Heads Up

[pcosmar]

Posting this for awareness.
Veterans Today Is not generally a Conspiracy Theory outlet.
This is interesting.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/04/24/gordon-duff-stage-being-set-for-dirty-bomb-false-flag/
GORDON DUFF: STAGE BEING SET FOR “DIRTY BOMB” FALSE FLAG

“CHATTER” FLOWING IN FROM EVERYWHERE

“SUITCASE” NUKE SAID TO BE IN PLACE

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Rumors of an upcoming terror attack to be blamed on Iran are moving around the world, “backchannel chatter.” The primary suspect is Israel who is said to have a number of small “suitcase” type nuclear weapons, some primarily “dirty bombs,” possibly supplied secretly by a previous US administration. These devices are in the “40 ton” range, highly radioactive, extremely small and can be engineered to leave the signature of a primitive device. They were originally designed for use against Soviet armor and troop concentrations in Europe if a massed attack on NATO were to occur. Current conventional systems have made this type of weapon obsolete.

eyes and ears open

[Anti Federalist]

Nice find, thanks for posting that.

ETA - Coincidence that Obama met with Billy Graham today?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/25/obama-visit-billy-graham-north-carolina-home/

[pcosmar]

Nice find, thanks for posting that.

ETA - Coincidence that Obama met with Billy Graham today?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/25/obama-visit-billy-graham-north-carolina-home/

If you believe in coincidence. ;)

[Zippyjuan]

Warning! Warning! Be on the lookout for somebody carrying a 100 lb suitcase. These things have a very short half life (due to the small amount of fuel) and need to be refueled about every ten years or so. Anything over say five years old may be questionable about its actually working. One reason they quit making them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21723693/

Majidi says it would take about 22 pounds of plutonium or 130 pounds of uranium to create a nuclear detonation. Both would require explosives to set off the blast, but significantly more for the uranium.

Although uranium is considered easier for terrorists to obtain, it would be too heavy for one person to lug around in a suitcase.

Plutonium, he notes, would require the cooperation of a state with a plutonium reprocessing program. It seems highly unlikely that a country would knowingly cooperate with terrorists because the device would bear the chemical fingerprints of that government. “I don’t think any nation is willing to participate in this type of activity,” Majidi said.

That means the fissile material probably would have to be stolen. “It is very difficult for that much material to walk away,” he added.

There is one more wrinkle: Nuclear devices require a lot of maintenance because the material that makes them so deadly also can wreak havoc on their electrical systems.

“The more compact the devices are — guess what? — the more frequently they need to be maintained. Everything is compactly designed around that radiation source, which damages everything over a period of time,” Majidi said.

[pcosmar]

Warning! Warning!

Your point being pointless. Or do you deny that such devices exist?
Even without making a nuclear explosion it could still be used as a dirty bomb.

As a point of fact, I could make a dirty bomb with a stick of dynamite and a used X-ray machine.

[Zippyjuan]

You could, but that is not what is described in your original post.
Yes, they once made small nuclear devices, but they have proved impractical so they were discontinued. Your X-ray machine will not have a yield of "possibly 40 tons".
And to quote your link:

Current conventional systems have made this type of weapon obsolete.

[Anti Federalist]

You could, but that is not what is described in your original post.
Yes, they once made small nuclear devices, but they have proved impractical so they were discontinued. Your X-ray machine will not have a yield of "possibly 40 tons".

Realistic tactical effectiveness of such a weapon is not required for the "mission" stated in the article.

The goal is to stampede the cattle.

24/7 news coverage of the "suitcase nuke ground zero" will do that quite effectively.

Boobus will be reduced to a blubbering, whimpering ball of pant pissing fear, ready to cede to the government anything it wants.

[Kotin]

the point of it would be to start a war.. doesnt matter how much damage it does as long as it gets blamed on the appropriate target(Iran)

[Anti Federalist]

the point of it would be to start a war.. doesnt matter how much damage it does as long as it gets blamed on the appropriate target(Iran)

Exactly.

[Zippyjuan]

We don't have resources to fight a war with Iran so what would be the point?
Party on!
YouTube - Fishbone - Party At Ground Zero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJCaFe1yamg)

[Reason]

YouTube - UN Inspector Scott Ritter: Fools would Bomb Iran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQan1qo8T4)

YouTube - The other side of the Iran issue: Why our Foreign Policy MUST change (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6bFjObhwV0)

[BlackTerrel]

Rumors of an upcoming terror attack to be blamed on Iran are moving around the world, “backchannel chatter.” The primary suspect is Israel who is said to have a number of small “suitcase” type nuclear weapons, some primarily “dirty bombs,” possibly supplied secretly by a previous US administration.

