View Full Version : Is the job market really that tight out there, or is there something wrong with me?
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:05 PM
Dammit, job search still turning up nothing. I've been looking for months now and only landed about 4-5 interviews. I hate not working and not making money. THIS SUCKS BALLS!!!!!
Where da jobs at?
My dad just retired from the military and he is looking for a job too. Smart guy, good resume, but no job yet! :X
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:08 PM
Dammit, job search still turning up nothing. I've been looking for months now and only landed about 4-5 interviews. I hate not working and not making money. THIS SUCKS BALLS!!!!!
Where da jobs at?
I'll find you any job you want for a % of your pay. I'm really good at job hunting :)
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:09 PM
Fuck me.
Bout to apply at fast food joint. Gotta flip them burgers mang.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:10 PM
Fuck me.
Bout to apply at fast food joint. Gotta flip them burgers mang.
lol. or you can start your own business. do you support yourself?
BamaFanNKy
04-09-2010, 02:10 PM
What state are you in?
Danke
04-09-2010, 02:10 PM
"Is the job market really that tight out there, or is there something wrong with me?"
Yes.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:10 PM
I'll find you any job you want for a % of your pay. I'm really good at job hunting :)
How about doing it out of compassion you greedy bastard?
But seriously, if you got tips PM me or something. I just need work. Got a degree in biochemistry and experience working in Human Resources.
BamaFanNKy
04-09-2010, 02:11 PM
lol. or you can start your own business. do you support yourself?
I did that 7 years ago. Best idea ever (and worst).
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:11 PM
What state are you in?
Chicago mang.
runningdiz
04-09-2010, 02:12 PM
Fuck me.
Bout to apply at fast food joint. Gotta flip them burgers mang.
Make sure you have somebody looking over your resume for spelling and grammar problems...
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:13 PM
lol. or you can start your own business. do you support yourself?
I had to move back in with the parents. So I don't support myself right now. Got no money. But I support deez nuts, son.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:13 PM
How about doing it out of compassion you greedy bastard?
But seriously, if you got tips PM me or something. I just need work. Got a degree in biochemistry and experience working in Human Resources.
lol. I would if you were my friend. would you for me? probably not. that's why I said that :)
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:14 PM
Make sure you have somebody looking over your resume for spelling and grammar problems...
I just did that today and found an error. Spelled performed, perforumed.
fisharmor
04-09-2010, 02:14 PM
How about doing it out of compassion you greedy bastard?
But seriously, if you got tips PM me or something. I just need work. Got a degree in biochemistry and experience working in Human Resources.
Where do you live?
Up in Alexandria, Virginia, they're building one of the most recent temples to the state, and it's the Washington Headquarters Services building. Its sole purpose in life is going to be to house bureaucrats who handle the HR needs for Washington.
There is certainly no shortage of work in the DC area, provided you're white and don't have a problem being part of the problem.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:15 PM
lol. I would if you were my friend. would you for me? probably not. that's why I said that :)
Are you kidding me? I would help you out, man. I'm a decent person with respect for my fellow struggling man.
Icymudpuppy
04-09-2010, 02:15 PM
Ask yourself this...
What do you really want to do with your life...
Find out if anyone is hiring for that job.
If not, carve your niche.
If so, don't just apply. Be AGRESSIVE! Don't just ask them to hire you. Make them hire you.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:15 PM
Are you kidding me? I would help you out, man. I'm a decent person with respect for my fellow struggling man.
ok. most people don't care. what kind of business were you running?
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:16 PM
There is certainly no shortage of work in the DC area, provided you're white and don't have a problem being part of the problem.
If I could get hooked up with a bogus gov job right now, I'd do it. It's that bad man. Need money.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:17 PM
Ask yourself this...
What do you really want to do with your life...
Find out if anyone is hiring for that job.
If not, carve your niche.
If so, don't just apply. Be AGRESSIVE! Don't just ask them to hire you. Make them hire you.
Get paid for doing nothing.
Find out if anyone is hiring for that job.
doubtful
If not, carve your niche.
get paid while playing video games
I'll be a pro-gamer!! cha-ching :D
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:17 PM
If so, don't just apply. Be AGRESSIVE! Don't just ask them to hire you. Make them hire you.
Easier said than done.
Old Ducker
04-09-2010, 02:17 PM
I talked to my old boss the other day to refer a small project to him. He owns an engineering consulting firm that is dedicated to the food industry. He's laid off all his designers/drafters (where most of their revenue is derived) and neither he nor any of the partners...which are almost all the engineers...are drawing salaries. Companies are still spending money on maintenance and new equipment, but not expanding or building new plants.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:18 PM
I talked to my old boss the other day to refer a small project to him. He owns an engineering consulting firm that is dedicated to the food industry. He's laid off all his drafters (where most of their revenue is derived) and neither he nor any of the partners...which are almost all the engineers...aren't drawing salaries. Companies are still spending money on maintenance and new equipment, but not expanding or building new plants.
weren't we supposed to start a business together, OD?
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:26 PM
CHICAGO PEOPLE!
If you read this and got some connects, hook a brother up. I'll take any job that doesn't require manual labor (got girly fingers), an advanced degree, or other various bullshit. I'm suited to a laboratory, research, or office type deal.
If you can successfully find me a job, I'll suck your di............maybe not, but I'll find someway to compensate you or even be your friend.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:27 PM
CHICAGO PEOPLE!
If you read this and got some connects, hook a brother up. I'll take any job that doesn't require manual labor (got girly fingers), an advanced degree, or other various bullshit. I'm suited to a laboratory, research, or office type deal.
If you can successfully find me a job, I'll suck your di............maybe not, but I'll find someway to compensate you or even be your friend.
can you grow legal grass for me over there and sell it? then send me $$$. I will send you seeds for this project. I'll find you contacts as well
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:28 PM
Oh and I realize that I posted in the wrong forum.
Josh, you wanna move this? Thanks sweetheart.
Old Ducker
04-09-2010, 02:29 PM
weren't we supposed to start a business together, OD?
LOL, good one. Elya Katz will be on my board of directors before you'd even be allowed to sweep the floor.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:29 PM
can you grow weed for me over there and sell it? then send me $$$. I will send you seeds for this project. I'll find you contacts as well
brb reporting you to the fbi
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:32 PM
brb reporting you to the fbi
statist
t0rnado
04-09-2010, 02:32 PM
I heard there are a ton of job openings for miners in West Virginia.
/I know, I know.. too early.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:33 PM
I heard there are a ton of job openings for miners in West Virginia.
/I know, I know.. too early.
touche'
Danke
04-09-2010, 02:33 PM
CHICAGO PEOPLE!
If you read this and got some connects, hook a brother up. I'll take any job that doesn't require manual labor (got girly fingers), an advanced degree, or other various bullshit. I'm suited to a laboratory, research, or office type deal.
If you can successfully find me a job, I'll suck your di............maybe not, but I'll find someway to compensate you or even be your friend.
