Did anyone see Glenn Beck's show yesterday?

[Deborah K]

Disturbing how no one else in the media is covering this. Also very disturbing how pissed off he gets at the end. Around 8:00 in part 3. I'm not sure what to make of all this information. Been digging around a little and it's looking to be true.

http://watchglennbeck.com/video/2010/April/Glenn-Beck-Show-April-29-2010-Crime-Inc/

[FrankRep]

Giving Glenn Beck some love:



Despite President Obama’s various attempts to thwart his critics by adamantly denying that he is a socialist, his connection to Bertha Lewis and ACORN tells another story. by Raven Clabough

Glenn Beck Exposes Bertha Lewis & ACORN When Mainstream Media Won't (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/3393-beck-exposes-bertha-lewis-a-acorn-mainstream-media-ignores)

Raven Clabough | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
Friday, 23 April 2010

[Carole]

Yes, I saw it.

He did a good job as usual placing many puzzle pieces together. There is more though. He will get back to it next week.

He seemed rather nervous during the program. I think he is worried a bit. He reminded viewers that he is in great spirits, not suicidal, nor interested in cement shoes. :D

Investor Business Daily mentioned it and gave some props to Beck.

The $10 Trillion Climate Fraud
(h ttp://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=531731)

I always think of Danny Casalaro and his Octopus investigation as I watch Beck deliver his information bombs. Danny did not live to tell his story. He died/suicided (!) in a bathtub in WVa with multiple lacerations of the wrists even though hours earlier he traveled there from Fairax to meet an informant. His papers disappeared magically, but others have followed up on his story. Not to worry, he was in great spirits before the death/suicide.

[Pete_00]

Beck is just starting to realise what many people have warned us about over and over... the relation between high-finances and socialism/communism. A relation that may seem strange to the ones that analyze things in a superficial way but makes perfect sense to anyone that thinks just a little about it.

Western bankers and high-finances are the top commies around, always were always will be, they are monopolists and collectivism is the ultimate monopoly. They bankrolled the russian revolution and helped the USSR to stay on its feet for decades...its only obvious that someday they would do the same to the West.

"Dont you know who im taking on? You think im not afraid?"

Respect for Beck...he should be afraid, he has very good reasons. Those people have hundreds of millions of graves in their scoreboard.

[Deborah K]

Beck is just starting to realise what many people have warned us about over and over... the relation between high-finances and socialism/communism. A relation that may seem strange to the ones that analyze things in a superficial way but makes perfect sense to anyone that thinks just a little about it.

Western bankers and high-finances are the top commies around, always were always will be, they are monopolists and collectivism is the ultimate monopoly. They bankrolled the russian revolution and helped the USSR to stay on its feet for decades...its only obvious that someday they would do the same to the West.

"Dont you know who im taking on? You think im not afraid?"
Respect for Beck...he should be afraid, he has very good reasons. Those people have hundreds of millions of graves in their scoreboard.

To be exact: Don't you know who I'm taking on? These people don't screw around. You think I'm not afraid?

I'm praying for his safety.

[AuH20]

Rupert Murdoch is going to have to schedule a little talk with Glenn. His global pals won't be amused by this segment.

[pcosmar]

People here still watch Beck?

I remember when he was afraid of Ron Paul supporters. :p

[Deborah K]

Rupert Murdoch is going to have a talk with Glenn. His global pals won't be amused by this segment.

He talks about Murdoch in part 3 around 6:00. He says Murdoch would never allow him to expose this if it couldn't be verified.

[Deborah K]

People here still watch Beck?

I remember when he was afraid of Ron Paul supporters. :p

I think we scared him straight! :D

[phill4paul]

To be exact: Don't you know who I'm taking on? These people don't screw around. You think I'm not afraid?

I'm praying for his safety.

:rolleyes: Did he cry too? His safety is secure. Beck is bought and payed for. Now how about throwing out some Limbaugh and Hannity? All media shills.

[Deborah K]

:rolleyes: Did he cry too? His safety is secure. Beck is bought and payed for. Now how about throwing out some Limbaugh and Hannity? All media shills.

We all know what Beck haters think. This is for those who realize he has a big bully pulpit that is to our advantage.

[silus]

In the military people masturbate to Glenn Beck. Its sad really.

[phill4paul]

We all know what Beck haters think. This is for those who realize he has a big bully pulpit that is to our advantage.

Wank away.

[MRoCkEd]

Glenn Beck's show is great

[dwdollar]

I don't trust Glenn Beck. The fact he is able to say all this and get away with it should disturb you more than what he is saying. This guy has some powerful allies somewhere.



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[DirtMcGirt]

The clips from the show the other day were interesting... Emerald Group(i think that was the name) will definitely be on my radar...
I feel exhausted after watching him though, he is too hyper for me...

