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Southern Man
04-29-2010, 06:24 PM
WASHINGTON – Immigration reform has become the first of President Barack Obama's major priorities dropped from the agenda of an election-year Congress facing voter disillusionment. Sounding the death knell was Obama himself.

The president noted that lawmakers may lack the "appetite" to take on immigration while many of them are up for re-election and while another big legislative issue — climate change — is already on their plate.

"I don't want us to do something just for the sake of politics that doesn't solve the problem," Obama told reporters Wednesday night aboard Air Force One.

Immigration reform was an issue Obama promised Latino groups that he would take up in his first year in office. But several hard realities — a tanked economy, a crowded agenda, election-year politics and lack of political will — led to so much foot-dragging in Congress that, ultimately, Obama decided to set the issue aside.

With that move, the president calculated that an immigration bill would not prove as costly to his party two years from now, when he seeks re-election, than it would today, even though some immigration reformers warned that a delay could so discourage Democratic-leaning Latino voters that they would stay home from the polls in November.

Some Democrats thought pushing a bill through now might help their party, or at least their own re-election prospects.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, whose campaign is struggling in heavily Hispanic Nevada, unveiled an outline — not legislation — on Thursday for an immigration bill at a packed news conference. Asked when it might advance, he declined to set an "arbitrary deadline."

If immigration goes nowhere this year, Democrats can blame Republican resistance, though in reality many Democrats didn't want to deal with an immigration bill this year either.

The Democrats' draft proposal, obtained by The Associated Press on Tuesday, called for, among other things, meeting border security benchmarks before anyone in the country illegally can become a legal permanent U.S. resident.

Obama praised the outline and said the next step is ironing out a bill. He said his administration will "play an active role" trying to get bipartisan supporters.

Republican Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who had been working with Democrats on immigration reform, criticized the proposal as "nothing more than an attempt to score political points."

By Wednesday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi offered little hope that the issue was still alive on Capitol Hill.

"If there is going to be any movement in this regard, it will require presidential leadership, as well as an appetite, is that the word? ... as well as a willingness to move forward in the Congress," she said.

House Republican leader John Boehner was more blunt. "There is not a chance that immigration is going to move through the Congress," he said Tuesday.

Rep. Luis Gutierrez, the Democrats' leading advocate for immigration reform, has said he voted for health care reform on the understanding that Obama and congressional Democrats would move a major immigration bill.

Even though he would like to see Latinos turn out to vote for Democrats in 2010, Gutierrez said "many will probably decide to stay home." However, he added, a strict, new immigration law in Arizona may change that dynamic. The law requires law enforcement officers to question anyone they suspect is in the country illegally.

"On one hand you are not going to vote because you don't believe people you voted for are doing a good enough job," Gutierrez said. "Then you say, 'I got to vote, because the enemy is so mean and vindictive, I got to get out there.'"

The Hispanic vote is growing, largely because of Latinos' increasing population. The 9.7 million Latinos who cast ballots in 2008 made up about 7.4 percent of the electorate, according to a 2009 Pew Research Center study.

Hispanic voters helped flip the battleground states of Colorado, Florida, Nevada and New Mexico from Republican to Democratic in the 2008 presidential election.

But even though Latinos' numbers have been increasing, in some parts of the country their portions of voting populations are not large enough to affect election outcomes.

Democrats hold a 254-177 majority in the House, with four vacancies. But 48 are in districts where Republican Arizona Sen. John McCain did better than Obama in the 2008 elections.

Matt Angle, a Democratic political strategist focused on Texas, said it would be worse for Democrats to propose a bill that has no hope of passing or getting Republican support. Doing so would allow Republicans to cherry-pick parts of the bill to use against Democratic candidates, he said.

The Senate also has a number of competitive races, some in states with significant numbers of Hispanic voters, such as in Nevada, Reid's home state. Latinos are about 12-15 percent of likely voters there.

"For Democrats it is critical they can deliver if they want to continue nurturing the support they want from this community," said Clarissa Martinez De Castro, National Council of La Raza immigration and national campaigns director.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100429/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_immigration_politics

Although I'd like to believe this is true, it may just be a ploy for 0bummer to later say that public opinion compelled him to address the issue likely after the amnesty demonstrations.

If it is true then amnesty will be even more difficult to pass in 2011.

ItsTime
04-29-2010, 06:28 PM
Dems are going to lose 100 seats. Then they can blame the Reps for not doing immigration reform right before the 2012 elections.

Typical progressive strategy they are throwing the immigrants under the bus to try to win 2012 election.

Southern Man
04-29-2010, 06:33 PM
Huh? It appears that there might be a vote on amnesty according to some of the Dem senators:


Senate Democratic leaders said on Thursday they are serious about having a vote on immigration this year.

Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and other Democrats made that pledge as they unveiled their outline of an immigration reform plan, which has been widely viewed as a political exercise to help Reid and other Democrats with Hispanic voters, a growing electoral bloc.

Democratic strategists say the issue is not a clear winner like the Wall Street reform bill; Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), the plan’s primary author, acknowledged that dealing with an estimated 10.8 million illegal residents is “morally complex” and “politically explosive.”

Even so, Democrats see it as more divisive for the Republican Party, which is under pressure from “tea party” conservatives to be tough on illegal immigrants but also does not want to lose Hispanic voters.

