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Rael
03-24-2010, 06:21 PM
Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist' as 14 states sue over healthcare reforms

By David Gardner


Americans who suggest Barack Obama should rot in hell are apparently deadly serious.

Nearly a quarter of Republicans believe the Democrat president 'may be the Antichrist', according to a survey.

An even greater number compared him to Hitler.
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Just another boys' club: Barack Obama, centre on the phone, is surrounded by male aides at the White House as they plot healthcare reform this week in a new image released today. The President has been compared to the Antichrist

Mr Obama was jubilant this week after securing his £626billion healthcare reform plan.

But his triumph seems only to have inflamed his critics among the evangelical Christians from America's heartland who kept George Bush in power for eight years and have demonised his successor.

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* 'This is a big f****** deal': Jubilant Joe Biden gaffes again as Obama signs historic healthcare reforms into law

More than half of the Republicans quizzed by Harris Poll, 57 per cent, believed the president was secretly Muslim, something he has consistently denied.

And 67 per cent of Republicans who responded believed Obama was a socialist, despite his central leanings.

The startling results came as lawyers representing 14 U.S. states filed lawsuits yesterday challenging an overhaul of the country's $2.5trillion healthcare system, minutes after President Barack Obama signed the landmark legislation.

One joint lawsuit by a dozen Republican attorneys general and a Democrat claims the sweeping reforms violate state-government rights in the U.S. Constitution and will force massive new spending on hard-pressed state governments.

Virginia went to court separately, while Missouri Republican Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder said he would like to join the suit.
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'A big f****** deal': Mr Biden (second left) gaffed as the president signed the historic healthcare reform bill

The joint suit, led by Florida, was filed with a federal court in Pensacola, according to the office of Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum.

In addition to McCollum, the Republican attorneys general from Alabama, Colorado, Idaho, Michigan, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah and Washington joined the suit.

The lawsuit says the law - which expands government health plans for the poor, imposes new taxes on the wealthy and requires insurers to cover people with pre-existing medical conditions - violates the Constitution's commerce clause by requiring nearly all Americans to buy health insurance.

Mr McCollum said: 'It forces people to do something - in the sense of buying a healthcare policy or paying a penalty, a tax or a fine - that simply the Constitution does not allow Congress to do.'

Mr McCollum, who is seeking the Republican nomination to run for Florida governor, said the healthcare reforms would add $1.6billion to Florida's spending on the Medicaid health program for the poor.

The Justice Department, which is responsible for defending U.S. law in court, pledged to vigorously fight any challenges to the new healthcare law.

'We are confident that this statute is constitutional and we will prevail,' said Justice spokesman Charles Miller.

The White House agreed the suits would fail.

'There have been hearings about the constitutionality of the law, and I think there's pretty much widespread agreement that it is constitutional,' Nancy-Ann DeParle, director of the White House Office of Health Reform, said.

'I think we have governors who might be aiming for higher office who are starting to just send a message.'

The suits were filed just moments after Mr Obama signed the healthcare reforms into law.

But on the most historic occasion of his presidency so far, vice-president Joe Biden managed to put his foot in it.

Gaffe-prone Mr Biden inadvertently broadcast the F-word to America after he introduced the President to sign his much vaunted health reform bill into law yesterday.

After hugging Mr Obama at a a ceremony in the White House, Mr Biden leaned in and whispered in the President's ear: 'This is a big f****** deal.'

The remark was caught on microphones recording the event that was shown live across the country. By last night, the clip was being replayed all over the internet.

White House aides seemed to be unembarrassed, with press secretary Robert Gibbs later tweeting: 'Yes, Mr Vice-President, you're right.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1260195/U-S-healthcare-reform-14-rebel-states-sue.html#ixzz0j8vx1lKQ

RM918
03-24-2010, 06:24 PM
Did they take this poll on a compound somewhere?

CasualApathy
03-24-2010, 06:50 PM
It's because of stuff like this that most europeans don't even bother with american politics. Too bad really.

Vessol
03-24-2010, 06:51 PM
I think the Republican party established years ago that it was the party of Retarded Fundamentalists, just like the Democrats established years ago they were Deranged Egalitarians.

dannno
03-24-2010, 06:52 PM
He might be :confused:

Anybody who claims he isn't is more presumptuous than those who claim he might be.

JenaS62
03-24-2010, 07:15 PM
I don't know about any of that anti-christ crap because I'm agnostic and I would assume that you would have to believe in the christ to believe in the anti-christ, but i do think that he is a very dangerous man who came out of nowhere, has ties to marxists and radicals and managed to get more than 50% of Americans to believe that he was the savior.

dannno
03-24-2010, 07:20 PM
I don't know about any of that anti-christ crap because I'm agnostic and I would assume that you would have to believe in the christ to believe in the anti-christ, but i do think that he is a very dangerous man who came out of nowhere, has ties to marxists and radicals and managed to get more than 50% of Americans to believe that he was the savior.

