The Mexican is the New Jew!

[damiengwa]

<eom>

[emazur]

that's what i've heard about the indians

[Slutter McGee]

Not yet. Yet being the key word.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[fedup100]

No, racist is the new anti-semite and PC correctness will be the undoing of our days upon the earth.

[Zippyjuan]

Some people need to have somebody else to blame for their own problems. Immigrants or those of different religions or races are easy targets because "they are not like us" so they must be the source of the problem. "It wasn't like this until they came around." If you take personal responsibility for yourself you don't need scapegoats.

[teacherone]

as a mexican jew i demand an apology for the traumatic matzo-ball taco attack of 2008.

[Pete_00]

"Arizona is new Nazi Germany! And its leaders are new Nazi Party!" :eek:

[angelatc]

Some people need to have somebody else to blame for their own problems. Immigrants or those of different religions or races are easy targets because "they are not like us" so they must be the source of the problem. "It wasn't like this until they came around." If you take personal responsibility for yourself you don't need scapegoats.

And some people who claim to understand advanced economic theories seem to have difficulty with effect of the laws of simple supply and demand in the labor market, especially as it applies to the national welfare state.

Nobody in this forum has said anything like that nonsense you just spewed, by the way.

[payme_rick]

as a mexican jew i demand an apology for the traumatic matzo-ball taco attack of 2008.

haha

glad I read the Hannity thread just before this one...

[Zippyjuan]

And some people who claim to understand advanced economic theories seem to have difficulty with effect of the laws of simple supply and demand in the labor market, especially as it applies to the national welfare state.


Perhaps you can refresh me on what I have had to say on the matter which would indicate a mis-understanding of supply and demand. I am having some difficulty with that at this moment. Thank you.

[Liberty Star]

Jews are fine human beings, so are Mexicans and Texans and citizens of Idaho.

I hope we never go back to the collectivist and bigoted mindset of past decades where signs like "jews and dogs not allowed" at facilities entrances could be tolerated. We have to continue to move forward as a nation that values human liberties over fears and ignorances.

[lynnf]

Perhaps you can refresh me on what I have had to say on the matter which would indicate a mis-understanding of supply and demand. I am having some difficulty with that at this moment. Thank you.


how about this: flood the market with cheap foreign labor with visas or without

== supply goes up = demand goes down = Americans have trouble finding jobs

there's a nice equation for you

lynn

[Zippyjuan]

Thank you for pointing that out. Have I said this does not occur? If the economy grows, then it can demand more labor. That labor can come from immigration. Supply and demand. Now that the economy is doing poorly, immigration is down. People come here for different reasons. Economic opportunity is probably the biggest one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/31/us/31immig.html

Decline Seen in Numbers of People Here Illegally
By JULIA PRESTON
Published: July 31, 2008
The number of illegal immigrants in the country has dropped by as much as 1.3 million in the past year, an 11 percent decline since a historic peak last August, an immigration research group in Washington said in a report released Wednesday.

The report, by Steven A. Camarota and Karen Jensenius of the Center for Immigration Studies, found “strong indications” that stepped-up enforcement by immigration authorities had played a major role in the decline.

The report, which is based on monthly census surveys as recent as May, added to a growing body of studies indicating that the population of illegal immigrants in the United States is dropping significantly.

The study’s methods and conclusions were questioned by other demographers and economists, who said the decline might be less than the center reported and was more likely the result of the weak economy, especially in low-wage construction and manufacturing where illegal immigrants are generally employed.



That was 2008. The trend continues.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/11/local/la-me-immig11-2010feb11

Illegal immigrant numbers plunge
California's number drops by 250,000, the nation's nearly 1 million. The sharpest drop in three decades renews the debate over what to do about those still here.
February 11, 2010|By Teresa Watanabe
A new report that the nation's illegal immigrant population has declined by nearly 1 million has sharpened the debate over whether to legalize those remaining or allow their numbers to shrink through attrition.

