Fox News anchor on Arizona: It's Nazi Germany and the Antebellum South all over again

[low preference guy]

YouTube - Arizon Immigration Law Backlash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElcL282ehqs)

[John E]

The NY Post (also owned by Fox News' parent company Newscorp) had an opinion piece promoting Arizona's stance on upholding already existing federal laws that have been on the books for over 50 years now.

[sofia]

i love the Judge....but he's out to lunch on this one...

I hope Ron doesnt take the same position, cuz it would kill any chance he has in 2012

[torchbearer]

i love the Judge....but he's out to lunch on this one...

I hope Ron doesnt take the same position, cuz it would kill any chance he has in 2012

yeah, the judge is a big advocate of human liberty and the constitution. what a shmuck.

[torchbearer]

though, antebelum south was pro-immigration. that is how the big farmers got their labor force.

[sofia]

yeah, the judge is a big advocate of human liberty and the constitution. what a shmuck.

I dont see anything in the constitution guaranteeing the right to crash our borders and to stay here with immunity

[torchbearer]

I dont see anything in the constitution guaranteeing the right to crash our borders and to stay here with immunity

The constitution is written to tell the federal government what it can do- and the only thing it can do regarding immigration is to create a uniform standard for becoming a citizen.
oops.

[LibertarianfromGermany]

He said EAST Germany (GDR) not Nazi Germany.

[low preference guy]

i love the Judge....but he's out to lunch on this one...

I hope Ron doesnt take the same position, cuz it would kill any chance he has in 2012

If Ron runs, when it comes to immigration he will just say he is for ending birthright citizenship. You don't really get any more hardcore than that.

[sofia]

He said EAST Germany (GDR) not Nazi Germany.

Glad u noticed that.

Germans in the 1930's were actually free to move about as they pleased. Their taxes were also very light....budgets were balanced, private businesses thrived, and the German Mark under Hitler was issued interest-free....strongest currency in the world.

[ClayTrainor]

I'm growing more and more fond of the Judge every day.

[LibertarianfromGermany]

Glad u noticed that.

Germans in the 1930's were actually free to move about as they pleased. Their taxes were also very light....budgets were balanced, private businesses thrived, and the German Mark under Hitler was issued interest-free....strongest currency in the world.

yeah... no...

[ChaosControl]

Antebellum South? Awesome, I'm going to Arizona?
So are the Southern belles cute? All the nice dresses and clothing and various parties, not the trash like now.

Oh, you just mean the slavery crap? :( Ruin my hopes.

[John Taylor]

Antebellum South? Awesome, I'm going to Arizona?
So are the Southern belles cute? All the nice dresses and clothing and various parties, not the trash like now.

Oh, you just mean the slavery crap? :( Ruin my hopes.

I think the Judge here is a little confused, he appears to be refering to, not the antebellum south, but the reconstruction south destroyed by Lincoln's bayonets.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

If Ron runs, when it comes to immigration he will just say he is for ending birthright citizenship. You don't really get any more hardcore than that.

+1

[John Taylor]

+1

Ron is great, we wants to physically secure the border!

[ClayTrainor]

If Ron runs, when it comes to immigration he will just say he is for ending birthright citizenship. You don't really get any more hardcore than that.

Can you explain to me what exactly ending birthright citizenship means? I'm not too familiar with the term.

[sofia]

Can you explain to me what exactly ending birthright citizenship means? I'm not too familiar with the term.

It means that when some invading Mexican breeder drops her litter on US soil....the child is an automatic citizen

[silentshout]

I like the Judge. :) Good video.

[Lord Xar]

I think we should allow whomever to come here and work
I think we should allow these "new workers" to have as many kids as they want.
I think we should allow these people to speak any language, have any custom they want.
I think we should do away with borders completely. I mean, does the constitution actually even mention borders? If not, lets do away with them!!
I think you don't even have to work. You can just come and have kids, and put them thru schooling.
I think all these new faces can get on the lunch programs and get govt. aid.
I think we should allow these new people to drive cars without insurance.
I think we should give these people loans.
I think people who wait in line are suckers.

If you do not feel this way, obviously you are a nazi sympathizer...

I think in about 20 years, this country will not be the USA anymore.
I think I enjoy not thinking.

