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FrankRep
04-03-2010, 08:15 AM
Koch brothers and Exxon deserve medals (http://mensnewsdaily.com/2010/04/03/greenpeace-report-koch-brothers-and-exxon-deserve-medals/)


Men News Daily
April 3, 2010


We have been awestruck by the audacity of the global warming scam. If taken to fruition, it will destroy freedom and democracy, devastate the economies of the modern world, and concentrate unimaginable power and wealth in the hands of a small international group of politically connected criminals.

Organized through the United Nations, scientific research and education related to weather came nearly to an end. A handful of people controlled reports from a UN’s International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). These reports were used to plant extraordinary and scientifically unfounded predictions about catastrophic global warming caused by human existence. Left leaning journalists, including a new core of “environmental journalists” jumped at the chance to declare that humans are bad and more government power is an urgent necessity.

Financing of science and education through governments aimed directly at pushing the political agenda, with IPCC reports as the excuse. Skeptics were ostracized while thousands of scientists were paid to include global warming fears in published works. Suddenly, there were claims that every scary thing imaginable was being caused by or would be caused by man-made global warming.

Former Vice President Al Gore, claiming “scientific consensus,” exaggerated the IPCC claims in a powerfully promoted propaganda film An Inconvenient Truth, which made its way into many class rooms to frighten young children. By the mid-2000s, many people believed that global warming might be something to fear and that government action might be prudent.

It was time for “business as usual.” Threats from politicians to industry became credible. Barack Obama for example, directly threatened to put the coal industry out of business. Threats of sky-rocketing taxes and operating costs put business globally on the defensive. Woe unto those who didn’t get into the game. Lobbying activity sky-rocketed.

The movement made it a long way past the starting gate and seemed unstoppable. Thanks to 10s of thousands of honest scientists and other analysts, the tide began to turn. Information spread across the Internet that the majority of scientists do not believe the IPCC claims. If you were interested enough to look, clear explanations were available on the lack of actual scientific support behind the claims along with scientific evidence of falsehood. Books and articles were published on both the scientific hoax and the political and economic damage that would be caused if the political agenda succeeded. (my first)

Late last year, the public was suddenly jerked into reality by publication of emails and other information hacked from computers at the East Anglia Climate Research Unit in England. The emails included exchanges between some of the most influential scientists involved in the global scam. They discussed manipulating data to give fraudulent support to catastrophic global warming claims, hiding data to keep from having their work checked, and controlling the peer-review process to maintain an aire of scientific credibility, among other things. It was the first in a series of smoking guns.

According to a report by Greenpeace (http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/usa/press-center/reports4/koch-industries-secretly-fund.pdf), public awareness that the man-made global warming scare is a hoax has been driven primarily by a “conspiracy” involving Charles and David Koch of Koch Industries and ExxonMobil. I know. I know. Greenpeace. Why bother. Hardly a credible source. Greenpeace renews the Bush-Big Oil conspiracy theory to destroy the planet to counter evidence that they and other conspirators have been lying about climate to promote their agenda. Their shocking evidence is that industrialists give money to organizations that openly state that they operate on private donations and are pro-industry and that they also donate to political campaigns. I guess the extremely far left now has their political agenda so well supported by public money that they have no need for private donations to such organizations as Greenpeace and Democrats apparently no longer accept campaign contributions. (sarcasm)

But let’s just assume for the sake of argument that there is something to the Greenpeace theory. Koch Industries and ExxonMobil have provided large amounts of money to fund the battle against “climate change” propaganda. Good for them. Good for industry. Good for business. Good for the people.

We’re not out of the woods yet. Barack Obama illegally ordered the EPA to implement CO2 regulation after the Senate refused to pass his “climate” bill. So deep are his back-room financial deals, that not even public awareness that it is a scam is stopping him.

The battle must be fought and we must never surrender. If Charles and David Koch and ExxonMobil are playing even a fraction of the part in public education as Greenpeace claims, then we owe them our thanks. I urge you to write your congressperson today and recommend Congressional Gold Medals for the brothers and for ExxonMobil executives. Tell them it’s based on a Greenpeace report.


SOURCE:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2010/04/03/greenpeace-report-koch-brothers-and-exxon-deserve-medals/

FrankRep
04-03-2010, 08:17 AM
Greenpeace Unmasks Koch Industries' Funding of Climate Denial Industry (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/greenpeace-unmasks-koch-i_b_518036.html)


Huffington Post
March 30, 2010

...
The companyís founder, Fred Koch, who once earned $5 million building oil refineries in the Soviet Union during Joseph Stalinís reign, was a co-founder of the libertarian John Birch Society. Charles G. and David H. Koch, two of Fredís four sons, each now own 42% of the companyís stock. According to 2009 Forbes rankings, the Koch brothers are tied for the 19th-richest person in the world, and for ninth-richest American, each worth between $14 and $16 billion, more than George Soros or the founders of Google.
...