No manual labor? I was going to recommend a way for you to make some money off of the summer tourist in downtown Chicago:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IkIdEs79X-E/RsIXyWu3sAI/AAAAAAAAAik/Tdj3yjXPTt0/s320/rickshaw.jpg
ruthie
04-09-2010, 02:35 PM
? What's a job?
t0rnado
04-09-2010, 02:36 PM
? What's a job?
Si, I have yob?
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:37 PM
No manual labor? I was going to recommend a way for you to make some money off of the summer tourist in downtown Chicago:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IkIdEs79X-E/RsIXyWu3sAI/AAAAAAAAAik/Tdj3yjXPTt0/s320/rickshaw.jpg
You racist bastard.
Vessol
04-09-2010, 02:37 PM
Jobs are somewhat easier to find if you don't mind working in the minimum wage service sector :\. The joys of being a college student.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:38 PM
Jobs are somewhat easier to find if you don't mind working in the minimum wage service sector :\. The joys of being a college student.
NO! And no means no.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:39 PM
Jobs are somewhat easier to find if you don't mind working in the minimum wage service sector :\. The joys of being a college student.
yep. run your own business (what I do) then I casually apply to every job I can find, do a shitty job, collect unemployment - rinse and repeat
tangent4ronpaul
04-09-2010, 02:40 PM
Dammit, job search still turning up nothing. I've been looking for months now and only landed about 4-5 interviews. I hate not working and not making money. THIS SUCKS BALLS!!!!!
Where da jobs at?
Real unemployment is around 20% and there are people out there that have been sending our resume's for 20 months and not landed a single interview. If you've landed 4-5 interviews in a much shorter time consider yourself lucky.
Fed gvmt seems to be the only part of the economy that is growing.
Consider relocating for the right job.
drop words like "man" and "brother" from your vocabulary.
I would suggest researching the bio-tech field, visiting the various companies web sites for openings, and then write a custom resume for each opening that is tailored to what they do. Use active, not passive writing so you sound like a doer, and get letters of recommendation. I know one place is opening a cold packaging plant for vaccine production, as an example, but it's on the east coast.
You might also try a uni for a lab tech / assistant job.
Good luck!
-t
Google: bio-chemistry jobs entry level
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS289&=&q=biochemistry+jobs+entry+level&aq=8sx&aqi=g-s1g-sx9&aql=&oq=bio-chemistry+jobs&gs_rfai=
Yeah, you are deff in the wrong part of the country:
http://biochemistry-jobs.jobcircle.com/jobs/biochemistry-jobs.html
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t0rnado
04-09-2010, 02:41 PM
NO! And no means no.
Do you really feel that you're entitled to a better job than that simply because you took a bunch of classes for 4 years?
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:41 PM
Real unemployment is around 20% and there are people out there that have been sending our resume's for 20 months and not landed a single interview. If you've landed 2-3 interviews in a much shorter time consider yourself lucky.
Fed gvmt seems to be the only part of the economy that is growing.
Consider relocating for the right job.
drop words like "man" and "brother" from your vocabulary.
I would suggest researching the bio-tech field, visiting the various companies web sites for openings, and then write a custom resume for each opening that is tailored to what they do. Use active, not passive writing so you sound like a doer, and get letters of recommendation. I know one place is opening a cold packaging plant for vaccine production, as an example, but it's on the east coast.
You might also try a uni for a lab tech / assistant job.
Good luck!
-t
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS289&=&q=biochemistry+jobs+entry+level&aq=8sx&aqi=g-s1g-sx9&aql=&oq=bio-chemistry+jobs&gs_rfai=
Yeah, you are deff in the wrong part of the country:
http://biochemistry-jobs.jobcircle.com/jobs/biochemistry-jobs.html
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hehe. I live in NJ :)
Libertini
04-09-2010, 02:46 PM
Do you really feel that you're entitled to a better job than that simply because you took a bunch of classes for 4 years?
No, but my job experience should lead me to better job than that. C'mon now, do you work minimum wage? That's what I thought.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:47 PM
No, but my job experience should lead me to better job than that. C'mon now, do you work minimum wage? That's what I thought.
You have zero job experience.
MelissaWV
04-09-2010, 02:48 PM
Do you really feel that you're entitled to a better job than that simply because you took a bunch of classes for 4 years?
Probably. This is part of the problem with folks right now, and the advice given in this thread will fall on deaf ears.
I just did that today and found an error. Spelled performed, perforumed.
I offered to look over any documentation you were going to submit for a job, including a resume or cover letter. I never got anything to look over. It seems you pop up with these posts from time to time, but those that offer you advice and help are resources that are seldom tapped. In other words, it's almost like you don't really take it too seriously.
Someone asked you what state you live in, and you responded:
Chicago mang.
This might also be part of the problem :p
For my part, I am turning down work because I don't have time to do it all. I have had to narrow my focus and decline book-related projects because of the resources such undertakings demand. I don't have a degree, either. I'm not rich, but I am also not hurting for money, which is quite a feat considering I'm also having to rebuy all the things most of you take for granted, having lost 99% of my possessions in 2008.
Find what you are good at, find what you want to do, find a way to marry the two, and sell your skills aggressively and creatively to get your foot in the door.
If you really are about ready to go flip burgers, "mang," then you shouldn't turn your nose up at friendly advice, nor should you scoff at the notion of minimum wage sector jobs. Once again, it just seems like you're not really that serious about this. The job market is loosening up, because a large number of people are just giving up, or deciding to go the welfare route. In some sectors, the job market was never tight at all.
I have yet to see one "Classifieds" section of a newspaper run completely empty. I have yet to drive around town and not see a plethora of "Help Wanted" signs. I have yet to do an online search for jobs in a city and come up with 0 results.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 02:52 PM
If you truly want money and you have no morals. Buy fake jewelry, walk around where pedestrians are and try to pass them off as real. That's just one way to net you a pretty penny. I'm not doing this myself, just an example... you live in chi-town, people are effin retards there :)
pcosmar
04-09-2010, 02:54 PM
^^
Uff Da, ,,MelissaWV
Is the job market really that tight out there,
is this a rhetorical question?
:(
http://pcosmar.blogspot.com/2009/08/employment-woes.html
TheBlackPeterSchiff
04-09-2010, 03:10 PM
Come to Louisiana. Employment is tight here to but not as bad as the rest of the country. Baton Rouge and the New Orleans Metro area have the lowest unemployment in the country right now.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 03:13 PM
Probably. This is part of the problem with folks right now, and the advice given in this thread will fall on deaf ears.
I offered to look over any documentation you were going to submit for a job, including a resume or cover letter. I never got anything to look over. It seems you pop up with these posts from time to time, but those that offer you advice and help are resources that are seldom tapped. In other words, it's almost like you don't really take it too seriously.
Someone asked you what state you live in, and you responded:
This might also be part of the problem :p
For my part, I am turning down work because I don't have time to do it all. I have had to narrow my focus and decline book-related projects because of the resources such undertakings demand. I don't have a degree, either. I'm not rich, but I am also not hurting for money, which is quite a feat considering I'm also having to rebuy all the things most of you take for granted, having lost 99% of my possessions in 2008.
