Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq by today

[fletcher]

Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today, yet there are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.

Dailymotion - Obama firm on Iraq withdrawal - a News & Politics video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x652h4_obama-firm-on-iraq-withdrawal_news)

I'm reminded of Ron Paul's words

"What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq?"

YouTube - Ron Paul's What If ? Remastered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM#t=02m20s)

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

no one cares, all the people who voted for him are blaming problems on mexicans who get paid 4 dollars an hour, and focused on Rand Paul being a teabagger racist who hates black people and thinks they shouldn't be allowed into restauraunts

[libertythor]

Spread the news in Digg!

digg.com/politics/Obama_said_that_he_would_have_all_troops_out_of_Ir aq_TODAY

Remove the space between the r and the a in Iraq.

[Anti Federalist]

no one cares, all the people who voted for him are blaming problems on mexicans who get paid 4 dollars an hour, and focused on Rand Paul being a teabagger racist who hates black people and thinks they shouldn't be allowed into restauraunts

Yeah, no kidding.

Hundreds of thousands of people showed up in protest at the anniversary each year of the start of the Iraq war.

This year, 2010, about 8000 showed up.

Miserable, leftist, hypocritical, socialist, sluts: all along, as I, and many other suspected, they had no real principled argument against the war, they just wanted a handy club to beat W over the head with.

Once their guy was in, the crickets came out.

Fuck them, they are just as bad as the neocons, maybe worse.:mad:

And I used to take offense at the "teabagger" label, but as another RPF member noted (sorry, can't remember who it was) maybe it is time to embrace it, since in the vulgar vernacular that the statists are using it means "suck my balls".

[Anti Federalist]

Obama said he have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today, yet their are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.

Nice job Fletcher, thanks for posting this.

[jkr]

...now where did he leave that "mission accomplished" banner at?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Yeah, no kidding.

Hundreds of thousands of people showed up in protest at the anniversary each year of the start of the Iraq war.

This year, 2010, about 8000 showed up.

Miserable, leftist, hypocritical, socialist, sluts: all along, as I, and many other suspected, they had no real principled argument against the war, they just wanted a handy club to beat W over the head with.

Once their guy was in, the crickets came out.

Fuck them, they are just as bad as the neocons, maybe worse.:mad:

And I used to take offense at the "teabagger" label, but as another RPF member noted (sorry, can't remember who it was) maybe it is time to embrace it, since in the vulgar vernacular that the statists are using it means "suck my balls".

Obama just got into office, give him another 3 years, it's too early to judge. Teabagger.

(I propose we call them soft stuffers; if you don't know what that means, look it up)

[Anti Federalist]

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[Anti Federalist]

Gonna keep this at the top for a while if I can.

[Brian4Liberty]

no one cares, all the people who voted for him are blaming problems on mexicans who get paid 4 dollars an hour

:confused:

[Imaginos]

And silence from the left is deafening.

[Pennsylvania]

keepin it bumped. peeps gotta know

[.Tom]

Where are your war protesters now Obama!?

Oh yeah, I forgot, war is okay when you do it.

I'm so sick of these "liberal" hypocrites. They just hated Bush, and rightly so, but not for any principled reason. Just as bad as the neocons.

Shit, this country is so fucked.

[Vessol]

New boss, same as the old boss.

[Anti Federalist]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/5/21/129189293788293343.jpg

[MsDoodahs]

BO is a liar.

[Anti Federalist]

New boss, same as the old boss.

Too fuckin' right.:mad:

YouTube - Wont Get Fooled Again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE)

[Cowlesy]

He never gave a shit about the troops. His advisers probably view them as potential republican voters or "right wing extremists," so in their view, the longer they're over there, the better.

Where's the anti-war movement now, huh?

As John Derbyshire says, "We are Doomed."

[heavenlyboy34]

lolz...I was rubbing this in the faces of some left-libs I know earlier. :) :cool:

[BuddyRey]

Spread the news in Digg!

digg.com/politics/Obama_said_that_he_would_have_all_troops_out_of_Ir aq_TODAY

Remove the space between the r and the a in Iraq.

+1!

[jbuttell]

Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today, yet there are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.


He didn't really tell a lie did he? I mean, he said the troops would be pulled out of iraq but conveniently remained ambiguous by stating that some portion be left behind for support and to track down remaining terrorists. Perhaps by some he meant 98,000? :X

[Fox McCloud]

don't use the remastered one--use this one:

YouTube - What If (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ur9Pe42jCM&fmt=22)

=p

[silentshout]

It's very sad, but to be expected.

[Pennsylvania]

bump for peace

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

Well, since BO took office, approx. 178 additional Americans have lost their lives in operations in Iraq. God knows how many civilians. In that same timespan, 451 additional Americans have lost their lives in Afghanistan. We don't know how many civilians. At LEAST 1 American lost their life in Pakistan. At least 700 innocent Pakistani civilians have lost their lives. Some 1200 people (PEOPLE) have been killed under orders from our 'Nobel Peace Prize' Shitbag-in-Chief.

[Dr.3D]

Well, since BO took office, approx. 178 additional Americans have lost their lives in operations in Iraq. God knows how many civilians. In that same timespan, 451 additional Americans have lost their lives in Afghanistan. We don't know how many civilians. At LEAST 1 American lost their life in Pakistan. At least 700 innocent Pakistani civilians have lost their lives. Some 1200 people (PEOPLE) have been killed under orders from our 'Nobel Peace Prize' Shitbag-in-Chief.

Maybe they have renamed it the "Nobel Piece Prize."

