Libertarian Says States Should Not Battle HCR In Federal Courts

[Matt Collins]

Libertarian Says States Should Not Battle HCR In Federal Courts


http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2010/03/state-attorney-generals-should-not-sue.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HumbleLibertarian+%28The+Humb le+Libertarian%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

[FrankRep]

But what I want to see is some nullification coming from the states, not Federal lawsuits filed by state officials

I agree. Nullification!



http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_12-2009/2605-coverstory.jpg

State vs. Federal: The Nullification Movement
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/2957-state-vs-federal-the-nullification-movement

Nullification in a Nutshell
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/american/2971-nullification-in-a-nutshell


Get your state to Pass the Health Care Freedom Act

Health Care Nullification Legislation
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/nullification/health-care/

[sevin]

Instead of implicitly acknowledging Federal authority over the states by suing in a Federal court, each state legislature should pass a law declaring the health care bill unconstitutional, and instructing the state's attorney general to protect state residents from any Federal agents that try to enforce it.

Couldn't agree more. Obama knows these lawsuits will go nowhere. That's why he said, "Bring it on."

[jmdrake]

Why not do both? The states have a good case against being forced to expand their medicaid rolls.

That said, it's easy to sit around and say "nullify". Does anyone have any idea how exactly that would work? This is going to be enforced by the IRS. Are states going to start sending in state troopers to shut down IRS offices? Short of that.....?

[FrankRep]

That said, it's easy to sit around and say "nullify". Does anyone have any idea how exactly that would work?

The Healthcare Freedom Act changes the State Constitution to make it illegal for the Federal Government to force you to buy healthcare. Quite clever.

[Matt Collins]

Why not do both? The states have a good case against being forced to expand their medicaid rolls.What happens if they lose in Federal courts as they most assuredly will? :confused:

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[Juan McCain]

What happens if they lose in Federal courts as they most assuredly will? :confused:

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As long as it goes far enough (has standing yadayadayada) then
that would be with a judge issued ruling,
rather than the media or the internet concluding the merits or deficiencies of a case without knowing very much other than superficial matters.

And then subsequently, the battle can get defined better and improved - it is not futile effort always if an unsuccessful outcome.

[FrankRep]

What happens if they lose in Federal courts as they most assuredly will? :confused:

I don't trust the Court system. Nullification is the way to go.

[angelatc]

Couldn't agree more. Obama knows these lawsuits will go nowhere. That's why he said, "Bring it on."

Several parts of the FDR power grab were thrown out by SCOTUS. I don't see why we can't fight it on both fronts.

[angelatc]

Why not do both? The states have a good case against being forced to expand their medicaid rolls.

That said, it's easy to sit around and say "nullify". Does anyone have any idea how exactly that would work? This is going to be enforced by the IRS. Are states going to start sending in state troopers to shut down IRS offices? Short of that.....?

Exactly. Not to mention bank account seizures, property liens...the only thing they can't legitimately do is knock on your door without the Sheriff being there.

[tonesforjonesbones]

Nullification means they ignore the law. No need for lawsuits or legislation..they would simply ignore it. tones

[FrankRep]

Nullification means they ignore the law. No need for lawsuits or legislation..they would simply ignore it. tones
"Ignore" is the wrong term to use. You make it illegal in the State Constitution.

The Healthcare Freedom Act changes the State Constitution to make it illegal for the Federal Government to force you to buy healthcare.