Find what you are good at, find what you want to do, find a way to marry the two, and sell your skills aggressively and creatively to get your foot in the door.
If you really are about ready to go flip burgers, "mang," then you shouldn't turn your nose up at friendly advice, nor should you scoff at the notion of minimum wage sector jobs. Once again, it just seems like you're not really that serious about this. The job market is loosening up, because a large number of people are just giving up, or deciding to go the welfare route. In some sectors, the job market was never tight at all.
I have yet to see one "Classifieds" section of a newspaper run completely empty. I have yet to drive around town and not see a plethora of "Help Wanted" signs. I have yet to do an online search for jobs in a city and come up with 0 results.
I pmed you my cover letter.
tangent4ronpaul
04-09-2010, 03:16 PM
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm
Scroll down for charts of state by state unemployment rates.
-t
LibertyIn08
04-09-2010, 03:27 PM
UChicago is hiring.
https://jobopportunities.uchicago.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=510565
https://jobopportunities.uchicago.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=510622
https://jobopportunities.uchicago.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=510462
https://jobopportunities.uchicago.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=509892
I have more where those came from, looked for some where your qualifications would work.
TheBlackPeterSchiff
04-09-2010, 03:28 PM
the IRS is hiring :)
devil21
04-09-2010, 03:28 PM
Even the jobs that are being landed are at about 66% of the pay level for the same position 2 years ago. My dad just landed a job after being out-of-work since early winter. It's the same sort of position as he had before, just a different company. His hourly rate went from $19 down to $12. It's a buyers market.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 03:36 PM
Even the jobs that are being landed are at about 66% of the pay level for the same position 2 years ago. My dad just landed a job after being out-of-work since early winter. It's the same sort of position as he had before, just a different company. His hourly rate went from $19 down to $12. It's a buyers market.
I know right? What the fuck MAN!
Even lab technician positions that I'm qualified for are offering something like 13-14/hr. The fuck?
Working Poor
04-09-2010, 03:36 PM
the IRS is hiring :)
Are you a good shot?:p
Libertini
04-09-2010, 03:36 PM
UChicago is hiring.
https://jobopportunities.uchicago.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=510565
https://jobopportunities.uchicago.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=510622
https://jobopportunities.uchicago.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=510462
https://jobopportunities.uchicago.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=509892
I have more where those came from, looked for some where your qualifications would work.
I search the U of C website regularly. Thanks though.
moostraks
04-09-2010, 03:38 PM
Even the jobs that are being landed are at about 66% of the pay level for the same position 2 years ago. My dad just landed a job after being out-of-work since early winter. It's the same sort of position as he had before, just a different company. His hourly rate went from $19 down to $12. It's a buyers market.
Dh could not find employment in his field. He has almost 20 years in as a printer and now works as a loader for an auto shipping company. Luckily they got recalled before he was off for an entire year (by mere weeks) at which point he would be officially terminated. He has finally completed his time for permanent employment and got benefits about 2 weeks back...woohoo! But the pay is still meager compared to his field of expertise.:(
lynnf
04-09-2010, 03:39 PM
jobs sent overseas + visa holders take jobs here + illegal aliens take more jobs =
NO JOBS FOR YOU!
this has been going on for more than 20 years
-----------
lynn
jsu718
04-09-2010, 03:43 PM
Meh, unemployment isn't that much of an issue. It is 20% and not 5% because there are a lot of people that won't work farms or manual labor. I guarantee that if you go around to people that live near you and offer to mow their lawn for $10 or do some roofing work at minimum wage rates you will always be employed.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 03:46 PM
I just set up an appointment with a career counselor at my university. Hopefully she points me in the right direction. I'm writing down a ton a questions that I want to ask.
no job = depression:(
Shit makes me wanna drink. Oh wait, just did that yesterday. Barely remembered it.
Of course, I suck it up when I go to the interviews and act like Mr. Enthusiastic.
amy31416
04-09-2010, 03:47 PM
I know right? What the fuck MAN!
Even lab technician positions that I'm qualified for are offering something like 13-14/hr. The fuck?
Don't understand the concept of working your way up, I guess. I started out as an environmental tech for around that much and I graduated with all kinds of distinction and research experience.
I'd be willing to bet that you'll be such a snot with a chip on your shoulder that once you get such a job, you'll eventually lose it. If I were the employer, and had an employee in this economy feeling he deserved a lot more simply because of a piece of paper, I'd tell him to take a hike.
You have to prove yourself even with a degree, sport.
TheBlackPeterSchiff
04-09-2010, 03:50 PM
Yeah man ,sometimes you just got to say fuck the pay and just do it.
Erazmus
04-09-2010, 03:53 PM
If you believe the government numbers, everything is great. If you look at the real numbers, things aren't only bad, they're going to get much worse. I tend to not believe government, about anything.
Scofield
04-09-2010, 03:59 PM
Ask yourself this...
What do you really want to do with your life...
Find out if anyone is hiring for that job.
This is why I am beginning to worry about my future.
I don't want to define myself by my job. I don't want my answer for "What do you really want to do with your life" to come down to my employment status.
Everyone else I know, however, classifies themselves based on what type of job they have or what they would like to do (career-wise). It's depressing.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 04:02 PM
Don't understand the concept of working your way up, I guess. I started out as an environmental tech for around that much and I graduated with all kinds of distinction and research experience.
I'd be willing to bet that you'll be such a snot with a chip on your shoulder that once you get such a job, you'll eventually lose it. If I were the employer, and had an employee in this economy feeling he deserved a lot more simply because of a piece of paper, I'd tell him to take a hike.
You have to prove yourself even with a degree, sport.
What makes you think I won't work for it?
I started out as an admin asst at a community center and did a good enough job that the organization hired me to be in HR in their central office, with no HR experience. Then I worked at the same place for 3 years didn't complain about shit, then got laid off. I made significantly more money than 13.00/hr doing shit a monkey could do.
I just made the observation that 13.00/hr seemed low, didn't make any indication that I wasn't willing to do work, and you simply started hating.
amy31416
04-09-2010, 04:04 PM
What makes you think I won't work for it?
I started out as an admin asst at a community center and did a good enough job that the organization hired me to be in HR in their central office, with no HR experience. Then I worked at the same place for 3 years didn't complain about shit, then got laid off. I made significantly more money than 13.00/hr doing shit a monkey could do.
I just made the observation that 13.00/hr seemed low, didn't make any indication that I wasn't willing to do work, and you simply started hating.
Because the post I quoted was chock full of "WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!"
MelissaWV
04-09-2010, 04:15 PM
This is why I am beginning to worry about my future.
I don't want to define myself by my job. I don't want my answer for "What do you really want to do with your life" to come down to my employment status.
Everyone else I know, however, classifies themselves based on what type of job they have or what they would like to do (career-wise). It's depressing.
Your job does not have to define you, but you will likely spend a great deal of time at your career. What's more, the enjoying of the time you are NOT spending at your job will depend greatly upon your satisfaction with your job (will you be grouchy because of a horrible, mundane job that depresses you?) and how much money you make (can you make a living, or are you desperately worried that every phonecall is a collector, and that you'll be evicted at any moment?).