The number of illegal immigrants living in the United States dropped to 10.8 million in 2009 from 11.6 million in 2008, marking the second consecutive year of decline and the sharpest decrease in at least three decades, according to a report this week by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

California's illegal immigrant population, still the largest in the nation, declined by 250,000 to 2.6 million. The state now accounts for just one-quarter of the nation's total illegal migrant population, compared with 30% in 2000.

"This represents a sharp break from the past, when pretty much the illegal population has continually grown," said Steven Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C., research group that favors immigration restrictions. "It shows illegal immigration is not inexorable."



The more desirable our country is or the better we are relative to other countries, the more people will want to come here. Should we dislike people because they want the same opportunities you have?
This is not to say that we should not have rules about immigration.

[erowe1]

how about this: flood the market with cheap foreign labor with visas or without

== supply goes up = demand goes down up too

There. Fixed it.

Why in the world would more consumers make demand for stuff (and the labor that goes into making that stuff) go down?

[Danke]

Huh? Mexicans are becoming Lawyers and Bankers?

[dannno]

I would argue that if we didn't have their cheap labor coming in so quickly, our country would have in turn gone through the process of de-industrialization much more quickly. The cheap labor actually helps make doing manufacturing work here more competitive than it would were they not here.

Blame it on the banks, not the Mexicans.

[Zippyjuan]

"Import workers or export jobs." Can't remember exactly where I heard that.

[AuH20]

The threadstarter is basically saying that they're bulletproof in the biased prism of the MSM. Thus, any valid criticism is boiled down to the race factor.

[JeNNiF00F00]

how about this: flood the market with cheap foreign labor with visas or without

== supply goes up = demand goes down = Americans have trouble finding jobs

there's a nice equation for you

lynn

"Our" mexicans have all but disappeared since the Economy went down.

[BlackTerrel]

The threadstarter is basically saying that they're bulletproof in the biased prism of the MSM. Thus, any valid criticism is boiled down to the race factor.

What is the valid criticism of Mexicans?

[AuH20]

What is the valid criticism of Mexicans?

You haven't been reading the news? Where do you think the cartel violence and kidnappings are coming from? Mexico is a extremely oligarchical, narco-infested cesspool that's been intentionally exploited by the globalists and the internal enemies of this country for years. All the natural, pent-up domestic pressure is relieved by alllowing Mexico to export its' dissatisfied populace to the United States. I suspect if Mexico was an island situated in the South Pacific, that they would have experienced 2 major revolutions by now. By all explanations, Mexico should be a thriving world power with a more equitable per capita income given the natural resources it holds.

[tremendoustie]

And some people who claim to understand advanced economic theories seem to have difficulty with effect of the laws of simple supply and demand in the labor market, especially as it applies to the national welfare state.

Nobody in this forum has said anything like that nonsense you just spewed, by the way.

Actually, I'm quite familiar with the laws of supply and demand. Free markets work best for everyone. The immigration control you're espousing is no different than price fixes or production caps on commodities, and it doesn't work any better.

[erowe1]

Where do you think the cartel violence and kidnappings are coming from?

The war on drugs.

[tremendoustie]

how about this: flood the market with cheap foreign labor with visas or without

== supply goes up = demand goes down = Americans have trouble finding jobs


Supply going up would not make demand go down. Assuming the curve remains the same, it would make demand go up, and price go down. You clearly don't understand the first thing about economics. I recommend Hazlett's "Economics in one lesson".

Real wages, however, would stay the same, or increase, because increased production would also lower prices on consumable goods.

[tremendoustie]

The war on drugs.

Bingo.

[Stary Hickory]

I have nothing against any race, but I do have a problem with illegal immigration. Does this make me a jew hater? I am confused. Alternatively elimintate the welfare state and a centralized government with unlimtied power ruled by the mob and I could care less who comes and goes.

But when they all wield the awesome power of government to rob me and dehumanize me, forgive me for actually wanting to keep them at bay.

[tremendoustie]

I have nothing against any race, but I do have a problem with illegal immigration. Does this make me a jew hater? I am confused. Alternatively elimintate the welfare state and a centralized government with unlimtied power ruled by the mob and I could care less who comes and goes.