Schumer insisted a bill could get done this year despite widespread skepticism on and off the Hill that the divisive issue can be tackled.

“In the past several weeks, pundits and columnists, reporters have almost all been saying the prospects for comprehensive immigration reform looked week. I completely disagree,” Schumer said.

Lawmakers downplayed politics and challenged Republicans to help them fix “a broken system,” taking a similar approach to the argument they used to persuade GOP lawmakers to begin debate on Wall Street reform.

“What I say to my Republican colleagues: work with us to fix this broken system, secure our borders and do other things that we’ve got to do, don’t just say no,” Reid said at a press conference late Thursday.

Reid emphasized that Schumer had put together his proposal after “months” of negotiations with Republicans.

“Those negotiations have been built on the bipartisan work of Senate colleagues in previous years,” Reid said, making reference to legislative pushes that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) made during George W. Bush’s presidency.

That line was similar to the argument Reid and other Democrats made in recent days by highlighting the contributions of Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) to the Wall Street reform bill.

In a bid to win GOP support, Democrats say they have made securing the nation’s borders the top priority in the bill.

The bill focuses on three areas: it would tighten security along the nation’s northern and southern borders; it would register illegal immigrants with the federal government and set them on a path to citizenship if they pay fines, learn English and stay out of criminal trouble; and it would crack down on employers who hire illegal workers.

“Our proposal will require the government to secure the border first before we adjust the status of a single person here illegally — just what many of our colleagues are saying on the other side of the aisle,” said Schumer, who insisted the border security proposals he is advancing are tougher than those considered during Bush’s tenure.

Schumer also highlighted a proposal to implement a nationwide worker verification program, which would require every worker to carry a national identification card with biometric information within six years.


That proposal has already drawn fire from the American Civil Liberties Union but Schumer said it is essential to stem the tide of illegal workers.

“Our proposal recognizes that no matter what we do on the border, we’ll only succeed in dramatically reducing future illegal immigration by creating an employment verification system that holds employers accountable for knowingly hiring illegal workers,” he said.

The ACLU panned the proposal in a press statement earlier in the day, saying it would “usher government into the very center of our lives.”

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said in an earlier interview that it was not realistic to expect the federal government to completely secure the border with Mexico.

“It’s a challenge beyond description to say we’re going to stop every single truck and car and to make sure they’re not harboring illegal immigrants,” Durbin said. “But we can commit ourselves and this bill does to dramatically increasing the resources in that effort to show we’re serious about it.”

Some immigration groups greeted the legislative framework warily because of the strict employment verification measure and other restrictions on immigrants but acknowledged it as an important first step.

“The proposal revealed today is in part the result of more than a year of bi-partisan negotiations and represents a possible path forward on immigration reform,” Ali Noorani, executive director of Reform Immigration for America.

“This framework is not there yet,” Noorani added.

Reid said that he expected President Barack Obama to fully support the effort to pass comprehensive immigration reform, despite comments from the president Wednesday that some in the media interpreted as a splash of cold water on the idea.

“I don't want us to do something just for the sake of politics that doesn't solve the problem,” Obama told reporters Wednesday night aboard Air Force One.

A Democratic source close to the White House said the president was completely supportive, pointing to a statement Obama issued Thursday.

“The proposal outlined today in the Senate is a very important step in the process of fixing our nation’s broken immigration system,” Obama said.

Some liberal groups have called for more involvement from the president on the issue.

“The other player that has to come to the front and center is the White House,” said Angela Kelley, vice president for immigration policy at the Center for American Progress.

Earlier in the day, Durbin said Obama could help bring Republicans on board.

“I think the White House can help us with this,” Durbin said. “I don’t know if they’re inclined to but I think they can help us by finding those Republicans who are willing to step up and tackle a challenging issue.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who had been negotiating with Schumer on the issue, pulled back in recent days, voicing frustration about the prospect of Democrats moving an immigration bill ahead of energy reform.

Schumer has since met with other Republicans. He met with Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) on Thursday, who voiced interest in the framework’s labor provisions, Schumer said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/95231-democrats-pledge-to-move-toward-a-2010-vote-on-immigration

Lots of conflicting reports are out there.

May the Dems will push for a vote without support from 0bummer?

Stay tuned...

Vessol
04-29-2010, 06:40 PM
And they'll lose. And they'll embolden Republicans to create more laws which increase the police state, under the guise of "immigration reform".

ItsTime
04-29-2010, 06:50 PM
Dems are going to lose 100 seats. Then they can blame the Reps for not doing immigration reform right before the 2012 elections.

Typical progressive strategy they are throwing the immigrants under the bus to try to win 2012 election.


And they'll lose. And they'll embolden Republicans to create more laws which increase the police state, under the guise of "immigration reform".

Exactly.

paulitics
04-29-2010, 07:43 PM
Dems are going to lose 100 seats. Then they can blame the Reps for not doing immigration reform right before the 2012 elections.

Typical progressive strategy they are throwing the immigrants under the bus to try to win 2012 election.

I don't think they have the votes to do it, or they would do it tomorrow. They obviously don't care about elections, or Obamacare would have never happened after the American people stood up and said no.

There is another reason, perhaps Cap and Trade is more destructive to America, and they want to steamroll that before they run out of time. Cap and trade will also hurt them immensely in the polls, but they still want to go ahead with it.