[John Taylor]

I think we should allow whomever to come here and work
I think we should allow these "new workers" to have as many kids as they want.
I think we should allow these people to speak any language, have any custom they want.
I think we should do away with borders completely. I mean, does the constitution actually even mention borders? If not, lets do away with them!!
I think you don't even have to work. You can just come and have kids, and put them thru schooling.
I think all these new faces can get on the lunch programs and get govt. aid.
I think we should allow these new people to drive cars without insurance.
I think we should give these people loans.
I think people who wait in line are suckers.

If you do not feel this way, obviously you are a nazi sympathizer...

I think in about 20 years, this country will not be the USA anymore.
I think I enjoy not thinking.

Bravo, hit the nail on its head.

[sofia]

I think we should allow whomever to come here and work
I think we should allow these "new workers" to have as many kids as they want.
I think we should allow these people to speak any language, have any custom they want.
I think we should do away with borders completely. I mean, does the constitution actually even mention borders? If not, lets do away with them!!
I think you don't even have to work. You can just come and have kids, and put them thru schooling.
I think all these new faces can get on the lunch programs and get govt. aid.
I think we should allow these new people to drive cars without insurance.
I think we should give these people loans.
I think people who wait in line are suckers.

If you do not feel this way, obviously you are a nazi sympathizer...

I think in about 20 years, this country will not be the USA anymore.
I think I enjoy not thinking.

I'm glad you've come to your senses.

Aint "Libertarianism" great? All we need to do is give these people some Ron Paul slim-jims written in Spanish and they'll all be voting for liberty candidates too. :rolleyes:

[ARealConservative]

It means that when some invading Mexican breeder drops her litter on US soil....the child is an automatic citizen

this - minus the racist overtones is pretty much it.

Breeder? litter? Prick!

How about treating them as humans, not animals.

[krazy kaju]

How could the Judge say this? Doesn't he know that every immigrant is a Marxist who breeds little Marxist children who then vote to take away our freedoms?

[phill4paul]

There are many reasons that America is in the state that it is in with regards to jobs,wages, crimes and welfare.

The focus should be on federal government and what it has done to create these problems not an ethnic group nor immigrants legal or illegal.

Individuals or groups of individuals did not create the problems that the government would have us find scapegoats for.

International trade agreements, prohibition laws without weight of Constitutional amendments and out of control vote pandering have created this problem.

Don't lose sight of the brass ring.

[orenbus]

Glad u noticed that.

Germans in the 1930's were actually free to move about as they pleased. Their taxes were also very light....budgets were balanced, private businesses thrived, and the German Mark under Hitler was issued interest-free....strongest currency in the world.


YouTube - The Rise of Hitler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYrN45ahGg)

[low preference guy]

I'm glad you've come to your senses.

Aint "Libertarianism" great? All we need to do is give these people some Ron Paul slim-jims written in Spanish and they'll all be voting for liberty candidates too. :rolleyes:

Hmmm... is your point that you hate spanish speaking people now? I'm not accusing you, I'm just not sure I get what you're trying to say.

[Light]

I'm glad you've come to your senses.

Aint "Libertarianism" great? All we need to do is give these people some Ron Paul slim-jims written in Spanish and they'll all be voting for liberty candidates too. :rolleyes:

These people are liberaltarians, not libertarians. A lot of these people are rejects from the left that found them to be too authoritarian.

[dannno]

i love the Judge....but he's out to lunch on this one...

I hope Ron doesnt take the same position, cuz it would kill any chance he has in 2012

Ron Paul already said he is against it, because the law violates the 4th amendment. C'mon man, you know you don't want the cops asking you for your papers for no reason..

[krazy kaju]

I find it funny that people here oppose immigration because it will collapse the welfare state. I thought you all wanted to get rid of the welfare state?

[dannno]

I'm glad you've come to your senses.

Aint "Libertarianism" great? All we need to do is give these people some Ron Paul slim-jims written in Spanish and they'll all be voting for liberty candidates too. :rolleyes:

Libertarians are against public education and all that crap he was talking about us giving them.. you know better than that.

[sofia]

Libertarians are against public education and all that crap he was talking about us giving them.. you know better than that.

i know...but here is where idealism clashes with reality.

like it or not, we ARE a socialist nation at this time. As long as these aliens are here....they are sapping our financial resources through the cost of educating them...hospitalizing them..and, in many cases...incarcerating them

[silus]

i love the Judge....but he's out to lunch on this one...

