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Baptist
04-28-2010, 01:54 PM
Is this from a movie for something?

YouTube - 4409 -- Gingers are the problem! Born Free? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0euv-P7mQ)

pcosmar
04-28-2010, 02:05 PM
Is this from a movie for something?



Do you find it disturbing ?

MelissaCato
04-28-2010, 02:30 PM
OMG I find it disturbing. They have the American Flag on those shirts. :eek:

ClayTrainor
04-28-2010, 02:34 PM
Yes, that was quite a disturbing video... I wonder what the original intention of this footage was.

torchbearer
04-28-2010, 02:40 PM
Yes, that was quite a disturbing video... I wonder what the original intention of this footage was.

to give you an idea of the freedoms you have. the freedom to have government sanctioned thugs kick in your door anytime and fuck you up. shoot your dog- or whatever they want.

pcosmar
04-28-2010, 02:46 PM
Yes, that was quite a disturbing video... I wonder what the original intention of this footage was.

A Wake Up call,
A Reality Check.
A Warning.
etc.

ClayTrainor
04-28-2010, 02:54 PM
It seems some capital was invested in the filming of this project. The production values are way above what your average internet warriors can come up with.

If the 4409 team shot this footage themselves, than they have some serious talent. If not, than I'm curious if this was shot for some sort of movie or ad campaign, or something.

ClayTrainor
04-28-2010, 02:56 PM
to give you an idea of the freedoms you have. the freedom to have government sanctioned thugs kick in your door anytime and fuck you up. shoot your dog- or whatever they want.


A Wake Up call,
A Reality Check.
A Warning.
etc.

Yea, definitely. It sent a chill down my spine.

surf
04-28-2010, 03:08 PM
President Cartman?

(or Bush/Obama?)

RedStripe
04-28-2010, 03:09 PM
Taken from this:

M.I.A, Born Free on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/11219730?hd=1)

..PAUL4PRES..
04-28-2010, 03:10 PM
Its a new video from an artist called MIA. I dont know if you all remember paper planes from Pineapple express.

amy31416
04-28-2010, 03:11 PM
Quite disturbing. 4409 will probably get banned from YT for it...I suggest mirroring it.

noxagol
04-28-2010, 03:12 PM
Also from Half-Life 2.

http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/images/promoimages/d/dime/when_aliens_attack/half_life_2.jpg

These are Combine soldiers, transhumans made by the Combine, which is an invading alien organization that has created a harsh police state on Earth. They also conduct raids like this in the game. Very very similar.

JeNNiF00F00
04-28-2010, 03:38 PM
Is this from a movie for something?

YouTube - 4409 -- Gingers are the problem! Born Free? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0euv-P7mQ)

Thats whats gonna happen when the police state comes after us "domestic terrorists" and puts us in the camps.

michaelwise
04-28-2010, 03:41 PM
I believe the civil rights laws took care of that problem happening again.

pcosmar
04-28-2010, 03:42 PM
I believe the civil rights laws took care of that problem happening again.

:confused:

libertygrl
04-28-2010, 04:02 PM
I think I was more disturbed by seeing footage of naked fat people having sex. Geez...a warning of the video's graphic content would have been appreciated!

Reason
04-28-2010, 04:07 PM
http://barefootgardener.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978200707&grpId=3659174697244816

BuddyRey
04-28-2010, 04:22 PM
It's a disturbing video, but still a must-see. Very powerful.

DAFTEK
04-28-2010, 04:23 PM
Apperantly that video was made by MIA the singer and it has to do with this, sounds like she is pissed...

YouTube - Countdown To The Final War 2010 (Several Weeks MAX)! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdGDICkJHH8)

RonPaulwillWin
04-28-2010, 04:33 PM
Also from Half-Life 2.

http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/images/promoimages/d/dime/when_aliens_attack/half_life_2.jpg

These are Combine soldiers, transhumans made by the Combine, which is an invading alien organization that has created a harsh police state on Earth. They also conduct raids like this in the game. Very very similar.

Ron Paul is our real life Gordon Freeman :D:D

MelissaCato
04-28-2010, 05:03 PM
Apperantly that video was made by MIA the singer and it has to do with this, sounds like she is pissed...

YouTube - Countdown To The Final War 2010 (Several Weeks MAX)! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdGDICkJHH8)

OMG I can't stop crying about those children shot and burned.

