OFFICIAL THREAD - CNBC.com 2008 Debates at 4 pm ET

[ghemminger]

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/Video/CNBC_Live/player/live_video_ymyv.html

To watch on CNBC.com you have to purchase CNBC Plus for $9.95 per month

Alt Stream - bit choppy - no sound:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/e-show

Listen to it Live:

www.RonPaulRadio.com

CNBC.com | 09 Oct 2007 | 10:52 AM ET Font size: Taxes ... Trade ... Jobs ... Social Security ... there's no shortage of economic issues facing whoever would be the next President of the United States.

So where do the candidates stand?

Tonight, voters will get a glimpse into the money mechanics contemplated by the Republican contenders. Candidates will be quizzed on where they stand on economic issues ranging from government spending to energy policy to world trade regulation.


CNBC, along with MSNBC and The Wall Street Journal, are jointly sponsoring tonight's debate. The two-hour event will be broadcast live on CNBC and streamed on CNBC.com at 4 pm ET and re-broadcast on MSNBC at 9 pm ET.

© 2007 CNBC.com

[DjLoTi]

All eyes on Thompson, which is great. I think he's going to flop. Ron should come out strong in this 2-hour debate.

[ghemminger]

Listen to it LIVE via this link:

www.RonPaulRadio.com

[ross11988]

How long will the debate last? 2 hours? The Longer the better.

[ItsTime]

This will be another MSM debate where there is no equality of time. I love the smaller lesser known debates the best. I think the one on PBS was the best conducted one yet.

[paulitics]

the pbs was the best by far, I agree.

[Lois]

Sorry, I'm confused...

Is this debate at 4:00 ET? What is the best link to watch it online?

Thanks.

[ghemminger]

Sorry, I'm confused...

Is this debate at 4:00 ET? What is the best link to watch it online?

Thanks.

www.RonPaulRadio.com

[Mortikhi]

wth is starts at 3pm cst? Dont these asshatters know people work for a living?!

[lbrtylvr]

wth is starts at 3pm cst? Dont these asshatters know people work for a living?!

its early so ol' Fred can still get to the early bird special at Dennys.

[kylejack]

wth is starts at 3pm cst? Dont these asshatters know people work for a living?!

That's why they replay it at 9 PM ET on MSNBC.

[jumpyg1258]

Luckily I am getting off work early which will allow me to watch it at 4 today, woohoo! =P

[ghemminger]

wth is starts at 3pm cst? Dont these asshatters know people work for a living?!

It looks like this first Economic Debate didn't get much traction with management - hence the coverage...it's worse for me..1:00pm Pacific??? Give me a break!

[ghemminger]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/09/politics/main3347566.shtml

CBS/AP) Tuesday's Republican debate in Dearborn is supposed to focus on Michigan and its troubled economy, but it's likely to be used by the nine candidates to push their own ideas for economic growth.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's campaign already is criticizing Rudy Giuliani and his economic record while mayor of New York City. Giuliani's campaign is promoting his accomplishments as a tax-cutter and fiscal conservative.

The two-hour debate at the Ford Community & Performing Arts Center will be the first for Fred Thompson, the actor and former Tennessee senator who got into the race last month, and the first since campaign finance records showed Texas Rep. Ron Paul collected nearly as much money in the third quarter as Arizona Sen. John McCain, boosting Paul's credibility.

[Lois]

Yes, they must have a reason for having this debate so early, so nobody will be able to watch it. I guess it's because they don't expect Fred to do so well, and they do expect Ron to win, like usual.

[misconstrued]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15837856

I don't see anywhere where it says it will be online on this page? Will it be free online or will we need a CNBC Plus subscription? Anyone know?

[ghemminger]

I don't see anywhere where it says it will be online on this page? Will it be free online or will we need a CNBC Plus subscription? Anyone know?

You have to have CNBC Plus to watch $9.95 mer month

[pdavis]

Yes, they must have a reason for having this debate so early, so nobody will be able to watch it. I guess it's because they don't expect Fred to do so well, and they do expect Ron to win, like usual.