[amy31416]

But, but, but BUSH started it! It's the evil Republicans! We're helpless in the face of their evil! Obama wants to do the right thing, but there'd be chaos if he pulled out! And, and, he's playing chess and we're too stupid to understand the game.....ARGHMF&&$$^&*I LOVE HIM SO MUCH! FAAAAAAACK! Michelle Obama is the epitome of grace and is Jackie O and Princess Diana all in one beautiful package! Their kids are adorable, OMFG, so cute! Ignore everything else!

P.S. Libertarians suck and are all racists!

P.P.S. Still hire Blackwater mercenaries? YES WE CAN!

(Shit, we're all screwed.)

[puppetmaster]

Well, since BO took office, approx. 178 additional Americans have lost their lives in operations in Iraq. God knows how many civilians. In that same timespan, 451 additional Americans have lost their lives in Afghanistan. We don't know how many civilians. At LEAST 1 American lost their life in Pakistan. At least 700 innocent Pakistani civilians have lost their lives. Some 1200 people (PEOPLE) have been killed under orders from our 'Nobel Peace Prize' Shitbag-in-Chief.

Shitbag-in-chief....love it

[Anti Federalist]

bump

[puppetmaster]

Looks like the media has forgotten shitbag-in-chiefs election lies also......

[Agent CSL]

We knew this would happen. :)

[Che]

no, i still have faith in him. He will sign an excutive order by the end of the today.

[Anti Federalist]

no, i still have faith in him. He will sign an excutive order by the end of the today.

The thread is a day old.

He would have had to do it by the end of yesterday.

;)

[dannno]

Did the MSM report on this by any chance :confused:

[Zippyjuan]

He did add that the withdrawl would depend on the situation there and that "we will be as careful about getting out as we were wreckless going in."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jul/10/baracks-iraq-flip-flop-nope/

SUMMARY: Opponents charge Barack Obama with changing position on Iraq. We cull through the record and find he has been consistent in urging an orderly, efficient withdrawal with no permanent bases.
The day before the Fourth of July weekend, Barack Obama talked about the likelihood that he will soon travel to Iraq and what it means for his foreign policy.

"I've always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability. That assessment has not changed," he said. "And when I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I'm sure I'll have more information and will continue to refine my policies."

He has started to remove forces from Iraq- though not at the rate he hoped for in 2008.


"I intend to end this war," Obama said. "My first day in office I will bring the joint chiefs of staff in, and I will give them a new mission. And that is to end this war. Responsibly, deliberately, but decisively. And I have seen no information that contradicts the notion that we can bring our troops out safely at a pace of one to two brigades per month. And again, that pace translates into having our combat troops out in 16 months' time."

[Inflation]

Messiah Fail!

http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/obama-messiah.jpg

http://thecompetentconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ObaMessiah.jpg

http://obamaforwards.com/content/binary/obama_fail.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

Did the MSM report on this by any chance :confused:

I searched the term and got zero MSM hits.

You get returns like this thread and blogs, stuff like that but no major news outlets.

The MSM is too busy running the racist meme and reporting on the end of the world in the GoM.

[torchbearer]

red state should at least be blogging about it, but then again, they support the troops staying overseas indefinitely.

[ItsTime]

to the top

[Anti Federalist]

again

[puppetmaster]

again

wonder if the beckster will bring it up......:rolleyes:

[BetaMale]

Thanks for this thread. Posted on my facebook and twitter accounts. Haha, my lib friends have pretty much all ignored me. The truth can be so inconvenient sometimes....

[Anti Federalist]

Bump

[freshjiva]

Can someone post a link to where you can see official numbers of how many troops we have, by country, around the world?

[Anti Federalist]

Can someone post a link to where you can see official numbers of how many troops we have, by country, around the world?

I'd cut and paste it, but it wouldn't format properly

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/deploy.htm

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.armscontrolcenter.org/images/charts/fy10_topline_chart3.JPG

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[No1ButPaul08]

Thanks AF for bumping this hadn't seen this yet.

[No1ButPaul08]

Ron Paul was right....again. 5:40 in

YouTube - Ron Paul: Obama won't pull troops out of Iraq - Clickon link in detail info on right side (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxuvnvHPbQc)

[Anti Federalist]

Ron Paul was right....again. 5:40 in

YouTube - Ron Paul: Obama won't pull troops out of Iraq - Clickon link in detail info on right side (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxuvnvHPbQc)

And thanks for posting that ^^, yes he is, right again.

[Umbro2914]

I'd cut and paste it, but it wouldn't format properly

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/deploy.htm

2006 Numbers...

[jkr]

let's start a "+"ovement lik old BADman did

+ 274 days since barry soetoro said "we'd be out of iraq (n)


test the adding skills of the populous- now that was a fun game

[Vessol]

Ron Paul was right....again. 5:40 in

YouTube - Ron Paul: Obama won't pull troops out of Iraq - Clickon link in detail info on right side (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxuvnvHPbQc)

/sigh, Rachel Maddow you come off as on our side on this and then look at you now..

[Anti Federalist]

2006 Numbers...

2006-2007 seem to be the latest available.

If you can find more recent, post 'em.

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.nonviolenceworks.com/usmilitaryglobal.pdf

[puppetmaster]

government = failure

wish people would wake up and get pissed...

[No1ButPaul08]

Iraq: Key figures since the war began

By The Associated Press (AP) – 8 hours ago


U.S. TROOP LEVELS:
October 2007: 170,000 at peak of troop buildup.
May 31, 2010: 89,000.

[freshjiva]

/sigh, Rachel Maddow you come off as on our side on this and then look at you now..

Rachel Maddow still has respect for Ron Paul because he's so honest and consistent.

