H.R. 4995 - End The Mandate!

[pcosmar]

I'm looking for the announcement or any news.

This could neuter ObamaCare and give Dr. Paul a boost with the GOP all at the same time.

Heads up all.
:cool:

[GunnyFreedom]

Yeah, we need to push THIS one like we pushed RP08 -- or even harder! A victory on this point will dramatically increase results from a possible RP12 no joke...

[Elwar]

I hate to say this, but all of the Republican calls for anything to kill the Health Care bill is a bit disengenuous. Even running on the platform of "elect the Republicans this fall so that we can kill this Health Care bill" is more political than anything.

Republicans would still need 60 votes in the Senate to kill the Health Care bill. They won't be getting that this year. They could probably get a majority in each, but not the 60 in the senate that they'd need.

[pcosmar]

I hate to say this, but all of the Republican calls for anything to kill the Health Care bill is a bit disengenuous. Even running on the platform of "elect the Republicans this fall so that we can kill this Health Care bill" is more political than anything.

Republicans would still need 60 votes in the Senate to kill the Health Care bill. They won't be getting that this year. They could probably get a majority in each, but not the 60 in the senate that they'd need.

Agreed, It won't be killed.
But this could neuter it. Nullify it for many.
It would also boost Dr. Paul with the party, which wouldn't hurt.

[Romulus]

This is WIN for RP - needs to be done and promoted!

[TortoiseDream]

We gotta push this HARD.

[TXcarlosTX]

We gotta push this HARD.

Do you think we can get Sant N Pepa on board?


YouTube - salt n pepa - push it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25BlzbPU0FQ)

[Elwar]

Agreed, It won't be killed.
But this could neuter it. Nullify it for many.
It would also boost Dr. Paul with the party, which wouldn't hurt.

Neutering it or any changes to it would still require 60 votes in the Senate. :(

[itshappening]

I hope Ron is able to get media coverage for this, we need a big push

[dr. hfn]

I'll start pushing this, but the C4L is also trying to run a massive online ad campaign for Audit the Fed, send them a donation!

[ravedown]

I hope Ron is able to get media coverage for this, we need a big push

there was a segment on fox news this morning with ron (via skype) about the opt-out. surprised nobody has mentioned it yet- but it was cool, the hosts was saying how hard it will be for republicans to be against this.

[Bruno]

there was a segment on fox news this morning with ron (via skype) about the opt-out. surprised nobody has mentioned it yet- but it was cool, the hosts was saying how hard it will be for republicans to be against this.

this. put up or shut up

[TC95]

Neutering it or any changes to it would still require 60 votes in the Senate. :(

True. But if all the democrats get voted out who would vote against it, then the republicans that replace them will HAVE to vote for it or they'll be replaced with democrats next time around. Republicans are the ones who are telling us they're gonna repeal the bill, so if they were to vote against it, they'd pretty much be toast and they know it.

[pcosmar]

I believe that this option would also pull a few Dem. votes too.
it is possible.

[RM918]

We can only hope. The Audit the Fed bill has enormous support in Congress and they won't even let it out of committee!

[Anti Federalist]

We can only hope. The Audit the Fed bill has enormous support in Congress and they won't even let it out of committee!

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince government, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

[itshappening]

is it today? BIG push required on this !

[GunnyFreedom]

From Facebook: "Ron Paul I am dropping my End the Mandate bill tonight that will repeal the requirement that all Americans purchase health insurance. Hopefully, it will be as successful as Audit the Fed!"

3 minutes ago 51 comments, 339 people like this

http://www.facebook.com/ronpaul

[Bruno]

From Facebook: "Ron Paul I am dropping my End the Mandate bill tonight that will repeal the requirement that all Americans purchase health insurance. Hopefully, it will be as successful as Audit the Fed!"

3 minutes ago 51 comments, 339 people like this

http://www.facebook.com/ronpaul

Awesome news!

thanks for fixing the spelling errors already pointed out. :)

[Erazmus]

Nice! Great news!

[yokna7]

He will have even more co-sponsors, but the success of the bill is very questionable.

[pcosmar]

Good news.
That's what I was looking for.

[Anti Federalist]

Now we'll see where the sluts of the GOP are.

There's no excuse for not every single GOP representative and later, senator, signing on to this.

[itshappening]

Go Ron Go!!

[Brian Defferding]

Ending the tax mandate does a hell of a lot of good, this means we will see many opting out of insurance when the prices continue to increase, and more doctors will start accepting non-insurance patients.

This bill should be passed immediately.

[Bruno]

He will have even more co-sponsors, but the success of the bill is very questionable.

So was HR1207, and still is. But look how many people got behind it. Success can be measured in a number of ways.

[ctiger2]

now we'll see where the sluts of the gop are.

There's no excuse for not every single gop representative and later, senator, signing on to this.

we have a bingo!

[GunnyFreedom]

"Who's looking out for YOU, baby?"

