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Cynanthrope
04-30-2010, 04:25 PM
The guilty party? Randian, "Atlas Shrugged"-ish, unfettered, free market capitalism.

Try all you want to pin this on Obama. Conservative economic philosophy is the culprit. BP was allowed to build and operate this rig with little or no regulatory oversight by Washington.

And why is there little or no regulatory oversight of the oil industry and their offshore drilling?

Ronnie's crusade against regulation and "big government" is why. Followed up nicely by the three Presidents that followed him.

hxxp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8248706

Apparently freedom at fault for everything wrong these days. :confused:

Vessol
04-30-2010, 04:28 PM
Lol. Deja vu anyone? The statists are throwing that corportism=free market captalism again.

GunnyFreedom
04-30-2010, 04:30 PM
He's either intentionally lying or living in a fantasy world -- oil rigs unregulated????? really??

Vessol
04-30-2010, 04:31 PM
He's either intentionally lying or living in a fantasy world -- oil rigs unregulated????? really??

Remember that most of the Lefties think that these guys:

http://www.turner.com/planet/static/graphics/villains.gif

represent the Free Market.

dannno
04-30-2010, 04:36 PM
Regulation: BP will get a hefty fine

Free Market: BP will be held accountable for damages which would probably entail selling everything they own and declaring bankruptcy. Unless they can prove that Mossad was behind the explosions that caused the spill.

ClayTrainor
04-30-2010, 04:37 PM
Banks were unregulated too, and a free-market caused the financial collapse, haven't you heard?

idirtify
04-30-2010, 04:50 PM
To blame the spill on capitalism is like blaming the OKC bombing on transportation.

Cynanthrope
04-30-2010, 06:03 PM
He's either intentionally lying or living in a fantasy world -- oil rigs unregulated????? really??

Amusingly ridiculous, isn't it?

I love some of the responses in the thread:


2. Agreed. Deregulation is to blame for many of today's ills.

40 years and counting. It is high time to rein them in.


3. not to mention Bush-Cheney rolling back safety measures mandatory everywhere else in the world

so great to have a lawless society free of regulation. I feel richer already!

Do those people ever check the Federal Register at all? SMH.

silus
04-30-2010, 06:22 PM
More like unregulated oil pipe.

tmosley
04-30-2010, 06:31 PM
Honestly, I'm starting to think that some environmental terrorist sabotaged the rig. Great way to kill offshore drilling.

Vessol
04-30-2010, 06:31 PM
Honestly, I'm starting to think that some environmental terrorist sabotaged the rig. Great way to kill offshore drilling.

And nationalize the oil industry in one fel swoop.

Fox McCloud
04-30-2010, 06:38 PM
who knows what happened, but it'll take months to clean up/solve the problem.

Either way, in a free market the water would be privately owned, so they could set the terms and conditions required for an oil rig to be there--also, if the oil companies owned the water, they'd likely still clean it up--cause if they didn't, they could lose profits from fishing rights.

anywho, BP has claimed they'll pay for all damages and clean-up: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63T2VX20100430

the sad thing is though, even if they pay for everything, it'll still be claimed to be a failure of the market-place...or something will be invented to downplay the restitution for damages (it wasn't enough! I should have gotten a billion dollars for the damage done to my beach! Every 10 years! for the rest of my life!").

with some people you REALLY can't win because they don't want you to--they're just asinine partisans.

ItsTime
04-30-2010, 06:41 PM
Wait... I thought the EPA said they regulate every part of our lives?


“Regulations have the power of law. Breaking them can result in fines and even jail time. Regulations outnumber Congressional statutes. For every statute passed by Congress and signed into law by the President, federal agencies create about 10 regulations, each of which have the force of law.”

and


“The price of the coffee you drink in the morning is affected by regulations written by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. The television shows you watch are regulated by the Federal Communications Commission. The quality of the air you breathe is affected by regulations written by the Environmental Protection Agency.”

http://regulations.gov

fj45lvr
04-30-2010, 10:22 PM
anyone that actually believes oil rigs aren't "regulated" is a complete moron and dip-shit.

phill4paul
04-30-2010, 10:38 PM
It was caused by other factors. Who stands to gain by not tapping Americas oil reserves.
It is literally money in the bank. As other reserves are tapped out the value of American oil is increased.
Reserve oil equals big business 401k.

phill4paul
04-30-2010, 10:41 PM
anywho, BP has claimed they'll pay for all damages and clean-up: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63T2VX20100430



Meaning their patrons will foot the bill through higher prices. ;)

reardenstone
04-30-2010, 11:04 PM
Honestly, I'm starting to think that some environmental terrorist sabotaged the rig. Great way to kill offshore drilling.

I agree. I thought the same thing mainly because of the timing: goldman sachs ...
cap and trade, etc...

This was a set up.


That said, I support alternative energy and really think it would catch on as safe and economic if the decision was up to the free market.

Face it; Oil has been militarily and incentive dumping subsidized for 100 years.
Coal has been bailed and subsidized. Had we never subsidized them or the auto industry we would have had electric and bio-diesel cars a long time ago.


"Who Killed the Electric Car"
Who_Killed_The_Electric_Car.avi (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6437080948273722203#docid=1405611374523233913)
(Netherlands version w/ subtitles but original english)

emazur
04-30-2010, 11:19 PM
This is a very easy one to counter - "Tennessee's Emory River toxic ash spill caused by a regulated, unfree market"
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/13/coal.ash.illnesses/index.html?eref=rss_latest
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/HEALTH/07/13/coal.ash.illnesses/art.coal.ash.jpg
What might have been discovered months later? Lookee here:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090420/hearn

The Tennessee Valley Authority manipulated science methods to downplay water contamination caused by a massive coal ash disaster, according to independent technical experts and critics of the federally funded electrical company.