The debate re-airs at 9pm ET on MSNBC.

[ghemminger]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3707182&page=1

Just in time for Fred Thompson to enter (stage right), here's a handy cheat sheet for him, in case he's been too busy chillin' with George Allen, Liz Cheney, and Spencer Abraham to bone up on the gang he's sharing the spotlight with this afternoon:

Rudy Giuliani will be the guy who speaks too fast (though no longer too loose). Likes to talk about: 9/11, tax cuts, the Yankees (though maybe not so much today), Hillary Clinton. Doesn't like to talk about: abortion, gun control, lightning, James Dobson.

Full Coverage
VOTE 2008: Who is Your Match?Mitt Romney will be the guy with the million-dollar smile (and multi-million-dollar wallet). Likes to talk about: the Olympics, tax cuts, his hair, abortion (now). Doesn't like to talk about: abortion (circa 1994 and 2002), religion (his own), car trips with pets.

John McCain is the guy who looks like John McCain. Likes to talk about: drunken sailors, the "Straight Talk Express," "my friends." Doesn't like to talk about: immigration, fund-raising, polls, George W. Bush.

Mike Huckabee is the funny one -- laugh at his jokes. Ron Paul will say something about the Framers -- probably best to condemn it. Sam Brownback is the religious one -- nod approvingly when he speaks. Tom Tancredo will link immigration to a question about the nuclear non-proliferation -- agree with him, though not too vigorously. Duncan Hunter is also a candidate for president. No, we're serious, he is.


i don't understand that quote re:Paul?

[Ninja Homer]

Wow, it's a 2-hour debate followed by 2 hours of commentary.

I recommend people go to the chat room here or at ronpaulradio.com to discuss it when it starts. It sucks when the forum crashes.

[ghemminger]

http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2007/10/09/Government/08.Race.Coming.To.u-3020584.shtml

NOW this is what I"M talking about - A Michigan Publication with Ron Paul in the Headline - Come on MSM Media - your missing the BOAT!

The race for the Republican nomination for president is coming to the University of Michigan today.

At 4 p.m., GOP candidates will debate in Dearborn at a forum sponsored in part by the University's Dearborn campus.

Republican candidate Ron Paul, a Texas congressman, plans to come to Ann Arbor to deliver a speech from the steps of the Graduate Library at 7:30 p.m.

Rob Johnson, chair of the University's chapter of Students for Ron Paul for President, said his group only had a week to prepare for the visit, but they've been promoting the event since then.

Paul, a libertarian Republican, is a longshot to win the Republican nomination. But he has generated intense interest and support from across the political spectrum. He's lured supporters from the left with strong opposition to the war in Iraq and an activist foreign policy. He's lured supporters from the right with strident opposition to tax hikes, abortion rights and many federal government programs.

Abdullateef Muhiuddin, the University of Michigan at Dearborn student government president, said his group is helping to organize a live broadcast of pre- and post-debate activity on the Dearborn campus on radio station WWJ throughout the day.

The Dearborn student government also invited candidates to come talk to students before the debate.

Terry Gallagher, a spokesman for the University's Dearborn campus, said the University is working with the Michigan Republican Party and the city of Dearborn to work out the logistics of transportation, facilities and broadcasting.

Michigan will likely see more attention from the Republican presidential candidates over the next few months. Gov. Jennifer Granholm signed a bill last month to hold a state primary on Jan. 15, one of the earliest dates in the country.

Democrats, meanwhile, have vowed to stay away from Michigan. The Democratic National Committee has threatened to strip the state of its convention delegates because it broke party rules by scheduling its primary before Feb. 5.

Six of the Republican candidates spoke at the Mackinac Republican Leadership Conference last month. The last time the Democrats descended on Michigan en masse was in July, when nine candidates spoke at a forum in Detroit sponsored by the NAACP.

Chris Irvine, chair of the University's chapter of the College Republicans, said he thinks the eventual GOP nominee will have a better chance of winning Michigan in the general election because of the attention from the candidates.

"The Republicans do seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on Michigan," he said. "The economy is definitely a factor a lot of people in Michigan are going to be curious about."