[puppetmaster]

guess rupert was being left out....

[Brian4Liberty]

The connections between Enron, Goldman Sachs and Cap and Trade have been available for a long time. And GS is connected to everyone in government. There are no surprises here, but st least Beck can reach a wider audience.

[Philhelm]

Yeah, I think the hatred for Glenn Beck is overblown. At least he talks about things that are for our cause (sometimes) whether he believes it or not.

[amonasro]

We all know what Beck haters think. This is for those who realize he has a big bully pulpit that is to our advantage.

Yeah, a bully pulpit until he decides to aim his sniper rifle at liberty candidates. Although his message may be correct at times, he/his producers are the ones in control. How productive is that?

At any rate, I'm interested to see how he will treat Rand.

[No1ButPaul08]

all fine and dandy until he endorses mitt romney in 2012

[No1ButPaul08]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=177088&

[Mach]

It's not that I don't disagree with what he says, it's just that he only wants to preach about the current criminal government, almost like a divide and conquer program telling only half the story. When a Republican gets back in Office then what will Beck talk about, all of the great things those politicians are doing (again)?

If he sits around talking all of this stuff and then doesn't support Ron Paul 2012 then you know he is/was just blowing air out of his ass.


YouTube - Dick Cheney ex-director of CFR talks to David Rockefeller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg)

[Natalie]

Honey, honey, poison.

And no, I don't buy the baloney that "he's coming around." He's a shill for the globalists.

YouTube - Glenn Beck is a Neocon (Not Conservative, Not Libertarian) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6C6E6ayh4U)

[Mach]

Maybe in a couple more years he'll correct all of his current mistakes concerning 9/11. ;)

I was impressed until the very end.

YouTube - Glenn Beck's Apology to Libertarians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FuEWxTvRGY)

[jclay2]

all fine and dandy until he endorses mitt romney in 2012

He allready has a love fest going for Sarah Palin. I really don't think people should even give him a go ahead with caution. The people that spin have truths are far more dangerous than are fully diametric oponents on the extreme left. The problem is that people like beck use are rhetoric to attract some of the sheep only to completely thwart candidates/ideas of liberty the next second. Divide and conquer is their plan. This guy is not your friend no matter how many good stories he puts on his program. Did you people allready forget what he did to Debra Medina? Or his support of Mccain/Palin? Anyone who supports the mainstream establishment is not our friend. The fact that he is "getting it" or "moving to the truth" is only a sign to get away from this guy. Watch out, this guy is no friend of liberty and will hurt our cause. Remember, this is the same guy that was originally convinced by Paulson's Bailout!

[LibertyEagle]

I think we scared him straight! :D

It wasn't too long ago that he demolished Debra Medina's chances to win the gubernatorial race in Texas. Don't forget.

[rprprs]

It wasn't too long ago that he demolished Debra Medina's chances to win the gubernatorial race in Texas. Don't forget.

I, for one, NEVER will. And despite what others will invariably say, that she brought it on herself, what I heard in that interview proved to me that he set out from the get-go to demolish her. He could have a RON PAUL 2012 backdrop in his studio as he broadcasts, and I will still never trust him.

[DAFTEK]

Do sheep have small brains? Remember the past? Madina? Ron Paul crazies? Its shocking how many sheep Crazy Beck is still brainwashing on this forum! Anyone who still thinks Fox News or CNN is fair and balanced is nuts. Beck and Napolitano work for Murdoch and they have an agenda that they have to enforce and a plan to satisfy all, including Ron Paulers.... Watch Fox for 24 hours and see how diverse it is yet has one agenda. They are the Wolf Blitzers of Fox! wake up fools!

[pcosmar]

Faux Snooze is a propaganda outlet. Beck is a professional Propagandist.

It is not so much what he says that should concern, but why is he saying it. :(

[specsaregood]

You gotta be kidding me, when he starts saying at some point in the show: How do you know this is true? Why am I on fox news? They couldn't let me say it on fox news if it wasn't true.
LOL, now that is funny.

[TruckinMike]

The idea that Glenn Beck is controlled opposition is circulating fairly heavy in the blogosphere. This latest purge of truth is only damage control. -- He is simply regaining the trust of his "marks".

Keep watching, keep trusting, and it will be you that gets burned...again.

TMike





A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, swindle or bamboozle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence. The victim is known as the mark, the trickster is called a confidence man, con man, confidence trickster, or con artist, and any accomplices are known as shills. -- wikipedia

[ClayTrainor]

Keep watching, keep trusting, and it will be you that gets burned...again.

TMike

This, my friends, is a prophet. :cool:

[itshappening]

you can always rely on Truckin Mike to tell you it straight

[Athan]

People here still watch Beck?