If you really want to retire early on a lovely tropical island, you will have to work towards that goal one way or another. This is why people ask "What do you really want to do with your life?" when it comes to career advice. Your career can be better than your ambitions, but certainly not beneath them.
You don't have to make it seem so gloomy ;) What people are telling you is to really figure out which of your dreams can become a reality, and what's the best way to make them happen while you're still able to enjoy them.
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04-09-2010, 04:53 PM
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BamaFanNKy
04-09-2010, 04:58 PM
get paid while playing video games
I'll be a pro-gamer!! cha-ching :D
This is no shit, my cousin's husband does this for Sony. He makes 85k a year.
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Libertini
04-09-2010, 05:45 PM
Hmmmm.............
I just received an email from an employer to a place I applied to. He asked me if I wanted to work the night shift. Maybe somebody wants to hire me.
Hopefully I won't fuck up the interview if we meet.
NYgs23
04-09-2010, 06:06 PM
I am in the same boat. Searching going on five months. Number of interviews: zero.
Fortunately, I already have a part-time job. Unfortunately, it's the most torturous job on the planet (substitute teacher).
Libertini
04-09-2010, 06:14 PM
I am in the same boat. Searching going on five months. Number of interviews: zero.
Fortunately, I already have a part-time job. Unfortunately, it's the most torturous job on the planet (substitute teacher).
Damn, homey. I feel you though.
The last interview I did 2 days ago, the employer told me that he received 173 applications to the job. God Damn! The market is so saturated right now, it's not cool. The unemployment can not be at only 10%. It's gotta be at least 15%.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 06:48 PM
Hmmmm.............
I just received an email from an employer to a place I applied to. He asked me if I wanted to work the night shift. Maybe somebody wants to hire me.
Hopefully I won't fuck up the interview if we meet.
I'm pretty sure you will, homey
Libertini
04-09-2010, 07:25 PM
I'm pretty sure you will, homey
I'm too slick for that, son.
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 07:25 PM
Do any of you kids have real jobs anymore?
FFS...
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 07:28 PM
Oh, and every Libertini thread I see, will get a "Foul Bachelor Frog" post:
http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/26686/original/Foul-Bachelor-Frog-FAP-AT-WORK-GET-PAID.jpg
Libertini
04-09-2010, 07:32 PM
Do any of you kids have real jobs anymore?
FFS...
Define real job.
I'm trying to get papes any way I can, brah. Except stealing, drug dealing, and begging.
Libertini
04-09-2010, 07:32 PM
Oh, and every Libertini thread I see, will get a "Foul Bachelor Frog" post:
http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/26686/original/Foul-Bachelor-Frog-FAP-AT-WORK-GET-PAID.jpg
I've never fapped at work, but I've fapped in a car while driving.
Danke
04-09-2010, 07:35 PM
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/facebookstalker/images/8/8c/Fortunecookie.jpg
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 07:42 PM
Define real job.
I'm trying to get papes any way I can, brah. Except stealing, drug dealing, and begging.
Hard work.
I could send you to sea...
Brian4Liberty
04-09-2010, 07:48 PM
Shit makes me wanna drink. Oh wait, just did that yesterday. Barely remembered it.
Fell off the wagon eh? How many days did you make it?
manny229
04-09-2010, 07:49 PM
Hard work.
I could send you to sea...
Are there any job opportunities at sea?
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 07:50 PM
Are there any job opportunities at sea?
The ocean scares me. Heights scares me. Everything else is fair game :)
Libertini
04-09-2010, 07:51 PM
Fell off the wagon eh? How many days did you make it?
Made it 60 days, relapsed, 3 days, relapsed again, and here I am.
angelatc
04-09-2010, 07:51 PM
I talked to my old boss the other day to refer a small project to him. He owns an engineering consulting firm that is dedicated to the food industry. He's laid off all his designers/drafters (where most of their revenue is derived) and neither he nor any of the partners...which are almost all the engineers...are drawing salaries. Companies are still spending money on maintenance and new equipment, but not expanding or building new plants.
I wish I was an investigative reporter, because my neighbor (who either works for GM or works for a GM supplier) told me they're actually working without pay these days.
Of course it's illegal, but...
They're laid off, but told that the project really needs to get done, so if they don't want to be in the next round of permanent layoffs, they better show up.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 07:52 PM
Made it 60 days, relapsed, 3 days, relapsed again, and here I am.
how old are you?
Libertini
04-09-2010, 07:54 PM
how old are you?
25
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 07:56 PM
Are there any job opportunities at sea?
Some.
Things are slowly picking up.
http://www.maritimeemployment.com/
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 08:01 PM
I know right? What the fuck MAN!
Even lab technician positions that I'm qualified for are offering something like 13-14/hr. The fuck?
UPS To Hire 25,000 Drivers
Great news for those who are in need of a job: UPS is looking to hire 25,000 drivers over the next five years.
The position pays an average of $74,000 a year.
UPS has changed its training from books and tests to videogames. Candidates vying for a job will be trained on a simulator and obstacle course.
(See, you don't even have to read, just play a fucking video game - AF)
About 30 percent of driver candidates failed the traditional training.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/money/ups-to-hire-25,000-drivers
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 08:03 PM
The ocean scares me. Heights scares me. Everything else is fair game :)
Scared?
Scared??
Scared???
Scared????
http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/son_i_am_disappoint.gif
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 08:06 PM
YouTube - Predator - Slack Jawed ******s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plY9hpA_Nbg)
manny229
04-09-2010, 08:10 PM
Some.
Things are slowly picking up.
http://www.maritimeemployment.com/
Thanks for the link...... looking into it.
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 08:12 PM
Thanks for the link...... looking into it.
If you're really interested, PM me, I'll see if I can help out.
Danke
04-09-2010, 08:15 PM
25
By the Gregorian or Chinese calendar?
Danke
04-09-2010, 08:17 PM
Thanks for the link...... looking into it.
I tried to apply, but the grammar test is a killer.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 08:21 PM
If you're really interested, PM me, I'll see if I can help out.
Does one need experience?
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 08:22 PM
Thanks for the link...... looking into it.
Here is another just as start.
http://findmaritimejobs.com/index.html
Lots of information on what the work actually entails.
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 08:24 PM
Does one need experience?
No, there are "entry level" rates.
OS = Ordinary Seaman, deck job.
WP = Wiper, engine room job.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 08:26 PM
No, there are "entry level" rates.
OS = Ordinary Seaman, deck job.
WP = Wiper, engine room job.
cool. so a dude can just show up and get hired? wow nice. I live in new jersey, do they have openings near me?
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 08:34 PM
cool. so a dude can just show up and get hired? wow nice. I live in new jersey, do they have openings near me?
There's more to it than that, but, get hired on by, say a tug company, and you'll be getting paid as you go through a couple weeks of mandatory safety classes, training, getting merchant mariner's documents and so on.
http://www.tugboatjobs.net/eastcoastcompanies.html
dwdollar
04-09-2010, 08:43 PM
Those people who tell you that you to be "more aggressive" have their head up their a****. Those kind of people are usually +40 years old and sitting comfortable in something they landed a long time ago. They never had to be as "aggressive" as they advice others.
