Notice all the media hype this year about Oklahoma bombing anniversary?

[sofia]

media is trying hard to remind us of the day a "right wing terrorist" bombed Oklahoma building.....

are we supposed to associate Tea Partiers with this?

[cpike]

Rare I sit down to just watch the news anymore, just keep up online. That being said, it's extremely annoying when they are cast as right-wing when a true conservative has the utmost respect for life.

[MelissaWV]

The five and ten year anniversaries were pretty big, too.

This being the fifteenth anniversary means there are lots of little kids now old enough to interview who survived the daycare portion of things.

I'm sure that has nothing to do with it, though.

[catdd]

You will hardly hear a peep from them when the anniversary of the SS Liberty attack comes around in june.

[kahless]

I do not remember hearing about it so much in other years so I was thinking along the same lines. The progressives are hoping people will connect the Tea Parties with Tim McVeigh.

[sofia]

You will hardly hear a peep from them when the anniversary of the SS Liberty attack comes around in june.

USS Liberty and Oklahoma bombing were both Israeli operations.

Israeli Art Students have been caught casing Federal buildings

[catdd]

USS Liberty and Oklahoma bombing were both Israeli operations.

Israeli Art Students have been caught casing Federal buildings

But they don't have a right winger to blame for the attack on the Liberty so you won't hear anything from the media.

[sofia]

But they don't have a right winger to blame for the attack on the Liberty so you won't hear anything from the media.

But if the Liberty had gone to the bottom of the sea with all hands on deck like it was supposed to.....Israel would have sent condolences and we'd still be blaming Egypt

[Anti Federalist]

Of course you hear nothing about what Patriot's Day is supposed to commemorate.

And of course there are never any teary eyed media memorials for the dead and butchered of Waco.

[MelissaWV]

You will hardly hear a peep from them when the anniversary of the SS Liberty attack comes around in june.

How many peeps will you hear about 9/11, though, in 2011?

The Government picks and chooses which events are "worth remembering," obviously, but I don't see anything that unusual about the OKC coverage on its own.

The media decides a lot of stupid shit. Haiti relief efforts were massive, and I understand there was a huge loss of life, but Chile hardly needed the help, so after a little while it faded from the news. China? There was an earthquake there? Oh, sorry, the news was busy covering the volcano in Iceland. Economic impact trumps loss of life, after all, and those were mostly Tibetans... I mean who cares about those people? What's a couple of thousand dead... I mean there's billions of Chinese! Elections? Eh. You hear a rumbling here or there and that's it. You hear the Government demanding money from Toyota, and now from Goldman-Sachs... but you don't hear the rest of the story there. Look here, don't look there, and so on.

This is why we each need to do our own research and keep up with the news ourselves :)

But yeah... I'd expect the 15th anniversary to be "big" in the news, and I expect a lot of interviewing people who were little kids at the time, and so on.

[Anti Federalist]

Southern Poverty Law Center had informants at Elohim City.

Declassified FBI memo
reveals twists in probe
Info to be used by Nichols' attorneys
to implicate others in mass murder
Posted: January 06, 2004
5:00 pm Eastern

© 2010 WorldNetDaily.com

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36475

A recently declassified FBI memo obtained by an Oklahoma newspaper contains several revelations concerning the Oklahoma City bombing investigation that could give attorneys for co-conspirator Terry Nichols ammunition to argue in his next trial in March that there were more than just two people involved in the crime.

The memo, transmitted electronically, was sent to the OKBOMB investigation task force and a select group of FBI offices around the nation eight months after the devastating 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, reports the McCurtain Daily Gazette.

One of the revelations was the involvement of civil-rights attorney Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center in an informant operation. According to the memo, the SPLC was involved in monitoring subjects for the FBI believed to be linked to now-executed bomber Timothy McVeigh, the neo-Nazi compound at Elohim City and the mysterious German national Andreas Carl Strassmeir.

The Daily Gazette says the memo, dated Jan. 4, 1996, was heavily redacted. It mentions individuals the FBI believed were involved in two cases – OKBOMB, the probe of the OKC bombing, and BOMBROB, which involved a wide-ranging search for a group of neo-Nazi bank robbers in the mid-1990s.

Six people eventually were arrested in connecting with the BOMBROB investigation, the paper reported, all of whom had ties to Elohim City.