How the hell would this guy know all that?

BTW since 9/11, Alex Jones types have been predicting a terror attack "any second now" every couple months. Every time they are wrong they ignore it or come up with an excuse for why they were wrong. Sometimes they even claim credit "oh we talked about it therefore the false flag didn't happen".

Eventually there will be a terrorist attack and they will say "aha" and the conspiracy theorists will eat it up.

I could do the same thing and predict an "imminent hurricane" every couple months.


Nice find, thanks for posting that.

ETA - Coincidence that Obama met with Billy Graham today?

Why is that a coincidence?

[pcosmar]

How the hell would this guy know all that?
From his profile,

About: Gordon Duff

Email : gpduf@aol.com

Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, grunt and 100% disabled vet. He has been a featured commentator on TV and radio including Al Jazeera and his articles have been carried by news services around the world. He has been a UN Diplomat, defense contractor and is a widely published expert on military and defense issues. He is active in the financial industry and is a specialist on global trade. Gordon Duff acts as political and economic advisor to a number of governments in Africa and the Middle East. Gordon Duff is currently working on economic development projects in Pakistan and Afghanistan to counter the effects of poverty and global extremism.
I assume he has acquired some contacts in his field of employment.
Also, Veterans Today is not a publication given to Conspiracy Theories, as a rule.


Why is that a coincidence?
Did you read the whole article?
and this,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/25/AR2010042502947.html

[amy31416]

One point to consider:

Zbignew Brzezinski is involved, and he doesn't like the notion of us going to war with Iran for tactical purposes--he's more fond of pitting people against each other and taking nations out via strategy.

I don't think it's as simple as the semi-obvious neocon goals anymore, I think what we have is an ugly mash-up of neocon foreign policy strategy with Brzezinski's "chess-playing." I can't pretend to be able to comprehend exactly what's going on, but I don't think it's going to be as simple as a false-flag that can be pinned on Iran.

But that's just my guess from what I've been researching.

[pcosmar]

20 mins ago. via Google news.
http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/0/28c5b280d311903a8525771100525103?OpenDocument
Liberty RadEx drill to test national clean-up and recovery efforts after mock ‘dirty bomb’ attack

Yup, seems no one is concerned. :rolleyes:

[pcosmar]

One point to consider:

Zbignew Brzezinski is involved, and he doesn't like the notion of us going to war with Iran for tactical purposes--he's more fond of pitting people against each other and taking nations out via strategy.

I don't think it's as simple as the semi-obvious neocon goals anymore, I think what we have is an ugly mash-up of neocon foreign policy strategy with Brzezinski's "chess-playing." I can't pretend to be able to comprehend exactly what's going on, but I don't think it's going to be as simple as a false-flag that can be pinned on Iran.

But that's just my guess from what I've been researching.

Actually, that is several points. But your right. It is hard to predict exactly what they have in mind.
My goal in posting it was as a "Heads UP". Watch what is happening and question what gets reported. It will likely have some heavy spin on it.

[amy31416]

Actually, that is several points. But your right. It is hard to predict exactly what they have in mind.
My goal in posting it was as a "Heads UP". Watch what is happening and question what gets reported. It will likely have some heavy spin on it.

No doubt about that.

My main point is that I don't think that things will be nearly as obvious as past events, but there will certainly be a lot of manipulation.

Personally, I'd love to see the neocon morons and people like Brzezinski clash so heavily that they implode...but that's the optimist in me.

[Krugerrand]

You could, but that is not what is described in your original post.
Yes, they once made small nuclear devices, but they have proved impractical so they were discontinued. Your X-ray machine will not have a yield of "possibly 40 tons".
And to quote your link:

Some will argue that a "false flag" event need not be limited by the damage such a device could cause - additional materials could be used in conjunction.

Many people have argued that two planes were not enough to bring down three buildings, yet three buildings came down.

[osan]

Warning! Warning! Be on the lookout for somebody carrying a 100 lb suitcase. These things have a very short half life (due to the small amount of fuel) and need to be refueled about every ten years or so. Anything over say five years old may be questionable about its actually working. One reason they quit making them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21723693/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21723693/)

The Mk54 weighed about 50 pounds and was small in size. That is smallest the US will fess up to. I am confident they have come up with smaller.

[Ninja Homer]

From his profile,

Really, I'm not poking fun, but what the hell is a "100% disabled vet"? I know what 100% means, I know what disabled vet means, put them together and it seems like it shouldn't be describing any live person.

