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Danke
05-11-2010, 11:34 PM
Arizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies

By JONATHAN J. COOPER, Associated Press Writer Jonathan J. Cooper, Associated Press

PHOENIX – Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill targeting a school district's ethnic studies program on Tuesday, hours after a report by United Nations human rights experts condemned the measure.

State schools chief Tom Horne, who has pushed the measure for years, said a Tucson school district program promotes "ethnic chauvinism" and racial resentment toward whites while segregating students by race.

"It's just like the old South, and it's long past time that we prohibited it," Horne said.

The measure prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group. It also prohibits classes that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government.

The Tucson Unified School District program offers specialized courses in African-American, Mexican-American and Native-American studies that focus on history and literature and include information about the influence of a particular ethnic group.

For example, in the Mexican-American Studies program, an American history course explores the role of Hispanics in the Vietnam War, and a literature course emphasizes Latino authors.

Horne said he believes the Mexican-American studies program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people. Public schools should not be encouraging students to resent a particular race, he said.

Brewer's signature on the bill comes less than a month after she signed the nation's toughest crackdown on illegal immigration — a move that ignited international backlash amid charges the measure would encourage racial profiling of Hispanics.

A Republican running for attorney general, Horne has been trying to restrict the program ever since he learned that Hispanic civil rights activist Dolores Huerta in 2006 told students that "Republicans hate Latinos."

District officials said the program doesn't promote resentment, and they believe it would comply with the new law.

About 1,500 students at six high schools in the district are enrolled in the program. Elementary and middle school students also are exposed to the ethnic studies curriculum. The district is 56 percent Hispanic, with nearly 31,000 Latino students.

Sean Arce, director of the district's Mexican-American Studies program, said last month that students perform better in school if they see in the curriculum people who look like them.

"It's a highly engaging program that we have, and it's unfortunate that the state Legislature would go so far as to censor these classes," he said.

Six UN human rights experts released a statement earlier Tuesday expressing concern about the measure. All people have the right to learn about their own cultural and linguistic heritage, they said.

Brewer spokesman Paul Senseman didn't directly address the UN criticism, but said Brewer supports the bill's goal.

"The governor believes ... public school students should be taught to treat and value each other as individuals and not be taught to resent or hate other races or classes of people," Senseman said.

The law doesn't prohibit classes that teach about the history of a particular ethnic group, as long as the course is open to all students and doesn't promote ethnic solidarity or resentment.

Arce could not immediately be reached after Brewer signed the bill late Tuesday.

RedStripe
05-11-2010, 11:43 PM
Ah, so government policies which somehow create ethnic resentment towards whites are bad, but those that promote ethnic resentment towards Hispanics are A-OK.

The American Southeast: No longer the leader in American racism.

nate895
05-11-2010, 11:44 PM
Oh the humanity!

michaelwise
05-11-2010, 11:56 PM
Will President Barack Obama undo any of the shit President George Bush did to us, or will he just keep piling more shit on top of it? That is the question!

silentshout
05-12-2010, 12:31 AM
Wow..this is insane.

Lord Xar
05-12-2010, 01:22 AM
Awesome!

Ethnic studies does nothing but foster resentment towards "whites". Also, if you want to learn about your own culture, do it on your own dime.... I don't need to subsidize your need for self-esteem.

You wanna learn about your "heritage", open a book that you paid for and I don't subsidize.

You want to get a headstart on where these "ethnic studies" lead?

YouTube - L.A. Teacher Calls for Mexican Revolt in the U.S. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGqPo5ofk0s)

Or this "offensive" (as said by the teacher) artwork by a child.

http://toddstarnes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/flag3-300x224.jpg

story here: http://toddstarnes.com/?p=559

nobody's_hero
05-12-2010, 03:47 AM
Awesome!

Ethnic studies does nothing but foster resentment towards "whites". Also, if you want to learn about your own culture, do it on your own dime.... I don't need to subsidize your need for self-esteem.

You wanna learn about your "heritage", open a book that you paid for and I don't subsidize.


