View Full Version : GOP candidate, wants microchips in illegal immigrants
EndDaFed
04-28-2010, 05:25 PM
Third District GOP congressional hopefuls called for more R&D on illegal immigration – as in round-up and deport.
Speaking at a Tama County Republican forum Monday, six candidates for the GOP nomination to face seven –term Democratic Rep. Leonard Boswell opposed amnesty for illegal aliens and called for tougher enforcement of border security.
“I think we should catch ’em, we should document ’em, make sure we know where they are and where they are going,” said Pat Bertroche, an Urbandale physician. “I actually support micro-chipping them. I can micro-chip my dog so I can find it. Why can’t I micro-chip an illegal?
“That’s not a popular thing to say, but it’s a lot cheaper than building a fence they can tunnel under,” Bertroche said.
There was general agreement the U.S. should build a fence along the southern border, something Boswell also supports.
http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/covering-iowa-politics/2010/04/27/3rd-district-gop-hopefuls-take-tough-stances-on-immigration
catdd
04-28-2010, 05:30 PM
Does he expect them to just line up to get their chips?
Anti Federalist
04-28-2010, 05:32 PM
Fuck me, this is deliberate.
Couch the terms of the debate in such a way that it amounts to "when are you going to stop beating your wife?".
I'm a nationalist, I've stated that many times.
You cannot have a nation without a border.
And between this lunacy and just letting the entire world flood in, there is a workable sane center.
ItsTime
04-28-2010, 05:35 PM
It does not take much to be a "candidate"
dannno
04-28-2010, 05:37 PM
This is why I've been dedicating a lot of my time the last couple days or so to help educate people here why we need to be wary about the solutions being presented to us regarding illegal immigration.
There are people here who will stop at nothing to get rid of illegal immigrants, just like the neocons who wanted to stop at nothing to fight Islamic Terrorism.
Let's try and keep the solutions we promote Constitutional and liberty oriented.
EndDaFed
04-28-2010, 05:37 PM
It does not take much to be a "candidate"
Still the same. Watch this meme take off.
ItsTime
04-28-2010, 05:41 PM
Still the same. Watch this meme take off.
Yup, while they completely ignore real threads and violence by the protesters.
edit: threats* not threads.
EndDaFed
04-28-2010, 05:45 PM
Yup, while they completely ignore real threads and violence by the protesters.
Take your demonization out of my thread please.
ItsTime
04-28-2010, 05:51 PM
Take your demonization out of my thread please.
Ok no prob, but who am I demonizing?
pcosmar
04-28-2010, 05:56 PM
Who can't see it coming?
They will just chip citizens. For your security of course.
:(
Danke
04-28-2010, 05:59 PM
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slothman
04-28-2010, 08:46 PM
@ItsTime
Why didn't you just change the post manually?
paulitics
04-28-2010, 09:05 PM
Anybody remember those MSM articles a few years ago, about Haliiburton detention centers being built supposedly in the event of an illegal immigration?
RM918
04-28-2010, 09:24 PM
If you have an illegal immigrant and you know about it, shouldn't you deport them anyway? If you just do nothing, they can't be very illegal.
Vessol
04-28-2010, 09:28 PM
I say we chip everyone. We need to protect our nation from the very real dangers of illegals.
ronpaulhawaii
04-28-2010, 09:54 PM
Has anyone raised the possibility that some of the hysteria is being instigated to ram more ill-thought legislation through...
torchbearer
04-28-2010, 09:54 PM
Oh! I have a brilliant idea!
Since it will be hard to chip all the illegal people, why don't we just require all legal people to get chips. That way, anyone who doesn't have one, we can then assume is illegal.
Problem solved you fascist loving freaks.
Vessol
04-28-2010, 09:54 PM
Has anyone raised the possibility that some of the hysteria is being instigated to ram more ill-thought legislation through...
That's been my opinion as well.