I hope Ron doesnt take the same position, cuz it would kill any chance he has in 2012
Yes, because we all know Ron Paul takes positions based on his chances of winning an election. I know you aren't all that bright, but its pretty damn obvious where Ron Paul would stand on this. That is if you didn't have your personal interests so heavily invested in this issue.

On separate note, I love how you have no problems saying someone is wrong and adding nothing else in support. A pretty clear indicator you can't do much besides giving a superficial, unsupported opinion. Arrogant and ignorant.

[Vessol]

Sofia, what do you think of illegal Canadian immigrants?

[catdd]

Yes, because we all know Ron Paul takes positions based on his chances of winning an election. I know you aren't all that bright, but its pretty damn obvious where Ron Paul would stand on this. That is if you didn't have your personal interests so heavily invested in this issue.

On separate note, I love how you have no problems saying someone is wrong and adding nothing else in support. A pretty clear indicator you can't do much besides giving a superficial, unsupported opinion. Arrogant and ignorant.

You have to stop all of that name calling. I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.

[heavenlyboy34]

I find it funny that people here oppose immigration because it will collapse the welfare state. I thought you all wanted to get rid of the welfare state?

Some do. It seems that it's just campaign slogan for most here, tho. :(

[JeNNiF00F00]

These people are liberaltarians, not libertarians. A lot of these people are rejects from the left that found them to be too authoritarian.

Comeon Light. Dont get me started.

[ClayTrainor]

Some do. It seems that it's just campaign slogan for most here, tho. :(

I guess it depends on whether or not you see any hope in using the political process to return to the principles of the 200+ year old document that it grew out of.

The only hope that I see in politics, is the educational aspect.

[silus]

You have to stop all of that name calling. I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.
You're ugly. :p

[sofia]

Sofia, what do you think of illegal Canadian immigrants?

When our northern cities start going bankrupt from the influx of illegal Canadians overwhelming the school system, hospitals, and jails.......

when their crimes rates explode due to Canadian gang violence spilling over into the US......

I'll be the first one to advocate the rounding up of white trash Candian illegals and deporting them.

How's that?

[torchbearer]

When our northern cities start going bankrupt from the influx of illegal Canadians overwhelming the school system, hospitals, and jails.......

when their crimes rates explode due to Canadian gang violence spilling over into the US......

I'll be the first one to advocate the rounding up of white trash Candian illegals and deporting them.

How's that?

Good Bud comes from B.C., don't close those borders
Crap bud comes from mexico, close those borders.
:D

[ClayTrainor]

Good Bud comes from B.C., don't close those borders
Crap bud comes from mexico, close those borders.
:D

hahahahaha. :D

[dannno]

rofl..

[Vessol]

When our northern cities start going bankrupt from the influx of illegal Canadians overwhelming the school system, hospitals, and jails.......

when their crimes rates explode due to Canadian gang violence spilling over into the US......

I'll be the first one to advocate the rounding up of white trash Candian illegals and deporting them.

How's that?

Whose going to be doing the rounding up? Not the government by any chance, right?

You don't think that could be used as a possible reason to round up other "undesirables".

Why. Woops, looks like we lost your citizenship records, Mr. Against the Fed. We'll be shipping you out now.

I mean, giving the power to the State to round up and ID people, noway that will go wrong.

[dannno]

Whose going to be doing the rounding up? Not the government by any chance, right?

You don't think that could be used as a possible reason to round up other "undesirables".

Why. Woops, looks like we lost your citizenship records, Mr. Against the Fed. We'll be shipping you out now.

I mean, giving the power to the State to round up and ID people, noway that will go wrong.

No way, couldn't EVER go wrong ;)

[Imperial]

I think Judge Nap's comment (that it is Antebellum South + East Germany) seems to mean it combines the latter's tyrannic nature with the former's racial discrimination.

[sofia]

Good Bud comes from B.C., don't close those borders
Crap bud comes from mexico, close those borders.
:D

spare me the race card.

my girl is Indian (I'm a dude)....