That won't ever happen in America will it ? Just someone tell it will never. K.

DapperDan
04-28-2010, 05:33 PM
Ron Paul is our real life Gordon Freeman :D:D

quick, give him a crowbar stat!

pcosmar
04-28-2010, 05:35 PM
OMG I can't stop crying about those children shot and burned.

That won't ever happen in America will it ? Just someone tell it will never. K.

Support your local militia.
It can happen here.

ever hear of Waco?
:mad:

Danke
04-28-2010, 05:45 PM
OMG I can't stop crying about those children shot and burned.

That won't ever happen in America will it ? Just someone tell it will never. K.

They are just combating Hamas-linked terrorists in Gaza. Israel and the United States have a special relationship.

Baptist
04-28-2010, 09:21 PM
It seems some capital was invested in the filming of this project. The production values are way above what your average internet warriors can come up with.

If the 4409 team shot this footage themselves, than they have some serious talent. If not, than I'm curious if this was shot for some sort of movie or ad campaign, or something.


That's what I was thinking when I saw it lol. It looked like it was filmed outside of Yuma or Phoenix, which is 4409's stomping grounds. I was like, "man! 4409 is getting good with their vids!"

noxagol
04-28-2010, 09:36 PM
Ron Paul is our real life Gordon Freeman :D:D

Indeed!

Mach
04-28-2010, 10:57 PM
Bump

Shotdown1027
04-28-2010, 11:29 PM
Is this from a movie for something?

YouTube - 4409 -- Gingers are the problem! Born Free? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0euv-P7mQ)

http://www.youtube.com/user/timminchin?blend=1&ob=4#p/a/u/1/KVN_0qvuhhw

Only Tim Minchin can issue a reply to this video.

fuzzybekool
04-28-2010, 11:31 PM
Shocking, and quite possible a scenario.

evilfunnystuff
04-29-2010, 09:59 AM
Wow very intense video.

I was surprised to see this was an MIA video.

ScoutsHonor
04-29-2010, 10:23 AM
Rumor has it that it's a leaked FEMA training film.

:(

Dreamofunity
04-29-2010, 10:49 AM
Rumor has it that it's a leaked FEMA training film.

:(

Not sure if you're serious... but it's not.

It's far too artistic in its merits, especially with it beings gingers, them fighting back, and fat people fucking. It's an artistic statement, that is all.

AdamT
04-29-2010, 11:26 AM
Here is the original video.
http://miauk.com/

DAFTEK
04-30-2010, 06:33 AM
Rumor has it that it's a leaked FEMA training film.

:(

Dude, WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT RUMOR? In your little paranoid head? Stop spreading nonsense!
Read the rest of the thread before you pull stuff out of your ass! :mad:

The video was made by this artist!
Mathangi "Maya" Arulpragasam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.I.A._(artist)

http://indieuniverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/mia.jpg

Full video is HERE (http://www.miauk.com/)





http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/2010/04/26/finding-meaning-in-m-i-a-s-born-free-video/ (http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/2010/04/26/finding-meaning-in-m-i-a-s-born-free-video/)

(http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/2010/04/26/finding-meaning-in-m-i-a-s-born-free-video/)Finding meaning in M.I.A.’s ‘Born Free’ video
By LEOR GALIL

The video for M.I.A.’s new single, “Born Free,” has been online a little more than 24 hours, and it’s upped the stakes for NSFW videos. The video was banned by YouTube (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/mia-video-banned-by-youtube_1140378) and is causing quite a ruckus across the Internet.
A lot of the online conversation is focused on the video’s meaning. Some think it has a daring political message about police states (http://www.spinner.com/2010/04/26/m-i-a-born-free-video/). Some find it “possibly meaningless (http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2010/04/mia_releases_vi.php).”
What’s the real answer? Well, here it is:
It’s whatever you want it to be.
What’s so brilliant about the video is that, while it’s got a fair share of graphic violence, you can deem it whatever you like. M.I.A. and director Romain Gavras just let the video speak for itself without hitting the viewer over the head with their idea of the exact meaning of the story. In a sense, it’s fairly ambiguous.
You can take a peek at the video below. And yes, it’s really “Not Safe For Work.” Just warning you:
Well, I’ve certainly got my own spin on the video. I’m tempted to agree more with those who believe the video’s got it’s fair share of political meaning. Let’s take a little peek at some screenshots, shall we?
http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/bornfree1.jpg (http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/bornfree1.jpg)

