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Mach
05-28-2010, 02:38 PM
Yes, Google is coming out with, TV Internet. Yes, I'm serious.

http://www.google.com/tv/

ChaosControl
05-28-2010, 03:45 PM
Google is like trying to become our overlord.
Someday, I swear, Google will be the government and run all our lives.

Kludge
05-28-2010, 03:48 PM
Hardly a fault to be innovating to such perceived usefulness.

Cheers, GOOG.

BlackTerrel
05-28-2010, 07:54 PM
Google is like trying to become our overlord.
Someday, I swear, Google will be the government and run all our lives.

People forget how hard it was to find information on the web before Google came along.

If someone can do a better job then by all means - we'd all love it.

0zzy
05-28-2010, 07:56 PM
I, for one, welcome our overlords! Their workplace is very libertarian, I think! (not the workers, but the workplace itself as they allow their workers to work on individual projects during company time).

Fozz
05-28-2010, 08:04 PM
Not to rain on your parade, but Google is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.

0zzy
05-28-2010, 08:04 PM
Not to rain on your parade, but Google is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.

so is every other freakin large corporation in the world. won't stop me from using their service.

Fozz
05-28-2010, 08:06 PM
so is every other freakin large corporation in the world. won't stop me from using their service.

I'm all for using Google if it will help our cause, but deep down they are despicable.

Kludge
05-28-2010, 08:08 PM
I'm all for using Google if it will help our cause, but deep down they are despicable.

Alll Google wants is a hug. Find the CEO and corner him. Then give him a biiiiiiiig hug, okay?

Vessol
05-28-2010, 08:17 PM
I'm sure it'd be great to work for Google, but I don't really like the whole collect all my information thing.

0zzy
05-28-2010, 08:19 PM
I'm sure it'd be great to work for Google, but I don't really like the whole collect all my information thing.

then boy, I found a site for you!

https://www.google.com/

Vessol
05-28-2010, 08:21 PM
"With Google search over SSL, you can have an end-to-end encrypted search solution between your computer and Google. This secured channel helps protect your search terms and your search results pages from being intercepted by a third party"

As I'm using this service provided by Google, they are not a third party and thus are still entitled to my search terms.

0zzy
05-28-2010, 08:30 PM
"With Google search over SSL, you can have an end-to-end encrypted search solution between your computer and Google. This secured channel helps protect your search terms and your search results pages from being intercepted by a third party"

As I'm using this service provided by Google, they are not a third party and thus are still entitled to my search terms.

touche touche!

I still like Google and will continue using its services though. What can I say, I'm a fool in love!

specsaregood
05-28-2010, 08:37 PM
"With Google search over SSL, you can have an end-to-end encrypted search solution between your computer and Google. This secured channel helps protect your search terms and your search results pages from being intercepted by a third party"

As I'm using this service provided by Google, they are not a third party and thus are still entitled to my search terms.

And even whether ssl is safe from certain entities is up for debate or skepticism.
http://files.cloudprivacy.net/ssl-mitm.pdf



Certified Lies: Detecting and Defeating Government Interception Attacks Against SSL
By:Christopher Soghoian and Sid Stammy

Excerpts:
Abstract
This paper introduces a new attack, the compelled certifcate creation attack, in which
government agencies compel a certicate au-thority to issue false SSL certicates that are
then used by intelligence agencies to covertly intercept and hijack individuals' secure Web-based communications. We reveal alarming evidence that suggests that this attack is in active use. Finally, we introduce a lightweight browser add-on that detects and thwarts such attacks.

A pro-democracy dissident in China connects to a secure web forum hosted on servers outside the country. Relying on the training she received from foreign human rights groups, she makes certain to look for the SSL encryption lock icon in her web browser, and only after determining that the connection is secure does she enter her login credentials and then begin to upload materials to be shared with her colleagues. However, unknown to the activist, the Chinese government is able to covertly intercept SSL encrypted connections. Agents from the state security apparatus soon arrive at her residence, leading to her arrest, detention and violent
interrogation. While this scenario is fictitious, the vulnerability is not.

The security and confidentiality of millions of Internet transactions per day depend upon the Secure
Socket Layer (SSL)/Transport Layer Security (TLS) protocol. At the core of this system are a num-
ber of Certificate Authorities (CAs), each of which is responsible for verifying the identity of the entities to whom they grant SSL certicates. It is because of the condentiality and authenticity provided by the CA based public key infrastructure that users around the world can bank online, engage in electronic commerce and communicate with their friends and loved ones about the most sensitive of subjects without having to worry about malicious
third parties intercepting and deciphering their communications.

