Promontorium
05-20-2010, 06:57 PM
It's the end of the semester for me, so I haven't had any sleep in 3 days. I don't really remember when this election was, but I was watching. I was with you guys when we realized it would be a Randslide.
Now I come back and it's like Rand Paul's forum turned into, well... the rest of the angry internet.
Here's some of what I've read in the last half hour:
"He needs to be fired NOW." (on Benton)
every other thread I see is "Rand Paul flip flops"
"Yes he flip-flopped."
"Yes he flipp-flopped, but he had to."
"Worst move this campaign has made."
"It's probably the beginning of the end. I am thoroughly depressed."
"This is why purist positions can cost us elections."
Jesus Christ. What are you guys going to say if he wins?
[ronpaulforums.com]
OMFG IT'S THE APOCALYPSE!!! ALL IS LOST, WE ACTUALLY GOT EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR!!! I CAN'T STAND THE IDEA OF WINNING!!! [/ronpaulforums.com]
Where's the Revolution? Crying like girls.
Rand won. All that nay saying is irrelevant. It doesn't even matter if he wins the general, he proved he could be elected by Republicans specifically running against the establishment neocons that have controlled the party for decades.
But all we can talk about is one minor issue that even us as supporters can't agree on. It's one day. Rand took on some heavy reins when he declared himself the tea party, anti-establishment representative.
Don't you remember all of the last year has been devoted to trashing the Tea Parties? Rand certainly is going to face a barrage of attacks. But he's been playing the national circuit for awhile. his is deft to the game.
Meanwhile, did any of Grayson's lies hurt Rand in the election? Rand knows what I'm talking about, he bragged that all his ads were about him, and all his opponents ads were about him.
This is basically how Obama got elected. McCain played right into his hands. Obama just stood there and laughed at McCain's insults and mudslinging, meanwhile he made sure to say, often, that he wouldn't play dirty.
Every time Rand speaks people throw their wallets at him. They flip flop and join him. He is an upfront and honest speaker (like his father) with an obvious undertone of knowing the political game.
I can't even believe I'm on Rand Paul, Kentucky Republican Party nominee for senate's #1 forum and I feel everything positive I say will just be shot back at me. I shouldn't have to argue his "electability" here. This website is his electability.
We did it guys. We are the minority. But now it seems a majority of Rand's statesmen support him. That is success.
Often I wonder if much of the "support" isn't contingent on this "revolution" staying underground. Like the people that only like certain bands or clothing because other people don't. Yeah. I'm calling you poser libertarians. You say "purist" like it's a condemnation, as if having standards should be abolished. You can be a purist and still support the nonpurist. It is irrational to refuse to support anyone because they aren't exactly like you. Because no 2 humans agree 100% on everything. We all have our own standards. Let each other be. And I have no intention of alienating anyone (though sometimes I do) supporting Rand or any other candidate. Because, well, it's really simple.
There are many issues where we disagree with the majority. It is by design, that if you ever have any intention of winning, you must have the support of people who aren't in complete agreement with you. No candidate will ever win any election with a refusal to accept the support of people the candidate doesn't agree with. It is impossible. So get this cleared up now. Please don't let any one issue make or break your support.
Now I come back and it's like Rand Paul's forum turned into, well... the rest of the angry internet.
Here's some of what I've read in the last half hour:
"He needs to be fired NOW." (on Benton)
every other thread I see is "Rand Paul flip flops"
"Yes he flip-flopped."
"Yes he flipp-flopped, but he had to."
"Worst move this campaign has made."
"It's probably the beginning of the end. I am thoroughly depressed."
"This is why purist positions can cost us elections."
Jesus Christ. What are you guys going to say if he wins?
[ronpaulforums.com]
OMFG IT'S THE APOCALYPSE!!! ALL IS LOST, WE ACTUALLY GOT EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR!!! I CAN'T STAND THE IDEA OF WINNING!!! [/ronpaulforums.com]
Where's the Revolution? Crying like girls.
Rand won. All that nay saying is irrelevant. It doesn't even matter if he wins the general, he proved he could be elected by Republicans specifically running against the establishment neocons that have controlled the party for decades.
But all we can talk about is one minor issue that even us as supporters can't agree on. It's one day. Rand took on some heavy reins when he declared himself the tea party, anti-establishment representative.
Don't you remember all of the last year has been devoted to trashing the Tea Parties? Rand certainly is going to face a barrage of attacks. But he's been playing the national circuit for awhile. his is deft to the game.
Meanwhile, did any of Grayson's lies hurt Rand in the election? Rand knows what I'm talking about, he bragged that all his ads were about him, and all his opponents ads were about him.
This is basically how Obama got elected. McCain played right into his hands. Obama just stood there and laughed at McCain's insults and mudslinging, meanwhile he made sure to say, often, that he wouldn't play dirty.
Every time Rand speaks people throw their wallets at him. They flip flop and join him. He is an upfront and honest speaker (like his father) with an obvious undertone of knowing the political game.
I can't even believe I'm on Rand Paul, Kentucky Republican Party nominee for senate's #1 forum and I feel everything positive I say will just be shot back at me. I shouldn't have to argue his "electability" here. This website is his electability.
We did it guys. We are the minority. But now it seems a majority of Rand's statesmen support him. That is success.
Often I wonder if much of the "support" isn't contingent on this "revolution" staying underground. Like the people that only like certain bands or clothing because other people don't. Yeah. I'm calling you poser libertarians. You say "purist" like it's a condemnation, as if having standards should be abolished. You can be a purist and still support the nonpurist. It is irrational to refuse to support anyone because they aren't exactly like you. Because no 2 humans agree 100% on everything. We all have our own standards. Let each other be. And I have no intention of alienating anyone (though sometimes I do) supporting Rand or any other candidate. Because, well, it's really simple.
There are many issues where we disagree with the majority. It is by design, that if you ever have any intention of winning, you must have the support of people who aren't in complete agreement with you. No candidate will ever win any election with a refusal to accept the support of people the candidate doesn't agree with. It is impossible. So get this cleared up now. Please don't let any one issue make or break your support.