But Sam Harper, the chair of the University's chapter of the College Democrats, said he isn't concerned about the debate drawing focus from the Democratic candidates.

He said the College Democrats have been working to promote the Democratic Party by hosting a student debate last week. He also mentioned that the College Democrats are in the process of planning an event - which would take place Nov. 5 on the Diag - to kick off the year-long countdown until the presidential election.

[Tom29]

I don't see anywhere where it says it will be online on this page? Will it be free online or will we need a CNBC Plus subscription? Anyone know?

I phoned CNBC to ask (from the Netherlands). The only thing she could say was:
"It is as it says on the website". No hello or goodbye. VERY RUDE. :eek:

[Danny Molina]

My DVR shows that the debate will air at 6:00PM PST.

weird...

[M.Bellmore]

I hope they don't call Romney "Michigan's favorite son" *gag*

[ronpaulhawaii]

Wow, it's a 2-hour debate followed by 2 hours of commentary.

I recommend people go to the chat room here or at ronpaulradio.com to discuss it when it starts. It sucks when the forum crashes.


second that

[Karsten]

My DVR shows that the debate will air at 6:00PM PST.

weird...

If you're on the west coast, it will start at 1 PM on CNBC, and be REAPEATED at 6PM on MSNBC. You're probably looking at the msnbc repeat.

[Danny Molina]

If you're on the west coast, it will start at 1 PM on CNBC, and be REAPEATED at 6PM on MSNBC. You're probably looking at the msnbc repeat.

Thanks a bumch I was looking at the repeat on MSNBC. Now i gotta call me brother and have it set to record.

[Starks]

Important live poll!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/21205268

[Bradley in DC]

interviewing supporters outside now

[richard1984]

Watch it LIVE via this link:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15837856

Are we sure this is the link to stream the debate?
I don't see a media player on the page right now. Will the box below the orange bar that says "CNBC US TELEVISION" be where the video plays?
Anybody know for sure?

[ghemminger]

Are we sure this is the link to stream the debate?
I don't see a media player on the page right now. Will the box below the orange bar that says "CNBC US TELEVISION" be where the video plays?
Anybody know for sure?

You have to have CNBC Plus $9.95 per month

Listen LIVE at www.RonPaulRadio.com

[frasu]

It is so frustrating... There is no mentioning of Ron Paul on the today's MSNBC discussions... Even more, all the guests/financial specialists give the impresion that everybody is for small government and low spending, and that there are just a few differences between them. MOST qualified: apparently Mitt Romney...:mad:

This is bs... RP is invisible

:mad:

[richard1984]

You have to have CNBC Plus $9.95 per month

Listen LIVE at www.RonPaulRadio.com

Awwww...fuck that!!! :mad:

Oh well...yeah. I'll be listening to RonPaulRadio. I just wanted to watch it, too. :(

[misconstrued]

CNBC has a 7 day free trial! Just join, watch the debate and then cancel :)

[richard1984]

CNBC has a 7 day free trial! Just join, watch the debate and then cancel :)

Bless you! :D

(I hope they don't get pissed off about the number of people doing that, though. ;))

[ghemminger]

Bless you! :D

(I hope they don't get pissed off about the number of people doing that, though. ;))

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/e-show

[richard1984]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/e-show

Thank you!!! I love you!!! :D
Wait...is this just the video of CNBC (not the sound, too)? Interesting....
If so, that's cool. RonPaulRadio's where it's at anyway.

I didn't think about having to give CNBC credit card information for that 7 day trial right off. I don't want to do that.

[TheEvilDetector]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/21149087

[misconstrued]

I signed up for the CNBC trial. The stream is top-notch. I'm listening to Ron Paul Radio right now til the debate starts :)

[shadowhooch]

Can someone give an unbiased play by play when it starts?
They won't allow streaming at work.:(

[georgia_tech_swagger]

That stream from CNBC is Windows 2000+ and MSIE6+.

And they mean it.

Couldn't get it working in Linux or OS X even using User Agent Switcher in Firefox.

