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ctiger2
04-11-2010, 03:43 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/metal_are_in_the_pits_2arTlGNbMK7mb1uJeVHb0O


There is no silver lining to the activities of JPMorgan Chase and HSBC in the precious-metals market here and in London, says a 40-year veteran of the metal pits.

The banks, which do the Federal Reserve's bidding in the metals markets, have long been the government's lead actors in keeping down the prices of gold and silver, according to a former Goldman Sachs trader working at the London Bullion Market Association.

Maguire was scheduled to testify last week before the Commodities Futures Trade Commission, which is looking into the activities of large banks in the metals market, but was knocked off the list at the last moment. So, he went public.
APBrokers and traders transact gold futures on the Comex floor of The New York Mercantile Exchange, Thursday, April 6, 2006. Gold prices topped $600 an ounce in Comex trading Thursday.

Brokers and traders transact gold futures on the Comex floor of The New York Mercantile Exchange, Thursday, April 6, 2006. Gold prices topped $600 an ounce in Comex trading Thursday.

Maguire -- in an exclusive interview with The Post -- explained JPMorgan's role in the metals pits in both London and here, and how they can generate a profit either way the market moves.

"JPMorgan acts as an agent for the Federal Reserve; they act to halt the rise of gold and silver against the US dollar. JPMorgan is insulated from potential losses [on their short positions] by the Fed and/or the US taxpayer," Maguire said.

In the gold pits, Maguire sees HSBC betting against the precious metal's price without having any skin in the game in the form of a naked short.

"HSBC conducts an ongoing manipulative concentrated naked short position in gold. Silver is much easier to manipulate due to its much smaller [market] size," Maguire added.

"No one at JPMorgan is familiar with Andrew Maguire," said Brian Marchiony, a company spokesman. HSBC declined to comment.

Also during the CFTC hearing, Jeff Christian, founder of the commodities firm CPM Group, said that the LBMA, the physical delivery market for gold and silver in the UK, has been using leverage, which is another way to depress the price of gold and silver.

Christian said that the LBMA -- the same market Maguire trades in -- has leverage of about 100-1 on the gold bars settled on the exchange. In layman's terms, that means if 100 clients requested their bullion bars be delivered, the exchange could only give one client the precious metal.

The remaining requests would have to be settled for cash equivalent. "That is tantamount to a default on the trade," says Bill Murphy, chairman of the Gold Antitrust Action committee.

Maguire goes further and calls it a fraud: "If you sell something you do not own, then that is fraud."

Back in 2007, Morgan Stanley agreed to settle a $4.4-million lawsuit brought by precious-metal clients, who alleged that Morgan offered to buy gold and silver and store it for the investors, but never purchased any metal and still charged them storage fees.

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tmosley
04-11-2010, 04:07 PM
Woot!

ctiger2
04-11-2010, 05:53 PM
Supposedly NYT and WSJ are next in line.

devil21
04-11-2010, 11:54 PM
Im seriously wondering if there's going to be a pullback this time or whether these revelations, particularly in the MSM, are going to set a new floor on PMs.

PeacePlan
04-12-2010, 12:11 AM
Im seriously wondering if there's going to be a pullback this time or whether these revelations, particularly in the MSM, are going to set a new floor on PMs.

Gold/Silver tend to do well till the end of April and then sell off until fall. This time may be different - we will have to wait and see?

Fox McCloud
04-12-2010, 12:57 AM
if this ever hits it big time and Congress investigates....and they do truly find the Fed is behind it (of course they are, I'm just saying that excuse could be made for the Fed or documents destroyed implicating them), this is going to devastate the Fed's already shaky credibility.

If this happens, I'm not sure, what, exactly would happen....gold will go up, for sure, because it'll be seen that supply is way to the left of where it is currently, and the whole publicity could also drive demand higher as well.

what could make that doubly ugly is if the Fed really is found to be the source of it; this would be a huge blow to the USD, confidence wise, which, well, would send gold even higher.

The Fed better play their cards well, or it could get real dirty, real nasty, and really messy really fast for them.

tmosley
04-12-2010, 06:08 AM
Gold/Silver tend to do well till the end of April and then sell off until fall. This time may be different - we will have to wait and see?

Seasonality was only in force when India was the world's largest gold/silver consumer. This is no longer the case, as China surpassed them.