She also generally is supportive of his non-interventionist foreign policy, his war against the Fed, ending Corporatism in Washington, and getting government out of our personal lives with drugs and same-sex marriage.

This is why I feel like the Liberty movement can build bridges with the Left much better than we can with what has become of the Right...

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[No1ButPaul08]

YouTube - Ron Paul Correctly Predicts Obama Lie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpw1KmXdCk8)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=247920

[Liberty Star]

Has anyone in MSM asked him about this?

If anyone from team Obama surfing this forum, would he/she care to explain?

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[nandnor]

nvm

[amonasro]

someone should ask this on democraticunderground, the online "liberal" community

I'm sure you'd get mostly crickets... but anyone who thinks they're up to the challenge would just give some bull argument that he's had to re-evaluate the situation and things in Afghanistan have escalated... blah blah blah.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm sure you'd get mostly crickets... but anyone who thinks they're up to the challenge would just give some bull argument that he's had to re-evaluate the situation and things in Afghanistan have escalated... blah blah blah.

Yup. :mad:

[peacepotpaul]

Please bookmark

www.ObamaBodyCount.org

[phill4paul]

Last I searched the numbers were 92,000 in Iraq and 94,000 in Afghanistan. Total combined forces equal or exceed the total population of Nashville, TN. Or Ft. Lauderdale FL. Or Tallahasee, FL. Or Fayetteville NC. Or Birmingham AL. Or Salt Lake City. UT.

[Fox McCloud]

He did add that the withdrawl would depend on the situation there and that "we will be as careful about getting out as we were wreckless going in."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jul/10/baracks-iraq-flip-flop-nope/

He has started to remove forces from Iraq- though not at the rate he hoped for in 2008.

at the very least, however, it's a very wishy-washy position that's subject to just about any whim, under the sun and open to justification for building a permanent base there, afterall or keeping more troops there than "originally planned".

Time will tell, but I'm willing to bet Iraq will just be another South Korea.

[Anti Federalist]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/5/21/129189293788293343.jpg

Is not the same as:


He did add that the withdrawl would depend on the situation there and that "we will be as careful about getting out as we were wreckless going in."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jul/10/baracks-iraq-flip-flop-nope/

He has started to remove forces from Iraq- though not at the rate he hoped for in 2008.

So, in the two years since that story was published (10 July 2008) claiming that accusations of Obama's plan to remove troop was a lie, we have to assume that the commanders on the ground have been consulted and there will be no withdrawal since there are still 100,000 or more still in Iraq after another 24 months?

"We marched right in, we can march right out again" - Ron Paul.

[Danke]

Is not the same as:



So, in the two years since that story was published (10 July 2008) claiming that accusations of Obama's plan to remove troop was a lie, we have to assume that the commanders on the ground have been consulted and there will be no withdrawal since there are still 100,000 or more still in Iraq after another 24 months?

"We marched right in, we can march right out again" - Ron Paul.

Ahh, if you haven't noticed, Zippy is pretty much an apologist for anything the government does.

[Anti Federalist]

Ahh, if you haven't noticed, Zippy is pretty much an apologist for anything the government does.

Yeah, I noticed that, bump.

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[Anti Federalist]

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[georgiaboy]

I remember when O began insinuating that yeah, we'd be out of Iraq, but we'd be moving more agressively into Afganistan. from the left hand to the right hand. but not really. superfail.

And to think that so many voted for him "cause he's gonna end this war". nauseating.

And just one more reason why I still love this place, and Ron Paul, and will continue this revolution.

"Just come home" -- Ron Paul

[Anti Federalist]

And just one more reason why I still love this place, and Ron Paul, and will continue this revolution.

"Just come home" -- Ron Paul

That actually choked me up. Amen, brother.

"We marched right in, we can march right out again" - Ron Paul

[libertybrewcity]

this should go viral! spread it around.

[georgiaboy]

//approaching east coast rush hour bump//

[John Taylor]

So Obama is a lying warmonger. I can't say I'm surprised.

[silentshout]

I remember when O began insinuating that yeah, we'd be out of Iraq, but we'd be moving more agressively into Afganistan. from the left hand to the right hand. but not really. superfail.

And to think that so many voted for him "cause he's gonna end this war". nauseating.

And just one more reason why I still love this place, and Ron Paul, and will continue this revolution.

"Just come home" -- Ron Paul

Yep..Obama ran on this during the primaries, but no one seemed to care at all.

[KramerDSP]

Bumping again. I am so sick of the Wars.

[libertybrewcity]

this should be front page news for the rest of the year. any guesses when the troops will actually be fully pulled out?

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[jmdrake]

But, but, but BUSH started it! It's the evil Republicans! We're helpless in the face of their evil! Obama wants to do the right thing, but there'd be chaos if he pulled out! And, and, he's playing chess and we're too stupid to understand the game.....ARGHMF&&$$^&*I LOVE HIM SO MUCH! FAAAAAAACK! Michelle Obama is the epitome of grace and is Jackie O and Princess Diana all in one beautiful package! Their kids are adorable, OMFG, so cute! Ignore everything else!

P.S. Libertarians suck and are all racists!

P.P.S. Still hire Blackwater mercenaries? YES WE CAN!

(Shit, we're all screwed.)

Epic post!

Obama refused to promise to have the troops out by 2013 when he was asked that question by Tim Russert. But then he lied and claimed he'd have them out in 16 months. I tried to explain this to my friends who are Obama supporters during the election, but most kept saying "He's promised to have the troops out in 16 months". It's like the neocons who kept clinging (and in some cases still keep) to the Bush lie that Saddam attacked us on 9/11. Folks just believe what they want to hear.

