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terlinguatx
10-10-2007, 09:25 PM
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devil21
10-10-2007, 09:30 PM
He is in DC so much it's kinda surprising he doesn't arrange more things in the DC area. A tour of Mount Vernon or Gunston Hall with supporters?

bbachtung
10-10-2007, 09:31 PM
Not the Lincoln Memorial; RP is not aiming to become a dictator.

UtahApocalypse
10-10-2007, 09:32 PM
Ron Paul Riders will arrive in D.C. the week of Christmas. We want to have a large rally at the Jefferson Memorial when we get there. If anyone can help with setting this part of our journey up please let us know.

terlinguatx
10-10-2007, 09:34 PM
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recess
10-10-2007, 09:34 PM
Yeah not the Lincoln Memorial. Jefferson Memorial would be much more appropriate.

mweldon
10-10-2007, 09:37 PM
Jefferson memorial all the way...

I've stood in that hallowed monument and read his famous quote around the inside of the ceiling.... nothing would be more fitting for Ron Paul.

I'd be there with my family in a heart beat...

How would we get something like this going??

mw

0zzy
10-10-2007, 09:38 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/2/2c/Jefferson_Memorial.jpg

Think it's big enough?
And it's hard to access, sorta farther away from everything else.
But the symbolism rocks.

terlinguatx
10-10-2007, 09:39 PM
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MGreen
10-10-2007, 09:41 PM
Jefferson monument would be the best, but it is kinda tucked away and there isn't all that much space. I'd say the next choice would just be the area around the Washington monument. Not sure where the "stage" would be, but the hill is pretty large.

Definitely not Lincoln memorial. Paul would not agree with that.

And if we can name our dream place to hold a rally, I'd go with the Madison household. The view from the estate is amazing. If only it wasn't in the proverbial middle of nowhere.

terlinguatx
10-10-2007, 09:42 PM
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Bradley in DC
10-10-2007, 09:42 PM
I guarantee you we will be avoiding the Lincoln memorial.

There is a monument (http://www.nps.gov/gemm/) to George Mason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason) now though, that would be very cool.

Paul4Prez
10-10-2007, 09:42 PM
You need to check the scheduling requirements. The original organizers of the Philadelphia rally were considering DC as well, but the lead time for rally permits was too long.

Ron Paul Fan
10-10-2007, 09:44 PM
Let's hold it at the Liberty Bell Center. For Liberty!!!!!!!! DING! DING! DING!

terlinguatx
10-10-2007, 09:48 PM
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UtahApocalypse
10-10-2007, 09:49 PM
Is there anyone willing to take on setting up this event?

terlinguatx
10-10-2007, 09:55 PM
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bbachtung
10-10-2007, 10:14 PM
Ah the irony of needing a rally permit to gather at the Jefferson Memorial . . .

I believe that the water feature at the Washington Monument is called the Reflecting Pool.

Bradley in DC
10-10-2007, 10:23 PM
I believe that the water feature at the Washington Monument is called the Reflecting Pool.

I wasn't sure if he meant that or the Tidal Basin.

ronpaulhawaii
10-10-2007, 11:26 PM
I hope all of you are planning on going to the Veterans Day Rally in Philly. That is supposed to be the first mega rally of the grassroots. I would find the thread but the search button is missing again (oh, the irony).

http://www.ronpaulforumpa.com/smf/ (it came back, the rascal)

As someone mentioned the permitting for DC mega-rallies is a very involved process (and I don't think RP should have to spend the time organizing such) A mega rally in DC would probably be better in the spring. The logistics of a wintertime rally is something to consider. The stage would have to be protected and any potential musicians would have to be kept warm. The chances of nasty weather might make for an thin/wet/shivering crowd. DC in the spring is beautiful

Dj talked about a mega-rally for the end of our ride. I don't imagine it is practical and have kept my mouth shut about it, (I don't enjoy cat herding). However, there are other riders starting to talk about hooking up with us (starting from FL) and finishing the trip. It would be killer if more and more riders joined as we approached DC. It would absolutely rock to have a mob of riders the last few miles.

The symbolism is why our ride starts at the Santa Monica Pier and ends at the Jefferson Memorial. It would be great to have some people there to meet us (but, I don't enjoy cat herding so am just throwing it out there.)

and sign a pledge dang it

:D

Travis
10-10-2007, 11:31 PM
This would be awesome. It could be one for the history books. I would fly from AZ if this happens!

terlinguatx
10-10-2007, 11:49 PM
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pazzo83
10-10-2007, 11:52 PM
Jefferson monument would be the best, but it is kinda tucked away and there isn't all that much space. I'd say the next choice would just be the area around the Washington monument. Not sure where the "stage" would be, but the hill is pretty large.

Definitely not Lincoln memorial. Paul would not agree with that.

And if we can name our dream place to hold a rally, I'd go with the Madison household. The view from the estate is amazing. If only it wasn't in the proverbial middle of nowhere.