I agree with your opposition to centralized government and the welfare state, but I don't think this is the solution.



But when they all wield the awesome power of government to rob me and dehumanize me, forgive me for actually wanting to keep them at bay.

The people who want to rob and dehumanize you are already here. The solution is not more police control, and mandatory documentation -- that's just moving even farther towards tyranny.

[Stary Hickory]

I agree with your opposition to centralized government and the welfare state, but I don't think this is the solution.



The people who want to rob and dehumanize you are already here. The solution is not more police control, and mandatory documentation -- that's just moving even farther towards tyranny.


Well then get rid of the instrument of theft and violence do NOT increase those using this weapon to rob people. I am sorry my stance is NO to illegal imigration until we stop the welfare state. I will not let more people rob me and threaten to kill me if I do not comply.

Those who use the welfare state initiate the force, and at some point forceful opposition becomes necessary if we are going to preserve any freedom or liberty. To act as if we can let this continue with no response is ridiculous. I don't like the AZ law as written but I have no problem with methods used to remove people forcefully who did not imigigrate legally so long as I am held hostage by an instituion of force which allows these same people to rob me.

This is the necessary result of a statist welfare state. Fierce resistance to imigration. The AZ law should be written so that ID is checked for everyone at certain events, when it makes sense. Not random stops for paperwork.

[damiengwa]

as a mexican jew i demand an apology for the traumatic matzo-ball taco attack of 2008.

LOL!!!! you are a lurker fo sho!

[damiengwa]

And some people who claim to understand advanced economic theories seem to have difficulty with effect of the laws of simple supply and demand in the labor market, especially as it applies to the national welfare state.

Nobody in this forum has said anything like that nonsense you just spewed, by the way.

Who are you referring to? Or are you referring to the point of view that open boarders would bankrupt the welfare state?

I can't think of a better reason to just open the boarders than to bankrupt the state so that we can have more liberty!

[constituent]

Since all these efforts to get "liberty" candidates elected to office is alleged to mean something, I just want to make sure that we all do in fact support amending the Tariff Act of 1930, specifically Subtitle III, Part II, § 1459. Reporting Requirements for Individuals to include an exception for all natural born citizens of the United States, correct?

We do, right?

[damiengwa]

how about this: flood the market with cheap foreign labor with visas or without

== supply goes up = demand goes down = Americans have trouble finding jobs

there's a nice equation for you

lynn

If only it were sound economics. It isn't. Read Adam Smith before anything else when learning econ. People who work are producing. Voluntary exchange ALWAYS creates value for those participating in the exchange, or else they wouldn't exchange. An employer would not hire some one who does not produce and help the bottom line. Thus, a Mexican takes no one's job, but the one that was created for them. A "job" doesn't exist.

If you listen to any of the get rich quick guys on late night tv, you'd know that.. ;-)

[damiengwa]

You haven't been reading the news? Where do you think the cartel violence and kidnappings are coming from?

The prohibition of drugs. Both the so called 'illicit' kind as well as perscription. Repeal all statutes controlling what an American can put in his or her body and the cartels run out of revenues pretty quick. Manufacturuers of ibuprofen, acetaminophen, etc are not committing acts of violence to move product or take market share.


Mexico is a extremely oligarchical, narco-infested cesspool that's been intentionally exploited by the globalists and the internal enemies of this country for years. All the natural, pent-up domestic pressure is relieved by alllowing Mexico to export its' dissatisfied populace to the United States. I suspect if Mexico was an island situated in the South Pacific, that they would have experienced 2 major revolutions by now. By all explanations, Mexico should be a thriving world power with a more equitable per capita income given the natural resources it holds.

I agreee completely. But everythign you just highlighted is a criticism of the Masters wielding power and control over the "Mexicans" not those responsible themselves...

--
Boy i'm really unwashing some brains today...

[amy31416]

WTF is this thread? I keep waiting for it to make sense, but it doesn't.

[damiengwa]

But when they all wield the awesome power of government to rob me and dehumanize me, forgive me for actually wanting to keep them at bay.