Let me break down some numbers for you mentally challenged aging hippies or lazy hippie haters who never did anything about them. AKA, the baby-boomer Communist retard generation...
My wife applied for a teller position that starts out at $10.73 an hour. She was VERY lucky to get this job. The credit union only hires about 40 people a year for this position. Anyone want to take a guess how many people applied for it last year??? Five thousand. Yes that's right, 5000 people applied for it last year. And 2000 have already applied for it this year. So that's 40/5000 = .008 or .8%. Point eight percent of the people who applied for this job actually got it. Oh, and my wife has a 4 year degree in Business Administration.
Did you play those odds in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's?
LibertyWorker
04-09-2010, 08:46 PM
The great American job shift - Both people and companies need to be more flexible. I work in IT and most companies that use some sort of IT infrastructure are shifting their money away from installation of new equipment and putting those resources towards upgrading and maintaining existing equipment.The people who are flexible and have real skills and recognize where these companies are shifting their money will do OK.
There will be money in fixing in repairing the things that people need. Not selling them new stuff.
For all you paper shufflers out there "Good Luck".You better find some real skills pronto.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 08:46 PM
Those people who tell you that you to be "more aggressive" have their head up their a****. Those kind of people are usually +40 years old and sitting comfortable in something they landed a long time ago. They never had to be as "aggressive" as they advice others.
Let me break down some numbers for you mentally challenged aging hippies or lazy hippie haters who never did anything about them. AKA, the baby-boomer Communist retard generation...
My wife applied for a teller position that starts out at $10.73 an hour. She was VERY lucky to get this job. The credit union only hires about 40 people a year for this position. Anyone want to take a guess how many people applied for it last year??? Five thousand. Yes that's right, 5000 people applied for it last year. And 2000 have already applied for it this year. So that's 40/5000 = .008 or 8%. Eight percent of the people who applied for this job actually got it. Oh, and my wife has a 4 year degree in Business Administration.
Did you play those odds?
So, instead of actually giving advice, you trash those that do, then you go on to brag about your wife's job? yeah, that was extremely helpful. thanks
dwdollar
04-09-2010, 08:48 PM
So, instead of actually giving advice, you trash those that do, then you go on to brag about your wife's job? yeah, that was extremely helpful. thanks
If their advice is to be more aggressive I do.
pcosmar
04-09-2010, 08:49 PM
There's more to it than that, but, get hired on by, say a tug company, and you'll be getting paid as you go through a couple weeks of mandatory safety classes, training, getting merchant mariner's documents and so on.
http://www.tugboatjobs.net/eastcoastcompanies.html
Know any spots for a hand, without all the pesky paperwork?
Paid under the table preferably.
At 10 yrs old I could drive this (http://www.limeisland.com/media/the_lime_island.avi)from dock to dock. Start up, to shutdown.
Manually engaged starter. ;)
:rolleyes:
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 09:02 PM
Know any spots for a hand, without all the pesky paperwork?
Paid under the table preferably.
At 10 yrs old I could drive this from dock to dock. Start up, to shutdown.
Manually engaged starter. ;)
:rolleyes:
Sadly, everything I'm in now requires papers.
I could turn you on to some commercial fishing prospects if you wanted to travel to the east coast.
speciallyblend
04-09-2010, 09:03 PM
job market is very tough right now. People are not hiring. I am lucky to have a job myself!!
manny229
04-09-2010, 09:04 PM
No, there are "entry level" rates.
OS = Ordinary Seaman, deck job.
WP = Wiper, engine room job.
Thats good to know I always thought you had to go through the Merchant Marine Academy at Throngs neck.
speciallyblend
04-09-2010, 09:05 PM
Sadly, everything I'm in now requires papers.
I could turn you on to some commercial fishing prospects if you wanted to travel to the east coast.
hard ass work but decent pay!! i lived in Gloucester VA for awhile and could even speak like the ginnymen?? i think that is what folks called everyone in that area. a fast dialect ,folks spoke real fast!!!
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 09:24 PM
hard ass work but decent pay!! i lived in Gloucester VA for awhile and could even speak like the ginnymen?? i think that is what folks called everyone in that area. a fast dialect ,folks spoke real fast!!!
To this day I still can't savvy Outer Banks talk.
:confused:
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 09:29 PM
Thats good to know I always thought you had to go through the Merchant Marine Academy at Throngs neck.
Maine Maritime is better I think. I've taken a couple of classes there for vessel specific things.
But keep in mind, those academies are to train for Third Officer Unlimited positions, either in engineering or deck.
Stick to it for 30 years like I have and you "come up through the hawsepipe".:D
Meaning you put enough time in, take the tests, take the required classes and get your license.
ifthenwouldi
04-09-2010, 09:29 PM
It really is a tough market out there. I've been shocked at the number of people applying for positions, even entry-level ones. I'm not even making the "initial cut" for jobs I'm more than qualified for.
My most recent job was in Student Services at a private college. When my co-worker left, I was involved in the selection of which candidates would be interviewed. There were several people with PhD's applying for an entry-level job that paid under 30K. PhD's...
charrob
04-09-2010, 09:34 PM
Some.
Things are slowly picking up.
http://www.maritimeemployment.com/
This sounds like a wonderful opportunity; i hope some here can get such a job. This past Christmas when our family got together, my cousin was telling me his youngest son had just got a job with the Merchant Marines. He said it was good because he would start as a journeyman, but there were alot of opportunities on where he could go once on the ship. In other words, if he was interested in engines, he could pursue that route... or if he was interested in plotting courses, he could pursue that route... i don't know anything about the Merchant Marines (which probably shows) but it sounds like a real good opportunity...
For the guy who is the biochem. major, i do know the corridor between D.C. and Gaithersburg, MD has alot of biochem. related employment... not sure how the job market is there, however; the man suggesting going to the websites of different companies and tailoring resumes to the particular job has good advice. Good luck.
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 09:49 PM
This sounds like a wonderful opportunity; i hope some here can get such a job. This past Christmas when our family got together, my cousin was telling me his youngest son had just got a job with the Merchant Marines. He said it was good because he would start as a journeyman, but there were alot of opportunities on where he could go once on the ship. In other words, if he was interested in engines, he could pursue that route... or if he was interested in plotting courses, he could pursue that route... i don't know anything about the Merchant Marines (which probably shows) but it sounds like a real good opportunity...
If you can get past the three "sicks", for somebody starting out, you've got it made. It's not a bad way to make a living, really.
Oh, the three sicks? Homesick, Lovesick and Seasick.
Brian4Liberty
04-09-2010, 09:52 PM
Let me break down some numbers for you mentally challenged aging hippies or lazy hippie haters who never did anything about them. AKA, the baby-boomer Communist retard generation...
Lol! :D
Just for clarity, do you hate hippies or anti-hippies? Or do you mean "hippie-haters" as in "hippies-that-hate-on-others"?
