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clb09
05-11-2010, 09:48 AM
YouTube - Mexican Students Knock U.S. Flag to the Ground (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSuqU0Yx4jw&feature=popt00us07)

tropicangela
05-11-2010, 09:59 AM
I agree with one of the tube comments... that was basically an assault and the officer just stood there. This is just a shame and brought me to tears. And I haven't cried since watching the For Liberty documentary.

MelissaWV
05-11-2010, 09:59 AM
Title is misleading.

One obnoxious moronic kid in a wifebeater, who is obviously too big for his britches, smacked a flag that was being waved out a car window. Other students in the video (I'm assuming they're students from the video title) did not seem so excited by the flag-batting or the confrontation at all.

One really obnoxious woman parading around gesturing at people was also present.

There is also the police officer who showed up... he was incredibly helpful. :rolleyes:

I wasn't aware sticking the flag out the window and poking at people was proper flag etiquette, but maybe I'm old-fashioned.

From there the video goes on into the typical La Raza inspired bullshit rally. It looks like a handy excuse for ignorant kids to miss some class, and for police to get some sun.

It's generally a bunch of ignorant fucks. Kind of like some other folks I've seen...

YouTube - Flag Burning in Washington DC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGZswrhzCPc&NR=1)

TXcarlosTX
05-11-2010, 10:15 AM
When I went to go see USA play Mexico in Azteca Stadium last year I saw plenty of flag burnings. Kinda sad. But oh well. 110,000 people in their. What was I gonna do? ha


Watch the video below and see how Mexicans treat us. This game was nuts. Americans had to be escorted by police. It was nuts
YouTube - ROAD TO SOUTH AFRICA Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI06Jim5CTE&feature=related)

yokna7
05-11-2010, 11:37 AM
This is a big to do about nothing! Everyone gets it, you can celebrate be Mexican. That is super! Everyone encourages it actually. So shut up, this is dumb. So continue protesting something that isnt there...

MelissaWV
05-11-2010, 11:41 AM
Yeah from the protests here in AZ, I see them waving the American flags, and some Mexican flags. But mainly American ones, which is a good thing. :)

Anyways those Mexicans or Mexican-Americans probably didn't even know what Cinco de Mayo celebrates, but it is "their national holiday" I guess.

Nah. Cinco de Mayo is another "excuse holiday." Do most people do anything special for Veterans' Day? Do most people really go all-out on Columbus Day (a lot of people still have the day off)? The only thing that makes Cindo de Mayo "festive" is that it's associated with almost every cliche one can think of, and that includes drinking, therefore people love it. It's an opportunity to drink weak Mexican beer and eat half-price nachos or something :p

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It's funny how the US picks a scapegoat to point at, and people who would normally be incredibly intelligent and see past the dog and pony show suddenly go "OMG it's so TRUE! Those people hate us!" The Muslims didn't really pan out, so now it's the Mexicans. Instead of fixing what's fundamentally wrong with the country, people rally together and unite against "the enemy." It never ceases to sadden.

Individuals do stupid things. Punish those stupid things appropriately when Constitutionally viable to do so. Quit being distracted by the groupthink bullshit, and examine what's really wrong with the nation.

dannno
05-11-2010, 11:41 AM
It's too bad they didn't start the video five seconds earlier when the white guys probably said some stupid shit like "Go back home you fuckin dirty Mexicans!"

The video probably would have made a lot more sense that way.

romacox
05-11-2010, 11:46 AM
Just ask the Indians what happens when you do not protect your borders. The Mexicans do not understand they are being used by the SEIU, IMF, and Federal Reserve. In the end they will not find freedom, but enslavement.

yokna7
05-11-2010, 11:55 AM
When I went to go see USA play Mexico in Azteca Stadium last year I saw plenty of flag burnings. Kinda sad. But oh well. 110,000 people in their. What was I gonna do? ha


Watch the video below and see how Mexicans treat us. This game was nuts. Americans had to be escorted by police. It was nuts
YouTube - ROAD TO SOUTH AFRICA Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI06Jim5CTE&feature=related)

It bums me out the last 2 times we've played Mexico. Until we lost the 2009 Gold cup game, we hadnt' lost to them in 10 years. The 2009 gold cup game destroyed me. :(

TXcarlosTX
05-11-2010, 12:27 PM
It bums me out the last 2 times we've played Mexico. Until we lost the 2009 Gold cup game, we hadnt' lost to them in 10 years. The 2009 gold cup game destroyed me. :(


We had just come back from beating the best team in the world spain, and loosing to brazil.