It's the big PPV wrestling show for the Republicans and the Democrats.
torchbearer
04-28-2010, 09:59 PM
I mean really. If a fucking mexican wants to buy land here, move here, produce here and live here. Why the fuck does he need anyone's permission?
can you tell your neighbor where they can move? what about you? are you somehow born with a right that supercedes the mexicans.. just because you were born in the fucking USA?
man, this shit is just fucking stupid. ;)
we shouldn't act superior to other people. any person on this planet has as much right to live here as we do. we don't own this fucking planet. if they aren't stealing, killing, are anything that involves negatively effecting someone else's right. leave them alone.
Stary Hickory
04-28-2010, 10:14 PM
Oh man why not tag their ears like they do on discovery channel while you are at it. This guy is nuts.
However maintaining our borders is a matter of national defense. We can't have a country without borders, and you cannot have borders without enforcing them.
Stary Hickory
04-28-2010, 10:18 PM
I mean really. If a fucking mexican wants to buy land here, move here, produce here and live here. Why the fuck does he need anyone's permission?
can you tell your neighbor where they can move? what about you? are you somehow born with a right that supercedes the mexicans.. just because you were born in the fucking USA?
man, this shit is just fucking stupid. ;)
we shouldn't act superior to other people. any person on this planet has as much right to live here as we do. we don't own this fucking planet. if they aren't stealing, killing, are anything that involves negatively effecting someone else's right. leave them alone.
Oh god this lame. If these same people could not just willy nilly use the government to pick my pocket then you might have a point. Adding desperate poor immigrants to the voting masses is just feeding the demogauges. If Mexico defacto moves its population here with the current corrupt government, we will be living in the worse kind of police state.
When the government can no longer confiscate my things threaten my life for any kind of reason then come back and talk to me. You want open borders than make it safe to do so.
torchbearer
04-28-2010, 10:31 PM
Oh god this lame. If these same people could not just willy nilly use the government to pick my pocket then you might have a point. Adding desperate poor immigrants to the voting masses is just feeding the demogauges. If Mexico defacto moves its population here with the current corrupt government, we will be living in the worse kind of police state.
When the government can no longer confiscate my things threaten my life for any kind of reason then come back and talk to me. You want open borders than make it safe to do so.
did you see the qualifier in there? you aren't advocating the position that all people here working should stay.
tropicangela
04-28-2010, 10:49 PM
Oh man why not tag their ears like they do on discovery channel while you are at it. This guy is nuts.
Seriously. What's to stop an illegal alien (human) from taking a knife and digging out a microchip?
slothman
04-29-2010, 01:52 AM
@Stary Hickory
So you wan't the gov't to prevent immigrates from coming into America, that makes sense.
You also want a particular landowner to prevent immigrants, or anyone from coming onto his land, that makes sense too.
You don't want a particular landowner to allow an immigrant to come onto his land though? ::shrug::
If the landowner can prevent someone from coming on than doesn't that mean he can allow someone?
EDIT:
I don't think illegal immigrants should have chips or anything else.
I don't even like it when people let out of jail have GPS locaters.
moostraks
04-29-2010, 04:45 AM
Has anyone raised the possibility that some of the hysteria is being instigated to ram more ill-thought legislation through...
THat is exactly what this dog and pony show is all about. This will be a brilliant idea (eventually) that will be sold on many fronts such as designating legal healthcare recipients and expediting and maintaining healthcare records. There is a reason healthcare came before the immigration issue. The writing was on the wall but those who complained about the course we are headed upon were ridiculed and marginalized.
This is a beta test to see how much support can be garnered. You present it as a ludicrous response but then tweak the idea until it becomes a 'reasonable' answer to the "problem". As TB said how the heck are you going to chip illegals when chipping legal folks would be much easier. Public perception is irrelevant as has been apparent through the last few years of legislation much to the angry uproar of the citizenry. So what can be done to stop them???
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