I remember visiting relatives in Washington State that always hated on hippies. ;)
Brian4Liberty
04-09-2010, 09:56 PM
Made it 60 days, relapsed, 3 days, relapsed again, and here I am.
Under the influence and posting? No one here ever does that! ;)
Keep it up though. Go back on the wagon. Another thing to try is setting a hard limit for yourself. Two drinks in a night. No more. Going for a third is weak.
speciallyblend
04-09-2010, 09:58 PM
Lol! :D
Just for clarity, do you hate hippies or anti-hippies? Or do you mean "hippie-haters" as in "hippies-that-hate-on-others"?
I remember visiting relatives in Washington State that always hated on hippies. ;)
i am a hard working hippie dammit:( wtf??? anywho the hate hippies or anti-hippies or hippie haters don't hate me ! i do take showers:)
JeNNiF00F00
04-09-2010, 10:35 PM
dont be hatin' the hippies
JosephTheLibertarian
04-09-2010, 10:38 PM
dont be hatin' the hippies
hippies are dirty, though lol I'm all about showering everyday
Anti Federalist
04-09-2010, 10:57 PM
Another FBF post for Libertini's thread:
http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/27438/small/Foul-Bachelor-Frog-TOO-MANY-BACHELOR-FROGS-ECONOMY-FAILS.jpg
Jordan
04-10-2010, 01:17 AM
If you've landed 4-5 interviews with no job you're doing something wrong.
Apparently you need to invest in yourself, either in knowledge, people skills, or just plain marketing your own abilities. I suggest working on your "spiel" once you get the interview, as a smooth talking person should always be able to seal a deal, or at the very minimum, make enough of an impression to be memorable.
Libertini
04-10-2010, 05:13 AM
GREAT NEWS!
I just got emailed an offer last night. I have to get back to them by Wed. and tell them if I'll accept or not. I have another employer that emailed me also, but we haven't interviewed yet and it may be a higher paying job. Maybe I can see if we can speed things up a little bit and see how much this other job is willing to offer before I accept the first job.
Anyone know how I should approach the employer to get him to speed things up a little? I need to know by Weds and only have Mon and Tues to figure this out. Hmmm..... Give me suggestions.
Anyways, thanks for the help guys.
job = feelsgoodman
lynnf
04-10-2010, 06:13 AM
GREAT NEWS!
I just got emailed an offer last night. I have to get back to them by Wed. and tell them if I'll accept or not. I have another employer that emailed me also, but we haven't interviewed yet and it may be a higher paying job. Maybe I can see if we can speed things up a little bit and see how much this other job is willing to offer before I accept the first job.
Anyone know how I should approach the employer to get him to speed things up a little? I need to know by Weds and only have Mon and Tues to figure this out. Hmmm..... Give me suggestions.
Anyways, thanks for the help guys.
job = feelsgoodman
that is great news, congrats!
one approach could be the direct one: tell them unvarnished truth -you have an offer already and need to get this done quickly.
the bad part: you take the risk they might just blow you off because you already have an offer and they want someone that doesn't, that they might not want the chance that you will take the other offer.
up to you...... but you really don't lose either way, you already have an offer.
lynn
t0rnado
04-10-2010, 07:11 AM
I heard they're looking for a new Polish president.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-10-2010, 07:35 AM
I heard they're looking for a new Polish president.
oh yea? They should choose me. You'll see GDP growth of ten zillian percent every year! :D
jdmyprez_deo_vindice
04-10-2010, 08:08 AM
I just went through a situation like this myself. I graduated from the top auction academy in the world and auctioneers typically make a very good living. When the economy went to crap so did my business and many of the auction houses I did some contract work for started keeping their jobs totally in house. So I got a job as a substitute teacher and did well at that until they ran out of money and the phone stopped ringing in the morning. So I found myself with a wife and three kids and barely any work. I put in everywhere.. from auction houses, fast food places, big box retail stores and I would either hear nothing back or would get a friendly call from an owner/manager saying they wished they could hire me but they had nothing to offer right now. Two weeks ago the phone rang and it was for a portable sanitation company that wanted to talk to me about running their new marketing department. I started the job Tuesday.
I guess what I am trying to tell you is that in this market you cannot be picky. If you really want to make some money and earn respect than you are going to have to lower your standards and apply to jobs outside of you qualification level. You just have to do what you have to do and sometimes when you adopt that attitude, fantastic opportunities will come your way.
Libertini
04-10-2010, 08:40 AM
that is great news, congrats!
one approach could be the direct one: tell them unvarnished truth -you have an offer already and need to get this done quickly.
the bad part: you take the risk they might just blow you off because you already have an offer and they want someone that doesn't, that they might not want the chance that you will take the other offer.
up to you...... but you really don't lose either way, you already have an offer.
lynn
Thanks.
I will keep contacting the other employer and see if we can meet before Weds. This job offers a higher salary rather than an hourly wage and better benefits (I think) than the job I got offered. It also allows for overtime on the weekends, which is cool because I need the money. So I'll see how this goes. What I don't want to do is delay the first offer because they received 173 applicants in the last couple weeks and will probably drop me if I don't accept by Wed.
MelissaWV
04-10-2010, 08:49 AM
Those people who tell you that you to be "more aggressive" have their head up their a****. Those kind of people are usually +40 years old and sitting comfortable in something they landed a long time ago. They never had to be as "aggressive" as they advice others.
Let me break down some numbers for you mentally challenged aging hippies or lazy hippie haters who never did anything about them. AKA, the baby-boomer Communist retard generation...
My wife applied for a teller position that starts out at $10.73 an hour. She was VERY lucky to get this job. The credit union only hires about 40 people a year for this position. Anyone want to take a guess how many people applied for it last year??? Five thousand. Yes that's right, 5000 people applied for it last year. And 2000 have already applied for it this year. So that's 40/5000 = .008 or .8%. Point eight percent of the people who applied for this job actually got it. Oh, and my wife has a 4 year degree in Business Administration.
Did you play those odds in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's?
I'm 29. If you're going for "application jobs," then being aggressive won't help anything. A bank teller is an "application job." Your skills, education, and just about everything are put into a form and that's it. There is really no discretion until the very last round of interviews, so getting the job is really more a matter of not being entirely offensive and unqualified, and being lucky as you pointed out. Of course, that's why 5000 people applied for the job. You will find the same situation at any other "application job" right now, because people who are desperate are flooding those positions.
Aggression is great, though, when you are applying for a niche position, or something where HR is going to make a decision made largely on who makes the best impression. I don't mean to leap over the counter and growl and grab the interviewer by the collar, demanding the job. Something as simple as sending a follow-up "thank you" email or letter after the interview, or sending a resume by email and then sending another via mail (with a different cover letter acknowledging you already sent one via email). Be polished, research the company, and don't just walk in as another generic candidate for some position you saw online that might fix your desperate situation. If you seem defeated, you're less likely to get the job.