I remember when he was afraid of Ron Paul supporters. :p

You forgot he also stabbed Medina and Texas Patriots in the back because his personal little butt pirate wanted him to help his former lover Dick Perry.

[Free Moral Agent]

The idea that Glenn Beck is controlled opposition is circulating fairly heavy in the blogosphere. This latest purge of truth is only damage control. -- He is simply regaining the trust of his "marks".

Keep watching, keep trusting, and it will be you that gets burned...again.

TMike

+1

[Griffith]

I watched it. It was disturbing. All these coalitions of power surrounding the "Green" movement and using it for political aims. The world is an interesting place.

[Romulus]

You gotta be kidding me, when he starts saying at some point in the show: How do you know this is true? Why am I on fox news? They couldn't let me say it on fox news if it wasn't true.
LOL, now that is funny.

LOL he is the ministry of truth I see.

He's riding a wave. there's no hiding it, he's the MSM version of Alex Jones. There is a market for it.

He's spilling the beans because they the owners, bankrollers, already have the game rigged. They like to brag like that I suppose.

[nandnor]

Dont laught at me!
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/06/custom_1245249209375_becksmaller_03.jpg

[TC95]

Keep watching, keep trusting, and it will be you that gets burned...again.


Exactly. I won't trust Glenn Beck until he tells so much truth that he gets fired from Fox News.

[Todd]

Do sheep have small brains? Remember the past? Madina? Ron Paul crazies? Its shocking how many sheep Crazy Beck is still brainwashing on this forum! Anyone who still thinks Fox News or CNN is fair and balanced is nuts. Beck and Napolitano work for Murdoch and they have an agenda that they have to enforce and a plan to satisfy all, including Ron Paulers.... Watch Fox for 24 hours and see how diverse it is yet has one agenda. They are the Wolf Blitzers of Fox! wake up fools!

Beck's a shill, that's a fact. I have never heard Judge Nap say anything inconsistant on the level Bech has. I don't agree with that point.

[Theocrat]

The idea that Glenn Beck is controlled opposition is circulating fairly heavy in the blogosphere. This latest purge of truth is only damage control. -- He is simply regaining the trust of his "marks".

Keep watching, keep trusting, and it will be you that gets burned...again.

TMike


You forgot he also stabbed Medina and Texas Patriots in the back because his personal little butt pirate wanted him to help his former lover Dick Perry.


Exactly. I won't trust Glenn Beck until he tells so much truth that he gets fired from Fox News.

I'm sorry, but this needs to be said. I find it very strange how people on these forums reason sometimes. What we have above is a classic logical fallacy of an ad hominem attack. Just because Glenn Beck has been wrong on a few occasions, spoken some words which have offended many, and/or supported positions which some here disagree with does not necessarily discredit the information he has presented. Even fools get things right sometimes (by the grace of God).

So it would be best to stick to the content of what Beck has presented and stay away from personal attacks against his person. We, as Ron Paul supporters, would be upset if the opposing side did that same thing to Dr. Paul. If someone expressed he couldn't trust Congressman Paul's views because he was a racist, a libertarian, or a Texan, we would rightly condemn that person for attacking the man and not considering the message. You need to give Beck that same courtesy, if you wish to be rational in this discussion. Just deal with the facts.

[tjeffersonsghost]

I didnt realize people still watched Beck....

[easycougar]

why is it that Beck says the right stuff 90% of the time he is ripped, but when Maddow, Olbermann, or Jon Stewart say something right .0001% of the time they are so great?

[AuH20]

why is it that Beck says the right stuff 90% of the time he is ripped, but when Maddow, Olbermann, or Jon Stewart say something right .0001% of the time they are so great?

You noticed that as well? ;)

[tjeffersonsghost]

why is it that Beck says the right stuff 90% of the time he is ripped, but when Maddow, Olbermann, or Jon Stewart say something right .0001% of the time they are so great?

The problem with Beck is he is a hypocrite.

He was against global warming before he was for it

He was against our healthcare system before he was for it

He was against Ron Paul before he loved him.... oh wait... he still dogs on Ron Paul

He talks about liberty while supporting people like Rick Perry.

He is for civil liberties until he isnt for them....


Beck is a Charlton. He will tell people what they want to hear so long as he gets paid. He cant stand on principals and NO he is not a libertarian. The only pundit I watch on TV is Dylan Ratigan. Olberman, Maddow, Beck, Hannity, they can all go to ####

[RM918]

why is it that Beck says the right stuff 90% of the time he is ripped, but when Maddow, Olbermann, or Jon Stewart say something right .0001% of the time they are so great?

Yeah, this forum is brimming with repeated threads about how great Maddow is. (I'm being sarcastic)

[NiceGoing]

Yep,
Beck is a puppet on strings...