Thank you Fred Koch for helping to start the John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/)!

Petar
04-03-2010, 08:22 AM
I somehow doubt that any serious energy players, such as the Koch brothers, are not in on the whole cap and trade scam themselves.

FrankRep
04-03-2010, 08:33 AM
IPCC Researchers Admit Global Warming Fraud
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2377-ipcc-researchers-admit-global-warming-fraud

The Bogus Science of Global Warming
http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5695-the-bogus-science-of-global-warming

Scandal Over Missing Climate Documents Continues
http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5711-scandal-over-missing-climate-documents-continues

Copenhagen Conference Comes Down to Cash, Not Science
http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5731-copenhagen-conference-comes-down-to-cash-not-science



Global-warming Alarmism Dying a Slow Death
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/3211-global-warming-alarmism-dying-a-slow-death

Scientist's Climate Change Dissent Vindicated
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/3007-scientists-climate-change-dissent-vindicated

IPCC's Bogus Claims About Melting Glaciers
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2816-ipccs-bogus-claims-about-melting-glaciers

Pachauri's Lucrative World of Climate Change
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/2683-pachauris-lucrative-world-of-climate-change

Cheers and Jeers at Copenhagen’s Climate Conference
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/2674-cheers-and-jeers-at-copenhagens-climate-conference

AP Caught Misleading On Climategate
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2662-ap-caught-misleading-on-climategate

Russia Confirms Climategate Scandal
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2594-russia-confirms-climategate-scandal

FrankRep
04-03-2010, 08:38 AM
I somehow doubt that any serious energy players such as the Koch brothers, are not in on the whole cap and trade scam themselves.

I know the Koch Bothers aren't involved in Cap and Trade. The Koch Bothers are Libertarian. Fred Koch was a co-founder of the John Birch Society.


Wikipedia: David H. Koch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Koch#Political_advocacy)


David Koch was the Libertarian Party's vice-presidential candidate in the 1980 US presidential election, sharing the party ticket with Ed Clark. The Clark-Koch ticket received just under one million popular votes and remains the most successful Libertarian presidential campaign to date.

David Koch currently serves on the board of directors of the libertarian Cato Institute and the Reason Foundation. His brother Charles Koch has also been active in organizing and funding foundations and think-tanks such as the Cato Institute.


Wikipedia: Charles G. Koch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Koch#Political_activities)


Charles Koch is a libertarian and supports many free-market organizations such as the Cato Institute, which he founded together with Edward H. Crane and Murray Rothbard in 1977.

MRoCkEd
04-03-2010, 08:56 AM
Why is Koch Industries funding Rand's opponent?

FrankRep
04-03-2010, 09:05 AM
Why is Koch Industries funding Rand's opponent?

Good point and I forgot about that.

Koch Bothers are connected to the "Libertarian" Reason Foundation and the Cato Institute, which have been overtly hostile (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2626851#post2626851) to Ron Paul.


Koch Brothers Fund Trey Grayson’s Campaign
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/54531.html

Antiwar.com: Ron Paul has some pretty vicious enemies inside the Libertarian Movement
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=233667

Aratus
04-03-2010, 11:22 AM
okay... my opine on the Al Gore verses the Koch bros. thingie... like
maybe what if there is a bigger picture? iceland has a mini-volcano
trying maybe to go as maxi as vesuvius or karaktoa and even
if the new volcano is as civilized as are many of the hawaiian
island volcanos, lets keep in mind that europe once had a mid-1500s
to early 1800s mini-ice-age when an older historic iceland volcano
belched in a big way most contemporary to isaac newton. GOTO
peter brueghel's winter scenes. even though summer of 1658 was very
unusually warm, with its mini-twisters, the climate shifted cold. could
the new volcano counter our CO2 emissions via dust and thusly our
weather could occilate? there were global red skies at sun up & sundown
after the 1883 eruption. right now we just had the SECOND wettest month
ever up here in N.E after the south was cursing AL GORE and shoveling
out from blizzards that even nipped the oranges in their florida groves...
what if we are to have occilating freaky weather as our sugar maple trees
desert us down here for canadian turf in a very loyalist manner? this is said
as many of the plants & birds jefferson knew in auld virginny's books of flora
and fauna are up here as many of the species i knew in my childhood are
going quite canadian! what if all is not a linear direction and is a murky 50/50
where our CO2 belches as a civilization are a secondary aspect & factor to all this!!!

