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anaconda
05-22-2010, 01:43 PM
It occurred to me recently that, not only might the controversies give Rand a positive bump in his KY polling numbers (and possibly other polling numbers but we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, here...)

AND

that if this were the case that this would be a huge story in itself..

Fozz
05-22-2010, 01:45 PM
Unfortunately, I think his numbers are going down.

silverhandorder
05-22-2010, 01:46 PM
In the ling term it will be a blow out like the one we saw with Grayson.

AuH20
05-22-2010, 01:47 PM
There is going to be a slight erosion. Probably 3 to 5 points. He'll still be up comfortably though.

Fozz
05-22-2010, 01:47 PM
There are so many liberals who think Rand Paul is nearly toast.

MRoCkEd
05-22-2010, 01:48 PM
There are so many liberals who think Rand Paul is nearly toast.
I'm guessing they aren't from Kentucky, or they aren't exactly objective.

AuH20
05-22-2010, 01:49 PM
There are so many liberals who think Rand Paul is nearly toast.

Because they have perfected these scorched earth tactics. It's not going to work this time however.

Epic
05-22-2010, 01:49 PM
The 25 point poll was possibly too high to start with. So even without the controversy, I would see them going down.

I'd say next Rasmussen finds him 20 points up, or PPP finds him 12-15 up.

anaconda
05-22-2010, 01:49 PM
Unfortunately, I think his numbers are going down.


Have you seen any polls since the Maddow interview? Link? Just curious. thanks.

Fozz
05-22-2010, 01:49 PM
I'm guessing they aren't from Kentucky, or they aren't exactly objective.

I'm not sure how well Kentuckians will take his remarks on BP.

Flash
05-22-2010, 01:50 PM
Hard to say.. we don't even know if the Rasmussen poll was all that accurate.

AuH20
05-22-2010, 01:50 PM
I'm not sure how well Kentuckians will take his remarks on BP.

Hopefully, they can understand what he was saying. It wasn't an endorsement of BP.

Fozz
05-22-2010, 01:54 PM
Hopefully, they can understand what he was saying. It wasn't an endorsement of BP.

I'm sure the liberal media, including the Courier Journal, will twist it as a defense of BP.

Michigan11
05-22-2010, 01:58 PM
Rand Paul is a damn Rock Star around the country now! He ain't going anywhere but to the US Senate.

silverhandorder
05-22-2010, 02:01 PM
I'm sure the liberal media, including the Courier Journal, will twist it as a defense of BP.

I am sure there is a ton more grassroots around Rand then Conway. Plus MSNBC already doing retractions left and right. Rand is untouchable in the long run.

BamaFanNKy
05-22-2010, 02:04 PM
Have you seen any polls since the Maddow interview? Link? Just curious. thanks.

Yes. The one with Rand up 25% was done on Maddow day.

AuH20
05-22-2010, 02:07 PM
I'm sure the liberal media, including the Courier Journal, will twist it as a defense of BP.

What's really interesting is that they may play their hand too soon and hit Rand with the so-called conspiracy/Alex Jones fodder, that basically cancels out any insinuation that he's a corporate whore. And given what I've been reading that seems to be the next phase of attack. For example take this excerpt:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/paul_has_been_guest_of_conspiracy_theorist_shock_j .php?ref=mp


During a July 23, 2009 show, Jones, decrying the Wall Street bailout, asked Paul, "This isn't really socialism....Isn't this more akin to fascism?" Paul replied, "You're exactly right." Later on the show, while Jones was denouncing cap-and-trade legislation (which he says could lead to "toilet paper taxes") and calling for investigating Al Gore, Paul noted that should the climate bill become law, "we will have an army of armed EPA agents--thousands of them."


The left could very well get so far ahead of themselves in this planned escalation, that Rand Paul's supposed fringe viewpoints could actually help him. They risk turning him into a folk hero of sorts if they aggressively pursue this route, like I fully expect them to.

fletcher
05-22-2010, 02:21 PM
There are so many liberals who think Rand Paul is nearly toast.