You are justifying Tyranny over some one else to POSSIBLY reduce the Tyranny over you. But fundamentally you perpetuate Tyranny by supporting it at all.

Quick fighting over the "Gun in the Room" called government force. Love your fellow man. No harm, no crime!

[constituent]

WTF is this thread? I keep waiting for it to make sense, but it doesn't.


Since all these efforts to get "liberty" candidates elected to office is alleged to mean something, I just want to make sure that we all do in fact support amending the Tariff Act of 1930, specifically Subtitle III, Part II, § 1459. Reporting Requirements for Individuals to include an exception for all natural born citizens of the United States, correct?


you do, right? :confused: :o

[amy31416]

you do, right? :confused: :o

Indubitably!?.

[constituent]

Indubitably!?.

Thank you! ;) :)

[damiengwa]

We do, right?

Hey constituent, whats with the attempt to hijack the thread by injecting nonsense into our discussion (flooding). Either participate on topic or step aside. Quit flooding...its a TOS violation.

[JeNNiF00F00]

I can just see it now. See what happens now is our trusty cops will pull you over for something like the light on your license plate not working. Then when they pull you over, they look at you and ask "Can we search your car for drugs". The person understands their rights and says "No", so then the police officer says "Do you have your citizen papers?". The person says "No", because hes a white guy that thinks hes safe from being asked that question.

So, said person is toted off to jail for not having papers. In the meantime car is searched for drugs anyways, and is torn up because the drug dogs have alerted the cops that there are drugs there so thats what they do, tear your shit up, person is charged for 1 gram of marijuana(which was made illegal originally because of the Mexican immigration "problem").

Person ends up spending 2 days in jail because its the weekend and he has a weekend job that pays great money. Man loses job for missing 2 days work because he was in jail for not having papers, police do research and find he IS a citizen, BUT they catch him on charges for possession of a controlled substance.

Then the citizen ends up paying thousands of dollars in fines, losing his vehicle and gets a permanent record, has problem finding work because of the record, and because he was fired for missing 2 days work for being in jail for the papers thing, and ends up losing out in the end.

All of that because of a light going out, and failure to have papers showing he is a citizen. The law will be used and abused. Just wait. They're already doing this with the Patriot Act, and FISA. They say its for one thing and then use it as a tool to make other charges. Meanwhile, the state becomes larger, and richer because they are profiting off of these arrests.

Now one can say "well he shouldn't have had cannabis". Well the point is cannabis was made illegal because of this Mexicans coming into the US bullshit. The point is, that they continue chipping away at our liberties and using "Illegals" and "terrorism" to do so. As long as we continue to allow this happen, we may end up as a "nation" as some of these pepole here want it. However who wants to live in a "nation" that doesn't allow its people to live and experience liberty??

By supporting this nonsense, people are supporting National Socialism. Its no better than what Germany did to the Jews, and its no better than what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians right now to this day. What hypocrites! The welfare state WILL NOT END as long as you give them the power and resources to keep it running. When the state has the power to arrest just about anyone, the money starts adding up and the United States corporate empire will continue to grow.

[constituent]

its a TOS violation.

lol.

my post was actually quite on topic. sorry you don't see it, but that's no one's fault but your own. :p :o

[constituent]

<eom>

^ the highly-touted "topic," apparently. :rolleyes:

[damiengwa]

I can just see it now. See what happens now is our trusty cops will pull you over for something like the light on your license plate not working. Then when they pull you over, they look at you and ask "Can we search your car for drugs". The person understands their rights and says "No", so then the police officer says "Do you have your citizen papers?". The person says "No", because hes a white guy that thinks hes safe from being asked that question.

So, said person is toted off to jail for not having papers. In the meantime car is searched for drugs anyways, and is torn up because the drug dogs have alerted the cops that there are drugs there so thats what they do, tear your shit up, person is charged for 1 gram of marijuana(which was made illegal originally because of the Mexican immigration "problem").

