View Full Version : Eligibility challenger (Lt. Col.) to go public today
lynnf
04-20-2010, 03:57 AM
this article refers to the event occurring "tomorrow", which I believe means today
4-20-10.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=143021
You'll have chance to speak directly with Army officer
The officer refusing Army orders until Barack Obama documents his eligibility to be president and commander in chief is hitting the airwaves today to answer questions about his challenge to the president.
Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is scheduled to be on the G. Gordon Liddy show tomorrow from 10-11 a.m. EDT.
lynnf
04-20-2010, 04:03 PM
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=143021
Army officer 'flagged' for challenging Obama
An attorney for an officer refusing all Army orders until Barack Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief is documented says his client formally has been "flagged" by the military and the formal filing of charges is expected within days.
Attorney Paul Jensen today was on the radio show of G. Gordon Liddy with his client, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who has told Obama in a letter that it's up to him to provide the proof.
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lynnf
04-22-2010, 05:23 PM
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=144389
Officer demanding proof of eligibility accused of failing to report for duty
The U.S. Army has filed two charges against Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who earlier posted a video inviting that action, over his refusal to follow orders until Barack Obama documents his eligibility to be commander-in-chief.
The documents, filed today and posted on the SafeguardOurConstitution website, which is generating support for the officer, cite alleged violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice Articles 87 and 92.
Aratus
04-23-2010, 09:06 AM
i am following this story...
i still think the guy wants
out and did what came
to him as a bright idea!
Krugerrand
04-23-2010, 09:21 AM
i am following this story...
i still think the guy wants
out and did what came
to him as a bright idea!
that's certainly possible ... but he sure stand a lot to lose.
Stary Hickory
04-23-2010, 09:51 AM
that's certainly possible ... but he sure stand a lot to lose.
Officers can get out of the military quite easily. It's not like enlisted folks who are stuck. His movtive is not to simply just avoid duty. It is probably the most stupid and retarded way to try and do it. There are many options that are less painful and quite legal if that was his goal.
Bruno
04-23-2010, 09:53 AM
Officers can get out of the military quite easily. It's not like enlisted folks who are stuck. His movtive is not to simply just avoid duty. It is probably the most stupid and retarded way to try and do it. There are many options that are less painful and quite legal if that was his goal.
Obviously an opinion he doesn't share. He believes the eligibility of his President who is givin him orders is important.
erowe1
04-23-2010, 10:13 AM
If this guy wants to win his case, he has to be able to prove that Obama's not a natural born citizen. I wonder how he intends to do that, because people have been at that for awhile, and so far nobody has succeeded.
Krugerrand
04-23-2010, 10:17 AM
If this guy wants to win his case, he has to be able to prove that Obama's not a natural born citizen. I wonder how he intends to do that, because people have been at that for awhile, and so far nobody has succeeded.
Are you sure on this? Or, would innocent until proven guilty push the reverse burden onto the prosecution?
Stary Hickory
04-23-2010, 10:18 AM
Obviously an opinion he doesn't share. He believes the eligibility of his President who is givin him orders is important.
Retarded as in the most dangerous and complicated. I was responding to the fact he is doing this simply to get out of duty....in that case this would be the most retarded way to escape duty as there are many other less painful and public ways to get out of duty.
Bruno
04-23-2010, 10:22 AM
Retarded as in the most dangerous and complicated. I was responding to the fact he is doing this simply to get out of duty....in that case this would be the most retarded way to escape duty as there are many other less painful and public ways to get out of duty.
How do you know that?
"It's by far the most difficult thing I've ever done," Lakin said. "The Lord blessed me with a great family, wife and good upbringing. I've tried to uphold the principles espoused by my parents and do the right thing and not take the easy way out. I just seek the truth."
"My motivation stems from my oath of office to defend and uphold the Constitution," Lakin said. "It's the Constitution. That needs to be upheld."
erowe1
04-23-2010, 10:37 AM
Are you sure on this? Or, would innocent until proven guilty push the reverse burden onto the prosecution?
The proof of guilt is proof that this guy disobeyed orders or went AWOL or whatever the charge is. It's not proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. When you join the military you agree to give up your rights and follow orders. If somebody doesn't do that, there are consequences they already agreed to. If somebody thinks they have a legitimate reason for doing that because Obama isn't a natural born citizen, then the burden's on them. The Constitution doesn't say anything about long form birth certificates or whatever else this guy mistakenly thinks is in there.
Krugerrand
04-23-2010, 10:57 AM
The proof of guilt is proof that this guy disobeyed orders or went AWOL or whatever the charge is. It's not proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. When you join the military you agree to give up your rights and follow orders. If somebody doesn't do that, there are consequences they already agreed to. If somebody thinks they have a legitimate reason for doing that because Obama isn't a natural born citizen, then the burden's on them. The Constitution doesn't say anything about long form birth certificates or whatever else this guy mistakenly thinks is in there.
If you'll pardon my "A Few Good Men" approach ... military can be prosecuted for following orders if the orders are illegal.
Is the prosecution immune from having to prove the orders to be legal?
That said, it seems if the Supreme Court swears in the President, that is the judicial system's acknowledgment of legitimacy.
Maximilian American
04-23-2010, 11:28 AM
This is a courageous expression of civil disobedience. No one will be unjustly harmed in this situation, and a positive outcome is possible. More of this kind of civil disobedience can influence and change policy.
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