That takes alot out of you. Its ok.

Maybe we meet them in the 2nd rd.

Either way ill be making the trip to Azteca everytime.
One day we will win their. And ill prob get killed.
But fuck it. It will be worth it.

angelatc
05-11-2010, 12:30 PM
Americans actually watch soccer?

angelatc
05-11-2010, 12:37 PM
Morgan Hill, CA. They were marching to protest the American kids who wore the American flag shirt to school. Apparently they find the American flag offensive because they have no desire to actually be Americans. They just want to leech off of us.

Send them back home to Mexico.

FSP-Rebel
05-11-2010, 12:47 PM
Americans actually watch soccer?
Not like we do other sports, but interest does peak when World Cup time comes around. It's a novelty similar to the Olympics. My club team (Vardar III) won a national championship back in '98 in the 16-yr old category, though I never made it onto the national team the US puts up for the Cup. While I know plenty of people that could give a crap about soccer, it's the appreciation of the dynamics of that level of the game which draws attention to the World Cup.

libertarian4321
05-11-2010, 12:47 PM
It looked like a typical case of young, hot-headed boys acting like assholes- the guys waving the flag were trying to get a reaction, and they got it. The stupid Mexican guy in the wife beater then took it up a notch by knocking down the flag. Then, of course, the flag wavers had to start with the "Mexicans go home" thing, even though a lot of them were probably born here.

Stupid piled onto stupid piled onto more stupid.

Young, immature males being moronic and aggressive.

See it at a bar near you on any Saturday night.

Most Mexican Americans don't act like the asshole in the wife beater, and most "white" Americans don't act like the assholes in the truck.

MelissaWV
05-11-2010, 12:51 PM
It looked like a typical case of young, hot-headed boys acting like assholes- the guys waving the flag were trying to get a reaction, and they got it. The stupid Mexican guy in the wife beater then took it up a notch by knocking down the flag. Then, of course, the flag wavers had to start with the "Mexicans go home" thing, even though a lot of them were probably born here.

Stupid piled onto stupid piled onto more stupid.

Young, immature males being moronic and aggressive.

See it at a bar near you on any Saturday night.

Most Mexican Americans don't act like the asshole in the wife beater, and most "white" Americans don't act like the assholes in the truck.

Tunnel vision is a strange thing. I'm the only one who's mentioned, so far, that the other people at the start of the video were pulling the idiot in the wifebeater back away from the truck. The title, though, is not "Mexican women attempt to stop hot-headed asshat in wifebeater from taking trollbait from flag-wavers."

libertarian4321
05-11-2010, 12:52 PM
We had just come back from beating the best team in the world spain, and loosing to brazil.



I always wondered if part of the hostility wasn't because the Americans are now very competitive with Mexico in soccer.

Thirty years ago, Mexico was the dominant soccer power in CONCACAF (N. American, Central America, and the Caribbean), but now the USA is as good, if not better.

It was one of the few things that Mexico used to be much better at than the USA, and now they don't even have that.

Must piss them off some.

Freedom 4 all
05-11-2010, 12:55 PM
If America sucks and Mexico is so great, how come Mexico doesn't have millions of undocomented American immigrants?

libertarian4321
05-11-2010, 12:59 PM
that the other people at the start of the video were pulling the idiot in the wifebeater back away from the truck.