While not known to most users, the CAs are one of the weakest links in the SSL public key infras-
tructure, a problem amplied by the fact that the major web browsers trust hundreds of dierent rms
to issue certicates. Each of these rms can be compelled by their national government to issue a
certicate for any particular website that all web browsers will trust without warning. Thus, users
around the world are put in a position where their browser entrusts their private data, indirectly, to a
large number of governments (both foreign and domestic) whom these individuals would never ordi-
narily trust. In this paper, we introduces a new attack, the compelled certicate creation attack, in which government agencies compel (via a court order or some other legal process) a CA to issue false certicates
that are then used by law enforcement and intelligence agencies to covertly intercept and hijack in-
dividuals' secure communications. As far as we are aware, we are the rst to formally introduce and
analyze this attack in the academic literature. We also reveal alarming evidence that suggests
that this attack is more than a theoretical concern, but is in fact in active use. Furthermore, we reveal that at least one private company is supplying government customers with specialized covert network appliances specically designed to intercept SSL communications using compelled certificates.

More at lengthy PDF above....

nayjevin
05-28-2010, 09:20 PM
let's use gttp://

amonasro
05-28-2010, 09:30 PM
Google is like trying to become our overlord.
Someday, I swear, Google will be the government and run all our lives.

You'd think they could have thought of a better name.

"Yes Lord Google, anything you say Lord Google..."

BlackTerrel
05-30-2010, 03:15 AM
I'm sure it'd be great to work for Google, but I don't really like the whole collect all my information thing.

Don't use them. There are plenty of other search engines.

sevin
05-30-2010, 03:58 AM
Google is evil. They are the official search engine of the New World Order.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18540_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-google.html

idiom
05-30-2010, 04:44 AM
Well, makes sense, they are the de facto search engine of the current world order.

pacelli
05-30-2010, 05:45 AM
http://www.scroogle.org/gifs/clippy.gif

http://www.scroogle.org/gifs/g2press.gif

http://www.scroogle.org/gifs/scream3.gif

http://www.scroogle.org/gifs/infowar.jpg

Jordan
05-30-2010, 08:05 AM
Google will continue to put out amazing products that people want.

Anywhere from 80-90% of people in the US use its product, so it has some of the best market research data on the planet. It knows exactly what people want in every device, and if it ever starts to understand customer support, it might just dominate everything.

CAKochenash
05-30-2010, 11:22 AM
http://www.startpage.com/

Matt Collins
05-30-2010, 12:48 PM
I, for one, welcome our overlords! Their workplace is very libertarian, I think! (not the workers, but the workplace itself as they allow their workers to work on individual projects during company time).


I believe the guy says that this was the most participation at Google EVER for a Presidential Candidate:
YouTube - Candidates@Google: Ron Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg)

BlackTerrel
05-30-2010, 01:23 PM
I believe the guy says that this was the most participation at Google EVER for a Presidential Candidate:
YouTube - Candidates@Google: Ron Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg)

Paul is much bigger in the tech industry (Facebook, Google, Apple, etc...) than pretty much any other industry. At least from personal experience. We can debate why that's so - but I've seen it a number of times.

Andrew-Austin
05-30-2010, 10:31 PM
Google is evil. They are the official search engine of the New World Order.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18540_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-google.html

Wow that site is hilarious.


http://www.cracked.com/article_18496_the-6-most-baffling-things-every-tv-ad-assumes-are-true.html

TheBlackPeterSchiff
05-30-2010, 10:38 PM
Wow that site is hilarious.


http://www.cracked.com/article_18496_the-6-most-baffling-things-every-tv-ad-assumes-are-true.html

Yeah, Cracked is my fav site on the net (besides RPF of course) you can spend days reading their articles....I've literally cried laughing at a few. They take sort fo a liberal slant of some but their mostly just plain ol funny as hell :D

Warrior_of_Freedom
05-30-2010, 10:44 PM
Google is like trying to become our overlord.
Someday, I swear, Google will be the government and run all our lives.

Google Prison

Reason
05-30-2010, 10:49 PM
YouTube - Introducing Google TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTpeYoqAhc)