The Revolution moves FAR RIGHT??/Legalized Marijuana???

[speciallyblend]

The new MSM talking point is we are moving the gop far-right?? WTF?? since when is Legalized Marijuana FAR-RIGHT??????

The Liberty Republicans/Gop will have to be for ending Marijuana Prohibition!! and Legalizing Marijuana!! anything less and they will be alienating themselves with voters, especially in Colorado!! the easist way for the cogop/gop to throw elections is to oppose Ending Marijuana Prohibition and Legalized Marijuana!!!!!!


since when is Legalizing Marijuana FAR RIGHT?????

Right-Wingers For Legalized Marijuana!!! who would of thought??:)

[specsaregood]

WTF?? since when is Legalized Marijuana FAR-RIGHT??????

Uhm, far-right and far-left. Libertarians are the "hippies of the right" afterall.

[dannno]

It really depends on how you define left and right.

[speciallyblend]

Uhm, far-right and far-left. Libertarians are the "hippies of the right" afterall.

yeah i hear you . it just blows my mind. they can call the liberty tea movement far right! they are doing their best to try to make the gop and the liberty movement look like far-right folks!!

i look at the far-right folks as being the extreme of the failed gop and every far-right person i ever met was for locking up and throwing away the key for anyone using marijuana!!

the idea that the Liberty Movement or Tea party Movement is far-right seems to be a good way to marginalize voters from the gop,like the gop needs help doing this!!!

We should be using the marijuana issue to explain to voters that we are not the biggovgop gestapo leadership or the right-wingers that have destroyed the brandname Republican or the idea of smaller government!!!


2 issues we should be hammering the failed gop on is Ending Marijuana Prohibition and ending undeclared wars!!!! if we expose the gop hyprocrisy on marijuana. It would be a step forward for the LIBERTY MOVEMENT to expose the biggovgop on marijuana prohibition!!

[muzzled dogg]

economic freedom

[specsaregood]

yeah i hear you . it just blows my mind. they can call the liberty tea movement far right! they are doing their best to try to make the gop and the liberty movement look like far-right folks!!


Well how about this. It aint a far-left or far-right thing those are both terms put out there by the man to keep us all defined/trapped in a little box. Rather, it is a far-out thing, man.

[Anti Federalist]

Just like the equity markets are no longer any rational gauge of the economy, so are political labels no longer representative of any real meaning.

Left is right, Right is left, up is down down is up.

[ChaosControl]

The new MSM talking point is we are moving the gop far-right?? WTF?? since when is Legalized Marijuana FAR-RIGHT??????

The Liberty Republicans/Gop will have to be for ending Marijuana Prohibition!! and Legalizing Marijuana!! anything less and they will be alienating themselves with voters, especially in Colorado!! the easist way for the cogop/gop to throw elections is to oppose Ending Marijuana Prohibition and Legalized Marijuana!!!!!!


since when is Legalizing Marijuana FAR RIGHT?????

Right-Wingers For Legalized Marijuana!!! who would of thought??:)

Well if you look at a spectrum

Left (Totalitarianism) -> Right (Anarchy)

It'd fit.

[JeNNiF00F00]

Well if you look at a spectrum

Left (Totalitarianism) -> Right (Anarchy)

It'd fit.

This! :)

[speciallyblend]

This! :)

sorry i view right-wingers as anti-marijuana,since they are the driving force behind a failed drug war and marijuana prohibition! i rarely meet a right-winger that is for ending marijuana-prohibition! the so-called right-winger gop folks do not want people voting for legalized marijuana as evidence in my county!! the good news is the right-wingers are in a minority in our county, so i will be putting marijuana on the ballot against their fascists ways!!!!

the last thing pro-marijuana republicans need is to be labeled or associated with these far-right winger fascists!!

my view of a right-winger is a biggovgop neo-con or a biggov gop christian who wants marijuana illegal and the drug war continued as is.

the last thing we want is the tea party movement or liberty movement or Ron Paul revolution even remotely associated with right-wingers aka biggovgop to me!!

[JeNNiF00F00]

sorry i view right-wingers as anti-marijuana,since they are the driving force behind a failed drug war and marijuana prohibition! i rarely meet a right-winger that is for ending marijuana-prohibition! the so-called right-winger gop folks do not want people voting for legalized marijuana as evidence in my county!! the good news is the right-wingers are in a minority in our county, so i will be putting marijuana on the ballot against their fascists ways!!!!

the last thing pro-marijuana republicans need is to be labeled or associated with these far-right winger fascists!!

my view of a right-winger is a biggovgop neo-con or a biggov gop christian who wants marijuana illegal and the drug war continued as is.

the last thing we want is the tea party movement or liberty movement or Ron Paul revolution even remotely associated with right-wingers aka biggovgop to me!!

Remember "prohibition" sparked out of the "progressive movement". Altho it was pretty much bipartisan, people tend to see progressives as Left wing(totalitarians).

[speciallyblend]

Remember "prohibition" sparked out of the "progressive movement". Altho it was pretty much bipartisan, people tend to see progressives as Left wing(totalitarians).

i hear you. it just bothers the hell out of me that folks think i am right-wing?? haha. if i am right-wing??? then that makes the biggovgop truly fascists!!!!!

the fact that folks associate me with the right-wingers and neo-cons is why i say the gop brand name is truly f'ed. you have to explain to folks why your a republican before you can even get the message thru! i wish their was away to get rid of the term gop and republican!!

[JeNNiF00F00]

i hear you. it just bothers the hell out of me that folks think i am right-wing?? haha. if i am right-wing??? then that makes the biggovgop truly fascists!!!!!

the fact that folks associate me with the right-wingers and neo-cons is why i say the gop brand name is truly f'ed. you have to explain to folks why your a republican before you can even get the message thru! i wish their was away to get rid of the term gop and republican!!

Fascism is "left wing" as it involves big govt. Left wing = big govt. Right wing=anarchy. Thats the spectrum that makes sense to me.

[jack555]

The new MSM talking point is we are moving the gop far-right?? WTF?? since when is Legalized Marijuana FAR-RIGHT??????

The Liberty Republicans/Gop will have to be for ending Marijuana Prohibition!! and Legalizing Marijuana!! anything less and they will be alienating themselves with voters, especially in Colorado!! the easist way for the cogop/gop to throw elections is to oppose Ending Marijuana Prohibition and Legalized Marijuana!!!!!!


since when is Legalizing Marijuana FAR RIGHT?????

Right-Wingers For Legalized Marijuana!!! who would of thought??:)


Legalizing marijuana is absolutely a far right issue because it is Libertarian.

The problem is that the whole left/right idea makes no sense.

Far right= libertarian and far right= fascism 2 complete opposites yet both called "far right".

[jack555]

Fascism is "left wing" as it involves big govt. Left wing = big govt. Right wing=anarchy. Thats the spectrum that makes sense to me.

It may make sense to you but thats not the left right most people use. Socialism is far left and fascism is far right even though it doesn't make sense and libertarians don't really fit in anywhere on that scale.

[fisharmor]

I agree with you, and I can appreciate the emphasis you are placing on marijuana, because if prohibition ended, it's the one I'd be growing in my yard.
But I think the emphasis is better placed on the problems with prohibition, rather than the drug itself.

Nobody is firebombing buildings and dusting huge sections of jungle in order to keep pot from coming in from South America.

We seem to have the initiative with pot recently. If there's one thing we in the liberty movement should start doing, it's kicking liberty's enemies when they're down.

A lot of the property seizures, lengthy incarcerations, ruined lives, and no-knock raids are happening because of the so-called hard drugs. Let's start pushing that button, too.

[JeNNiF00F00]

It may make sense to you but thats not the left right most people use. Socialism is far left and fascism is far right even though it doesn't make sense and libertarians don't really fit in anywhere on that scale.

Well there are a couple. Theres Left/right up and down. Libertarians are Up, Statists are down. Then you have left and right. Most people, altho they are left or right are statists(down). The easiest to explain is Left is big govt, right is anarchy. The true republicans are closer to libertarians and are far right. The neocons who want to control everything have foundations in trotsky communism and are pretty much leftist without even realizing that they are. Its OUR jobs in the revolution to teach people whats right and what is wrong. Not to just go along with what everyone is taught in govt. schools, and then 'wonder' why things don't make sense. Call it what it is.