Pull the string, the puppet says Yes.
Pull the left string, the puppet says No.

Simple (though sickening :().

[Bobster]

I'm sorry, but this needs to be said. I find it very strange how people on these forums reason sometimes. What we have above is a classic logical fallacy of an ad hominem attack. Just because Glenn Beck has been wrong on a few occasions, spoken some words which have offended many, and/or supported positions which some here disagree with does not necessarily discredit the information he has presented. Even fools get things right sometimes (by the grace of God).

So it would be best to stick to the content of what Beck has presented and stay away from personal attacks against his person. We, as Ron Paul supporters, would be upset if the opposing side did that same thing to Dr. Paul. If someone expressed he couldn't trust Congressman Paul's views because he was a racist, a libertarian, or a Texan, we would rightly condemn that person for attacking the man and not considering the message. You need to give Beck that same courtesy, if you wish to be rational in this discussion. Just deal with the facts.
This. I hate Beck for what he did to Medina. However, the above is very very true. I'll never financially support Beck, but he has his uses.

[DAFTEK]

Beck's a shill, that's a fact. I have never heard Judge Nap say anything inconsistant on the level Bech has. I don't agree with that point.

I don't expect many to agree with that point but Nap still works for FOX and Murdoch and his political friends and to me Nap is controlled to say and lure the Liberty movement in then flip flop bait and switch.:rolleyes: Just look at his morning buddy buddy Bryan who has always loved warmongering the American people for Fox News with his morning friends... :p

[YumYum]

It is really cool to see that people on this board refuse to wear "the concrete blinders", and call bullshit when they see it. Very good comments.

Beck is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He, like Palin, comes across as being very conservative, but shows his true colors by supporting this country's Empire building and foreign wars. He also support's Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian land.

[DAFTEK]

Remember what Fox News did to Ron Paul. Napolitano never once backed him up. I remember when Napolitano never talked much about politics back in the days... Smoke and mirrors my friends!!


Taser of Wisdom: “Mad Men” Edition (http://www.shortsshortsshorts.com/2009/09/23/taser-of-wisdom-%e2%80%9cmad-men%e2%80%9d-edition/)

http://www.shortsshortsshorts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Beck-on-Time-226x300.jpg

Wow, another night of Emmy glory for a stylized retro TV series that feels like an endless movie, reveling in existential angst and meticulous attention to cultural and jet-set scenery details. Why, it is almost as though USAmerica has some taste, and the cojones to celebrate it.

The obvious disconnect – between the way things were and now are – is part of the show’s appeal. Smoking was omnipresent, drinking almost mandatory, material acquisitiveness the central drive – stoked by advertising – even while the characters who pursue that American Dream are revealed as empty and unfulfilled. The women are in bondage, and not just the girdles and corsets used to render them voluptuous. The men are all the same color, look alike, dress alike, and act alike, save for the one guy who sports a beard and doesn’t balk at hanging out with Negroes.

What is it about this show that draws so few viewers, yet sets the bar so high for achievement that it is annually judged the best TV drama? Is it a history lesson? A cautionary tale? A Biblical parable? A Shakespearean tragedy? A chance to review our collective past through a prism both overly rosy and foreboding?
And, most important: what does it tell us about Glenn Beck?

Being an Ancient, your humble scribe has often been asked: “Will we ever again see a phenomenon quite like the Beatles?” The answer is always, invariably, “no.” It is not that so much talent will never again coalesce in the form of four human beings, or that such humans will never again find each other. Talent is always with us. It is that the audience will never again coalesce in front of the one TV set in the house to watch the same thing at the same time.

We watched the Ed Sullivan show on Sunday nights because it was a variety program that offered something for each member of the family. There was no need to fight over what to watch on the household’s single television, because Ed had something for everyone. Those who loved plate spinners and jugglers and acrobats were catered to, as were those who liked a bit of light stand-up comedy, a little something from Broadway, and the nuclear teens who wanted to hear and see the latest rock artists.

We had a mild curiosity about these long-haired cuties from Liverpool, which interest was hyped up by an unprecedented promotional campaign. And we suffered a collective hunger to be distracted from the long national nightmare that was Dallas only two months earlier.

That media landscape would not last long. Soon, each house had a second TV set, and a third or fourth, so that the family’s viewing habits became fragmented, with each taste catered to by a different show. The variety show format waned, and programming was promulgated to appeal to each individual taste, with particular prominence being given to shows that drew the audiences most attractive to advertisers.

In 1968, news anchor Walter Cronkite did the unthinkable: a resolutely impartial TV presence who never shilled for anything in his entire career, he proclaimed the Viet Nam war unwinnable. It was a bold departure for the nation’s most watched and trusted newsman, and sent seismic shocks up and down the food chain in Washington. LBJ, it was said, uttered the famous words of despair and resignation: “If I’ve lost Walter Cronkite, I’ve lost America.” The incumbent President chose not to run again for reelection.

