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bobbyw24
03-29-2010, 04:03 AM
After more than a year of campaigning, President Obama (left) finally won much-needed and long-overdue changes to our health care system. Achieving what four other presidents could not, Obama broke through the political impasse to obtain health care coverage for the vast majority of uninsured Americans. The president now needs to take this mandate and act quickly on what should be the next major item on his domestic agenda: modernizing our immigration system.

Comprehensive immigration reform requires a balanced and measured approach that includes a broad legalization component, a foreign policy that promotes meaningful and equitable economic development in the region, and humane enforcement measures that strengthen, rather than divide, local communities. Any comprehensive immigration reform bill thus must hold as its centerpiece a fair and practicable legalization plan that recognizes and respects the diversity of our communities.

The clearest option would be granting undocumented immigrants, including LGBT domestic partners, broad access to permanent resident status so they could work and travel freely. It is only when we remove the fear of deportation that we truly remove the burden of second-class citizenship. While the word "amnesty" is politically unpopular in some circles, its true meaning is reprieve or absolution. Amnesty does not mean a free ride, as people must still pay fines, wait their turn in line and comply with whatever new rules are developed. – SFGate.com

Dominant Social Theme: Painting the canvas of future greatness. The great uniters will unite all.

Free-Market Analysis: This article is the story of a canvas now being painted. It may even end up with a portrait of an international couple being married. But it is not a pretty picture by any means. Investors with holdings in the United States – dollars, bonds and stocks – will have to beware of what is coming. Some of the largest markets in the world could be further destabilized in the near or fairly-near future.

The problems have to do with the Obama administration's focus on upcoming legislation. While financial reform is an interesting topic, US President Barack Obama and those behind his administration are aiming, in our estimation, at a bigger prize - immigration reform. They seem to want to introduce such legislation soon, and while it may not go anywhere after a divisive health care debate, we think that it will come back again and again, as it is important to a larger agenda. This article will concentrate on immigration reform and its eventual ramifications, financial and otherwise.

To start, one has to grant continuity between this administration and the last (a Republican one) and grant also that each party is a continuation of the other. The players behind the scenes are a power elite that continually seeks further consolidation and concentration of wealth (in its hands) at the expense of the middle class and other influential factions of a participatory democracy.

If one does grant this, the picture steadily reveals itself, even if it is not finished. What one sees, however, if one looks hard, is a potential finished work that will be one of amazing trickery and false perceptions. Yet, it is not a new effort. In fact, it's been going on for decades, but the health care bill was doubtless a major advance. Here's a Fox News story that reveals more of the big picture:

Immigration Reform Could KO Health Care ... While Congress voted to overhaul U.S. health care and provide universal coverage, 15 percent of America's uninsured population remains uncovered and unaddressed: illegal immigrants. Democrats are expected to introduce comprehensive immigration reform legislation this spring, and when they do, health care costs will once again be front and center. Under the new law just passed, illegal immigrants are not entitled to health care. That means undocumented workers will continue to get care the way they always have, showing up at county clinics and hospitals for emergency treatment. According to cost estimates submitted by various states, that costs taxpayers and ratepayers about $4.3 billion a year.

However, according to the conservative-leaning Center for Immigration Studies, that number would spike from $10 billion to $30 billion annually under immigration reform. ... But cost isn't the only issue. Enrolling illegal immigrants into the new system will improve health outcomes. Dr. Steven Wallace of the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research says including undocumented workers in the health care overhaul makes sense. "In the long term, the point is to make sure all Americans who are living here and working here have access to health care," he says. "It is simpler and therefore more efficient if you simply say, everybody who works gets health insurance. Everybody who has a low income, we will help you and we move forward. People don't come to the U.S. for health care, they come to work."

Now, please follow us. It's not really hard to see completion. The general thrust of the new legislation is that all Americans must be insured under the new health care plan or pay a fine. There are various ways that Americans can gain health care, and various subsidies as well. Bottom line, with Americans paying more and more for health care, there will be increased pressure to rein in illegal aliens and to make sure that immigrants not in the US legally are not taking advantage of US health care.

And this is impossible.

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http://www.thedailybell.com/923/Obama-Sets-Sights-on-Merging-Mexico-and-US.html

moostraks
03-29-2010, 08:01 AM
Looking at the possible goals of tptb, I believe that the immigration issue will be the focus because it will achieve the most and be the easier sales pitch based upon apathy of a larger number of people. They will do a reasonable sales pitch such as the argument that with illegals still receiving healthcare we either legalize them or refuse care. How is that one going to play out? Well everyone who opposes legalization will be seen as heartless monsters.

Healthcare is the turning point and we either accept being boiled or realize just how far they are going to push the issue to control every facet of our existence and....(well the response shall remain up to the level of pain threshold of the reader to fill in)

SamuraisWisdom
03-29-2010, 09:25 AM
And what would be so bad about uniting with Mexico? All it would do is expand our borders, give us new markets, and make the Mexican people's lives better. Sounds pretty good to me. It's kind of like us expanding out West only there's already infrastructure and population. Will it be easy at first? Of course not, but in the long haul I think it will benefit us and Mexico.

MelissaWV
03-29-2010, 09:29 AM
And what would be so bad about uniting with Mexico? All it would do is expand our borders, give us new markets, and make the Mexican people's lives better. Sounds pretty good to me. It's kind of like us expanding out West only there's already infrastructure and population. Will it be easy at first? Of course not, but in the long haul I think it will benefit us and Mexico.


It is far more likely that the US would go down than that Mexico would elevate. We'd inherit a lot of problems and a falsely inflated employed populace which would then be subject to our workplace laws, at which point companies that fled to Mexico will uproot and flee to, say, China or India or someplace else. The drug wars south of the border are not going to go away but will, instead, be absorbed into US territory.

This is a wretched idea on all fronts, but it's hyperbole. We're not going to merge with Mexico.

Juan McCain
03-29-2010, 10:07 AM
It would add only 111 million more to be insured with the compulsory healthcare plan too.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
03-29-2010, 11:41 AM
And what would be so bad about uniting with Mexico? All it would do is expand our borders, give us new markets, and make the Mexican people's lives better. Sounds pretty good to me. It's kind of like us expanding out West only there's already infrastructure and population. Will it be easy at first? Of course not, but in the long haul I think it will benefit us and Mexico.

As the United States and Canada are the New World, Mexico is the Old. Mexicans can thank the dictator Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna for this as he is the one who abolished their Mexican Constitution. In order to protect his dictatorship, Santa Anna had to set up a military Aristocracy deeming all the wealth of the nation, of which was won by and so owned primarily by the Mexican people, to a few thousand families. This is why Mexico should be considered a tyranny and its people not allowedacross our borders unless they make a conscious effort to realize that they are leaving behind a pitiful culture for a better formal one.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
03-29-2010, 11:45 AM
It is far more likely that the US would go down than that Mexico would elevate. We'd inherit a lot of problems and a falsely inflated employed populace which would then be subject to our workplace laws, at which point companies that fled to Mexico will uproot and flee to, say, China or India or someplace else. The drug wars south of the border are not going to go away but will, instead, be absorbed into US territory.

This is a wretched idea on all fronts, but it's hyperbole. We're not going to merge with Mexico.

As our nation was the one founded on a Truth and such will endure forever, how can we be confused with one founded on a lie?