I noticed that too- the girls were trying to pull that asshole back. Young males are far more likely to act stupid and aggressive at the drop of a hat, and women will often try to get them to stop acting like jackasses (usually unsuccessfully).

jkr
05-11-2010, 01:00 PM
silly clown
dont you frown
if they beat ya down
jus turn that flag UPSIDE DOWN


theyll know what you mean

dannno
05-11-2010, 01:03 PM
Tunnel vision is a strange thing. I'm the only one who's mentioned, so far,

Maybe if you changed your name and didn't have such a hotty as an avatar all the time more people would pay attention to your posts instead of being all distracted :rolleyes:

TXcarlosTX
05-11-2010, 01:07 PM
Americans actually watch soccer?

Ha. Yes. Its called football. I find a parallel between the Ron Paul movement and poeple that watch football in America. Small percentage, we know we are right. Plus the people that are close-minded and dont want to get it dont know what they are missing. Their loss.

TXcarlosTX
05-11-2010, 01:10 PM
Not like we do other sports, but interest does peak when World Cup time comes around. It's a novelty similar to the Olympics. My club team (Vardar III) won a national championship back in '98 in the 16-yr old category, though I never made it onto the national team the US puts up for the Cup. While I know plenty of people that could give a crap about soccer, it's the appreciation of the dynamics of that level of the game which draws attention to the World Cup.


Well said. The only way I get any interest from my amigos is to show them the money. I just point out that when national teams play at that level their alot on money on the field. For instance like a Argintina vs Spain game could garner about 1BILLION US on the field in player contract. That usually gets people interested.

Live_Free_Or_Die
05-11-2010, 02:14 PM
It's too bad they didn't start the video five seconds earlier when the white guys probably said some stupid shit like "Go back home you fuckin dirty Mexicans!"

The video probably would have made a lot more sense that way.

You are sounding like the other side. As advocates of non-aggression principles don't we advocate express yourself and say what you want as long as you don't initiate aggression?

There wasn't any evidence the people waving the flag initiated aggression. They got their flag and got back in their truck. It did not appear the camera operator was affiliated with the people in the truck.

If it is not a crime to wave a Mexican flag and express sentiment it is sure as hell not a crime to do the same thing waving an American one.

Free Moral Agent
05-11-2010, 02:40 PM
You are sounding like the other side. As advocates of non-aggression principles don't we advocate express yourself and say what you want as long as you don't initiate aggression?

+1

jbuttell
05-11-2010, 02:41 PM
It's too bad they didn't start the video five seconds earlier when the white guys probably said some stupid shit like "Go back home you fuckin dirty Mexicans!"

The video probably would have made a lot more sense that way.

Notice the pickup truck was stuck behind another car. The people approached the truck and slapped the flag out of his hands. Why propose hypothetical nonsense for them unless you have sympathy for their ignorant rants?

Regardless of what happened prior to the flag being slapped out of his hands, unless I'm misunderstanding the reason the self-proclaimed 'mexicans' are there protesting, the wifebeater guy was a moron. Pure and simple.

While attending public school in the San Fernando valley, I was forced to observe these bullshit rallys with 'mexican' pride and advocation for the support of illegal immigration. Anyone with any dissenting view was simply shouted down.

Fortunately there was obviously a bit of common sense from one of the women who said something to the wifebeater guy along the lines of "this isn't the right way" Perhaps there's hope...

angelatc
05-11-2010, 03:00 PM
Ha. Yes. Its called football. I find a parallel between the Ron Paul movement and poeple that watch football in America. Small percentage, we know we are right. Plus the people that are close-minded and dont want to get it dont know what they are missing. Their loss.

Football is not soccer in the USA. I know what soccer is - it's what the little kids play before they're old enough for football.

libertarian4321
05-11-2010, 03:22 PM
Football is not soccer in the USA. I know what soccer is - it's what the little kids play before they're old enough for football.

Did you ever wonder why the game we play is called "football" given that there is very little use of the foot in the game?

Rugby football came from football (or what most Americans call "soccer.").

American football came from Rugby football.

BTW, since both "soccer," and "football" are English terms (United Kingdom) to describe the original sport, either is appropriate, though it will likely confuse most Americans.

angelatc
05-11-2010, 03:29 PM
Did you ever wonder why the game we play is called "football" given that there is very little use of the foot in the game?