Just as there will never be another phenomenon like the Beatles, there will never again be a newscaster with the gravitas and magnetic appeal of an Edward R. Murrow or a Walter Cronkite. It is not that there are no reporters with the same integrity and newshound chops. It is that there are now so many news outlets, designed to appeal to so many tastes, that no vast single audience will ever again gravitate toward a single performer in the same way.

Just as we can find in any market an all-Pearl Jam & Nickelback radio station on the dial to play only that which we wish to hear, we can now tune into a news source that has been custom-tailored to suit our individual tastes, something we can be sure will not offend our tender sensibilities nor challenge our own cosmology. In today’s fractured media landscape, we are no longer offered a dozen different versions of the same thing, but a dozen different things drawn from the same story. The outcome depends on who is telling the tale, and who is consuming it.

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Glenn Beck is on the cover of the most recent TIME (http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1924348,00.html) magazine. This is not because he is the new Walter Cronkite, oozing integrity and credibility. He is not even a newsman, but an entertainer. Yet he is a significant player in the new media landscape, in part because he posts decent numbers for the Fox network that purveys him into our homes, in part because he has attracted a loud and volatile viewership that scares the bejesus out of those not besotted with wacky conspiracy theories about Rockefeller-commissioned artwork being inspired by Commies and fascists.

TIME’s treatment of Beck has been instantly deconstructed (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/time-cover-on-beck-mutila_b_289890.html) by media analysts, as it should be. The article that justified the cover is a half-fawning, half-snickering portrait of a huckster who denies or softens in print the very claims he makes on TV. It is the modern equivalent of a carny side-show snake-oil salesman admitting to the educated that he exaggerates the selling points he uses to sell a useless product to the rubes.

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“This President is a racist who hates white people,” Beck says on TV, only to tell TIME that he doesn’t believe this at all. Would Walter Cronkite have ever laid bare his own hypocrisy so blatantly? No, because Walter Cronkite – imperfect though he may have been – was never a hypocrite. But today, all is fair in love, war and the pursuit of ratings.

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Just as it may have been predictable that Lennon and McCartney would find each other in the small town of Liverpool, so too was it entirely predictable that Fox and Glenn Beck would find each other in an increasingly polarized media universe. Both are possessed of malleable ethics, and an obsessively reactionary pro-GOP mania. They suit each others’ purposes exquisitely well.
Based on the unfounded notion that the media in general is held hopelessly hostage to an over-arching liberal agenda, Fox was founded by staunch rightists Rupert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch) (“The Internet will soon be over”) Murdoch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch) and GOP functionary Roger Ailes (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/19/roger-ailes-20-million-pa_n_119920.html) to provide an alternative. And it has done so with a vengeance.

During the reign of Bush The Usurper, Fox could be reliably counted upon to spew the GOP’s talking points into living rooms across the nation. Those made uncomfortable by questions – did Bush actually win the 2000 election, are the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq actually necessary – now found a place that offered them solace and sanctuary from the pesky, troubling omnipresent details of reality. They could turn off their minds, relax and float downstream, confident that there was a method to the madness around them, invigorated by their participation in so homogeneously likeminded an audience.

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Of course, the drawback of relying upon a sole source of media protein is that when it is tainted, one’s world-view becomes distorted and anemic. Thus it was discovered that those who swallowed whole the lie that Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11 were overwhelmingly those who watched only Fox news (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/19/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/). Whereas Walter Cronkite’s sagacity and credibility could sway a nation to question if it was being lied to by a government about a war, Fox’ glee club cheer-leading led to the polar opposite result, swaying a swath of the nation into believing the lies its government told about a war.

It has troubled many sober minds over the years that Fox’ mass hypnosis has led to a vitriolic mass hysteria among the afflicted. It need not. For while it may be frustrating and frightening to us when confronted by the delusional result of Fox’ handiwork, it is important to bear in mind that Fox might be significant, but its output will never be the coin of the realm.

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Fox may outdraw other cable outlets in the news viewership sweepstakes, but it is the sole beacon of its kind. Those disinclined to swallow its brand of KoolAid can go…. everywhere else. While the Foxophiles have only Fox, the rest of us can split our time and attention between ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC and dozens of blog sites. The Fox Nation does not surround us … we surround them. Which is why they rush into, and stay in, their frightened little corners, with some stragglers converging in DC or at ‘tea parties’ only to demonstrate that they have no strength in numbers.