Incidentally, I have never been at a "job" more than a couple of years. I enjoy the freedom of doing freelance work, and setting my own hours, but I also enjoyed short assignments that diversified my work experience. There was a time when I had to take whatever a temp agency suggested for me, and I did so, because there were bills to pay. What doing all of this showed me is that most workplaces are full of miserable people, but if you're only somewhere a short time, you don't get as bogged down.
So, to recap, your "advice" is to just go with the flow, blast as many applications out there, and be "lucky" enough to land an $11/hour job as a bank teller? That seems way more productive than the advice others are giving, right? :rolleyes:
MelissaWV
04-10-2010, 08:53 AM
GREAT NEWS!
I just got emailed an offer last night. I have to get back to them by Wed. and tell them if I'll accept or not. I have another employer that emailed me also, but we haven't interviewed yet and it may be a higher paying job. Maybe I can see if we can speed things up a little bit and see how much this other job is willing to offer before I accept the first job.
Anyone know how I should approach the employer to get him to speed things up a little? I need to know by Weds and only have Mon and Tues to figure this out. Hmmm..... Give me suggestions.
Anyways, thanks for the help guys.
job = feelsgoodman
This is obviously good karma from letting me review your cover letter :D
As others already advised, you should speak to that second employer and see if they would be willing to move your interview up. The odds are, however, that even if you interviewed Monday the second job would not make you a formal offer in time for you to consider it up against the first one. If it were me, I'd still go and be honest. At worst, you'll still end up taking the first job, but have made valuable contacts at the second company, and have a positive interview in your pocket with them. It's another bridge built.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-10-2010, 09:28 AM
I know it's too late now, but you could have made money by simply printing up some fliers "WILL DO YOUR INCOME TAX FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR! DON'T MISS A TAX CREDIT WITH US!" then you simply do it yourself or go to turbotax and let them do it. You charge them like $20. Still a lot cheaper than H&R Block :)
just an idea I put together. be bold, be creative
1. make a sign. "will work for money" "need money for food" go and hussle
2. create a site. read guides on seo, monetize it, make money, flip it
3. buy some prime dividend stock, but you don't have a lump laying around, right?
4. go on craigslist and email everyone. beg. "please do you have even the smallest job??? :(" beg for an apprenticeship, beg because you just have no food in your house *sad*
go out and make some effin money
Libertini
04-10-2010, 09:37 AM
1. make a sign. "will work for money" "need money for food" go and hussle
go out and make some effin money
GTFOH, that is neither bold nor creative.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-10-2010, 09:38 AM
GTFOH, that is neither bold nor creative.
you can't say that's not bold ha.
do you have a scrap yard around town? go out and collect metals. use a magnet to differentiate. cha-ching. got a van? go to gas stations, they have tons of crap they don't need. bring it to the scrap yard. cha-ching.
I did this one find morning [when I was like 14] ten minutes of scrounging netted me $160. But the scrap yard is no more lol
Libertini
04-10-2010, 09:42 AM
This is obviously good karma from letting me review your cover letter :D
As others already advised, you should speak to that second employer and see if they would be willing to move your interview up. The odds are, however, that even if you interviewed Monday the second job would not make you a formal offer in time for you to consider it up against the first one. If it were me, I'd still go and be honest. At worst, you'll still end up taking the first job, but have made valuable contacts at the second company, and have a positive interview in your pocket with them. It's another bridge built.
It may have been good karma from letting you read my cover letter, though I sent them an entirely different one. Or it could have been my notorious impatience. I hate waiting and get antsy when shit don't happen quick.
I just send dude an email telling him my situation and the reasons why I'm really interested in a position at this other company. The reasons are real too:
Closer to my house
Less traffic on this particular route.
Offers chance for overtime on the weekends, I would be looking for part time work on the weekends anyways to supplement a full time job.
I'm a weird guy, and I need to work at night to avoid being seen by normal motherfuckers.
I know that my chances are slim that he'll make an offer before Weds, but damn, I need to give this my best shot.
Danke
04-10-2010, 09:45 AM
It may have been good karma from letting you read my cover letter, though I sent them an entirely different one. Or it could have been my notorious impatience. I hate waiting and get antsy when shit don't happen quick.
No, it was the cookie:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2637044&postcount=79
Carole
04-10-2010, 09:53 AM
The bluer the state, the more socialism it promotes and probably as time goes on, the worst places to job hunt since the goal is more and more socialism. Thes states now have the greatest unemployment, the most crime, the worst conditions for improving one's life.
I am no expert, but I do suggest you relocate to one of the more conservative cities in the most conservative state you can find. The chance of stability and job security might be better in such a place simply because that state might have a more common sense approach to money, spending, budgets, etc.
IMHO one cannot approach job hunting in a vacuum, but must consider it from many angles due to the economic and political climate in our country.
Good luck. :)
JosephTheLibertarian
04-10-2010, 09:56 AM
Hey, Libertine; you put yourself in a box. you are too conventional in your thinking. What happens when the economy collapses, will you still be looking in the classifieds?
Carole
04-10-2010, 10:02 AM
Libertini,
I just remembered something. My town is not very red, but in my city, the mayor is trying to find an engineer to supervise the waste management department.
Not many have interviewed because of the salary-around $60-70K. No one has accepted the job yet after six months of searching. We are actually in violation of the charter since the jobe should have been filled within three months.
Here is the place to take a look:
h ttp://www.huntingtonsb.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=81
Bucjason
04-10-2010, 10:20 AM
The job market is awesome right now !!
You could walk outside , and if you aren't careful , you might get hit by one of the millions of Stimulis jobs falling from the sky. I know, because Obama tells me every day.
Baptist
04-10-2010, 11:56 AM
Dammit, job search still turning up nothing. I've been looking for months now and only landed about 4-5 interviews. I hate not working and not making money. THIS SUCKS BALLS!!!!!
Where da jobs at?
I am related to a master plumber who has been trying to find a better job for over two years now with no luck. Normally he has plenty of work and at one point was making six figures.
I am also related to somebody who just got canned from the job he worked at for fifteen years. He started out as a janitor but eventually ended up in the graphic design department because the CEO/owner loved him and through layoffs all these years he was often promoted to new positions because the CEO wanted to keep him as an employee. Well, being a favorite isn't enough to keep you in this economy.
Texan4Life
04-10-2010, 12:36 PM
I have been out of work for 6 months.
..at least I have a job lined up though starting in may. Not a cozy daytime local trucking job like I was hoping for... More like working 7 days a week, 14hrs a day for 7 months straight away form home.
work is work at this point. I need some $$$
Libertini
04-10-2010, 12:43 PM
I have been out of work for 6 months.
..at least I have a job lined up though starting in may. Not a cozy daytime local trucking job like I was hoping for... More like working 7 days a week, 14hrs a day for 7 months straight away form home.
work is work at this point. I need some $$$
Is it trucking cross state lines?
Libertini
04-11-2010, 07:59 AM
Great News!!!
I just got an interview with the other employer. He wants to meet tomorrow. If he could make me an offer tomorrow that would be perfect.
Finally, God stopped shitting on me.
JosephTheLibertarian
04-11-2010, 08:00 AM
Great News!!!