Only two people have been charged in relation to the OKC bombing: McVeigh and Nichols. But attorneys for Nichols, who faces 161 counts of first-degree murder on top of a federal life-sentence conviction, likely will use the opportunity of his upcoming trial to implicate others in the crime, an act that took the lives of 168 people.

The paper reports that the memo mentioned Strassmeir, though his name was redacted. The German national was sought in early 1995 after in informant told authorities about an alleged plot by Elohim City to bomb federal facilities and kill a large number of people. Strassmeir has extensive military know-how and was acknowledged to have provided terrorist training to residents of the white-supremacist compound.

Controversy over a planned raid of Elohim City stalled efforts to arrest Strassmeir, who eventually made his way to the safety of his politically connected family in Berlin, the Daily Gazette reported.

The paper says one statement in the memo casts doubt on the theory that Nichols was a conspirator in the bombing.

Wrote then-FBI Director Louis Freeh: "Prior OKBOMB investigation determined that (name redacted) had placed a telephone call to (name redacted) on 4/5/95 a day that he was believed to have been attempting to recruit a second conspirator to assist in the OKBOMB attack."

The statement in the memo describing a phone call placed by McVeigh suggests he was still searching for a partner a mere two weeks before the bombing. Federal officials have argued, however, that Nichols was deeply involved in the plot as far back as September 1994.

The involvement of the SPLC is mentioned in the following quote from the memo:

"(Name redacted) telephone call from (name redacted) on or about 4/17/95, two days prior to the OKBOMB attack, when (name redacted) of the SPLC, was in the white supremacist compound at (redacted), Oklahoma, notes the director."

The Daily Gazette reports, "References to an informant working for the SPLC at Elohim City on the eve of the Oklahoma City bombing raises serious questions as to what the SPLC might know about McVeigh's activities during the final hours before the fuse was lit in Oklahoma City – but which the SPLC has failed to disclose publicly."

Dees confirmed the presence of an informant at Elohim City at a recent press conference, the paper reported.

"If I told you what we were doing there, I would have to kill you," Dees replied when asked to explain.

Dees has been critical of the so-called right-wing militia movement in the U.S., having written books and articles about the subject. His critics believe the attacks have been exploitive and designed to raise donations for his tax-exempt foundation.

"A lot of hate groups don't like me," Dees said. "I'll tell you … when you put them out of business and take their double-wides (mobile homes), they don't like it. We've sued a lot of these vicious hate groups over the years."

Attorney Stephen Jones, who represented McVeigh at trial in Denver, Colo., told the Daily Gazette he was not provided this information from the government despite repeated motions filed with the court.

"We filed motions with the judge specifically asking for details of surveillance activities at Elohim City and other places. We were told by prosecutors that they had no records. Now you have some of them," Jones told the paper.

"Also, as you know the FBI kept saying they had no information linking McVeigh to Elohim City beyond the one phone call on April 5. Well, as you can see, there's much more than that here."

The FBI stands by its position there was no one else involved in the bomb attack.

"We arrested everyone in this crime, and these conspiracy stories just waste our time," Gary Johnson, a spokesman for the Oklahoma City FBI office told the paper.

Speculation has swirled about a larger group of people having been involved in the bombing. As WorldNetDaily reported, Oklahoma City attorney John M. Johnston said in 2002 he and others had gathered a "mountain" of evidence that implicates Iraq in both the Oklahoma City bombings and the Sept. 11 attacks.

[acptulsa]

Part of it is, of course, the new memorial, which is nice.

I remember that day well. I remember being the first in my family to get a phone line into The City to check on my relations (all just fine) and spreading the word. I remember Pizza Hut for bringing pizza to the people waiting in line to donate blood, as the lines were so long they would otherwise have been too long without a meal by the time their turn came to donate. And I remember the faces of the suspects hitting the news so fast, and the news being so adamant about it being them, that it was like Lee Harvey Oswald all over again...

[BlackTerrel]

You will hardly hear a peep from them when the anniversary of the SS Liberty attack comes around in june.

It only happened about two decades before I was born but let's keep it up. It is the single most important part of US history according to many here.

I wonder how many Chinese bring up the US bombing of their embassy in Belgrade in 1999?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_bombing_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China_emb assy_in_Belgrade


USS Liberty and Oklahoma bombing were both Israeli operations.

Israeli Art Students have been caught casing Federal buildings

The correct answer to every question is Israel.