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MRoCkEd
05-27-2010, 09:11 AM
http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/CityofCleveland/Home/Government/MayorsOffice/tv20/watch

angelatc
05-27-2010, 09:15 AM
Sweet!

angelatc
05-27-2010, 09:19 AM
"I'm not thin skinned, but you've taken some cheap shots. Calling us a wasteland..." LOL

angelatc
05-27-2010, 09:21 AM
"The simplicity of your solutions does not help me...." Well, that's because you're a politician.

JVParkour
05-27-2010, 09:23 AM
That guy is a retard. He should be fired...

angelatc
05-27-2010, 09:24 AM
People have a right to cheap golf?

Drew is itching to go there...

Jeremy
05-27-2010, 09:24 AM
That guy says everyone has the right to a golf course.

TonySutton
05-27-2010, 09:27 AM
I am just 30 miles west of Cleveland, wasteland is a fair description of some areas. Corruption and connections are the only ways to make the gears turn. It is very sad.

JVParkour
05-27-2010, 09:29 AM
Lol, carey would destroy the west side market.

angelatc
05-27-2010, 09:32 AM
Bowling! LOL!!! That is such a Cleveland thing - people who haven't been there won't get it. But in Cleveland, people are just as likely to ask "Where do you bowl?" as they are "Where do you work?"

angelatc
05-27-2010, 09:37 AM
He can't formulate a decent response to the issues they discussed, so he'll bring up a whole bunch more.

And he admits that golf isn't really all that important.

Jeremy
05-27-2010, 09:37 AM
"we need to keep big government because...

...

CHANGE!"

MRoCkEd
05-27-2010, 09:38 AM
This guy is a major central planner.

JVParkour
05-27-2010, 09:39 AM
He basically thinks the government must control everything. Including recreation and markets. Pitiful.

JVParkour
05-27-2010, 09:40 AM
Lol, they just gave him rootbeer, and he said he just drinks water. FAIL.

Fredom101
05-27-2010, 09:46 AM
Watching...too bad they are playing nice. The government bureaucrats are winning this debate. Why? Because Carey & Gillespie are sticking with arguments from effect. We could argue till the cows come home on "What is government's role?" but we should rather pose questions like "how does government accomplish its goals?"

So if Carey were to respond to that one slick guy (city council member?) with "How do you pay for those basketball courts?" Then we're getting somewhere. The answer would be "Taxes!" Then he could have asked how taxes are implemented, and used the "against me" argument and exposed that city guy for being a violent individual with violent solutions to society's problems.

angelatc
05-27-2010, 10:15 AM
Watching...too bad they are playing nice. The government bureaucrats are winning this debate. Why? Because Carey & Gillespie are sticking with arguments from effect. We could argue till the cows come home on "What is government's role?" but we should rather pose questions like "how does government accomplish its goals?"

Because the LP has been so absolutely unsuccessful in accomplishing their goals, I strongly support the concept of conversation that begins by being mutually respectful.

Ekrub
05-27-2010, 10:34 AM
I really respect Drew for going out and getting things done.

Jeremy
05-27-2010, 10:39 AM
the last half of it was much better than the first imo