No. :D

Why is soccer called soccer, when there is very little use of socks in the game? :D

Lord Xar
05-11-2010, 03:38 PM
It's too bad they didn't start the video five seconds earlier when the white guys probably said some stupid shit like "Go back home you fuckin dirty Mexicans!"

The video probably would have made a lot more sense that way.

It would be either you or constituent spouting this complete nonsense. Do you have a mail-order bride from Mexico or something? I am really starting to think you just hate white people. Given a VIDEO, you abstain from forming a valid opinion based on "what you see" but rather "make something up" to invalidate it by creating "...it was probably because..".

Why can't it be just what it is? Illegal immigrant supporters, you included, who have the entitlement mentality, including you, that feel they have equal access to everything an american citizen has, and more often than not, on the american citizens dime - raising ruckus because their party is looking to be crashed......

libertarian4321
05-11-2010, 04:24 PM
No. :D

Why is soccer called soccer, when there is very little use of socks in the game? :D

"Soccer" was originally a shortened version of "association football." Kind of a strange way to shorten association football, but that's what the Brits did.

While modern American football doesn't look much like it's predecessor, Rugby football, as someone who played both sports I always found the derivation of some of the "American football" terms interesting. We have a "touchdown" because in Rugby, when you score a try, you had to touch the ball down to the ground - something they also did in the early days of American football (none of this "crossing the plane" BS where the player just has to wave the ball somewhere near the line). Line of scrimmage came from the scrummage line.

BlackTerrel
05-11-2010, 05:01 PM
Title is misleading.

One obnoxious moronic kid in a wifebeater, who is obviously too big for his britches, smacked a flag that was being waved out a car window. Other students in the video (I'm assuming they're students from the video title) did not seem so excited by the flag-batting or the confrontation at all.

To take a couple people and say this is representative of the 20 million Mexican Americans in a country is a joke. I can easily find videos of whites, blacks, or Asians doing worse. Not sure what the point of this is.


It's funny how the US picks a scapegoat to point at, and people who would normally be incredibly intelligent and see past the dog and pony show suddenly go "OMG it's so TRUE! Those people hate us!" The Muslims didn't really pan out, so now it's the Mexicans. Instead of fixing what's fundamentally wrong with the country, people rally together and unite against "the enemy." It never ceases to sadden.

I don't believe this. Most people in this country aren't so dumb. Yeah there are bigots out there. But I think only a very small minority of Americans see Mexicans as "the enemy".

BlackTerrel
05-11-2010, 05:03 PM
When I went to go see USA play Mexico in Azteca Stadium last year I saw plenty of flag burnings. Kinda sad. But oh well. 110,000 people in their. What was I gonna do? ha


Watch the video below and see how Mexicans treat us. This game was nuts. Americans had to be escorted by police. It was nuts
YouTube - ROAD TO SOUTH AFRICA Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI06Jim5CTE&feature=related)

A lot of the beliefs on this forum are shaped around the concept of "blowback". As in the terrorists don't hate us for no reason, rather they hate us for what we have done to them.

Given that context what would be the blowback here? What reason would the Mexicans have for hating us?

Bruno
05-11-2010, 05:09 PM
A lot of the beliefs on this forum are shaped around the concept of "blowback". As in the terrorists don't hate us for no reason, rather they hate us for what we have done to them.

Given that context what would be the blowback here? What reason would the Mexicans have for hating us?

Taking away their ability to keep taking away the jobs they took from American citizens?

silus
05-11-2010, 09:11 PM
I agree with one of the tube comments... that was basically an assault and the officer just stood there. This is just a shame and brought me to tears. And I haven't cried since watching the For Liberty documentary.
Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should lawyer up and sue then, huh.

It was a video with two sides talking shit. It has no information for rational folks to take into account. Please don't exaggerate it please.

tropicangela
05-12-2010, 07:12 AM
Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should lawyer up and sue then, huh.

It was a video with two sides talking shit. It has no information for rational folks to take into account. Please don't exaggerate it please.

You're a jackass. Foff. The fighting is getting to me... here and overseas. Doesn't need exaggerated. It speaks for itself. Taking a break and going to get therapy. LOL

silus
05-12-2010, 08:40 AM
Sorry.