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

"Who's looking out for YOU, baby?"

:)

[GunnyFreedom]

I am pretty sure that "dropping" is different from "introducing," but when this bill is introduced, we need to have MAD video of the event, along with a record of the attempt to refer it to the committee on rules, and the recorded vote for said attempt to kill the bill in committee.

[KCIndy]

I am pretty sure that "dropping" is different from "introducing," but when this bill is introduced, we need to have MAD video of the event, along with a record of the attempt to refer it to the committee on rules, and the recorded vote for said attempt to kill the bill in committee.


This needs HUGE publicity, for sure. I wonder if a call-in drive to national and local media would produce any effect? It would be nice to see Dr. Paul's name associated with something this big and important. AND it would help disperse some of the "loony" comments. After all, how loony is it to oppose something that is also opposed by a majority of the American people?

[rancher89]

Woot!

[freshjiva]

Now we'll see where the sluts of the GOP are.

There's no excuse for not every single GOP representative and later, senator, signing on to this.

Haha! This post really made me laugh out loud. "Sluts of the GOP" lol!
I love your posts, Anti Federalist! :D

[Pepsi]

what is the bill number and name?

[Uriel999]

Hell yes!

[dr. hfn]

"droping" ?!!?!? Are you fucking serious?!!? Who the hell is running that Facebook!?!!?

[KramerDSP]

Matt Hawes:

"Congressman Paul has officially introduced his legislation to repeal the federal health insurance mandate. The bill (officially titled "End the Mandate") number is HR 4995, and the text should be on the Library of Congress' Thomas website very soon."

[Don't Tread on Mike]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! End The Fed, and End the Mandate!

[BenIsForRon]

This is great news, can't wait to contribute to the torrent of emails and phonecalls to congressmen in the future.

[GunnyFreedom]

Facebook group for HR 4995 "End The Mandate"

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112585358764635

[..PAUL4PRES..]

He is a very good doctor.

[RileyE104]

The Hannity forum comments on this are very accepting of Ron..
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1915711

Are these people who already support him, or is Ron actually getting these people to accept him finally?

[GunnyFreedom]

Facebook group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112585358764635

Spread it as far and wide as you can!

This will be an EXCELLENT opportunity for Paulian outreach!!!

[RileyE104]

I know this has been discussed on the forums already since the announcement that this bill was coming, but this is GREAT!

This bill presents Ron with a really sweet opportunity to rally the ENTIRE Republican Party behind him, as well as draw attention from all the People in this country who have either still not heard of him before or normally don't care for him.

If this bill passes, I'm pretty sure Ron's chances in 2012 will skyrocket.

The Republican Party better stand up and back Ron on this, otherwise they're passing up the chance to gain back the American People's support. This is the chance to finally tell President Obama, NO YOU CAN'T!

This is great.. The CPAC win, the SRLC results, HR 1207, now this bill. Combined with all of the warnings Ron gave in the 2008 election and the past 30 years... This is sparking a great deal of hope inside of me! I'm glad that I'll finally be able to vote for a President come 2012, and I'm looking forward to casting my first vote for President for RP. :D

[DjLoTi]

I hope enough republicans can fully understand this opportunity and the value that Ron Paul is bringing to our party. I hope the MSM or something covers this... this is a major move by Dr. Paul. ;)

[GunnyFreedom]

Y'all can help by driving just stupid volumes of traffic to the Facebook group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112585358764635 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112585358764635) ;)

[KramerDSP]

I googled H.R. 4995, and found the Sean Hannity Forums talking about this. I think I'm in bizarro world.

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1915711

[Paulitical Correctness]

Ya'll ready for some fax bombs? :D

[tnvoter]

Woohoo!

[tnvoter]

Facebook group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112585358764635

Spread it as far and wide as you can!

This will be an EXCELLENT opportunity for Paulian outreach!!!

Make sure to invite your friends to this group.

[free1]

officially titled "End the Mandate" number is HR 4995 !

[dr. hfn]

Ya'll ready for some fax bombs? :D

hell.ya.

[specsaregood]

The official text is online now.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.4995:


End the Mandate Act of 2010 (Introduced in House)
HR 4995 IH
111th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. R. 4995
To restore the American people's freedom to choose the health insurance that best meets their individual needs by repealing the mandate that all Americans obtain government-approved health insurance.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
April 13, 2010
Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means, and in addition to the Committee on Education and Labor, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A BILL
To restore the American people's freedom to choose the health insurance that best meets their individual needs by repealing the mandate that all Americans obtain government-approved health insurance.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `End the Mandate Act of 2010'.

SEC. 2. REPEAL OF INDIVIDUAL AND EMPLOYER MANDATES ENACTED BY PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.

(a) Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act- Effective as of the enactment of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, subtitle F of title I of such Act, as amended by title X of such Act, is hereby repealed.