An agnostic, by nature, would agree with the statement that Obama could be the anti-Christ...

In fact, if they don't agree that Obama could be the anti-Christ, that would make them not completely agnostic.

CasualApathy
03-24-2010, 07:20 PM
Let's stick to this thing called reality.

Mini-Me
03-24-2010, 07:24 PM
An agnostic, by nature, would agree with the statement that Obama could be the anti-Christ...

In fact, if they don't agree that Obama could be the anti-Christ, that would make them not completely agnostic.

You can be agnostic about one question but not another. For instance, I'm agnostic regarding the existence of some form of God. I'm "atheist" regarding the specifics of Christian mythology, particularly the urban legend version of the singular "antichrist" that is only loosely inspired by the Bible. Similarly, I'm pretty convinced that some kind of "fantastic"-seeming creature probably exists, out of all of the possible fantastic creatures imaginable (think cryptozoology), but I don't specifically believe in invisible flying pink unicorns. :)

speciallyblend
03-24-2010, 07:24 PM
pretty sad, where were they when bush(jk) was in office! those poll numbers i saw,tell me the gop is pretty much screwed. i understand people disliking obama or bush but those poll numbers scare me! not to mention 80% of republican primary voters in texas need their heads examined!!

many in the gop are basically brain dead!! those poll numbers are sad and embarrassing!!!

almost half of republicans do not think obama is even american. pretty sad to me!!

pcosmar
03-24-2010, 07:24 PM
I honestly do not believe that. And we all know the Frank Lutz would never distort a poll. :rolleyes:

Now there may be a few deluded Christians that believe that. Certainly not a 1/4 of them and not all the GOP is Christian anyway.

This smells like a smear.
:(

Mini-Me
03-24-2010, 07:29 PM
I honestly do not believe that. And we all know the Frank Lutz would never distort a poll. :rolleyes:

Now there may be a few deluded Christians that believe that. Certainly not a 1/4 of them and not all the GOP is Christian anyway.

This smells like a smear.
:(

Hrm...on second thought, now that you bring up Frank Luntz, maybe I DO believe in an antichrist. ;)

Promontorium
03-24-2010, 07:31 PM
what the fuck do they think Bush and McCain are? What do any of those guys disagree on?

emazur
03-24-2010, 07:43 PM
what the fuck do they think Bush and McCain are?

YouTube - Jesus Camp Extract Praise Bush (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg)

speciallyblend
03-24-2010, 07:52 PM
YouTube - Jesus Camp Extract Praise Bush (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg)

i remember seeing that yrs ago. i vote that the creepiest video i have seen!!! spooookky! dig your avatar;)

Vessol
03-24-2010, 08:08 PM
I have one suggestion to the Republicans.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

YouTube - Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE)

MN Patriot
03-24-2010, 08:14 PM
Obama is a long legged Mack Daddy. Did the Bible mention that?

cpike
03-24-2010, 08:23 PM
Figuring how hated he is, of course he isn't the anti-christ. He'll be nearly universally loved. It's just as moronic as those who claimed bush was the anti-christ, and darn near every president before I'm sure.

pcosmar
03-24-2010, 08:28 PM
Figuring how hated he is, of course he isn't the anti-christ. He'll be nearly universally loved. It's just as moronic as those who claimed bush was the anti-christ, and darn near every president before I'm sure.

Yup,
I remember a few morons saying that Reagan was the Anti-Christ,
Even had some twisted numerology to show that his name made up 666 or some such silliness.

catdd
03-24-2010, 08:37 PM
The liberals claimed Regan was the anti Christ too. I remember seeing it spray painted on walls.

DapperDan
03-24-2010, 09:38 PM
We can all agree Obama is a

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x234/ctbob/douche.jpg


But not the anti-christ x.x

Stary Hickory
03-24-2010, 09:45 PM
A real Anti-Christ would be much more subtle about his authoritarian plans for our lives.

specsaregood
03-24-2010, 09:53 PM
i remember seeing that yrs ago. i vote that the creepiest video i have seen!!! spooookky! dig your avatar;)

I'm pretty sure this gif is taken from that movie too.
http://72.73.236.82/photos/raptorjesus.gif

Aratus
03-25-2010, 08:37 AM
IMOHO aren't all the OPINION poll results contingent on how YOU word the question???
like if you poll ALL registered Democrats and ask them in pure "Hobbes Leviathan" terms
if the leadership of the G.O.P is the "belly of the beast" you'd find half of them agreeing?