What’s more, Fox’ putative glory days are now behind it. No longer the spokes-network for a totalitarian unitary executive Bush administration, Fox is now in oppositional mode, despising and decrying anything and everything suggested by the Obama Democrats.

Fox might brag of a superior positioning in the media universe, by virtue of its singularity, but it is a hollow boast: the network continues to attract only a tiny fragmented portion of our society. It speaks a language only a very few wish to hear, just as death metal appeals to a very small subset of the music-loving community.

Fox may preach to the choir, but reaches few outside the revival tent. Were it as potent and virile as it imagines itself to be, the electoral results last November would have been significantly different than what we awoke to on that first Wednesday of the month. Not even the incessant militancy of the Fox network could keep the majority of the country delusional, because the majority of the country neither watches the unfair and unbalanced network, nor gives it any greater credence than it deserves.

It has always been, and will always be, that the most disconnected from reality cause us the greatest and gravest concern. We fret that it might be infectious, that the incoherent screaming of the one might become the loud frothing of the many. We need not. Fox is an important galvanizing influence for those who like their opinions fed to them in a predigested form that requires little of their own thought. But they are the few kids who ride on the short-bus, and not representative of the student body as a whole. The Fox network audience is like a parking lot full of short-buses. “Special,” in the compassionate, secondary meaning of the word.

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Walter Cronkite’s announcement that Viet Nam was likely unwinnable was a single statement, and it caused a volcanic reaction. Fox, on the other hand, granted Glenn Beck and his fellow travelers months and months of time to pre-promote his farcical 9/12 (http://www.the912project.com/) convergence and it led to an anemic attendance in DC of about 75,000-100,000 people. Such a number might not be entirely meaningless, but perspective is found in noting that Louis Farrakhan’s Million Man March far outdrew such figures, as do many major sporting events. Obama has repeatedly drawn more warm bodies than this. What does it say about us that we fear a man of such spectacular under-achievement?
With so great an issue as health care facing the nation, with so galvanized an electorate, with so purportedly potent a rallying point as Fox News, and with so many months of promotion for the event, what can explain so paltry a turnout? Bottom line: the nation’s not buying into the bullshit being sold.

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Apparently not even the protesters were boisterous enough to make what Fox thinks is good TV. What other conclusion can be drawn from a Fox producer feeling the need to gin up the troops before a segment of the live coverage began? Yes, Heidi Noonan (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/grass-roots-or-astro-turf-video-shows-fox-news-producer-rallying-912-protesters/)was caught on camera, goosing them to be louder and more raucous, perhaps to make up with volume what they lacked in numbers.

We know that those involved in this exercise in oppositional politics were sorely disappointed with the meagre attendance, for they immediately began inflating (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/12/celebrating-the-912-rallies/) the figures beyond all reason, and circulated false photographs (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/912-tea-party-photo-false_n_286082.html)of other, larger events, to validate their numbers, yet succeeded only in demonstrating their attempted fraud. A circle-jerk of invented crowd-size estimates only focused attention on their own inability to draw an audience.

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Fox must also have been left stinging from its own impotence. They paid for a full page newspaper ad (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/18/fox-news-newspaper-ad-mak_n_291494.html)railing against all the other TV news outlets for having failed to give the Fox-sponsored Glenn Beck 9/12 Disharmonious Convergence what Fox might have thought sufficient coverage. Which led to YouTube - Rick Sanchez Pounds Fox News Over CNN's Tea Party Coverage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESv9TkfoCE) and others itemizing the number of live remotes they had broadcast, demonstrating that they had given the event precisely the coverage it deserved, if not more so.
Of course, Fox might have known what the other broadcast outlets did had they spent 30 seconds fact-checking before rushing their ad into print. But fact-checking is something that “journalists” do, and it’s been a long time since anybody on the Fox payroll – save perhaps Shep Smith – has been accused of being a journalist.

The Fox network specializes in one thing and one thing only: advocacy. It might have sets that look like other networks’ newsrooms, and it might hire people to read what’s on the teleprompter, as do the real-live reporters who work for those other networks. But the similarities between Fox and actual news gathering operations cease there. Unconstrained by the rules and ethics that apply to genuine journalists, Fox is free to make up whatever it wishes to in furtherance of its own agenda: shilling for the GOP.

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Yet even here Fox and Beck may soon diverge to the point of divorce. Beck’s recent interview with YouTube - Glenn Beck: McCain Would've Been Worse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHqCNOhiYNg)on a real news program – albeit an intertube-only show – has the GOP attack dogs out in full force, seeking a pound of Beck’s flesh. Why? He had the temerity to utter the one thing unforgivable to GOP media-whores-of-convenience: “John McCain would have been a worse President than Barack Obama.” Stop the presses! Get me re-write!

