-29-2010, 05:53 PM
I thought Ringer had more sense than to come up with this nonsense.

emazur
05-29-2010, 05:59 PM
I haven't heard of him advocating non-interventionism. Not too long ago he had John Bolton on his show and got all choked up how Obama was turning his back on Israel. Listening to him and Bolton made me sick.

If he really has taken a non-interventionist stance two things will happen.

1) I will forgive him.

2) Fox News will fire his ass.

I couldn't find the thread or the vid but I found this:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=144405

The final commemorative Beck breakthrough came on April the 15th, when the Fox star roared, "I'm with Ron Paul on foreign policy!" Beck followed with a column, "America Is a Republic, Not an Empire," in which this scrupulously good fellow announced his support for a "no loitering" policy. If Glenn got his way, no longer would the United States be "the world's loiterer," spending hundreds of billions (closer to $1 trillion by the estimation of economist Robert Higgs) on spreading Jacobin – not Jeffersonian – ideas across the globe.

I think he still thinks of Israel as an ally though (I don't much watch his show anymore since he turned his show into a 1 hour daily monologue with maybe 1 or 2 guests if you're lucky)

No1ButPaul08
05-29-2010, 06:00 PM
Question: Why doesn't Glenn Beck rarely have Peter Schiff on his Fox show after having him on all the time on CNNHN

Answer: Because Glenn Beck does what Fox News tells him to do.

PatriotOne
05-29-2010, 08:04 PM
Ugh...just turned off Beck after watching for 10 minutes. Not only is he an actor but a bad one at that. I know I sound like a broken record but some people here still don't get it.

1. GB is a pied piper.
2. His job is to gain the trust of the sheeple. Be your friend.
3. Next election he will offer up the next false messiah that has already been hand picked/groomed to "save this country" but in reality continue the agenda .
4. The ignorant will believe the lies of the next savior, get elected, and then...like Obama....continue the path and all the campaign promises will be forgotten.

I can't believe some people on this board doesn't yet understand the game. Oh well..it will be obvious to most on this board when all this comes true next election season. However, we are not his target audience. Sadly, most people don't understand the depth of deception by those really in power nor understand what the real agenda is. Those people are his target audience.

Vessol
05-29-2010, 08:09 PM
If Beck was actually fired from Fox News I'd probably think of him as playing it real, but till then..yeah.

TruckinMike
05-29-2010, 08:42 PM
We'll see whether Beck is the real deal when 2011 rolls around.

Truckin' Mike Prediction: Glenn Beck will endorse Newt Gengrich for president.

:)

kylejack
05-29-2010, 08:52 PM
Yes, let's get rid of the most libertarian host to make room for more neocons!
Who gives a shit, it's Fox News. Beck is awful.

rprprs
05-29-2010, 09:24 PM
Well this is the thing. Not only is Beck often quite hilarious, but he's pretty good at giving a history or economic lecture and make it sound like the most amazing and important thing that you should know. Not that there aren't others like this - I find Tom Woods to be very good at entertaining and informing people, too.

I'll take Tom Woods, thanks. Somehow, Libertarians in Lederhosen just don't do it for me.

libertarian4321
05-30-2010, 02:08 AM
Beck is a braying jackass who is only "libertarian" when the Dems are in power.

Wait until the next big government Republican is in office, and his "libertarianism" will disappear instantaneously and he'll be back to supporting the big government Republicans, just as he did when Bush was in power.

devil21
05-30-2010, 05:00 AM
Bad thread title!

Ive been on vacation for the last 4 days and havent so much as turned on a tv or went online.

speciallyblend
05-30-2010, 06:16 AM
YouTube - Jump Smokers 'Don't be a Douchebag' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ee3xemyQjI)

j6p
05-30-2010, 06:48 AM
Why does he not talk about republicans who, like Obama wants to turn this country into communist russia. Mr. Bush sneior's father helping the Nazis during WW2? Glen Beck doesnt talk about that. Wonder who Beck will support in 2011, bet it's not a liberty cannidate.

nayjevin
05-30-2010, 07:05 AM
It looks like divide and conquer, the Rush Limbaugh / Al Franken game to me. I will admit it's been a long time since I watched the guy. But he's such a discredited character in so many eyes that it's dangerous for him to be seen as any kind of leader for liberty.

I can't help but picture him scoping out potential rufie victims with Frank Luntz at a frat party - so think how your average Daily Show watcher feels about him.

It's advantageous for Beck to appeal to the fastest growing audience in America, those who favor smaller government. It's advantageous for him to do so to the network he's on as well.

It's also advantageous to big government supporters for Beck to be seen as some 'leader' of the small government types. Because half the population will forever discredit Beck, they will tend to discredit the 'movement' to which he's associated.