[catdd]

I always thought of the left as being pro legalization until RP came along. Just another reason why I can't understand their disdain for him.

[speciallyblend]

Well there are a couple. Theres Left/right up and down. Libertarians are Up, Statists are down. Then you have left and right. Most people, altho they are left or right are statists(down). The easiest to explain is Left is big govt, right is anarchy. The true republicans are closer to libertarians and are far right. The neocons who want to control everything have foundations in trotsky communism and are pretty much leftist without even realizing that they are. Its OUR jobs in the revolution to teach people whats right and what is wrong. Not to just go along with what everyone is taught in govt. schools, and then 'wonder' why things don't make sense. Call it what it is.

very frustrating indeed. the last thing i want folks thinking i am a right-winger gop republican!!

[speciallyblend]

I agree with you, and I can appreciate the emphasis you are placing on marijuana, because if prohibition ended, it's the one I'd be growing in my yard.
But I think the emphasis is better placed on the problems with prohibition, rather than the drug itself.

Nobody is firebombing buildings and dusting huge sections of jungle in order to keep pot from coming in from South America.

We seem to have the initiative with pot recently. If there's one thing we in the liberty movement should start doing, it's kicking liberty's enemies when they're down.

A lot of the property seizures, lengthy incarcerations, ruined lives, and no-knock raids are happening because of the so-called hard drugs. Let's start pushing that button, too.

i hear you,i plan on pushing every button:) we are gonna show a majority voter block in our elections like we have already the last 12 yrs;) any democrat or republican that opposes ending marijuana prohibition in lake/summit county or colorado will have a very short political future;)

we are one election away from having a Ron Paul supported county government!! Liberty Candidates 2010, Ron Paul 2012

[Fozz]

I think pot should be legalized, but I hardly see it as being anywhere near a top issue.

I don't want libertarians to be seen as libertine, like they were in the 80s.

[speciallyblend]

I think pot should be legalized, but I hardly see it as being anywhere near a top issue.

I don't want libertarians to be seen as libertine, like they were in the 80s.

marijuana is not the issue anymore defending 75 plus yrs of lies and mis-info is really the issue!! it is beyond marijuana now and has been. this is more about removing folks from office that are willing to defend 75 plus yrs of lies!! people who can defend marijuana prohibition should be removed from office as being incompetent!!!!! no matter their party!!!

top issue in my county where 72% of voters in 2006 voted to legalize marijuana! marijuana is such a non-issue ,it should be legalized and if anyone opposes it,they should be removed from office for supporting 75 yrs of lies!! marijuana has become the largest voter block in our counties and around colorado! we expect to use that largest voter block in our county to start removing folks from office;)

opposing THE LARGEST VOTER BLOCK IN OUR COUNTY IS A GOOD WAY TO BE SENT PACKING;)

[ChaosControl]

sorry i view right-wingers as anti-marijuana,since they are the driving force behind a failed drug war and marijuana prohibition! i rarely meet a right-winger that is for ending marijuana-prohibition! the so-called right-winger gop folks do not want people voting for legalized marijuana as evidence in my county!! the good news is the right-wingers are in a minority in our county, so i will be putting marijuana on the ballot against their fascists ways!!!!

the last thing pro-marijuana republicans need is to be labeled or associated with these far-right winger fascists!!

my view of a right-winger is a biggovgop neo-con or a biggov gop christian who wants marijuana illegal and the drug war continued as is.

the last thing we want is the tea party movement or liberty movement or Ron Paul revolution even remotely associated with right-wingers aka biggovgop to me!!

It all depends on what you view as right-wing. I'd say what you're calling right-wing is actually left wing.

[speciallyblend]

It all depends on what you view as right-wing. I'd say what you're calling right-wing is actually left wing.

well maybe they are left-wing communist/fascist Christians?? either way they want to deny a majority voter block the right to vote on decrim of marijuana!!!