The prevailing synergies have gone askew. And now Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes are besieged by phone calls, tweets and carrier pigeons bringing threats of economic retaliation. The GOP response has been entirely predictable, with the others on Beck’s lunatic frequency now anxious to tear him YouTube - Mark Levin rips Glenn Beck as "pathetic" and "mindless" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrwDS1IBVT0), or apart (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/wehner/100152), or a new one (http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/scarborough-on-beck/). Fox’ future isn’t pretty, no matter what happens. Either Fox reins in Beck, or suffers the consequences.

Beck might deliver ratings, but given the on-going and costly ad boycott mounted by Color Of Change (http://www.examiner.com/x-20909-Columbia-Independent-Examiner%7Ey2009m9d20-Glenn-Beck-boycott-successful-according-to-Color-of-Change), his fiscal achievement for the network is gimpy and hobbling. If Fox succeeds in muzzling Beck’s more inflammatory ranting, his audience will dwindle into CNN numbers, making his continued employment there a Pyrrhic victory for both parties.

When Fox severs ties with Beck, as it inevitably must, Beck will insist it was an attempt to silence him, and he will take his substantial but deluded masses with him to whatever more remote media outpost will accept his repugnant presence. Fox will be diminished into further irrelevance by the divorce, and the GOP’s chief propaganda outlet will remain a shrill voice sought out by ever fewer true believers.

Fox promos trumpet loudly the number of viewers they draw, insisting that they outperform the other cable news stations. It is true. What they fail to disclose is that Fox draws only a small fraction of what the network news shows deliver each and every night of the week. While overall viewership for all news programs is trending down – in part due to internet sites and the Daily Show – Fox has a particularly vexing problem: its core viewing audience is primarily composed of the dreaded Oldz, who will die on the couch watching Fox, and not be replaced by a younger audience that seeks its infotainment elsewhere. Even the extravagantly under-performing Katie Couric cleans Fox’ clock, always.

The Taser of Wisdom knows that Sterling-Cooper is one hell of an ad agency, but even they couldn’t right this sinking ship. Fox’ fat financial future has long since sailed into the mist, leaving the network stranded on a perilous reef of its own making. Without a needy co-dependent in the Oval Office – in fact this White House has placed Fox on “ignore” – the once-grand symbiosis is no more, to the chagrin of both Fox and the GOP.
The Taser of Wisdom notes that Sterling-Cooper couldn’t sell Nixon in ‘60, and even Don Draper cannot weave enough ad magic to make a useless product desirable to today’s discerning news consumer. Newspapers may be a dying breed, but Fox will not be far behind.

[constituent]

why is it that Beck says the right stuff 90% of the time he is ripped, but when Maddow, Olbermann, or Jon Stewart say something right .0001% of the time they are so great?


You noticed that as well? ;)

What? I've seen people dog Olbermann and Maddow relentlessly here, and rightly so.

The funny part is that some of you think beck "says the right stuff 90% of the time." That's hilarious.

[YumYum]

Great post DAFTEK! Are you a professional writer? I love your comparison of Lennon and McCartney with Fox and Beck.

[sevin]

The Glenn Beck show is just a show. People take it way to seriously.

[MtMichael1776]

People here still watch Beck?

I remember when he was afraid of Ron Paul supporters. :p

That ^

[Todd]

I wish some were as critical of the other mass disinformation channels as they were of Fox. Fair and balanced applies here as well.

[constituent]

What's wrong with fox news?

They're the only one's telling the truth, and exposing the neo-fascist socialist, racist banker conspiracy.

Besides, it's not like I depend solely on fox news for my information; I check drudge.

[Rocket80]

Why can't we just watch an entertaining show? No one here is a blindly loyal Beck supporter, imo. I watch the show, yes, but I have no fear I am going to be 'betrayed' one day because I simply couldn't care less what he thinks. When he says stuff I agree with I will praise him, when he says stuff I disagree with I will condemn him. That's how it should be for everyone we listen to, even Ron Paul.

I already know how I think/feel about most of these issues, Glenn Beck isn't changing any of that. Sure, once in a while I may do more research on something he brings up, but he is not changing my mind about much, I'm just glad to see someone on TV saying things I agree with. I don't have to have any trust in his sincerity or consistency to feel that way.

[Carole]

I'm sorry, but this needs to be said. I find it very strange how people on these forums reason sometimes. What we have above is a classic logical fallacy of an ad hominem attack. Just because Glenn Beck has been wrong on a few occasions, spoken some words which have offended many, and/or supported positions which some here disagree with does not necessarily discredit the information he has presented. Even fools get things right sometimes (by the grace of God).