These are the same people that think government control of every aspect of your life is a good thing. They're not too bright. His poll numbers were so good that it is nearly impossible to get any better, so they'll probably just stay in that area. These attacks certainly won't hurt him in the long run.

anaconda
05-22-2010, 02:40 PM
Yes. The one with Rand up 25% was done on Maddow day.

Yes, but before the interview was broadcast, I believe..

0zzy
05-22-2010, 02:43 PM
Yes, but before the interview was broadcast, I believe..

indeed!~

SWATH
05-22-2010, 03:10 PM
I talked to a Grayson supporter today who said came out to now support Rand after what the media did to him. It fired him up he said.

sailingaway
05-22-2010, 03:33 PM
There are so many liberals who think Rand Paul is nearly toast.

But they would never have voted for him.

Watching polls closely over the last year, on a variety of subjects, I have decided that the only people more out of touch with normal society than Washington DC is Democrats who believe in Washington DC. Remember THEY are collectivist. they think 'he has a friend who is a jerk' is enough to keep someone from being elected.

I don't know if he will get a hit from this or not, in Kentucky. However, it isn't what the race is about, and is so patently off topic, I don't think it will be Kentucky's reason for voting in November.

However, I do think they got a head start on poisoning the well for 2016 if he runs for President. This tripe will circulate until then.

ScotTX
05-22-2010, 04:02 PM
Rand Paul is a damn Rock Star around the country now! He ain't going anywhere but to the US Senate.

And then the White House!

Matt Collins
05-22-2010, 05:08 PM
Rand will win the race as long as he fights for it; it's guaranteed!

Flash
05-23-2010, 08:44 AM
You know I couldn't imagine how this controversy will help Rand Paul. Would independents and Republicans in KY really see it as the liberal media is out to get Rand? Will they see through the media's bias?

sailingaway
05-23-2010, 08:47 AM
I talked to a Grayson supporter today who said came out to now support Rand after what the media did to him. It fired him up he said.

Oh, it has unified the GOP no question. 'Real' GOP who might have been comfortable saying Rand 'is no real Republican' like Grayson so they'll vote for 'the other guy', after seeing him devoured by the liberal media on a witch hunt couldn't hold their heads up and say they'd vote for Conway, now.

fc2008
05-23-2010, 09:00 AM
I think Rand will lose about 15 points and fund raising is going to dry up. The campaign really stepped in a giant turd.

JohnEngland
05-23-2010, 09:05 AM
I think in the short term the polls will tighten. However, as people decide who they want to vote for and take the time to look into the candidates' positions and beliefs, Rand will come through comfortably.

JohnEngland
05-23-2010, 09:07 AM
I think Rand will lose about 15 points and fund raising is going to dry up. The campaign really stepped in a giant turd.

You've been a member for over three years and have only written four comments, one of which was this? Bit gloomy and negative today, are we? :rolleyes:

Flash
05-23-2010, 09:14 AM
Fund raising isn't drying up, its going at a stead rate (source: RandPaulGraphs.com)

sailingaway
05-23-2010, 09:16 AM
i think rand will lose about 15 points and fund raising is going to dry up. The campaign really stepped in a giant turd.

lol!

koob
05-23-2010, 09:49 AM
I'm just glad that if this did have to happen it happened now. Hopefully by November this is all ancient history.

rich34
05-23-2010, 10:09 AM
I've said it once and I'll say it again. This is appalachia folks! I'm not in KY, but WV, however we're very similar. More registrered democrats but tend to vote republican at the national level, well except for our two entrenched senators and even their races have been closer than usual the last couple times, but we went R for president the last 3 times. This civil rights issue is not going to hurt Rand at all. Believe me, there are a lot of bluedog democrats in both states and they don't go for that race baiting BS! Hell just look where Obama sufferened his worst two defeats in the primary to Hillary. KY and WV.. Of course the MSM blew it off as "Racist white appalachia." Rand will be fine.

RonPaulFanInGA
05-23-2010, 10:20 AM
The number of times somebody here swore this or that would hurt Rand Paul and the next poll showed it didn't is pretty staggering.

itshappening
05-23-2010, 10:52 AM
the media dont understand Kentucky I think Rand knows what he's doing