Person ends up spending 2 days in jail because its the weekend and he has a weekend job that pays great money. Man loses job for missing 2 days work because he was in jail for not having papers, police do research and find he IS a citizen, BUT they catch him on charges for possession of a controlled substance.

Then the citizen ends up paying thousands of dollars in fines, losing his vehicle and gets a permanent record, has problem finding work because of the record, and because he was fired for missing 2 days work for being in jail for the papers thing, and ends up losing out in the end.

All of that because of a light going out, and failure to have papers showing he is a citizen. The law will be used and abused. Just wait. They're already doing this with the Patriot Act, and FISA. They say its for one thing and then use it as a tool to make other charges. Meanwhile, the state becomes larger, and richer because they are profiting off of these arrests.

Now one can say "well he shouldn't have had cannabis". Well the point is cannabis was made illegal because of this Mexicans coming into the US bullshit. The point is, that they continue chipping away at our liberties and using "Illegals" and "terrorism" to do so. As long as we continue to allow this happen, we may end up as a "nation" as some of these pepole here want it. However who wants to live in a "nation" that doesn't allow its people to live and experience liberty??

By supporting this nonsense, people are supporting National Socialism. Its no better than what Germany did to the Jews, and its no better than what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians right now to this day. What hypocrites! The welfare state WILL NOT END as long as you give them the power and resources to keep it running. When the state has the power to arrest just about anyone, the money starts adding up and the United States corporate empire will continue to grow.

Thank you for participating on topic... you are absolutely right. It is AMAZING just how many supposed "Liberty Lovers" actually believe that a new government power will be used just for its intended purpose. Or that stopping Mexicans and checking their paper work will "get rid of the illegals" to begin with.

Its a whole new prohibition. This time a prohibition on appearing to be a foreigner. AND it will be used against "native" born Americans, when the Coppers need an excuse to get up in his biz...

[teacherone]

I can just see it now. See what happens now is our trusty cops will pull you over for something like the light on your license plate not working. Then when they pull you over, they look at you and ask "Can we search your car for drugs". The person understands their rights and says "No", so then the police officer says "Do you have your citizen papers?". The person says "No", because hes a white guy that thinks hes safe from being asked that question.

So, said person is toted off to jail for not having papers. In the meantime car is searched for drugs anyways, and is torn up because the drug dogs have alerted the cops that there are drugs there so thats what they do, tear your shit up, person is charged for 1 gram of marijuana(which was made illegal originally because of the Mexican immigration "problem").

Person ends up spending 2 days in jail because its the weekend and he has a weekend job that pays great money. Man loses job for missing 2 days work because he was in jail for not having papers, police do research and find he IS a citizen, BUT they catch him on charges for possession of a controlled substance.

Then the citizen ends up paying thousands of dollars in fines, losing his vehicle and gets a permanent record, has problem finding work because of the record, and because he was fired for missing 2 days work for being in jail for the papers thing, and ends up losing out in the end.

All of that because of a light going out, and failure to have papers showing he is a citizen. The law will be used and abused. Just wait. They're already doing this with the Patriot Act, and FISA. They say its for one thing and then use it as a tool to make other charges. Meanwhile, the state becomes larger, and richer because they are profiting off of these arrests.

Now one can say "well he shouldn't have had cannabis". Well the point is cannabis was made illegal because of this Mexicans coming into the US bullshit. The point is, that they continue chipping away at our liberties and using "Illegals" and "terrorism" to do so. As long as we continue to allow this happen, we may end up as a "nation" as some of these pepole here want it. However who wants to live in a "nation" that doesn't allow its people to live and experience liberty??

By supporting this nonsense, people are supporting National Socialism. Its no better than what Germany did to the Jews, and its no better than what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians right now to this day. What hypocrites! The welfare state WILL NOT END as long as you give them the power and resources to keep it running. When the state has the power to arrest just about anyone, the money starts adding up and the United States corporate empire will continue to grow.

must read post!

please copy and paste on all the other 1,000 threads regarding this topic

[bruce leeroy]

<eom>

hell naw they aint.................since when did jews produce bad ass boxers, good beer, barbacoa, and some killer cannabis

[JeNNiF00F00]

Thank you for participating on topic... you are absolutely right. It is AMAZING just how many supposed "Liberty Lovers" actually believe that a new government power will be used just for its intended purpose. Or that stopping Mexicans and checking their paper work will "get rid of the illegals" to begin with.