So it would be best to stick to the content of what Beck has presented and stay away from personal attacks against his person. We, as Ron Paul supporters, would be upset if the opposing side did that same thing to Dr. Paul. If someone expressed he couldn't trust Congressman Paul's views because he was a racist, a libertarian, or a Texan, we would rightly condemn that person for attacking the man and not considering the message. You need to give Beck that same courtesy, if you wish to be rational in this discussion. Just deal with the facts.

I totally agree with these comments.

Regardless of his mistakes over time, he IS doing the ONE thing no one else is doing. He is PRESENTING lots of information backed by lots of facts.

If one thinks what he DOES say is umimportant, then fine, do your own research. Do it anyway to find what he LEAVES out if it helps.

In the meantime, where else on television with such a large platform as Beck has, can you hear ANY of the things he is saying?

I listen, but I listen with caution. Yes, he is likely to endorse Romney or Palin, but he has said numerous times howmuch closer he is to Ron Paul on many things now than he used to be. He even repeats a lot of things Paul has said.

Listen, but always be "questioning with boldness" as Beck says. :D

[Carole]

The problem with Beck is he is a hypocrite.

He was against global warming before he was for it

He was against our healthcare system before he was for it

He was against Ron Paul before he loved him.... oh wait... he still dogs on Ron Paul

He talks about liberty while supporting people like Rick Perry.

He is for civil liberties until he isnt for them....


Beck is a Charlton. He will tell people what they want to hear so long as he gets paid. He cant stand on principals and NO he is not a libertarian. The only pundit I watch on TV is Dylan Ratigan. Olberman, Maddow, Beck, Hannity, they can all go to ####
And these are the things I keep in mind when listening to him.

However, he has "taught" a good deal of history during his shows. He is at least informing people about a lot of things that maybe 90% of viewers did not know before. I enjoy watching his show most of the time and appreciate the good things while cataloguing those things with which I disagree, such as some of the people he supports.

Over all his impact is helpful. Just be cautious. :)

[AuH20]

Why can't we just watch an entertaining show? No one here is a blindly loyal Beck supporter, imo. I watch the show, yes, but I have no fear I am going to be 'betrayed' one day because I simply couldn't care less what he thinks. When he says stuff I agree with I will praise him, when he says stuff I disagree with I will condemn him. That's how it should be for everyone we listen to, even Ron Paul.

I already know how I think/feel about most of these issues, Glenn Beck isn't changing any of that. Sure, once in a while I may do more research on something he brings up, but he is not changing my mind about much, I'm just glad to see someone on TV saying things I agree with. I don't have to have any trust in his sincerity or consistency to feel that way.


Best show on MSM. Bar none. There is a reason why it's buried at 5 PM.

[No1ButPaul08]

Why can't we just watch an entertaining show? No one here is a blindly loyal Beck supporter, imo. I watch the show, yes, but I have no fear I am going to be 'betrayed' one day because I simply couldn't care less what he thinks. When he says stuff I agree with I will praise him, when he says stuff I disagree with I will condemn him. That's how it should be for everyone we listen to, even Ron Paul.

I already know how I think/feel about most of these issues, Glenn Beck isn't changing any of that. Sure, once in a while I may do more research on something he brings up, but he is not changing my mind about much, I'm just glad to see someone on TV saying things I agree with. I don't have to have any trust in his sincerity or consistency to feel that way.

Most people here can think for themselves, that's not the problem. The problem is Beck has many worshiping fans who will do whatever he says. Like vote for Mitt Romney in 2012 when he endorses him. Watch.

[AuH20]

Who else in the media attacks the president and his insider cronies like this?

YouTube - Glenn Beck: Mr. President, Ask Your Friends To Set The Example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSxJ4_ODvC0&feature=player_embedded)

[anaconda]

Tube?

[tpreitzel]

Nope. Isn't like sweet without Beck? ;)

[devil21]

Beck sure is a big ball of hypocrisy and contradiction.

How can he stand there detailing out this long conspiracy between government and corporations to steal money from the people and then turn around and sabotage candidates and laugh at people who believe the US gov't and its surrogates were involved in the 9/11 attacks? He can understand and demonstrate a grand plan "conspiracy" just fine, obviously.

Or is it that it's only a real conspiracy when it's a Democrat like Obama at the helm and a Democrat like Gore profiting? If so, then Beck still hasn't learned a thing and is never to be trusted. He's just another tool in the left v right paradigm. Obama = GWB, Gore = Cheney. Same shit different guys. Yet Beck doesn't touch that or the "war effort" with a ten foot pole. The comparisons are obvious.

[EndDaFed]

Who else in the media attacks the president and his insider cronies like this?

YouTube - Glenn Beck: Mr. President, Ask Your Friends To Set The Example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSxJ4_ODvC0&feature=player_embedded)

It would be great if it were based on reason and logic, but for Beck that is asking too much. Fear mongering paranoia has no place in the liberty movement.