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[Anti Federalist]

Refuse to let this die "bump"

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[Pennsylvania]

I think we can all agree that this is a good thing since war stimulates the economy. Our economy has gone up, up, up since we invaded Iraq: high employment, falling prices, low home foreclosures...

Destruction = Production

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[eric_cartman]

i'm shocked that no one has made a high production quality youtube video exposing Obama as a liar and a fraud with regards to this Iraq war thing. the one with ron paul is pretty awesome, but that's like the only one out there. you would think there would be hundreds of various youtube videos that people would throw together.

there's got to be so many clips from various obama speeches where he talks about ending the Iraq war and where he criticizes bush and mccain and he just comes off looking such such a liar and a fraud and it would be so painfully obvious to everyone when they hear his old speeches and remember how they supported and believed this puppet.

[eOs]

i'm shocked that no one has made a high production quality youtube video exposing Obama as a liar and a fraud with regards to this Iraq war thing. the one with ron paul is pretty awesome, but that's like the only one out there. you would think there would be hundreds of various youtube videos that people would throw together.

there's got to be so many clips from various obama speeches where he talks about ending the Iraq war and where he criticizes bush and mccain and he just comes off looking such such a liar and a fraud and it would be so painfully obvious to everyone when they hear his old speeches and remember how they supported and believed this puppet.

That's a good idea, I've never made any youtube videos but I'm looking to get into it...lacking that technological vigor.

[phill4paul]

A "We're still in Iraq?" bump

[Anti Federalist]

A "We're still in Iraq?" bump

A "son of a bitch, so we are" bump

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[NH4RonPaul]

Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today, yet there are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.


And only fools believed him.... :confused:

[Zippyjuan]

There once was 170,000 troops there. No it isn't zero yet, but numbers are going down (and no, I do not expect them to go to zero either).
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2010-02-16-iraq-troops_N.htm

Posted 2/16/2010 9:07 PM


U.S. troops at lowest level in Iraq since 2003 invasion

BAGHDAD (AP) — The number of American troops in Iraq has dropped below 100,000 for the first time since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, the U.S. military said Tuesday.
The U.S. military plans on maintaining its current 98,000 troops on the ground in Iraq through the March 7 elections, said 1st Lt. Elizabeth Feste, an army spokeswoman in Baghdad.

That's in line with what Gen. Ray Odierno, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, has said would remain in place until at least 60 days after the election — a period during which he has said Iraq's new government will be at its most vulnerable.

President Obama has ordered all but 50,000 troops to leave Iraq by Aug. 31. The remainder will pull out by the end of next year under an Iraqi-American security agreement.

"The withdrawal pace remains on target for about 50,000 at the end of August 2010," Feste said.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is running for re-election on a campaign promise to make Iraq independent from U.S. military help. At a campaign rally Tuesday, he said the United States cannot expect to use Iraq as a launching pad for military action in the Middle East.

"We also confirm to all our neighboring and friendly countries that our constitution stipulates to not let the Iraqi territories be a springboard to harm security and interests of any state," al-Maliki told supporters at a Baghdad hotel.

During the height of the invasion in May 2003, about 150,000 U.S. forces were in Iraq. That number quickly dropped off by January 2004 as American troops moved from a combat to occupation role.

The troop levels ramped up in October 2007 as part of a troop surge ordered by President Bush. At the peak of the surge there were roughly 170,000 troops on the ground. Violence dropped dramatically as a result, but the Pentagon has warned that attacks may increase in the weeks leading to the election.

The Pentagon has said it is concerned that tension between the Shiite-dominated government and minority Sunnis could reignite sectarian violence that was tamped down by the troop surge.

Thousands of angry Sunnis protested Tuesday in Fallujah against comments attributed to a Shiite lawmaker who allegedly insulted a companion of the prophet Mohammed revered by Sunnis. The demonstrations in Fallujah west of Baghdad followed a similar protest of hundreds of Sunnis in Baghdad on Monday over the comments by lawmaker Bahaa al-Aaraji.

On Tuesday, a string of bombs targeted Iraqi army patrols and a police crime lab in Mosul northwest of Baghdad. In the first attack, a car bomb exploded outside a side entrance of the lab, said Lt. Col. Salim Ibrahim, an area commander. It killed two people.

Later, two roadside bombs struck separate Iraqi army patrols in eastern Mosul, killing two soldiers.

[cswake]

There once was 170,000 troops there. No it isn't zero yet, but numbers are going down.

Don't believe it. They've been replacing troops with "contractors". You need to sum troops with contractors to have an idea of the overall US presence there and in Afghanistan.
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/09/09/added-contractors-increasing-overall-us-force-size-in-iraq/

[Zippyjuan]

Are these contractors military forces- armed and fighting? Somebody building housing and schools is not the same as a soldier. What are the contractors doing?

[phill4paul]

There once was 170,000 troops there. No it isn't zero yet, but numbers are going down (and no, I do not expect them to go to zero either).
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2010-02-16-iraq-troops_N.htm

And your point? I guess it would be in the affirmative that a pledge to withdraw troops has been broken?

[Zippyjuan]

The date may not be correct but the intention to get troops out of Iraq still seems to be in effect and progress towards that has been made.

[phill4paul]

The date may not be correct but the intention to get troops out of Iraq still seems to be in effect and progress towards that has been made.

So if the date has not been met then the pledge has been broken.

[georgiaboy]

Bet Obama doesn't mention this during the speech tonight bump.

[KramerDSP]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_thRZs8DWIZY/SrF2eNbrBXI/AAAAAAAAAIU/3NPhEB0NRq8/s400/BushClintonBushObama.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

So if the date has not been met then the pledge has been broken.