Its a whole new prohibition. This time a prohibition on appearing to be a foreigner. AND it will be used against "native" born Americans, when the Coppers need an excuse to get up in his biz...

Yep, and I see people saying "well the NWO wants open boarders!". Well, I dont think this is truly the case. The same people who were financially supporting the Nazis for the NWO, are STILL supporting a NWO today. Remember the Nazi's were staunch Nationalists. They were also expanding the empire just as the US is expanding the empire today. Meanwhile the American people continue to lose liberties left and right. Also, these people still fail to remember that Fascism/Nationalism is BIG GOVT, therefore being LEFTIST in nature. Tyranny comes in many forms. Tyranny for ONE is Tyranny for ALL.

[damiengwa]

Yep, and I see people saying "well the NWO wants open boarders!". Well, I dont think this is truly the case. The same people who were financially supporting the Nazis for the NWO, are STILL supporting a NWO today. Remember the Nazi's were staunch Nationalists. They were also expanding the empire just as the US is expanding the empire today. Meanwhile the American people continue to lose liberties left and right. Also, these people still fail to remember that Fascism/Nationalism is BIG GOVT, therefore being LEFTIST in nature. Tyranny comes in many forms. Tyranny for ONE is Tyranny for ALL.

I 've given up trying to see things as left or right, and especially given up trying to explain things to others as left or right.

Better to see things as either individualistic or statist/collectivist. And I like to analyze legal matters like by considering stuff like:

-Is there a victim?
-What is the harm, and what is the best form of restitution?
-Is there a complaint from a individual, or is this yet another artificial person bringing charges (eg, the state)
-Is there any evidence to substantiate the claim of criminal wrongdoing? B/c no one can ever be stopped without a solid, specific reason.
-no one can be detained/arrested without evidence and a complaining victim on scene, or a sworn written charge reviewed by a judge or grand jury applying well understood evidential standards
-no search warrant should be issued unless there is a complaining party concerning a crime, who must sign their statement under oath & penalty of perjury, and later make themselves available for cross examination
-every one is innocent until proven guilty by a jury, having been given an fair opportunity to present a defense as the defendant sees fit.
-a person is under no obligations to answer questions, fill out forms, paper work or DO ANYTHING, that could result in charges or conviction

This is what i can think of off the top of my head...there are others of course...

[JeNNiF00F00]

I 've given up trying to see things as left or right, and especially given up trying to explain things to others as left or right.

Better to see things as either individualistic or statist/collectivist. And I like to analyze legal matters like by considering stuff like:

-Is there a victim?
-What is the harm, and what is the best form of restitution?
-Is there a complaint from a individual, or is this yet another artificial person bringing charges (eg, the state)
-Is there any evidence to substantiate the claim of criminal wrongdoing? B/c no one can ever be stopped without a solid, specific reason.
-no one can be detained/arrested without evidence and a complaining victim on scene, or a sworn written charge reviewed by a judge or grand jury applying well understood evidential standards
-no search warrant should be issued unless there is a complaining party concerning a crime, who must sign their statement under oath & penalty of perjury, and later make themselves available for cross examination
-every one is innocent until proven guilty by a jury, having been given an fair opportunity to present a defense as the defendant sees fit.
-a person is under no obligations to answer questions, fill out forms, paper work or DO ANYTHING, that could result in charges or conviction

This is what i can think of off the top of my head...there are others of course...

Well its mainly a pet peeve to me. Because the ones bitching about Lefties are left wing themselves. Anything in terms of growing the government is never good. Using the state to force ones ideologies never turns into anything but tyranny. Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Nationalism, Statism, Collectivism all involve big government in order to succeed. This is something that keeps me up at night most nights. I reflect on it a lot, and try to think of the best possible solution, but I think we are screwed either way.