My college has a club called "Black Student Unification." I've always thought it would be funny to show up to one of their meetings one day (not being 'black' myself).

I think Morgan Freeman said it best:

YouTube - Morgan Freeman on Black History Month (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s)

Stary Hickory
05-12-2010, 05:39 AM
Um why should people be forced to engage in ethinic studies? Enlighten me how people are trying to make peace with this and libertarianism at the same time. Ethnic Studies sounds like a politcally correct pile of dung. I am for removing as much of this as possible. If not all of it.

Imaginos
05-12-2010, 06:06 AM
Way to go!
There's nothing libertarian or pro liberty about ethnic studies.
I am an ethnic minority myself (Asian) but I believe ethnic studies is anti-liberty and anti-libertarian.
Why should we give a shit to a certain group of people?
Why can't we just focus on developing each individual as competent as he or she can be without putting them ethnocentric way of thinking?
Ethnic studies create more 'ethnocentric way of thinking' and less 'true liberty way of thinking'
Also ethnic studies create people with weird sense of entitlement ("White people should take care of us forever because your ancestors did this and that") and
definitely destructive for liberty/freedom/individualism/libertarianism/constitution.
I just can't find anything positive about ethnic studies.
All the other states should follow Arizona.
Let's teach kids true liberty and individual responsibility/choice/consequence.
We'll be much better off that way.

tangent4ronpaul
05-12-2010, 06:38 AM
FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now if he would just issue a ban on femi-nazi (womens) studies!

Lets hope this trend spreads across the country.

-t

catdd
05-12-2010, 07:32 AM
Morgan Freeman clip was perfect.

tangent4ronpaul
05-12-2010, 07:43 AM
Morgan Freeman clip was perfect.

+1000

I love it every time he talks about this topic!

-t

JosephTheLibertarian
05-12-2010, 07:52 AM
PHOENIX – Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill targeting a school district's ethnic studies program on Tuesday

Do you know what would truly solve the problem? Eliminating all public schools. Then you leave all of the stupid studies to the free market. I bet there would be more worthwhile studies, and less stupid ones :) it's funny how people waste less when they are spending their own money, and not the money of others.

I don't agree with Arizona's new law, nor do I agree with the socialists that oppose, but what can you do...

noxagol
05-12-2010, 07:57 AM
I knew there was a reason to like morgan freeman other than his acting.

JosephTheLibertarian
05-12-2010, 08:00 AM
My college has a club called "Black Student Unification." I've always thought it would be funny to show up to one of their meetings one day (not being 'black' myself).

I think Morgan Freeman said it best:

YouTube - Morgan Freeman on Black History Month (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s)

Wow. Morgan Freeman is awesome!

silentshout
05-12-2010, 10:30 AM
Uh, why is it libertarian-minded to BAN the classes? Why not introduce different classes? If you don't want to take the classes, don't take them but banning them and then calling that "libertarian"? Sorry, I don't follow that logic. Then again, public schools are a joke..as long as the ban doesn't extend to private schools.

Kludge
05-12-2010, 10:39 AM
Uh, why is it libertarian-minded to BAN the classes? Why not introduce different classes? If you don't want to take the classes, don't take them but banning them and then calling that "libertarian"? Sorry, I don't follow that logic. Then again, public schools are a joke..as long as the ban doesn't extend to private schools.

I'm going to give you my stereotype - right now - of the average White Christian libertarian-conservative on RPFs' stereotypes (Oh - and they have to be Male - non-male racists must be Stormfronters as there are no closet-racist females):

Teachers (at least at public schools) are generally incompetent. History classes only teach the bad things Founders & colonists (white people) did, which really weren't even all that bad, instead of talking about all the great things they did like set up a great liberty-oriented Republic. In fact, the reason those teachers talk about the bad instead of the good is because they're SOCIALISTS. Socialists' political beliefs are established mostly through their white guilt (anyone else is a Welfare Monkey) which is why they further drill their agenda home with anti-American (anti-White) courses such as "ethnic studies." What these courses really do is spew disinformation into our children so they will grow up hating (White) America and voting for people like Barack Obama. This socialist "education" is anti-American and must be eliminated.