Quiet, mundane!

Didn't the man tell you that it will happen, someday, maybe, possibly??!!

Who are you to question the great and powerful Oz?!

Jesus weeping Christ, let Ron or Rand break a pledge of this magnitude and see what the reaction would be.

And yes, the pledge was broken, 98,000 is NOT all, for fuck's sake.

[phill4paul]

And yes, the pledge was broken, 98,000 is NOT all, for fuck's sake.

But close. I mean when your dealing in 10+ of trillions in monetary debt a number like 98,000 in human life seems kinda small in comparison. Of course we mundanes shouldn't try to understand it. We are dealing with numbers here. Proles just don't understand. Do we?

[Anti Federalist]

But close. I mean when your dealing in 10+ of trillions in monetary debt a number like 98,000 in human life seems kinda small in comparison. Of course we mundanes shouldn't try to understand it. We are dealing with numbers here. Proles just don't understand. Do we?

No, much too complex for us mere mundanes.

Our leaders know what's best, they have information we don't.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::mad::mad::mad:

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[GunnyFreedom]

The date may not be correct but the intention to get troops out of Iraq still seems to be in effect and progress towards that has been made.

Replacing 98k underpaid regular military with 140k overpaid private mercenary contractors is progress..... how exactly?

[georgiaboy]

YouTube - Connecticut Halftime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuVe84MGTQI&feature=related)

[georgiaboy]

McChrystal firing bump.

[Anti Federalist]

Another day in the land of the free bump

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[georgiaboy]

Michael Steele Afghanistan bump.

[Anti Federalist]

Late morning bump

[georgiaboy]

Ann Coulter bump

[fisharmor]

Bum...... - OMG LEBRON IS LEAVING!@!@!!!

[Liberty Star]

but that was before the election.

[Imaginos]

At this point, people should ask themselves some serious questions.
What promise Obama kept on any significant issues?
In all honesty, I can't think of any single promise he kept.
The only promise that he kept was getting the dog for his daughters.
What about us?
What has he done for us?

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[surf]

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/?page=3
according to the above he has kept 119 promises - inluding No. 502: Get his daughters a puppy.... of course these lightweights won't even call his promise to remove troops a "promise broken"

[georgiaboy]

Hello, Mr. President, Welcome to Georgia bump.

[Anti Federalist]

bumpage

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[jmdrake]

What's crap is that Obama's going to keep 50,000 sitting ducks (excuse me "non combat trainers and advisers) in Iraq and act like he's actually done something. What he won't tell anyone is that when Bush was still president the Iraqi government demanded troops be reduced to this level anyway under the "status of forces agreement". And of course the dumbed down right will think that Obama has "caved in" which will make the dumbed down left think that Obama has "done something good" since the dumbed down right is complaining.

[georgiaboy]

Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk bump.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=258951

[georgiaboy]

Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today, yet there are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.

Dailymotion - Obama firm on Iraq withdrawal - a News & Politics video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x652h4_obama-firm-on-iraq-withdrawal_news)

I'm reminded of Ron Paul's words

"What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq?"

YouTube - Ron Paul's What If ? Remastered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM#t=02m20s)

repeating the OP for ease of reading bump.

[freshjiva]

repeating the OP for ease of reading bump.

Ron Paul was right, once again. Obama has no real sense of urgency in leaving Iraq.

[georgiaboy]

anyone know the over/under on the troop count lately? guessing over 50K still bump

[georgiaboy]

and yes, we're still over there. i can see a yellow ribbon out my window. bump.

[oyarde]

anyone know the over/under on the troop count lately? guessing over 50K still bump

I would say you are close , then there are civilians as well , more than military .

[Anti Federalist]

Troops will stay to at least 2014 in Afghanistan, fuming rage, bump.

[Akus]

...now where did he leave that "mission accomplished" banner at?

It's in some Crawford garage somewhere.....

Or may be in one of Highland Park's houses.

[Bruno]

It's good to have all of troops safely back home! Oh, wait... :(

[Carson]

Maybe he thought he would be running the country instead of being a Globalist shill.

[ClayTrainor]

YouTube - The Real GOP - Featuring Adam Kokesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F48P5D_-lNQ)

[georgiaboy]

Iraq seeking $1B damages, and we're still there, bump.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?280072-Baghdad-Iraq-Wants-U.S.-to-Pay-1-Billion-For-Damage-to-City&highlight=iraq+damages

[heavenlyboy34]

tragedy of military fascism and occupation, not to mention regime lies and hypocrisy bump (thanks for the thread, y'all)

[Anti Federalist]

Iraq seeking $1B damages, and we're still there, bump.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?280072-Baghdad-Iraq-Wants-U.S.-to-Pay-1-Billion-For-Damage-to-City&highlight=iraq+damages

Only a billion?

*face palm*

Bump.

[thehighwaymanq]

Great post! Thank you!

[thehighwaymanq]

Do we have a credible source number on how many troops are still there?

[civusamericanus]

Do we have a credible source number on how many troops are still there?

Here's a story which puts our troops and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan around 400K
htxp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/22/AR2011022205739_2.html


By the end of the 2010 budget year, there were nearly 200,000 contractor employees working in Afghanistan and Iraq compared to 202,100 U.S. military personnel, according to the commission.

[wildfirepower]

Here's a story which puts our troops and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan around 400K

How many American people are there in this world? Is it 600 million Americans?

[Bruno]

How many American people are there in this world? Is it 600 million Americans?

310,871,138

World 6,901,661,981


http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

[georgiaboy]

Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today [5/21/2010], yet there are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.