I just got an interview with the other employer. He wants to meet tomorrow. If he could make me an offer tomorrow that would be perfect.
Finally, God stopped shitting on me.
There is no god.
amy31416
04-12-2010, 07:14 AM
From what I've seen recently, I don't know if it makes a difference anymore.
Depends on the line of work.
That degree you spent $40k on might only serve to get you in the door in fields like engineering and science. It also allows companies to set themselves up to lay off older engineers/scientists who are getting ready to retire (and make a lot more money) and boost their "college-degreed" ratio to impress their investors.
The short-sightedness of some of these companies is rather ridiculous, many of the people they get rid of are "old-school" guys who are so specialized in their knowledge that you just can't predict what they'll know.
For instance, I was doing studies on a very viscous agar and had no idea what the actual viscosity was, this ancient guy who would come in once a week after he retired. He happened to have the measurements that they'd done in the 70's. I would have had to purchase $5k worth of equipment and run a $10k study. I swear, this guy knew the numbers for this stuff and so many other things off the top of his head.
He'd come and have lunch with me every Wednesday and talk about all the projects I was working on, and could fill in the gaps of data that I did not have, thus helping direct the research and make it more efficient.
He did this for *free* because he was one of a dying breed: A company loyalist, and a brilliant guy to boot, who couldn't tolerate total retirement. I was one of the few who didn't just see him as that weird guy in the basement office.
They could have included him in things, they could have given him some "perks," but they just don't value people like that anymore.
And no, he didn't have a degree.
(Pre-emptive: Shaddap Danke!)
Danke
04-12-2010, 01:03 PM
(Pre-emptive: Shaddap Danke!)
http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/wut-loldog-cute-puppy.jpg
amy31416
04-12-2010, 01:13 PM
http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/wut-loldog-cute-puppy.jpg
Go on, play coy! I got yer number...
tangent4ronpaul
04-23-2010, 12:24 AM
Did you ever land a job?
There are several social networking sites for scientific researchers that might help:
http://www.researchgate.net/
http://sciencestage.com/
http://www.scispace.com/
-t
peacepotpaul
04-23-2010, 01:36 AM
what happened here?
MelissaWV
04-23-2010, 06:36 AM
what happened here?
He got banned :p
rancher89
04-23-2010, 07:16 AM
Depends on the line of work.
That degree you spent $40k on might only serve to get you in the door in fields like engineering and science. It also allows companies to set themselves up to lay off older engineers/scientists who are getting ready to retire (and make a lot more money) and boost their "college-degreed" ratio to impress their investors.
The short-sightedness of some of these companies is rather ridiculous, many of the people they get rid of are "old-school" guys who are so specialized in their knowledge that you just can't predict what they'll know.
For instance, I was doing studies on a very viscous agar and had no idea what the actual viscosity was, this ancient guy who would come in once a week after he retired. He happened to have the measurements that they'd done in the 70's. I would have had to purchase $5k worth of equipment and run a $10k study. I swear, this guy knew the numbers for this stuff and so many other things off the top of his head.
He'd come and have lunch with me every Wednesday and talk about all the projects I was working on, and could fill in the gaps of data that I did not have, thus helping direct the research and make it more efficient.
He did this for *free* because he was one of a dying breed: A company loyalist, and a brilliant guy to boot, who couldn't tolerate total retirement. I was one of the few who didn't just see him as that weird guy in the basement office.
They could have included him in things, they could have given him some "perks," but they just don't value people like that anymore.
And no, he didn't have a degree.
(Pre-emptive: Shaddap Danke!)
I had to know the viscosity of some flammable stuff, (it makes a difference when you are figuring out how to put out a fire - whether it sits there like a blob or runs downhill.....) I called the company that made the stuff and they didn't know either, no one had ever asked them. That sort of thing is supposed to be on the MSDS sheets and it wasn't........not even Factory Mutual had info on it.
I made them (the manufacturers) do the tests and tell me the numbers.
I miss having a job......
amy31416
04-23-2010, 07:41 AM
I had to know the viscosity of some flammable stuff, (it makes a difference when you are figuring out how to put out a fire - whether it sits there like a blob or runs downhill.....) I called the company that made the stuff and they didn't know either, no one had ever asked them. That sort of thing is supposed to be on the MSDS sheets and it wasn't........not even Factory Mutual had info on it.
I made them (the manufacturers) do the tests and tell me the numbers.
I miss having a job......
That sorta stuff is kinda fun, isn't it? :p
Dealing with fellow manufacturers was always fun and the people working there knew all kinds of weird trivia on their stuff, or they were fascinated to hear what we were using it for, but dealing with regulatory agencies is almost always the exact opposite. The FDA never knew squat about science, the EPA were almost always incompetent boobs--and the one time I had to deal with the DEA--good god, they treated me like I wanted to make explosives or meth with half a gram of a chemical needed for cancer research.
Because of the DEA, the research did not continue--in order to have the chemical, we would have had to pay for a revamp of the chemical holding area, have background checks done and pay for it to be inspected every year.
Meanwhile, another lab I worked in had 30+ year old cans of TNT laying around. :p
rancher89
04-23-2010, 07:58 AM
That sorta stuff is kinda fun, isn't it? :p
Dealing with fellow manufacturers was always fun and the people working there knew all kinds of weird trivia on their stuff, or they were fascinated to hear what we were using it for, but dealing with regulatory agencies is almost always the exact opposite. The FDA never knew squat about science, the EPA were almost always incompetent boobs--and the one time I had to deal with the DEA--good god, they treated me like I wanted to make explosives or meth with half a gram of a chemical needed for cancer research.
Because of the DEA, the research did not continue--in order to have the chemical, we would have had to pay for a revamp of the chemical holding area, have background checks done and pay for it to be inspected every year.
Meanwhile, another lab I worked in had 30+ year old cans of TNT laying around. :p
Good grief amypi! TNT that old is really nitro.......
Yep, it's fun digging into stuff and getting the right info for what you need to do...Some of the stuff I've been asked to protect: Cotton bales, cotton seed, acetone, lithium batteries, tires, paints and a whole battery of paper/plastic products. A buddy designed a system to protect the garbage compactors from discarded propane tanks that would explode under the pressure.......
A fire can smolder inside a cotton bale for days and explode into a huge fire when the bale is opened up. The seeds get thrown from the gin into a warehouse--lots of oil in the seeds + lots of friction = fire----as in a flashover, set the dust on fire sort of thing...actually got hot enough to melt a structural beam. There's no code for that sort of thing, we told the guy that he needed to put the seed directly into transport and take it to the processing plant, asap.....
Cool stuff.
My husband designed a system for military test engine building fire suppression. We have him on video somewhere at the first test.
ninepointfive
04-23-2010, 02:30 PM
The job market is currently an oasis - far off and hidden in the sands.
JeNNiF00F00
04-23-2010, 03:54 PM
Job? Whats that??
rancher89
04-23-2010, 05:13 PM
Yep, I'm at 16 months and counting.....
jsu718
04-23-2010, 05:52 PM
Beats mine... I am at 14 months. If I find anything it will start in August so that will take it to 18.
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