Aww c'mon, Montpelier, Orange County isn't THAT out there, its only about 40 miles from RIC and 40 from C'ville, about 1.5 hrs from DC.

ronpaulhawaii
10-11-2007, 12:07 AM
Didn't think about the weather. Does it snow/rain alot? I'm from Texas so it didn't really occur to me. However, I don't think it'd be a huge problem. Spring is too late because the key primaries start in early January. Definitely should hold a spring rally though if he's nominated/or decides to run for a third party post.

http://weather.msn.com/daily_averages.aspx?wealocations=wc:USDC0001&weai=12

orenbus
10-11-2007, 12:46 AM
We don't need the official campaign to start this, lets just start an Eventful. They linked it from the official campaign so we could demand him in different places:

http://eventful.com/calendars/C0-001-000071019-7/events

this sounds like something A LOT of us would want :D

Matt Collins
10-11-2007, 10:16 AM
I'm from Florida... I'm sorry, but who the HELL wants to go to Washington, DC in the winter?!?!!?

scbissler
10-11-2007, 10:20 AM
Christmas isn't really winter! I think this is great, my family would make the trip.

UtahApocalypse
10-11-2007, 10:31 AM
Well with or without a crowd the Ron Paul Riders will be arriving at the Jefferson Memorial. Would be great to have more riders join in at that point, and people there to welcome us.

As to weather, yes it may be crappy. But we can't wait until spring. Primaries are the deadline and that keeps slipping closer as it is.

Primbs
10-11-2007, 10:54 AM
I can get a permit for the Jefferson Memorial. There is parking at the Jefferson memorial.

Primbs
10-11-2007, 12:39 PM
Washington D.C. has great weather in december. Usually just a jacket, hat, some gloves and it should be fine.

terlinguatx
10-11-2007, 12:56 PM
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mavtek
10-11-2007, 12:58 PM
Why not early in December? Before Christmas? Around the 15th or so?

terlinguatx
10-11-2007, 01:07 PM
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Matt Collins
10-11-2007, 01:46 PM
Washington D.C. has great weather in december. Usually just a jacket, hat, some gloves and it should be fine.I'm from Florida. That's too much clothing! :(

UtahApocalypse
10-11-2007, 01:50 PM
Why not early in December? Before Christmas? Around the 15th or so?

The Ron Paul Riders will arrive X-Mas eve.

constituent
10-11-2007, 01:52 PM
All Washington has is monuments, museums. False idols really, shrines to ourselves.

If we have to converge on American shrines, why not Graceland? That's a statement.

kylejack
10-11-2007, 01:53 PM
All Washington has is monuments, museums. False idols really, shrines to ourselves.

If we have to converge on American shrines, why not Graceland? That's a statement.

Hahahaha....NO.

hopeforamerica
10-11-2007, 02:01 PM
I'm from Florida. That's too much clothing! :(

You wouldn't put on a hat and gloves for Ron Paul :eek:

USAFCapt
10-11-2007, 04:27 PM
lets do it, i'll try to attend

Chrispy
10-11-2007, 04:38 PM
I'm way down for this. There haven't been many RP events near where i live. If it's in DC then i could get at leased 10 Army folks to roll down there with me.

Jared Callanan
10-11-2007, 05:06 PM
Im there.

Matt Collins
10-11-2007, 05:36 PM
You wouldn't put on a hat and gloves for Ron Paul :eek:

HA. Actually I would. But I'm poor currently and can't afford to travel.

DjLoTi
10-11-2007, 05:48 PM
So are people really liking this idea?

ronpaulhawaii
10-11-2007, 05:56 PM
Guys. I love this enthusiasm, I hate to be a spoilsport but here is a msg from a friend who knows a bit about rallies and such in DC

"FIRST, you need a 4 month lead time (minimum). THEN there are details to be worked out with the local cops and possibly state and other agencies as well. It's a nightmare of red tape."

If I remember correctly, when this idea was first proposed months ago, the logistics made it impractical. Plus everyone and their mother rallies in DC. It wouldn't be newsworthy unless you got like a million people there, in the winter.

Now, some of you may think it's fine to spend months of planning for something like this in the hope that the WINTER weather will co-operate, but I doubt you are going to get the kind of numbers necessary to help the campaign. And did I mention that it is in the WINTER?

If someone wants to attempt to herd a million cats for a mega rally in that time of year, power to you. I suggest, however, it should be in Texas, or Florida, or anywhere you are not going to have to spend mega-bucks keeping the entertainment warm and the staging safe. How about lauderdale for Spring Break? The Big Easy for Mardi Gras? Lake Jackson just because? The weather is a big risk for outdoor events, MINIMIZE RISK!

Furthermore, The mega rally at the Liberty Bell in the birthpalce of The Constitution on Veterans Day is truly one of the better ideas the grassroots has come up with. This is on, permitted and RP is already booked to speak. The symbolism is classic. All of you that are willing to come to DC in the winter would be much better off going there. Go give Semetary a hand in his forum for this. Learn about the logistical challanges to be faced. Then see if you want to propose another one. Read the Philly Rally threads find out how much work is involved in herding thousands of cats. Then a DC rally in the spring will be a success.