The video opens with a set of SWAT teams preparing for some type of show-off.
The atmosphere: Foreboding.
One of the team members appears reluctant, even anxious, at the start of the video. We’re given the impression that the actions of these individuals are part of a hive mind, that whatever will happen in the rest of the video, individual choice may very well be left by the wayside in the sheer moment of it all. In many ways, the vehicles rolling through town mirror movie depictions of helicopters flying into battle during the Vietnam War. The scenery in passing is almost too calm, as if waiting to explode when the armored men arrive at their target.
And it does:
http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/bornfree2.jpg (http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/bornfree2.jpg)

Without warning, residents of the nameless apartment building are brutally beaten, sometimes for merely being an obstacle. Images of residents doing… well, private matters brings an almost paranoid thought to the forefront: It hardly maters what you’re doing as much as it does where you are. The images are meant to remind us of aggressive tactics taken by police everywhere in the name of whatever reasoning is doled out. Basically, no matter what reasons are given for aggressive force, that will seem foreign by those affected by the actions in the moment.
The hunted is revealed:
http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/bornfree3.jpg (http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/bornfree3.jpg)
A redhead.
Specifically, redheads in general:
http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/bornfree4.jpg (http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/bornfree4.jpg)
This may be one of the more powerful moments of the video. It’s a twist on a familiar theme. But rather than the hunted being an “other,” those chased by the police state are part of what we consider the “majority.” Yet, redheads are also famously made fun of with the term, “gingers,” for reasons I still cannot quite understand: This video has an ingenious twist on the teasing nature redheads may encounter as children.
In these terms, the very nature of singling out members of our society for how they look seems downright silly. Being able to express this so spot on is a feat that none too many have achieved in these heady “fear of terrorism” times. Yet, this video gets the nature of paranoia, and flips the script.
Moreover, it also happens to deliver a solid critique of the fashion-focused hipsterisms in Western culture:
http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/BornFree5.jpg (http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/BornFree5.jpg)
This scene provides another awkward turn in the ever-evolving nature of glocal culture. In many ways, it questions the “rebellion” of dressing “alternative” without having any other “revolutionary” urges outside of the realm of clothing while confronting the very meaning of the rebellion apparel. The clothing in question: The keffiyah. In the video, the symbolism of the cloth is transplanted back to its original status: As an icon for Palestinian rebels. By doing this, it challenges the very nature of re-fashioning items of clothing into a subcultural style when the original nature is still easily accessible.
The video echoes many of the sentiments Thursday frontman Geoff Rickly mulled over when keffiyahs first became “all the rage” in 2008 (http://headbangersblog.mtv-q.mtvi.com/2008/09/08/guest-blog-power-violence-band-united-nations-frontman-geoff-rickly-urges-followers-to-drop-cameras-pick-up-rocks-get-active/):

We have been attacked repeatedly as a generation and as a demographic. We have been derided because of our looks and attitude. At the end of the Adbusters article, the writer, Douglas Haddow, tellingly concludes, “I take a look at one of the girls wearing a bright pink keffiyah and carrying a Polaroid camera and think, ‘If only we carried rocks instead of cameras, we’d look like revolutionaries.’ But instead we ignore the weapons that lie at our feet –oblivious to our own impending demise.”
Seeing this idea re-imagined and spun in a new light makes the Western fashion-based obsession with the keffiyah seem, well, silly.
Meanwhile, readhead rebellion murals on the streets re-imagine the political murals of Belfast for the fictitious world:
http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/BornFree6.jpg (http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/BornFree6.jpg)
The redheads are taken to a camp. Some are lined up, a la just about any war crime of the 20th Century.
Others are sent off to a field, given muted details the viewer – and, we assume, the persecuted redheads – can’t quite understand, and are made to run for their lives:
http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/BornFree7.jpg (http://trueslant.com/leorgalil/files/2010/04/BornFree7.jpg)
It’s a horror world where the redheads are hunted in a hybrid of real-life war and a vengeful game for the men in armor. It’s made to show the brutality of war and the weight some lives have in this world: Nothing but a few minutes of entertainment in some sick game.
It ends just as it began. Oddly serene, yet with a dreadful atmosphere lurking in the background.
Then again, this is all my spin on the video.
You don’t have to take my word as the ultimate authority (and please, don’t! Make up your own mind!), but the great thing about the video is it really reflects one’s thoughts on pop music and culture. It can be as vapid and pointless as you want it to be, but if you really want to give it a chance, the second viewing can be so much more rewarding.