We plan on putting it on the ballot anyway;) but we will remind every voter who wanted to deny their right to decide!!! left-wing communist/fascist Christian republicans aka neo-cons;)

Liberty will Win In My County;) sometimes you have to remind elected officials what a majority voter block really means:)

it is very inspiring when you have a majority of citizens motivating you. though being known as the leader of Legalized Marijuana does put you on the chopping block alot!!! of course we are using this unifying issue to also elect the right folks who believe in Liberty!! 2010 will be the Yr of Liberty!!!

[tremendoustie]

The new MSM talking point is we are moving the gop far-right?? WTF?? since when is Legalized Marijuana FAR-RIGHT??????

The Liberty Republicans/Gop will have to be for ending Marijuana Prohibition!! and Legalizing Marijuana!! anything less and they will be alienating themselves with voters, especially in Colorado!! the easist way for the cogop/gop to throw elections is to oppose Ending Marijuana Prohibition and Legalized Marijuana!!!!!!


since when is Legalizing Marijuana FAR RIGHT?????

Right-Wingers For Legalized Marijuana!!! who would of thought??:)

Or anti war, anti police state, anti warrantless wiretaps, anti indefinite detentions.

They have to jam everything into their left-right paradigm, however.

[ChaosControl]

Or anti war, anti police state, anti warrantless wiretaps, anti indefinite detentions.

They have to jam everything into their left-right paradigm, however.

I'd consider those right too since they are more on the side of anarchy than on totalitarianism.

Although I guess historically right wing has been pro monarchy, pro central government. So how in the world did free markets and decentralization get linked with conservatism and right wing? Is it because the fascists and state socialists took the "liberal" and left wing label?

Either way, the whole thing is kind of stupid. According to the scale they use I have far left and far right views, so I guess I'm a moderate. :P

[tremendoustie]

I'd consider those right too since they are more on the side of anarchy than on totalitarianism.

Although I guess historically right wing has been pro monarchy, pro central government. So how in the world did free markets and decentralization get linked with conservatism and right wing? Is it because the fascists and state socialists took the "liberal" and left wing label?

Either way, the whole thing is kind of stupid. According to the scale they use I have far left and far right views, so I guess I'm a moderate. :P

I don't think the left-right paradigm runs from totalitarianism to anarchy. It's more like this:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=10&e=10

Rightists tend to want more government when it comes to social issues, and less government economically. Leftists, the opposite. Libertarians want want less government in general, and authoritarians want more government in general.

Of course, in practice, both democrats and republicans are pretty much authoritarians.

[Bruno]

Fascism is "left wing" as it involves big govt. Left wing = big govt. Right wing=anarchy. Thats the spectrum that makes sense to me.

Have you seen this video series?

YouTube - Overview Of America 2 of 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4IHplKT6xo&feature=related)

[tremendoustie]

I think pot should be legalized, but I hardly see it as being anywhere near a top issue.

I don't want libertarians to be seen as libertine, like they were in the 80s.

Libertine implies personal approval -- this is very different than advocacy of legalization. I don't support recreational drug use, but I certainly don't support prohibition.

I do think it is an important issue. The amount of violence and poverty in this country directly caused by the war on drugs, and the number of ruined lives, is staggering.

[CaseyJones]

The new MSM talking point is we are moving the gop far-right?? WTF?? since when is Legalized Marijuana FAR-RIGHT??????

The Liberty Republicans/Gop will have to be for ending Marijuana Prohibition!! and Legalizing Marijuana!! anything less and they will be alienating themselves with voters, especially in Colorado!! the easist way for the cogop/gop to throw elections is to oppose Ending Marijuana Prohibition and Legalized Marijuana!!!!!!


since when is Legalizing Marijuana FAR RIGHT?????

Right-Wingers For Legalized Marijuana!!! who would of thought??:)

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[BuddyRey]

Left and right are essentially meaningless terms, since they can mean whatever the pundits or the politicians want them to mean at any given moment. It's not important to the power-brokers that "left" and "right" signify any real, definable philosophy; it's only important to them that you come to define yourself with one or the other, to the point where you'll not only vehemently despise whatever volleys may come from over the bough from "the other team", but see anything outside the black and white, er...left and right, as novel amusement, or worse, frighteningly beyond the pale.