Sorry for the rant but... well just, but

Yours in Liberty

m

Marshall
10-11-2007, 05:56 PM
I'm in for it. And if people get cold, theres always the bonfire to warm them up :p

constituent
10-11-2007, 05:56 PM
yea, i think everyone decided on GRACELAND if I remember correctly.

ronpaulhawaii
10-11-2007, 06:13 PM
Dj, sorry I didn't see you post before ranting. I know what you are getting at and appreciate everything you are doing, but a mega rally is out of the question for our finish at the Jefferson Memorial, in the WINTER ;)

We would much rather have bikers rallying to join us as we approach the city, and if there is a modest, spontaneous rally when we finally get off the bikes. We would be honored

Thanks

Primbs
10-11-2007, 09:50 PM
I have been to rally in the winter on the snow at the Washington Monument. There is a raised stage at the Washington monument. About two hundred of us were there and we made a snowman with American flags. It was a free republic rally.

It can work out ok. You don't need that much set up time. We need a microphone with speakers. You just show up.

ronpaulhawaii
10-11-2007, 11:06 PM
I have been to rally in the winter on the snow at the Washington Monument. There is a raised stage at the Washington monument. About two hundred of us were there and we made a snowman with American flags. It was a free republic rally.

It can work out ok. You don't need that much set up time. We need a microphone with speakers. You just show up.

That sounds great, a simple set, no big deal. The snowman thing must have been fun.

I was mainly reacting to the title of this thread when I know the Philly Rally needs all the support and attendance we can muster. Having two massive rallies, in virtually the same area, a little over a month apart seemed silly.

If people want to have a winter mega rally, that would be fantastic. I just think there are much better places than DC to have it. I imagine Presidents Week would be a good slot and allow enough time to plan such an animal. And the western states might appreciate something a bit closer to them. Plus it would show that the rEVOLution is large nationwide

DC in the spring..., now that would be cool!

Thanks Primbs:)

Primbs
10-11-2007, 11:24 PM
We have to define mega rally. The park service handles rallies all the time. They are patrolling the monuments routinely.

They just like to know who is there and why. Usually they could care less who is holding the rally. For them it is another day another protest. They probably hate reading paper work as much as we hate filling out the paper work.

Parking is usually a hassle by the Washington monument although winter is the best time for that. A long as you dress up and the speakers are good people will have a good time.

I will try to check on this on Friday. Very few people hold rallies in the winter.




Here are some pics.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065186125040384252ZRxdCl

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065186017040384252rQgiPx

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065185331040384252XmpVrh

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065185277040384252nRqAex

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065185152040384252vuwiby

What they get worried about are counter protests.

ronpaulhawaii
10-12-2007, 11:07 AM
We have to define mega rally...


...If we could attract 100,000 or even 1,000,000 it'd change the country... . JEFFERSON WOULD BE IDEAL BUT THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR EVEN 10,000 THERE.

I think anything publicized to attract these kind of numbers is a mega-rally. Mutilple bands needing extensive backline stage dear. That kind of thing...

IMO if a rally is publicized like that we will get into the red tape nightmare.


Jefferson memorial all the way...

I've stood in that hallowed monument and read his famous quote around the inside of the ceiling.... nothing would be more fitting for Ron Paul.

I'd be there with my family in a heart beat...

How would we get something like this going??

mw

Find a place to collect and store data. Something like this;
http://www.ronpaulforumpa.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=e53b3d4b4de84f1fd8cdd24c993d40 3d&board=40.0

You might be able to work something in here
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=38

If this is tied to our ride in any way you could do that here http://ronpaulriders.com/forum/index.php?board=11.0

We are currently re-working these boards for "ride mode" and building an "Events" section where stuff like this will be moved too.

Start a thread here in Grassroots Central to attract active members to help in this effort. Contact your MU's, and anywhere you can think there will be people willing to help.

Then, jus do it.:eek: ;)


http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/2/2c/Jefferson_Memorial.jpg

...the symbolism rocks.

:D Yeah, this is one thing we all agree on.


The park service handles rallies all the time. They are patrolling the monuments routinely.

They just like to know who is there and why. Usually they could care less who is holding the rally. For them it is another day another protest. They probably hate reading paper work as much as we hate filling out the paper work.

Parking is usually a hassle by the Washington monument although winter is the best time for that. A long as you dress up and the speakers are good people will have a good time.

I will try to check on this on Friday. Very few people hold rallies in the winter.
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Luckily, us RP people are a hardy breed. Thanks again, Primbs! You da man:)

Primbs
10-12-2007, 11:15 AM
We have to define mega rally. The park service handles rallies all the time. They are patrolling the monuments routinely.

They just like to know who is there and why. Usually they could care less who is holding the rally. For them it is another day another protest. They probably hate reading paper work as much as we hate filling out the paper work.

Parking is usually a hassle by the Washington monument although winter is the best time for that. A long as you dress up and the speakers are good people will have a good time.

I will try to check on this on Friday. Very few people hold rallies in the winter.




Here are some pics.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065186125040384252ZRxdCl

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065186017040384252rQgiPx

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065185331040384252XmpVrh

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065185277040384252nRqAex

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1065185152040384252vuwiby

What they get worried about are counter protests.

Usually the weather is much better in D.C. This was a worst case scenario. However, Iowa and New Hampshire are in January with some snow.