Bernie Sanders interviewed about Fed Audit on Rachel Maddow show

[emazur]

if you're wondering about the watered down language of the bill, skip to the last minute of the interview
YouTube - Senate Unanimously Pass Audit The FED Amendment! Sen Sanders Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5Hj4-Jfuw&feature=player_embedded)

[Vessol]

Fuck you Sanders. You can tell he knows he's a little sellout. Look at how he stumbles at the question and nods a lot. Lying son of a bitch, you gutted Audit the Fed like a sturgeon.

[tpreitzel]

Specificity isn't necessarily a good thing if many important specifics are absent from the bill. ;)

[isrow]

That was a piece of garbage. Specificity... More like restrictions.

[Sentient Void]

if you're wondering about the watered down language of the bill, skip to the last minute of the interview
YouTube - Senate Unanimously Pass Audit The FED Amendment! Sen Sanders Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F5Hj4-Jfuw&feature=player_embedded)

Goddamned corporatist pig.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[Todd]

If he supports the original language than why did he offer an amendment with less than a full ongoing audit?

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[Old Ducker]

Truly shameful, as expected.

[purplechoe]

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/Obama%20and%20Sanders-thumb

[LittleLightShining]

Yeah, well, welcome to VT. I'm sitting here with a copy of a news article from the Burlington Free Press dated May 24, 1989 titled "Sanders may run for state office". At the time he was the former mayor of Burlington. In it he says:

"The truth of the matter is that I am not certain what my political plans will be. Those decisions are not made by me. I'm a part of a movement. It's a major undertaking. I still owe political debts."

And he only incurred more debt when he ran for House in 1990, spending $569,772 to win that seat. In that same time period the average challenger for a House seat spent about $105,000. This from a Times-Argus article dated April 2, 1991 "Reports Say Sanders Beat The Odds in Fund Raising".

[haaaylee]

why the fuck is bernie getting all the credit for this?? bullshit.

[Imaginos]

Backstabber!
:mad:

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

Goddamned corporatist pig.

Those 30 pieces of silver won't do him any good.

[RCA]

Why did anyone trust a self-proclaimed socialist anyway?

[robertwerden]

Time to bring the original bill to the senate floor as an up or down vote and if they vote it down, then they deal with the consequences at the end of a pitch fork and a bunch of angry towns people. Enough of this washington shuffle shit already.
Ron are you there?????????? FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[Light]

I guess Sanders was not content with being just a socialist, and decided to become a full blown fascist like his other peers in Congress.

[BenIsForRon]

YouTube - Sen Sanders Explains Gutting Audit The FED Amendment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPu7-NLg1b0)

Another relevant video.

I'm truly confused here. A lot of you act like you know Bernie's motives for changing this amendment, but you haven't actually said what it is. In this video he says he had to compromise in order for it to pass, because it further assures the rest of congress that the Fed will still be "independent". I'm not buying that as the full story, but I don't know what's really going down.

Some have said the Fed caused the "glitch" last week in order to show Sanders how much power they really have. That sounds a little extreme to me, but I'm all ears going forward.

[catdd]

You can imagine how Ron feels watching his life's work not only destroyed by this corporate pig, but then the guy has the audacity to take credit for the amendment with all the blessings from the status quo? RP should beat the shit out of him.

[Old Ducker]

YouTube - Sen Sanders Explains Gutting Audit The FED Amendment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPu7-NLg1b0)

Another relevant video.

I'm truly confused here. A lot of you act like you know Bernie's motives for changing this amendment, but you haven't actually said what it is. In this video he says he had to compromise in order for it to pass, because it further assures the rest of congress that the Fed will still be "independent". I'm not buying that as the full story, but I don't know what's really going down.


Ridiculous. Sanders introduced the amendment to provide cover for all those corrupt cowards to vote for an "audit" that does nothing to open the books at the FED.

[BenIsForRon]

Ridiculous. Sanders introduced the amendment to provide cover for all those corrupt cowards to vote for an "audit" that does nothing to open the books at the FED.

Then why did he introduce S604 months ago? Do you think he's going to stop supporting that bill now that this amendment has passed?

[RforRevolution]

This was a win-win for sanders and a lose-lose for everyone else. He clearly got something for modifying the amendment. More than that, he literally took all the credit for passing a shitty version of the audit that he knew would pass. This "audit" does more harm than good and will ultimately stifle support for a real audit.

[BenIsForRon]

This was a win-win for sanders and a lose-lose for everyone else. He clearly got something for modifying the amendment. More than that, he literally took all the credit for passing a shitty version of the audit that he knew would pass. This "audit" does more harm than good and will ultimately stifle support for a real audit.

I agree with your post except for "he clearly got something". What did he get besides the credit for being the amendment's sponsor?

[wildturkey]

I still have a little hope. This bill will go to committee, and I hope RP will put the strong language back in it. If not, I hope he tells members to not vote for a piece of shit, worthless bill. Even that scum sucking, piece of shit Alan Grayson wants a full audit, and 413 other co-sponsors. Why cant it pass the senate?

[HOLLYWOOD]

Don't forget the Dumb Asses in Vermont that will say... "Our Senator Bernie "The Sellout" Sanders is looking out for us, Yipee!" :rolleyes:

Yeah we get to see all the racketeering, conspiring and fraud of the G20, THE FED, and all these lying governments.

Scumbag Sanders Sellout... I hope this guy shows up for Q&A on C-SPAN... I'll have a ARMY calling, twittering, emailing this clown.

[Peace&Freedom]

If the Paul language doesn't pass this year, perhaps Sen. Rand Paul can re-introduce the real version of it next year, and not fold at the last minute like Sanders did.

