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Reason
04-15-2010, 07:25 PM
I'm surprised the govt. hasn't manufactured any "evidence"...

YouTube - Government doesnt have a case against Hutaree, ALL BULLSH*T ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSx7nZQC2VI)

pcosmar
04-15-2010, 07:40 PM
They don't need evidence for the media show and propaganda campaign.
Smear tactics are working quite well.
There is an ongoing effort to demonize the militia and patriots in general.

TPTB don't like opposition.
:(

Reason
04-15-2010, 08:23 PM
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Endgame
04-15-2010, 08:34 PM
As I suspected. They changed their story a thousand times in the first week. Crack cocaine, buying pipe bombs (lolwut?), full autos, plotting to kill Muslims, plotting to overthrow the Federal Government with 12 people...

phill4paul
04-15-2010, 08:38 PM
No longer in fatiques but in shackles.... Message sent.

bbnThe government described a "rag-tag" group that had trouble building any explosives..."

"Couldn't obtain the material they needed for various operation..."

Contradiction...."The government ...confiscated materials that could have been used to make bombs,,,"

phill4paul
04-15-2010, 08:41 PM
As I suspected. They changed their story a thousand times in the first week. Crack cocaine, buying pipe bombs (lolwut?), full autos, plotting to kill Muslims, plotting to overthrow the Federal Government with 12 people...

The message intended was sent. The government can manufacture what ever "evidence" it chooses. The first news reports will be government "leaks". Trial by media is complete.

pcosmar
04-15-2010, 08:41 PM
The story changed in the first day, from pipe bombs to Muslims to cop killers.
They had them set up at a controlled location. The armored vehicles , aircraft and massive firepower were a show for the media.

It is meant to demonize the militia and all dissent.

Same game plan as the 90s.

Reason
04-15-2010, 08:42 PM
so you think it was just an intimidation op?

pcosmar
04-15-2010, 08:44 PM
Yes,
And setting the stage for the next event.
They will escalate this.

phill4paul
04-15-2010, 08:47 PM
so you think it was just an intimidation op?

Yep.

phill4paul
04-15-2010, 08:51 PM
Yes,
And setting the stage for the next event.
They will escalate this.

Quite. Fear is the political motivation of the day. What truly scares me is that the worst threat to America is such a small fry militia.
That says to me that there are larger fish.
Actual threats that they are not "outing."
Prepare for a false flag.

moostraks
04-15-2010, 09:39 PM
Yes,
And setting the stage for the next event.
They will escalate this.

absolutely...:(

Reason
04-16-2010, 10:48 PM
anyone heard anything more on this?

catdd
04-16-2010, 10:56 PM
I think the Feds are preparing for all out war with the militias and wanted to cut their teeth on a small insignificant group before taking on the big boys.

amy31416
04-28-2010, 07:58 AM
http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20100428/NEWS02/4280343/-1/rss


Article published April 28, 2010
FBI agent short on details on militia inquiry
ASSOCIATED PRESS

DETROIT - An FBI agent who led the investigation of nine Michigan militia members charged with trying to launch war against the federal government couldn't recall many details of the two-year probe yesterday during questioning by defense lawyers.

Even the judge who must decide whether to release the nine until trial was puzzled.

"I share the frustrations of the defense team … that she doesn't know anything," U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts said after agent Leslie Larsen confessed she hadn't reviewed her notes recently and couldn't remember specific details of the case.

Judge Roberts is hearing an appeal of another judge's order that has kept members of so-called Hutaree militia in jail since their arrest in late March.

The indictment says the nine planned to kill police officers as a steppingstone to a widespread uprising against the federal government.

Defense lawyers, however, say their clients are being punished for being outspoken.

Prosecutors fought to keep Ms. Larsen off the witness stand, saying the defendants had no legal right to question her.

But the judge said the agent's appearance was appropriate because the burden is on defense lawyers to show their clients won't be a threat to the public if released.

The nine lawyers asked specific questions about each defendant. Ms. Larsen said she had not listened entirely to certain recordings made by an undercover agent who infiltrated the group.

She said that because they were still being examined, she didn't know if weapons seized by investigators last month were illegal.

At other times, Ms. Larsen couldn't answer questions because she said she hadn't reviewed investigative reports.

Defense lawyer William Swor asked if the No. 1 defendant, Hutaree leader David Stone, had ever instructed anyone to make a bomb.

"I can't fully answer that question," the agent replied.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Jonathan Tukel defended Ms. Larsen, telling the judge it wasn't clear until Monday that she would testify.

Judge Roberts, however, said she told the government to be prepared last week.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Ronald Waterstreet played an audiotape of what he said were several militia members talking freely about killing police.

The participants talked over each other, often laughed and made goofy noises and disparaging remarks about law enforcement.

Prosecutors objected to questions about interpreting the secretly recorded conversations, but the judge said they were fair game.

The judge will resume the court hearing today.

Prosecutors will have a chance to question people who are willing to be responsible for some of the nine if they are released from jail.

Weird.