She has light brown skin and actually looks more Mexican than Indian

....smart, works hard and she is taxed to death.......and she has to go through bureuacratic hell trying to get a LEGAL green card.....

[low preference guy]

"sofia" is funny as hell.

[torchbearer]

spare me the race card.

my girl is Indian (I'm a dude)....

She has light brown skin and actually looks more Mexican than Indian

....smart, works hard and she is taxed to death.......and she has to go through bureuacratic hell trying to get a LEGAL green card.....

i have no idea wtf you are talking about. i made a funny.

[sofia]

Whose going to be doing the rounding up? Not the government by any chance, right?

You don't think that could be used as a possible reason to round up other "undesirables".

Why. Woops, looks like we lost your citizenship records, Mr. Against the Fed. We'll be shipping you out now.

I mean, giving the power to the State to round up and ID people, noway that will go wrong.

bogus slippery slope argument,,,

one of the very few legitimate functions of a liberty based government IS to round up criminals and protect us from them.....

and if you had bothered to actually read the AZ law....the cops can only ask for ID AFTER the suspect has been detained for another offense. (speeding, robbery, shop-lifting etc)

[dannno]

and if you had bothered to actually read the AZ law....the cops can only ask for ID AFTER the suspect has been detained for another offense. (speeding, robbery, shop-lifting etc)

No, we've debunked that from actual language in the bill.

They can literally stop anybody they want and say that they think you are an illegal citizen and ask for your papers.. anybody, citizens or not. That is bad.

I backed off a bit when someone posted what you said, but then Melissa dug up the actual text of the bill and we proved they were full of it.

[Carson]

This is why we can't have nice things.

[low preference guy]

Judge Napolitano also says they can stop anyone on the street. That's the reason why the video in the OP shows someone asking the governor "What does an illegal immigrant look like?".

[Vessol]

bogus slippery slope argument,,,

one of the very few legitimate functions of a liberty based government IS to round up criminals and protect us from them.....


Who defines who the criminals are?

Your Answer: The Law

Who writes the law?

The government.

[ChooseLiberty]

:D


This is why we can't have nice things.

[Carson]

How about if every person in law enforcement stopped what they were doing at a random time of day and checked everyone around them.

That shouldn't be called racist.

As for probable cause, there are whole states that the odds a pretty good illegal activity is being carried out in regards to the immigration laws. I'm not talking about just the illegal aliens themselves either.

[phill4paul]

How about if every person in law enforcement stopped what they were doing at a random time of day and checked everyone around the.

That wouldn't be racist.

As for probable cause, there are whole states that the odds a pretty good illegal activity is being carried out in regards to the immigration laws. I'm not talking about just the illegal aliens themselves either.

Seems you have missed the point. It is not about racism.

[silus]

spare me the race card.

my girl is Indian (I'm a dude)....

She has light brown skin and actually looks more Mexican than Indian

....smart, works hard and she is taxed to death.......and she has to go through bureuacratic hell trying to get a LEGAL green card.....
Race card?! Jesus Christ, you can't even comprehend a simple joke.


P.S. All this time I thought you were a sad little girl.

[Carson]

Seems you have missed the point. It is not about racism.

I realized later I missed worded what I meant to say. Sorry

[james1906]

Antebellum South? Awesome, I'm going to Arizona?
So are the Southern belles cute? All the nice dresses and clothing and various parties, not the trash like now.

Oh, you just mean the slavery crap? :( Ruin my hopes.

+1

It's impossible to get a mint julep anywhere.

[phill4paul]

I realized later I missed worded what I meant to say. Sorry

No prob. I just like to clarify and appreciate when others call me out as the typed word rarely conveys my true intentions. Emoticons help but rarely reflect the true meaning of the written word. :D:o:confused:;):p:cool::eek:

[chadhb]

This is the bait and switch, never trust this Faux news trash. Just like Beck they say a few good things, to only stab you in the back when it really matters. If the goverment promises to rid my country of illegal Mexicans, they can pull me over anytime.

[dannno]

This is the bait and switch, never trust this Faux news trash. Just like Beck they say a few good things, to only stab you in the back when it really matters. If the goverment promises to rid my country of illegal Mexicans, they can pull me over anytime.

That's a pretty funny comment to see on these forums.. the Judge is one of the biggest protectors of the Constitution there is.. and you obviously are not.

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