Aratus
04-03-2010, 11:36 AM
seriously, did william johnson go into the red in full to the tune of a 1/4 million
or did a big plunk of matching funds that weren't uncle sam & recent election law
sorta help him out and FAMILIARIZE him to may voters who may like the cut of his jib?
is SOMEONE grooming a nice string of nEw candidates on the political right yet these same
said 'someones' are a tad scared over the idea that there are philosophical principles inside all
the collected works of our founding fathers & people who reach back into time often do so wisely?

low preference guy
04-03-2010, 03:03 PM
The Koch brothers deserve Medals for exposing the Global Warming Hoax

Sure, but they also deserve getting spit on the face for being pro-war, pro-fed, and for supporting Neocon Trey Grayson over Rand Paul.

Petar
04-03-2010, 04:19 PM
I know the Koch Bothers aren't involved in Cap and Trade. The Koch Bothers are Libertarian. Fred Koch was a co-founder of the John Birch Society.


Wikipedia: David H. Koch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Koch#Political_advocacy)


David Koch was the Libertarian Party's vice-presidential candidate in the 1980 US presidential election, sharing the party ticket with Ed Clark. The Clark-Koch ticket received just under one million popular votes and remains the most successful Libertarian presidential campaign to date.

David Koch currently serves on the board of directors of the libertarian Cato Institute and the Reason Foundation. His brother Charles Koch has also been active in organizing and funding foundations and think-tanks such as the Cato Institute.


Wikipedia: Charles G. Koch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Koch#Political_activities)


Charles Koch is a libertarian and supports many free-market organizations such as the Cato Institute, which he founded together with Edward H. Crane and Murray Rothbard in 1977.

So how exactly do you KNOW that these ultra-wealthy neocons are not connected to cap-n-trade, via a private bank, or some other elite channel?

Because they label themselves as "Libertarian"?

So does Glen Beck, as well as any number of charlatans...

FrankRep
04-03-2010, 04:27 PM
So how exactly do you KNOW that these ultra-wealthy neocons are not connected to cap-n-trade, via a private bank, or some other elite channel?

Because they label themselves as "Libertarian"?

Before you accuse someone, give some evidence and facts.

Petar
04-06-2010, 12:23 AM
Before you accuse someone, give some evidence and facts.

The fact that they are massive players in the energy industry is pretty much proof in itself that they are prepared to cash in on what was set to be the most massive transfer of wealth in history (cap-n-trade).

The only way that they could not be involved, is if their morals precede them, but considering their unabashed intimacy with globalist cartels such as The Fed, or the US Industrial-Military-Complex, then I consider their own history as evidence towards the contrary.

axiomata
04-06-2010, 12:35 AM
Petar,

I'd hazard to guess that the Koch family was libertarian before you were born. Definitely more of a cosmopolitan, Republican-friendly and DC-insider breed than Ron Paul libertarians, but libertarians nonetheless.

Not only do you not have evidence that they are supporters of cap and trade, simple reasoning makes it unlikely.

The fact is, the impetus behind cap and trade is global warming, and the Koch family of think tanks and oil industry offshoots has spent a lot of money debating the evidence of the global warming theories. If they were set to make a boatload on cap and trade, why would they be funding the global warming skeptics? It makes no sense.

Petar
04-06-2010, 10:52 AM
Petar,

I'd hazard to guess that the Koch family was libertarian before you were born. Definitely more of a cosmopolitan, Republican-friendly and DC-insider breed than Ron Paul libertarians, but libertarians nonetheless.

Not only do you not have evidence that they are supporters of cap and trade, simple reasoning makes it unlikely.

The fact is, the impetus behind cap and trade is global warming, and the Koch family of think tanks and oil industry offshoots has spent a lot of money debating the evidence of the global warming theories. If they were set to make a boatload on cap and trade, why would they be funding the global warming skeptics? It makes no sense.

I don't personally consider supporters of central-banking and US military imperialism as "libertarian" just because they also happen to pay lip service to the free-market and personal liberty etc.

Hypocrites like that are just parasites on legitimate libertarianism, and I believe that the duplicity is very often intentional.

I think that the Koch brothers are as "libertarian" as their PR people, and also their friends at the CFR, have decided that they need to appear to be.

I don't for a second believe that the Koch brothers are not fully prepared to cash in on the biggest transfer of wealth in human history (cap-n-trade), and the fact that their phony philanthropy would appear to suggest otherwise means very little to me.