[RforRevolution]

I agree with your post except for "he clearly got something". What did he get besides the credit for being the amendment's sponsor?

I have no idea and probably never will, but if the entire administration now backs it and Sanders "worked with" Dodd to sort it out, then something is corrupt.

[Imaginos]

You can imagine how Ron feels watching his life's work not only destroyed by this corporate pig, but then the guy has the audacity to take credit for the amendment with all the blessings from the status quo? RP should beat the shit out of him.
Watching this piece of shit taking credit for (fake) Fed audit on MSNBC truly made me sick to my stomach.
I can't even imagine what Ron Paul feels right now.
Majority of senators just proved themselves (again!) as bought and paid for traitorous SOBs.
:mad:

[t0rnado]

This tool had the audacity to talk about grassroots groups helping the audit pass.

[daviddee]

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[tpreitzel]

Ron Paul should be all over the airwaves humiliating Bernie Sanders in a classy manner for gutting his bill in the US Senate and then voting for the Vitter amendment. Ron is simply too genteel for this fight. Yes, we need him in the HR as he's a great thinker, but we need some dogs of war as well. Grayson's Red Roof Inn speech is a good way to humiliate the establishment. So, Ron, GET OUT THERE and expose the shenanigans, slyly embarrass Sanders into bringing up the original language in the US Senate BEFORE the elections this year. The people are sick and tired of these tactics and we don't want to WAIT any longer!

[catdd]

I just hope the Tea Party knows the difference. Are they talking?

[messana]

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[Free Moral Agent]

F him, I'm calling his office and giving him a piece of my mind. How dare he act as if he's doing such a meaningful thing, all the while totally ignoring Ron Paul and the real Audit The Fed (http://www.auditthefed.com/view-the-coalition/) coalition.

[Bman]

This tool had the audacity to talk about grassroots groups helping the audit pass.

No shit. What liberal grass roots movement made one phone call on this. I call B.S.!!!

[free1]

It's still going to have to pass the house, and their stuff is a little more demanding and continues the auditing, so if we are lucky, and...

EVERYONE SHOULD CALL THEIR CONGRESSMAN in the house about this.

Make sure the tough stuff is put in.

[pacelli]

Oh no, why would Sanders mention the AFL-CIO, moveon.org, and "progressive" movements? Simple answer. Could it be because they bought him? Say it ain't so!

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[TheState]

Does anyone think that maybe he changed the bill because he knew it wasn't going to pass? I mean the Vitter amendment lost pretty badly. Maybe Sanders knew this was going to be the case and got what he could. Maybe he knew that Vitter could introduce the original language again so both would get a vote.

I'm not saying this is for sure the case, but before we condemn the guy, it's a possibility.

[MRoCkEd]

Does anyone think that maybe he changed the bill because he knew it wasn't going to pass? I mean the Vitter amendment lost pretty badly. Maybe Sanders knew this was going to be the case and got what he could. Maybe he knew that Vitter could introduce the original language again so both would get a vote.

I'm not saying this is for sure the case, but before we condemn the guy, it's a possibility.
I agree.

[catdd]

Does anyone think that maybe he changed the bill because he knew it wasn't going to pass? I mean the Vitter amendment lost pretty badly. Maybe Sanders knew this was going to be the case and got what he could. Maybe he knew that Vitter could introduce the original language again so both would get a vote.

I'm not saying this is for sure the case, but before we condemn the guy, it's a possibility.

It's possible, but the guy is a worm for taking credit for this bill.
Something good MAY come out of it in time, but I'll never give him credit for it.

[tsai3904]

Does anyone think that maybe he changed the bill because he knew it wasn't going to pass? I mean the Vitter amendment lost pretty badly. Maybe Sanders knew this was going to be the case and got what he could. Maybe he knew that Vitter could introduce the original language again so both would get a vote.

I'm not saying this is for sure the case, but before we condemn the guy, it's a possibility.

I don't buy this at all.

First of all, the amendments to the financial reform bill only require 50 votes to pass rather than the 60 votes that some people were assuming (according to the roll call votes). There were 37 senators who voted in favor of Vitter's amendment, which doesn't include the 6 senators who co-sponsored S604 but did not vote for Vitter's amendment (Bennett, Harkin, Cardin, Leahy, Boxer, and Landrieu). Then, there was Jeanne Shaheen who signed onto the Sanders amendment as a cosponer on May 4 prior to Sanders watering it down, but voted against Vitter's amendment. This makes 44 senators who have supported, on the record, for a full audit prior to Sanders' compromise. There were also more senators who were on the fence and hinted at voting for a full audit.

Now if Sanders never compromised, I truly believe 6 more senators would have voted for a full audit given the option of a full audit or no audit at all. Sanders had the leverage of the public's outrage if no audit were to be passed to convince 6 more senators to vote in favor of his amendment. He had to have received some type of support from the White House for him to cave when he was so close to passing his bill.

[catdd]

I don't see how Sanders could have known that the Vitter amendment would fail unless there had been a lot of back room discussions about it that Ron Paul was not invited to.

[The Patriot]

I was always skeptical of this Sanders guy. Why would a self-avowed "democratic socialist", work to expose the epitome of Keynesian policy, a fiat central bank, the exposure of it's corruption would not doubt lead to calls for it's abolition and return to a Gold Standard? His ideal socialist government cannot be funded without a Federal Reserve to finance large scale debt. Hopefully if Republicans get a majority in the Senate we can get DeMint and Rand Paul to introduce an amendment with some teeth to it.