[Anti Federalist]

Really, I'm not poking fun, but what the hell is a "100% disabled vet"? I know what 100% means, I know what disabled vet means, put them together and it seems like it shouldn't be describing any live person.

LoL, yeah right.

I'm going to assume it means he is disabled to the point where he can't work.

[BlackTerrel]

From his profile...He has been a featured commentator on TV and radio including Al Jazeera and his articles have been carried by news services around the world. He has been a UN Diplomat, defense contractor and is a widely published expert on military and defense issues.

And that gives him info that Israel has suitcase nukes that they are soon going to blow up in the US and blame on Iran? Seems a bit sketch... if someone posted a link that Iran was about to bomb the US everyone would claim it was BS. But say Israel and no matter what follows everyone just nods in agreement.


Did you read the whole article?

Yes. What is the correlation between Billy Graham and suitcase nukes?


Really, I'm not poking fun, but what the hell is a "100% disabled vet"? I know what 100% means, I know what disabled vet means, put them together and it seems like it shouldn't be describing any live person.

The military gives you a percent disability. The higher the number the more difficult it is for you to function and the more you benefit. I don't know exactly how they do it, but I have a friend who is 100% as well.

[Zippyjuan]

Also, Veterans Today is not a publication given to Conspiracy Theories, as a rule.


I see an article which seems to embrace the Israel is behind everything from 9/11(the headline seems to imply that they were behind that) to Iraq.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/04/26/when-will-israel-attack-the-u-s-again/



When Will Israel Attack the U.S. — Again?
April 26, 2010 posted by Jeff Gates ·

Israel has long been waging war on the U.S. by way of deception. To date, its operatives have worked from the shadows hoping not to be detected. Their duplicity typically includes the displacement of facts with what the American public can be deceived to believe.

Thus the need to create a widely held belief around Iraqi WMD, Iraqi ties to Al Qaeda, Iraqi meetings in Prague, Iraqi mobile biological weapons laboratories and Iraq’s purchase of uranium from Niger. Though all five “facts” were false, only the last claim was conceded as phony prior to inducing our invasion of Iraq.

There lies our national security challenge as the groundwork is being laid for another 911.

The same fact-displacing modus operandi is again at work. In the parlance of national security analysts, psy-ops specialists are “preparing the mind” to accept another generally accepted truth at odds with the facts. This time the objective is Iran. Or Pakistan.


Gordon Duff (the author of the false flag warning) seems to agree. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/19/22329/


GORDON DUFF: SABROSKY INTERVIEW TIES ISRAEL TO 9/11
March 19, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 155 Comments

DR ALAN SABROSKY, FORMER DIRECTOR OF STUDIES AT THE US ARMY WAR COLLEGE

“ISRAEL DID IT”

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor


Article after article on that site seems to find ways to blame things on Israel and Jews. Even a piece on Columbus Day plunges into it.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/12/columbus-day-an-american-holocaust-or-day-to-celebrate/

Look, from one end, the Zionist tactics are to be admired On the other side, is to be condemned at the highest level because they are doing, what in effect, exactly what Christopher Columbus did over time and in many ways, what Adolf Hitler tried to do in Europe. The only difference is that Zionist are much more smart then that fool Hitler. They are doing it an measured way, step by step. over time. Much fore effective….much like we did to the Native Indians.

In the end, to the victor goes the spoils and the both the Zionists and the European Invaders of North America, our decendants, played the right hand and won this battle. As they say, the winners write the history books and control the public opinion.

LET US EAT CAKE
So let us celebrate Columbus Day. We won the battle We are the victors and its’ our day to enjoy.

As for my angry fellow American friend who wants to deny the Holocaust, well, have a cold beer, shut up, and assimilate because if you don’t, you too could end up someday like those poor innocent people who were on the wrong side of the gun, just trying to work, eat, and feed your family while the bulldozers driven by psychotic predators rolled into town.


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/04/20/gordon-duff-fox-news-voice-of-israels-war-machine/

GORDON DUFF: FOX NEWS, VOICE OF ISRAEL’S WAR MACHINE
April 20, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 47 Comments

FEW AMERICANS ARE AWARE THAT FOX NEWS IS DIRECTLY TIED TO LIKUD EXTREMISTS IN ISRAEL

ISRAEL’S PROPAGANDA MACHINE, WAGING WAR AGAINST ISRAELI’S “ALLIES”

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

[Ninja Homer]

The military gives you a percent disability. The higher the number the more difficult it is for you to function and the more you benefit. I don't know exactly how they do it, but I have a friend who is 100% as well.

Thanks, it makes sense to me now.