(b) Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010- Effective as of the enactment of the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, sections 1002 and 1003 of such Act are hereby repealed.


PDF LINK: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4995ih.txt.pdf

It already has 1 cosponsor: Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 4/14/2010

[GunnyFreedom]

The official text is online now.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.4995: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.4995:)


PDF LINK: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/t2GPO/http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4995ih.txt.pdf (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/t2GPO/http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4995ih.txt.pdf)

It already has 1 cosponsor: Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 4/14/2010

This not a surprise, actually. lol :D

[itshappening]

can we get some media coverage?

[rprprs]

Apparently, the pdf link must not be working properly.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4995ih.txt.pdf

I followed the link and read the bill.
But ovbiously something is missing. :confused:

Where's the other 2,000 pages!? :eek:

[GunnyFreedom]

can we get some media coverage?

The Revolution will not be televised...

[Paulitical Correctness]

16 cosponsors.

[Juan McCain]

16 cosponsors.

Lets aim to make this the issue for the General Election . . . and Ron Paul 2012

Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 4/21/2010
Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/11/2010
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 5/6/2010
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 4/26/2010
Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 4/21/2010
Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] - 4/21/2010
Rep Jenkins, Lynn [KS-2] - 4/20/2010
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 4/20/2010
Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 4/26/2010
Rep McClintock, Tom [CA-4] - 4/21/2010
Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 5/11/2010
Rep Posey, Bill [FL-15] - 4/21/2010
Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 5/5/2010
Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3] - 4/22/2010
Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 4/14/2010
Rep Young, Don [AK] - 5/18/2010

[GunnyFreedom]

Well, I tried to sent a FB message on our "End The Mandate" FB group (up to 5,889 members now) and it seems the "Message All members" link has disappeared.....

[GunnyFreedom]

Sweet! NC once again is ahead of the curve on this....

[Paulitical Correctness]

I know there are dozens of different things going on, but let's all send letters to our reps about this. That's how we got all the momentum for auditing the fed.

Remember for HR1207 we had templates for people to use? Feel free to post those (and any replies you get back!) here.

[Paulitical Correctness]

18 cosponsors.

[GunnyFreedom]

Cosponsors:

Rodney Alexander [R-LA5]
John Boozman [R-AR3]
Paul Broun [R-GA10]
John Carter [R-TX31]
John Duncan [R-TN2]
Ralph Hall [R-TX4]
Peter Hoekstra [R-MI2]
Lynn Jenkins [R-KS2]
Walter Jones [R-NC3]
Doug Lamborn [R-CO5]
Tom McClintock [R-CA4]
Cathy McMorris Rodgers [R-WA5]
Sue Myrick [R-NC9]
Bill Posey [R-FL15]
Michael Simpson [R-ID2]
Mark Souder [R-IN3]
Todd Tiahrt [R-KS4]
Donald Young [R-AK]

ETA- NC and TX each have 2 of the 18. Considering how much more representation TX has than NC, I'm just a little bit proud of my mostly screwed up state lol ETAA: Kansas too

[Paulitical Correctness]

19.

[Paulitical Correctness]

20.

[JVParkour]

I've been calling Boehner's Office a lot about this, (I live in his district.)

I convinced a staffer to personally give him my message, which is cool, and I am going to follow up in 2 days.

Here is the IMPORTANT NEWS. The staffer, while explaining to me what the reasons might be that Boehner has not co-sponsored End the Mandate, said that "Well, I see that Ron Paul introduced the bill. A lot of times Boehner is hesitant to co-sponsor bills that Ron Paul introduces because he deviates from the Republicans alot. I am not saying that is the reason, but that has happened in the past."

Those were not his exact words, but very close. I found it ridiculous that the house minority leader blatantly doesn't support bills for the sole reason that Ron Paul introduced them.

Just thought yall should know. I will also update in 2 days with what the staffers update is.

[Paulitical Correctness]

22.

Update JV?

[low preference guy]

didn't pass

[kahless]

Update JV?

Received a mailing from CFL promoting HR4995 today. Perhaps my memory is bad since I had thought I had received and signed the same petition they sent back in April.

[Bern]

Instead of just focusing on the mandate, we should be cancelling the entire abortion.

"To repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act."
H.R. 4972 (104 co-sponsors) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h.r.4972:)
S. 3152 (21 co-sponsors) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:SN03152:)

[Stary Hickory]

I hate to say this, but all of the Republican calls for anything to kill the Health Care bill is a bit disengenuous. Even running on the platform of "elect the Republicans this fall so that we can kill this Health Care bill" is more political than anything.

Republicans would still need 60 votes in the Senate to kill the Health Care bill. They won't be getting that this year. They could probably get a majority in each, but not the 60 in the senate that they'd need.

No it has to be done after 2012 elections. They would need both houses and the presidency. And they will probably get it. They had better repeal the HC bill(not a ***ing law to me) and then they had better pull back our troops and practice some "conservatism" in international policy.