[sofia]

the Mexican is the new Jew????

really?

I didn't know that Mexicans now run the NY Times/Washington Post/CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS ....or run the Federal Reserve Bank...or the US Treasury...or the most feared Lobby in DC...or Hollywood...

I must have missed this. When did this happen?

[bruce leeroy]

the Mexican is the new Jew????

really?

I didn't know that Mexicans now run the NY Times/Washington Post/CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS ....or run the Federal Reserve Bank...or the US Treasury...or the most feared Lobby in DC...or Hollywood...

I must have missed this. When did this happen?

right after the end of "born in east LA"

[Inflation]

No, racist is the new anti-semite and PC correctness will be the undoing of our days upon the earth.

OMG.

How can you be so Collectivist? Group attributes *never* have any basis in reality.

Stereotypes are always wrong and never funny. Just ask the Ron Paul Newsletter.

Don't you know that acknowledging, discussing and/or responding to the racist collectivists makes you a racist collectivist???

Your collectivism is disgusting, Mr. Collectipants McCollectivist! :mad:

/ Just Kidding! :p

[Smitty]

Mexicans will never be devious enough.

[mikem317]

I thought Muslim was the new Jew. Maybe not Mexican. Probably "immigrant" though.

[catdd]

Jexicans?

[wgadget]

The Jews were NOT illegal aliens in Germany.

Anyone of ANY race who is here illegally brought it on themselves by being the first offender.

[xd9fan]

last I looked the Jews in Germany WHERE LEGAL CITIZENS

[BlackTerrel]

The Jews were NOT illegal aliens in Germany.

Anyone of ANY race who is here illegally brought it on themselves by being the first offender.

Most Hispanics are here legally too.

[silentshout]

I think the original settlers were here illegally as well. But we had guns and those native Americans only had bows and arrows, so I guess that's ok. /s

[AuH20]

I think the original settlers were here illegally as well. But we had guns and those native Americans only had bows and arrows, so I guess that's ok. /s

They were peddling drugs and relying on a monolithic bureaucracy to cater to their every need. I forgot that too. ;)

[John Taylor]

I think the original settlers were here illegally as well. But we had guns and those native Americans only had bows and arrows, so I guess that's ok. /s

What law did the original settler's break? I don't know of any. They settled in a land populated by a tiny scattering of wandering vagrants without a concept of private property rights, and who all claimed, in conflict with one another, collective title to vast swaths of land they could never control or alienate.

[orenbus]

YouTube - Borat - Throw the Jew Down the Well!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo)

[JeNNiF00F00]

last I looked the Jews in Germany WHERE LEGAL CITIZENS

The Jews were seen as "parasites" to Germany, and were also thought of as taking over the economy, because they were out doing the Germans in the work field and capitalizing on the system. So the Germans started making laws for them such as not to be able to participate in owning shops or attending public schools. From what I understand, the Jews were seen as a Jewish race and were not seen as Aryan Germans therefore they weren't legit and didn't fit the mold to the goals of the Nation, which was the Aryan Nation. They were forced to leave or be put in camps.

From there, the Jews began migrating to Israel, where they occupied the state of Israel and called it their own, where now they are bombing the shit out of brown people who do not agree with them in the region.

Tell me how this is any different, than what Hitler did to the Jews? How is this country any different to what Israel has done to the Palestinians? When do we learn, that National Socialism in any form, does not equate Liberty?

[michaelwise]

I thought the blacks were the new Jew an the Mexicans are the wannabe American blacks. NO?

[orenbus]

YouTube - The Rise of Hitler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYrN45ahGg)

[Free Moral Agent]

When do we learn, that National Socialism in any form, does not equate Liberty?

You're right, it doesn't. So why are these groups allowed to partake in socialist programs and not be required to pay taxes for such? Is that liberty?

The Jews of Germany were legal citizens, paid taxes, and some were business owners. You pretty much agree with me that they were hated for their group's relative success to those of the Germans. Its a dishonest analogy to speak of all Mexicans as the new persecuted Jews. I think the hordes of barbarians that flooded the late Roman Empire is a more apt analogy.