Cheer. Cheer.

(--Math teachers aren't incompetent but nobody teaches math anymore & "science" classes are mostly just an excuse for schools to take God out of education)

silentshout
05-12-2010, 10:47 AM
I'm going to give you my stereotype - right now - of the average White Christian libertarian-conservative on RPFs' stereotypes (Oh - and they have to be Male - non-male racists must be Stormfronters as there are no closet-racist females):

Teachers (at least at public schools) are generally incompetent. History classes only teach the bad things Founders & colonists (white people) did, which really weren't even all that bad, instead of talking about all the great things they did like set up a great liberty-oriented Republic. In fact, the reason those teachers talk about the bad instead of the good is because they're SOCIALISTS. Socialists' political beliefs are established mostly through their white guilt (anyone else is a Welfare Monkey) which is why they further drill their agenda home with anti-American (anti-White) courses such as "ethnic studies." What these courses really do is spew disinformation into our children so they will grow up hating (White) America and voting for people like Barack Obama. This socialist "education" is anti-American and must be eliminated.



I see. Since I fall outside of the RPF's stereotype, I guess that helps. I took an ethnic studies class in college out of choice because I was curious. It was alright..I didn't agree with everything and I liked debating the professor. I don't see the point of banning classes. I don't care if there are white studies classes, Bible classes, underwater basketweaving, black studies. The problem is public schools in general..private schools should be affordable and there should be more choice.

paulitics
05-12-2010, 11:00 AM
I think it is most telling that the internationalist cabal front group has a problem with "ethnic studies". Imagine if there were classes teaching gentiles to resent Jews? How would that be even remotely acceptable? Didn't the British empire do this in all of the countries they occupied? It is classic divide and conquer strategy and the UN should not be mingling in Arizona's affairs.

I'm sorry, but it has gone too far, and a civil war is not going to happen if we dismatntle the globalists agenda ASAP.

MelissaWV
05-12-2010, 11:13 AM
The measure prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group. It also prohibits classes that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government.

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The law doesn't prohibit classes that teach about the history of a particular ethnic group, as long as the course is open to all students and doesn't promote ethnic solidarity or resentment.

Arce could not immediately be reached after Brewer signed the bill late Tuesday.

In an ideal world, there would be charter schools or private schools that cater to this kind of "tinted" teaching if there was a demand for it. As public school programs, it seems a bit silly to have an entire track of the same types of classes... but flavored with a certain slant. If the lesson plans were simply entirely honest, then it wouldn't need to be tailored depending on gender or race or national origin or first language or anything else. It seems like a good way to waste time and money.

Then again, this is another way in which Government in schools fails. If Government is going to be involved, then it's going to continue to be a crime to talk about overthrowing the Government, and likely things like that silly Second Amendment and a well-regulated militia will be viewed as scandal (re: the bolded part of the snippet above). Good job rotting the future's brain, Government!

Warrior_of_Freedom
05-12-2010, 01:56 PM
This reminds me of my college experiences, there were all these 'african american studies' or even less tastefully called 'black history studies' sometimes. I really like what Morgan Freeman said.

Brian4Liberty
05-12-2010, 02:43 PM
"Hello children, welcome to school! First thing we are going to do is separate you all into groups, and for the next 12 years, we will administer some social justice."

Acala
05-12-2010, 03:36 PM
PHOENIX – Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill targeting a school district's ethnic studies program on Tuesday

Do you know what would truly solve the problem? Eliminating all public schools. Then you leave all of the stupid studies to the free market. I bet there would be more worthwhile studies, and less stupid ones :) it's funny how people waste less when they are spending their own money, and not the money of others.

I don't agree with Arizona's new law, nor do I agree with the socialists that oppose, but what can you do...

This^

Freedom is so simple. It is when government gets involved in things it should not be involved in that all these complicated issues arise.