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TheBlackPeterSchiff
03-29-2010, 01:04 PM
Risk for GOP comes from extreme fringe
By Julian E. Zelizer, Special to CNN
STORY HIGHLIGHTS


Princeton, New Jersey (CNN) -- As he stood before the delegates of the 1964 Republican Convention in San Francisco, California, Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater, the party's presidential nominee, said, "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

The delegates, who had booed New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller when he called for the party to respect moderation, were thrilled. Many of Goldwater's supporters were determined to push their party toward the right wing of the political spectrum. They felt that their party leaders, including President Eisenhower, had simply offered a watered-down version of the New Deal.

Yet Goldwater soon learned that extremism could quickly become a political vice, particularly to a party seeking to regain control of the White House. The right wing of the Republican Party in the early 1960s inhabited a world that included extremist organizations, such as the John Birch Society, that railed against communism.

The Birchers developed a huge network of local activists, reaching more than 100,000 members. They published pamphlets and books and threw their support behind local candidates. Some mainstream conservative outlets depended on supporters who were in these groups. Many right-wing organizations in the South were opponents of civil rights and advocates of racial segregation.

During the fall campaign of 1964, President Johnson devastated Goldwater and his running mate, William Miller, by painting them as an extremist duo with close ties to military hawks and racist demagogues.

Since Miller, a New York congressman, was known for his close ties to the right, Democrats could charge that Republicans had not balanced their ticket.

The "Daisy" advertisement had Americans look into the eyeball of a young girl as it reflected the image of a nuclear explosion. Another advertisement showed images of the Ku Klux Klan decked out in their garb and carrying burning crosses.

The ads played on statements by the candidates and extremist organizations. The narrator of the KKK ad reminded viewers that Robert Creel, grand dragon of the Alabama KKK, had said: "I like Barry Goldwater. He needs our help."

Democrats certainly had their extremists as well in the 1960s, as all the discussions about Bill Ayers and the Weathermen in the 2008 campaign reminded us. Yet in the 1960s, the Democratic leadership was removed from these elements of the liberal spectrum.

Indeed, radical left-wing activists were primarily revolting against what they saw as the bankrupt leadership of the Democratic Party.

They hated Lyndon Johnson even more than they hated Richard Nixon. Always nervous about being tagged by Republicans in a conservative era as too close to socialism, Democrats in Congress and in the White House since the 1960s have tended to distance themselves from fringe elements of the left.

Now Republicans are facing the danger of being associated with extremism once again. Last week, following the vote on health care, members of Congress have were the targets of death threats and vandalism.

In the final hours of the health care debate, there were reports about how health care opponents uttered racial slurs at Georgia Democratic Rep. John Lewis, a hero of the civil rights movement, and sexual epithets against Rep. Barney Frank, who is openly gay.

Sarah Palin sent out a statement on Twitter that urged followers, "Don't Retreat, Instead-Reload!" Palin explained later that her use of those words was not about "inciting violence," but rather about inspiring people to get involved in the political process.

Some ugly elements of the Tea Party movement, which have been held in check since the original Washington protest in September, have returned to the political debate.

In the short-term, the Tea Party movement has helped to revitalize the Republican Party.

Without question, the kind of energy that has been fostered by the activists associated with these groups has helped Republicans mobilize their supporters and can clearly be helpful at bringing out the vote in the midterm elections.

By generating interest in the libertarian and anti-government arguments of conservatism, the movement will help keep conservatives motivated after their loss on health care. It is fair to say that many Americans who support this cause are simply expressing legitimate and deeply held antipathies toward Washington.

But extremism is there, and it has flared in the past few weeks. This kind of rhetoric will not produce long-term gains for the Republican Party. Realizing the threat, Republican leaders have begun to disassociate themselves from these elements of the movement.

There have been a few voices of condemnation, such as House Minority Leader John Boehner who said "violence and threats are unacceptable." Local Tea Party organizers have also stepped forward with words of condemnation.

Leaders from the Florida Tea Party said in a letter to President Obama that they stood in "stark opposition to any person using derogatory characterizations, threats of violence, or disparaging terms toward members of Congress or the president."

These statements are encouraging and strike the right note. Yet Republicans need to follow through by continuing to exert pressure on local organizational leaders to stamp out this kind of activity.