Dailymotion - Obama firm on Iraq withdrawal - a News & Politics video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x652h4_obama-firm-on-iraq-withdrawal_news)

I'm reminded of Ron Paul's words

"What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq?"

YouTube - Ron Paul's What If ? Remastered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM#t=02m20s)

thinking about Libya now, too, Mr. President?

[HOLLYWOOD]

You guys need to "Lawyer Up"... Barry said Combat Troops and Combat Brigades... Not Training Troops or Green Zone Troops, or Oil Fields Troops, or Embassy Troops, or Training Troops/Forces or even a shit load of hired mercenaries.

These Slimeball Establishment Hacks will use Semantics Sunrise to Sunset and in the middle of the night.

Jeff Jefferies is the current ambassador to Iraq and his comments to the Senate Armed Services committee spell it out plainly. We are not leaving Iraq now, or by the end of 2011. The country is in term oil and cannot survive without the US presence. It is recommend to stay for a decade... and when asked about having Iraq pay for the war debt or current costs, "Not one cent will be going to the US expenses incurred. The Iraqis need to rebuild their infrastructure. Amb. Jefferies went on to advise the committee that Iraqi oil production could hit 8-9 million barrels a day and maybe someday even exceed the Saudi's oil production.

Do the math at $100/barrel... who wins? We The People are being played like a Grand Piano.

[Anti Federalist]

Gitmo trials restarting bump

[Anti Federalist]

Shock and Awe anniversary bump

[georgiaboy]

thinking about Libya now, too, Mr. President?

this is a first. me quoting myself. forgot I had written this, in this very thread.

BUMP:mad:

[georgiaboy]

Mr. President,
Mr. Scheuer thinks you're boxing yourself into a corner that will force you to put ground troops in Libya, although you've gone on record to say you aren't doing this. Bump.

Oh, and reports are counting civilian deaths in Libya into the dozens due to your humanitarian bombing of their land.

[amy31416]

this is a first. me quoting myself. forgot I had written this, in this very thread.

BUMP:mad:

Wait...what made you think that? Good call.....

[Anti Federalist]

this is a first. me quoting myself. forgot I had written this, in this very thread.

BUMP:mad:

Perfect timing.

+rep

[georgiaboy]

Wait...what made you think that? Good call.....

A thread here of course ;)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?281060-Obama-on-now-talking-about-interviening-w-Libya

[georgiaboy]

Was it just me, or did I just hear SYRIA being mentioned this morning on CSPAN -- no, no, no dear God, say it isn't so. End the madness.

[Anti Federalist]

Awesome bump GB

[speciallyblend]

obama/bush 2012 /16 yr dynasty baby Bring Our Troops Home!!!! aka bump

[fisharmor]

This is the only link I can find immediately with any numbers in it.
http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsecurit1/a/IraqNumbers.htm

Troops in Iraq - Total 47,000 U.S. troops. All other nations have withdrawn their troops.

Emphasis mine.
So, we're crawling up on being a whole year late, and it's about half of what the number was on 5/21/2010.

[Liberty_Mike]

Excellent thread to the TS. I don't think I ever posted in this when it came out in 2010. But yes, it's been almost a year since the day Obama said we would have troops out of Iraq, yet we still have plenty over there! So about 28 months after being in office, Obama has yet to bring our troops home!

[fisharmor]

"Turns out we did it Ron Paul's way anyway, and didn't have to do the Iraq thing to begin with" bump.
That link still says 47,000.
18 days to the 1-year mark.

[georgiaboy]

yep, fa, you got it.

We got him, now let's just get the heck outta there bump.

[GunnyFreedom]

Someone should weave this thread up into a little "truth hand grenade," and lob it into clumps of internet Obama-ness during 2012.

Marque and Reprisal FTW!

Bring em home now!

[Anti Federalist]

Rep-i-ness abounds tonight.

This is like old times.

FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.


Someone should weave this thread up into a little "truth hand grenade," and lob it into clumps of internet Obama-ness during 2012.

Marque and Reprisal FTW!

Bring em home now!

[georgiaboy]

bump for one year anniversary impending - 05/21.
Just Come Home.


Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today, yet there are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.

Dailymotion - Obama firm on Iraq withdrawal - a News & Politics video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x652h4_obama-firm-on-iraq-withdrawal_news)

I'm reminded of Ron Paul's words

"What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq?"

YouTube - Ron Paul's What If ? Remastered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM#t=02m20s)

[georgiaboy]

one year, eleven days, and counting.

oh, and we're also past the 60 day limit for the president's war powers act authority to remain in Libya without congressional authorization, bump.

[Anti Federalist]

Largest KY National Guard deployment since WWII bump.

[libertygrl]

Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today, yet there are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.

Wonder how those idiots who gave him a noble "peace" prize feel about him now. :rolleyes:

[GunnyFreedom]

Wonder how those idiots who gave him a noble "peace" prize feel about him now. :rolleyes:

Iraq? Iraq who? Not sure if we ever met that guy before...

[Brian4Liberty]

Wonder how those idiots who gave him a noble "peace" prize feel about him now. :rolleyes:

They are pleased that he started a new war with Libya.

[Akus]

At this point, people should ask themselves some serious questions.
What promise Obama kept on any significant issues?
In all honesty, I can't think of any single promise he kept.
The only promise that he kept was getting the dog for his daughters.
What about us?
What has he done for us?

Obama declassified a lot of Bush's emails that he sealed. He did it immediately after taking office, like literally on 01/21/2009. I am no Obama nut hugger, but declassifying crooked crap that people with too much power send one another adds to govt transparency and that's good. Again, no Obama fan boy but credit must be given when one is due.

[Matthew Zak]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Sayzak/obamabushmission.jpg

[specialK]

Does anyone really listen to anything this cyborg says anymore?