[DemocratForLife]

Goodby, all you anti-Semites. The Tea Party, Klanners, neo-Nazis and the rest of your ilk will go down, down, down when more true Americans realize how evil you all are. This is still the land of the free and home of the brave, so love it leave it. Hope you all leave it. Good riddance. And, for good measure, Go Obama. You are one of America's greatest presidents. :(

[boat6868]

I was just thinking about this today...but my thought was that the "corporation" the latest thing upon which the ills of society gets blamed.

[JacobG18]

Goodby, all you anti-Semites. The Tea Party, Klanners, neo-Nazis and the rest of your ilk will go down, down, down when more true Americans realize how evil you all are. This is still the land of the free and home of the brave, so love it leave it. Hope you all leave it. Good riddance. And, for good measure, Go Obama. You are one of America's greatest presidents. :(

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[bruce leeroy]

hell no
aint no jew can make a torta or grow some cannabis like a mexican

[cindy25]

more so the Moslems than the Mexicans.

I hear far more anti-Islamic talk than anti-Mexican

[Zippyjuan]

Kind of strange to pull up a six month old thread for a first post on the forum.

[ClayTrainor]

Kind of strange to pull up a six month old thread for a first post on the forum.

Trolls will be trolls.

I actually should be thanking this troll... I never would've read JenniFOOFOO's excellent enlightening truth-soaked post, if they didn't troll this thread.

Thanks Troll!


I can just see it now. See what happens now is our trusty cops will pull you over for something like the light on your license plate not working. Then when they pull you over, they look at you and ask "Can we search your car for drugs". The person understands their rights and says "No", so then the police officer says "Do you have your citizen papers?". The person says "No", because hes a white guy that thinks hes safe from being asked that question.

So, said person is toted off to jail for not having papers. In the meantime car is searched for drugs anyways, and is torn up because the drug dogs have alerted the cops that there are drugs there so thats what they do, tear your shit up, person is charged for 1 gram of marijuana(which was made illegal originally because of the Mexican immigration "problem").

Person ends up spending 2 days in jail because its the weekend and he has a weekend job that pays great money. Man loses job for missing 2 days work because he was in jail for not having papers, police do research and find he IS a citizen, BUT they catch him on charges for possession of a controlled substance.

Then the citizen ends up paying thousands of dollars in fines, losing his vehicle and gets a permanent record, has problem finding work because of the record, and because he was fired for missing 2 days work for being in jail for the papers thing, and ends up losing out in the end.

All of that because of a light going out, and failure to have papers showing he is a citizen. The law will be used and abused. Just wait. They're already doing this with the Patriot Act, and FISA. They say its for one thing and then use it as a tool to make other charges. Meanwhile, the state becomes larger, and richer because they are profiting off of these arrests.

Now one can say "well he shouldn't have had cannabis". Well the point is cannabis was made illegal because of this Mexicans coming into the US bullshit. The point is, that they continue chipping away at our liberties and using "Illegals" and "terrorism" to do so. As long as we continue to allow this happen, we may end up as a "nation" as some of these pepole here want it. However who wants to live in a "nation" that doesn't allow its people to live and experience liberty??

By supporting this nonsense, people are supporting National Socialism. Its no better than what Germany did to the Jews, and its no better than what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians right now to this day. What hypocrites! The welfare state WILL NOT END as long as you give them the power and resources to keep it running. When the state has the power to arrest just about anyone, the money starts adding up and the United States corporate empire will continue to grow.

[amy31416]

Oye carumba!

[low preference guy]

Oye carumba!

haha. is that on purpose? it's ay caramba!

[amy31416]

haha. is that on purpose? it's ay caramba!

Look at the title and take a guess. ;)

[nobody's_hero]

"Hitler" wins either way folks.

We give the state more powers to fight the illegal immigration and then we get the tables turned on us.

or:

We ignore the illegal immigration problem until one day, 50,000,000 new voters are created by an executive order and then the state gets more power, and the tables get turned on us.