They must also avoid contradictory messages, such as the statement of House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, who accused Democrats of "fanning the flames" by using the incidents as a "political weapon." Cantor had a bullet fired at his campaign office after receiving anti-Semitic threats, but local police described the bullet as random gunfire not directed at his office.

The leadership statements must be unambiguous and firm, leaving no question in voters' minds that this is not what conservatism is about.

When Ronald Reagan ran for the presidency in 1980, he worked hard to weaken the connections that existed between Republicans and the fringes. He learned the lessons of 1964 and sought to remake a Republican Party that could appeal to mainstream America. Reagan realized that if he did not, the perception of extremism would pose a long-term threat to the party's future.

Now Republicans are facing the Goldwater threat once again. At the same time that conservatives have every right to oppose and challenge President Obama's agenda, they must make clear that there are limits and that the kinds of actions that we have seen in recent days are not something that either party will be willing to tolerate in the year ahead.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Julian Zelizer.


Thoughts?

FrankRep
03-29-2010, 01:14 PM
Thoughts?

CNN wants the Republicans to stay Leftist. Typical CNN propaganda.

lester1/2jr
03-29-2010, 01:14 PM
isn't the goldwater revolution usually credited for the election og Reagan and the conservative ascendecy?


and the daisy ad was taking aim at his hawkishness, which was in my opinion his weak suit.

The democrats of today are as hawkish as he was. they were then too!

Bruno
03-29-2010, 01:16 PM
They are just using the logic that because the risk for the Democrats comes from their left fringe (Obama) that the same must be true for Republicans.

low preference guy
03-29-2010, 01:16 PM
Biased article. He goes out if his way to show that the bullet in Cantor's office was a random one, but is happy to report the supposed racial slurs to Congressman from tea parties without proof. Why doesn't he mention the incident in which a black tea partier was beaten up by union thugs for having an opinion "that a black man is not supposed to have"?

The opinion piece comes from "Princeton, New Jersey". What can you expect?

bobbyw24
03-29-2010, 01:16 PM
Can you imagine CNN with a piece entitled:

"Democrats must resist Socialist fringe"?

georgiaboy
03-29-2010, 01:16 PM
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Julian Zelizer

pretty much sums it up.

trying to paint the mainstream conservative movement against big gov't and for individual liberty as 'fringe', 'violent', 'racist', all in one broad brush is just a waste of the blogosphere.

emazur
03-29-2010, 01:22 PM
I didn't know they tried to smear Goldwater w/ KKK ads - it's always the Daisy ad that gets all the attention.

Not so sure about that statement about Reagan trying to sever the connections w/ the fringes - it was he that brought the lunatic religious right into the GOP. Many people would be more open to the ideas of conservatism if not for that religious right, but now the perception is:
conservatism = GOP = bible thumpers = Bush = Palin

AuH20
03-29-2010, 01:28 PM
The media loves their pseudo-conservatives like Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and the Bushes, when they weren't kicking them down for purely political reasons. But when the constitutionalists come out in full force, they must remind them of their past principled leadership.

Anti Federalist
03-29-2010, 01:31 PM
People still watch CNN?

emazur
03-29-2010, 01:37 PM
and the daisy ad was taking aim at his hawkishness, which was in my opinion his weak suit.


People thought Goldwater was nuke crazy - if only they knew about LBJ:
YouTube - Daniel Ellsberg: Nixon & Johnson secretly threatened to nuke Vietnam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJC-aqBsEZw)

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=Article&id=1373

Goldwater said that the United States should do whatever it took to support U.S. troops in the war and that if the administration was not prepared to "take the war to North Vietnam," it should withdraw. Although Goldwater discussed the possibility of using low-yield nuclear weapons to defoliate infiltration routes in Vietnam, he never actually advocated the use of nuclear weapons against the North Vietnamese.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/28337.html

Goldwater had surely earned his reputation as a gunslinger with his proposal to use tactical nukes to defoliate Vietnam, his repeated calls to give NATO armies the right to use atomic weapons on their own, and his constant refrain that U.S. strategists shouldn't let fear of nuclear war keep them from standing up to the Soviet Union. But, as Perlstein notes, Goldwater in this case was a mere echo of the mainstream foreign policy thinking in the Democratic Party. When it came to the Cold War, the two parties were both unremittingly hawkish. Goldwater's decree that "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" was merely the Reader's Digest version of Kennedy's Inaugural Day promise that "we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

The most white-knuckle act of nuclear brinkmanship in American history was Kennedy's blockade of Cuba during the missile crisis. A close second was his nationally televised 1961 speech in which he bluntly threatened to go to war with the Soviets over Berlin, putting long-range bombers on 15 minutes' alert and warning Americans to start building fallout shelters. Perlstein calls the speech "the most terrifying of the Cold War" and adds: "Later Barry Goldwater would say the same kinds of things during the 1964 presidential campaign, and people would call him a madman."