[CanadaBoy]

]Obama declassified a lot of Bush's emails that he sealed. [/B]He did it immediately after taking office, like literally on 01/21/2009. I am no Obama nut hugger, but declassifying crooked crap that people with too much power send one another adds to govt transparency and that's good. Again, no Obama fan boy but credit must be given when one is due.

Was anyone thrown in jail as a result of the release?

[doodle]

In his defense, he is just a puppet.

[doodle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aryTu4ZlhZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aryTu4ZlhZc

[Anti Federalist]

5 soldiers dead in Iraq today bump.

[amy31416]

5 soldiers dead in Iraq today bump.

Yeah. But WHO started it, huh? If it weren't for you teabaggers getting Halliburton and Cheney rich, we wouldn't be in this mess! Which Obama is diligently trying to clean up! The repukelicans fucked up so much that Obama can't possibly get everything done just like that--it took them 8 years to destroy us, it'll take 8 years for Obama to clean it up!

GooooooooooooObama!









(....)

[Anti Federalist]

Yeah. But WHO started it, huh? If it weren't for you teabaggers getting Halliburton and Cheney rich, we wouldn't be in this mess! Which Obama is diligently trying to clean up! The repukelicans fucked up so much that Obama can't possibly get everything done just like that--it took them 8 years to destroy us, it'll take 8 years for Obama to clean it up!

GooooooooooooObama!









(....)

Yes...*sigh*

[doodle]

After fighting for his country, Iraq vet fights for a job
By Rob Hotakainen
McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON — Eric Smith calls himself one of the lucky ones, returning home from the war in Iraq in 2008 with two arms and two legs.

But his luck has yet to produce a full-time job. In the past year, the 26-year-old Baltimore veteran has found part-time work as a bartender — which paid $4 an hour, plus tips — and as a mail sorter, which paid $8 an hour. And when he was desperate enough for income, he volunteered to be a test patient in a drug study, which earned him $1,200 for a four-night hospital stay.

It's not exactly what Smith had in mind.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/06/2253755/after-fighting-for-his-country.html#ixzz1OWu4hDmt

[georgiaboy]

Now, Yemen.

Expecting Syria soon.

FYI - Osama Bin Laden is dead.

[georgiaboy]

Mr. President, thanks for explainerating to us your constitutional authority for your Libya invasion. bump.

[georgiaboy]

Debt ceiling is the topic of the last few weeks for the media, but the tattered yellow ribbon still waves within eyesight.

Oh, and Herman can just can't wait to pre-emptively strike Iran when he becomes bomber-in-chief.

Ron Paul moneybomb T-minus-7hrs 18mins, just come home, bump.

[GunnyFreedom]

Debt ceiling is the topic of the last few weeks for the media, but the tattered yellow ribbon still waves within eyesight.

Oh, and Herman can just can't wait to pre-emptively strike Iran when he becomes bomber-in-chief.

Ron Paul moneybomb T-minus-7hrs 18mins, just come home, bump.

Hear here!

[galantarie]

Does this look like the USA is leaving IRAQ ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGoRNz3yyXY&feature=player_detailpage

[georgiaboy]

Now, Yemen.

Expecting Syria soon.

FYI - Osama Bin Laden is dead.

beginning to feel like I'm channeling Dr. Paul's prescience. Syria, engaged.

[Jingles]

I wish the average Republican would get over their "WE NEED TO BOMB IRAN WHO CAN'T ATTACK US" fervor and realize that if they want a republican to win that he has to be antiwar. All the moral arguments aside you would think that they would understand the depth of our financial problems now and that we need to bring our troops home. We can't afford it.

[georgiaboy]

oh, so intervention in Libya is NATO-led, got it Mr. President, so the US gov't bears no responsibility there. But since we're the biggest part of NATO, we're required to do what NATO says, including spend, spend, spend, intervene, intervene, intervene. Anyways, this is good for our economy, right Mr. Krugman?

/biting sarc

[georgiaboy]

Been seeing some new yellow ribbons lately, bump.

[Anti Federalist]

Drone attacks, by executive order only, increasing in Yemen and Somalia, bump.

[georgiaboy]

The droning of the drone, drone, drone, drowns the darkness
Drowning in droning, from their thrones they drone
The droning drones on, a moaning undertone
Drone, drone, drone
bump

[moderate libertarian]

Still troops in Iraq and he escalated war in Afghanistan.


But if you look at US media, it does not appear we are still in mutiple wars.



More tragic news from Afghanistan as a NZ and a Plymouth soldiers are among multiple people dead.

NZ soldier shot in the head after a "anti terror" tip that was Afghan family feud



Inquiry call over soldier's death
VERNON SMALL TRACY WATKINS AND DANYA LEVY Last updated 11:26 30/09/2011

The Green Party is calling for a inquiry into the death of SAS soldier Leon Smith in the Afghanistan province of Wardak after repeated claims New Zealand troops were caught up in a domestic dispute.

Dam said the Governor told her troops operated without advice or intelligence from his administration, and said Afghanistan's Peace Council believed a rival family may have told authorities the family were insurgents.

Lance Corporal Leon Smith died on Wednesday after being shot in the head during a raid on a compound in Wardak, southwest of the Afghan capital Kabul.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5707798/Inquiry-call-over-soldiers-death



Plymouth soldier killed with 2 others in Afghan explosion
Attended wedding of sister in Aug.
By Taylor M. Miles
Globe Correspondent / September 30, 2011

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/09/30/plymouth_soldier_killed_with_2_others_in_afghan_ex plosion/

[georgiaboy]

gaddafi dead -- any reason we should still have presence in Lybia? Hmm? Hmm?

bump, past time to come home.