BenIsForRon
04-30-2010, 07:16 AM
Damn, I can't stand that Paper Airplanes song, but I'm glad M.I.A put this out. It will get some people thinking about where stuff like patriot act is taking us.

DAFTEK
04-30-2010, 08:08 AM
Damn, I can't stand that Paper Airplanes song,


Hope this helps. ;)

YouTube - M.I.A. - Paper Planes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewRjZoRtu0Y)

M.I.A. gives Paper Planes deeper meaning with Kick Ass Song (http://repliderium.com/good-stuff/mia-paper-planes/)

posted on: August 23rd, 2008

I’m diggin’ this song Paper Planes by M.I.A. Catchy, has a sexy world beat kinda sound and the lyrics kick ass in a way that makes you think. It’s getting tons of airplay and the buzz on the net seems to suggest its stirring lots of discussion and maybe just a little bit of controversy. Love it.


My take on her lyrics is a satirical portrayal of the gangster thug mentality “all i wanna do is shoot you motherfuckers and take your damn money” and projecting that to the international scene and The War on Terror ®.
M.I.A (Mathangi “Maya” Arulpragasam) has what you might call a rather interesting past (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.I.A._%28artist%29). Not only was she raised in Sri Lanka amid the chaos of their 22 year civil war, she did so as the daughter of one of the founding member of the Tamil Tigers.

Maya says (http://www.tamilnation.org/diaspora/unitedkingdom/mia.htm):

“You can’t separate the world into two parts like that, good and evil. Terrorism is a method. But America has successfully tied all these pockets of independence struggles, revolutions and extremists into one big notion of terrorism. You can’t grab someone by the neck and choke them and then complain they’re kicking you. If you’re going around oppressing people, they will fight back…”
Paper planes middle verse;

“No one on the corner has swagger like us
Hit me on my banner, prepaid wireless
We pack and deliver like UPS trucks
Already going to hell just pumping that gas”
I see that as a well played swipe at the swagger of our “world dominance” ego’s in our western culture, our easy economy with instant text messaging and shipping cheap goods around the globe like its nothing, while it all goes to hell in a handbasket with oil being the golden ticket. We’re racing madly to ensure that we are the ones who get the very last drop of it. Damn the consequences. All we wanna do is send in soldiers to secure that precious oil. BANG BANG BANG and Cha-Ching! We collect the loot. If we don’t then the Russians or Chinese would do the same in our fucked up little world.

We’re all involved and we all have blood on our hands. Yes, all of us. Economic resource exploitation has its ugly side in order to allow us to drive around in our fancy cars, shop at malls, talk shit on cell phones and sit at our computers surfing internet porn. Oh, and build fighter jets and bombers; “If you come around here, I make ‘em all day - I get one down in a second if you wait”. We listen to our shitty pop on MTV, keeps tabs on Britney, Paris and the rest of the Hollywood train wreck brigade and get our world view via misrepresented soundbites on CNN and FOX and label (http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/05/01/bush-administration-designates-nelson-mandela-a-terrorist/) everyone (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18703580/) else (http://www.newser.com/story/5859/us-to-label-irans-elite-force-terrorists.html) as (http://www.newshounds.us/2006/04/12/make_sure_you_label_those_terrorists_as_muslim.php ) terrorists (http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/02/14/050214fa_fact6). Instead of watching that shit on Fox, read this (http://www.newshounds.us/).

I kinda think we owe M.I.A. a big fat thank you for injecting her oh so subtle yet powerfull and politically sarcastic undertones to her music. Unfortunately, in our super-size, drive thru, soundbite loving culture, it will fly right over the heads of the lowest common denominators who’ll be getting their panties tied up in a bunch thinking you’re somehow supporting terrorism because your different, because your brown and from a weird far off place and “Isn’t her dad a terrorist or something? Hiding in caves with Bin Laden? That’s what i think i heard.”
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