Perlstein is equally merciless when it comes to Vietnam. Goldwater, he notes, insistently and correctly argued that Kennedy and Johnson had gotten the United States far more deeply involved than anyone realized, that we were sliding into an impossible "defensive war" that neither Congress nor the American public had ever authorized. Johnson replied, straight-faced, with the most notorious lie in the history of American politics: "We are not going to send American boys nine or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves." As he spoke, his best and brightest advisors were putting the finishing touches on a deployment plan that would have nearly 200,000 American soldiers in Vietnam within a year.

And the effects of Agent Orange were just as bad, if not significantly worse than a nuclear bomb:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13974

fisharmor
03-29-2010, 01:46 PM
I wasn't there, but I hear the standard joke was:

They told me if I voted for Goldwater, there'd be war with Viet Nam. Well, true enough, I voted for Goldwater, and now we're at war with Viet Nam.

Matt Collins
03-29-2010, 01:50 PM
Link to the piece?

AuH20
03-29-2010, 01:56 PM
And you think Ron Paul had it bad in the 2008 primaries? Lew Rockwell remembers the coordinated attacks by the media in 1964.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/before-storm.html


The entire drama – the draft movement, the nomination struggle, Nelson Rockefeller, the hopelessly biased media – is chronicled in these pages. The smears are especially bracing to recount. We are reminded of Walter Cronkite's and Daniel Schorr's on-air claim that Goldwater was going to Hitler's former vacation home in Bavaria to meet neo-Nazis. Norman Mailer, covering the convention for Esquire, said the resounding cheers reminded him of Sieg Heils. Pornographer Ralph Ginzberg set up Fact magazine to recruit psychiatrists who would call Goldwater crazy. A Methodist magazine referred to its issue on Goldwaterism as a "continuation of its response to the threat of Hitler."

Though "our own little purities" only won 27 million votes, Americans did not forget the call for freedom from federal power. And many of the astounding 3.9 million Goldwater volunteers remained active in politics. Indeed, with the end of the Cold War making possible the end of warfare ideology on the right, the domestic heart of Goldwaterism is making progress once again.

CharlesTX
03-29-2010, 02:16 PM
Democrats must resist "Maoist fringe". Too late.

lester1/2jr
03-29-2010, 03:12 PM
emazur- I said that in my post! dems were just as bad as were the rockefeller repubs

Epic
03-29-2010, 03:21 PM
So... basically this leftist is happy with the current big-government neoconservative Republican establishment.

angelatc
03-29-2010, 03:37 PM
CNN wants the Republicans to stay Leftist. Typical CNN propaganda.

Yes. The GOP should not take its marching orders from CNN.

Chester Copperpot
03-29-2010, 03:47 PM
liberty equals KKK

YouTube - Lyndon B Johnson 1964 TV Ad - LBJ Goldwater KKK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWusOhZpq7w)

Isaac Bickerstaff
03-29-2010, 03:59 PM
Notice the absence of mention of Ron Paul. This is good. It tells us that they planning on dividing the Tea Party folks with Palin. If they had mentioned Dr. Paul, it would mean that the Tea Party was already neutralized. They still need to attach the notion of extremism to the Tea Party before they can use it to discredit Ron Paul.

catdd
03-29-2010, 04:02 PM
Can you imagine CNN with a piece entitled:

"Democrats must resist Socialist fringe"?

That would make too much sense.

FrankRep
03-29-2010, 04:07 PM
Can you imagine CNN with a piece entitled:

"Democrats must resist Socialist fringe"?

Ex-Russian in Texas: Obama talking exactly like how the old Soviet leaders used to talk

“I said to myself, ‘Uh-oh, if he wins it’s going to be a real mess.’ I got depressed. I’m living in a socialist country again.”


Texas Nationalist Movement
http://www.texasnationalist.com/info/tnm-news/280-russian-emigrant-seeks-freedom-with-texas-nationalists-