[Todd]

gaddafi dead -- any reason we should still have presence in Lybia? Hmm? Hmm?

bump, past time to come home.

good news...were leaving one place. :rolleyes:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/breaking-president-obama-will-announce-today-complete-drawdown-of-us-troops-in-iraq-to-zero-by-end-of-year/

[AbVag]

good news...were leaving one place. :rolleyes:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/breaking-president-obama-will-announce-today-complete-drawdown-of-us-troops-in-iraq-to-zero-by-end-of-year/

I guess we ran out of troops to invade Iran with.

[Kylie]

I was looking for this thread to come back up.

[moderate libertarian]

Obama lies again, falsely claims troops coming home from Iraq "as promised" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?324983-Obama-lies-again-falsely-claims-troops-coming-home-from-Iraq-quot-as-promised-quot)

[amy31416]

Obama lies again, falsely claims troops coming home from Iraq "as promised" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?324983-Obama-lies-again-falsely-claims-troops-coming-home-from-Iraq-quot-as-promised-quot)

Insistence on immunity implies knowledge of crimes that are/will be committed. It seems like the opposite of what one would want for a strong, reasonably ethical military--or does he think it's okay when a rogue platoon runs amok, rapes 14 year-old girls, shoots their family and lights the house on fire?

I wonder if he'll replace the troops with more Blackwater mercenaries this time too...

[torchbearer]

embassy the size of the vatican bump.

[georgiaboy]

Almost missed this one, bump. Really, really? This is absolutely not how I want my tax dollars spent.

Obama sending more troops to Australia (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/16/us-usa-australia-idUSTRE7AF0F220111116)


From next year, U.S. troops and aircraft will operate out of the tropical city of Darwin, only 820 kms (500 miles) from Indonesia, able to respond quickly to any humanitarian and security issues in Southeast Asia, where disputes over sovereignty of the South China Sea are causing rising tensions.

"It is appropriate for us to make sure...that the security architecture for the region is updated for the 21st century and this initiative is going to allow us to do that," Obama said.

[georgiaboy]

Obama said he would have all troops out of Iraq 16 months after taking office. That is today, yet there are still around 98,000 troops in Iraq.

Dailymotion - Obama firm on Iraq withdrawal - a News & Politics video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x652h4_obama-firm-on-iraq-withdrawal_news)

I'm reminded of Ron Paul's words

"What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq?"

YouTube - Ron Paul's What If ? Remastered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM#t=02m20s)

Hmm. Still troops in Iraq? I bet there are.

Syria on the watchlist.

Wardrums increasing for Iran?

[georgiaboy]

The majority of Americans do not want to go to war with Iran. Will Washington listen? Will GOP voters figure out which candidate supports this majority view? bump.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/15/cnn-poll-americans-favor-diplomacy-against-iran/

[georgiaboy]

wow, can't believe it's been this long since this thread was bumped.
FYI, the OP date was the date for when troops should've been out of Iraq - May 21, 2010.

bump for new surge into IRAQ by President Obama.

Campaign promise. Hope and Change.

[georgiaboy]

Still over there? Yep.

Still stirring stuff up in other places? Yep.

Just a li'l reminder, Mr. President.

[georgiaboy]

appropo reminder.

Nobel Peace Prize President

bump

[Cleaner44]

A few of today's headlines...

White House reportedly considers sending special forces troops to Iraq
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/17/white-house-reportedly-considers-sending-special-forces-troops-to-iraq/

Obama is sending 275 U.S. forces to Iraq for embassy security
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/16/iraq-insurgency/10569133/

Iraq crisis: Barack Obama sends in US troops as Isis insurgency worsens
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/17/barack-obama-sends-troops-back-to-iraq-as-crisis-worsens

[HOLLYWOOD]

JSOC never left Iraq


Joint Special Operations Command (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=JSOC)

https://duckduckgo.com/i/9dcadfe1.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Special_Operations_Command)
The Joint Special Operations Command is a component command of the United States Special Operations Command and is charged to study special operations requirements and techniques to ensure interoperability and equipment standardization, plan and conduct special operations exercises and training, develop joint special operations tactics and execute special operations missions worldwide. It was established in 1980 on recommendation of Col. Charlie Beckwith, in the aftermath of the failure of Operation Eagle Claw. It is located at Pope Field in North Carolina, USA.
https://duckduckgo.com/assets/icon_wikipedia.v101.pngMore at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Special_Operations_Command)

[georgiaboy]

wow, can't believe it's been this long since this thread was bumped.
FYI, the OP date was the date for when troops should've been out of Iraq - May 21, 2010.

bump for new surge into IRAQ by President Obama.

Campaign promise. Hope and Change.

More troops into Iraq bump, and a new base for "training the locals".

[enhanced_deficit]

More troops into Iraq bump, and a new base for "training the locals".

Can't put a price tag on freedom.

Neocon masters at WaPo wrote 27 editorials calling for/supporting Iraq invasion in 2003 timeframe.

[timosman]

bump

[bunklocoempire]

Proverbs 6:16-19

16 There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:

17 haughty eyes,

a lying tongue,

hands that shed innocent blood,

18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,

feet that are quick to rush into evil,

19 a false witness who pours out lies

and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.


Check,
check,
check,
check,
check,
check,
and check.

And supposedly, I have freedom of religion to not support this crap.

[enhanced_deficit]

To be fair, he also said before eleaction that marriage was a sacred union between a man and a woman.

[timosman]

To be fair, he also said before eleaction that marriage was a sacred union between a man and a woman.

Are you suggesting he fucked us?