[NoxTwilight]

Looks like MSNBC will also be streaming it but I haven't gotten it to start yet.

[richard1984]

I signed up for the CNBC trial. The stream is top-notch. I'm listening to Ron Paul Radio right now til the debate starts :)

Did you sign up for the "Monthly Subscription: $9.95" with the free 7 day trial?
(just asking to make sure it doesn't automatically charge me for a month before the 7 day trial is up)

[BrianH]

CNBC has a 7 day free trial! Just join, watch the debate and then cancel :)

They don't work with MACS! Can't believe it, I just signed up....CORRECTION - yes they do!

[georgia_tech_swagger]

They don't work with MACS! Can't believe it, I just signed up

It's a friggin DRM ActiveX player

[TheEvilDetector]

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/Video/CNBC_Live/player/live_video_ymyv.html

[richard1984]

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/Video/CNBC_Live/player/live_video_ymyv.html

Oh cool!!!! That works!!!! :D :D

Where did you find this link?

[nullvalu]

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/Video/CNBC_Live/player/live_video_ymyv.html

safuckingweeett! thx

[JAHOGS]

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/Video/CNBC_Live/player/live_video_ymyv.html

Now where talking

[McDermit]

score

[BrianH]

That stream from CNBC is Windows 2000+ and MSIE6+.

And they mean it.

Couldn't get it working in Linux or OS X even using User Agent Switcher in Firefox.

works on MAC OSX for me with Windows Media Player

[BrianH]

I hope it gets said that fmr President of Mexico Vincente Fox confirmed on CNN last night that plans for the AMERO are official - and planned long term. The first ever official endorsement of what has until now been dismissed as a conspiracy theory. SEE: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58052

I hope Ron Paul gets to highlight this news breakthrough. CNN have removed this part of the interview from their video archive, but it's on the transcript

[McDermit]

Go Rp

[jorger]

did mccain just say, "I suggest ron to read wealth of nations"?

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Great first answer.


Then McCain follows him:

"uh.... everyone pays taxes."

[Syren123]

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/Video/CNBC_Live/player/live_video_ymyv.html

Dude you RULE. Thanks! This works great.

[BrianH]

Go Rp

Wow- that speech had my heart pumping!! The early question - was it #3? and Ron's answer -wow just amazing. Huckabee getting rid of the IRS?? Huh?

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Wow- that speech had my heart pumping!! The early question - was it #3? and Ron's answer -wow just amazing. Huckabee getting rid of the IRS?? Huh?

Insnt this what they called Ron a kook for? Now they all endorse it?

[KewlRonduderules]

Dang you beat me to it!!! I have never seen Dr. Paul so confident. He blew that question away. WOW!!!

[pazzo83]

did mccain just say, "I suggest ron to read wealth of nations"?

Hahah yea, wtf.

[honkywill]

Duncan hunter took a good swipe at Thompson right thur.

[Syren123]

You have GOT to hand it to Hunter - called out all the fools who voted for MFN status for China.

Fred is an idiot! Free trade - as if we have that.

[honkywill]

nobody applauded Thompson.

[Harry96]

Geez Louise, have you ever seen bigger bags under someone's eyes than the ones under Thompson's?

[rjl]

Man, Thompson sounds like he's ready to keel over right there on stage.

[Syren123]

Hahah yea, wtf.

Giving Ron a reading assignment! Nice try.

[BrianH]

Giving Ron a reading assignment! Nice try.

Yes interesting that Mccain chose Ron as a target. Notice Ron almost never addresses other candidates by name and just stick to the issues

[Syren123]

Shooting yourself in the foot there, Tom. Don't talk about cutting SS or Medicare and INCREASING military spending!

[jorger]

Giving Ron a reading assignment! Nice try.

yeah it looked liked the scene from good will hunting. RP should have been able to respond and then say, "how you like them apples"

[BrianH]

Guilliani hasn't mentioned 9-11 yet! Is he learning?

[richard1984]

Did Matthews just say "Your Honor, first" referring to Giuliani?! :confused:

[kylejack]

Thompson is crashing and burning. Dude looks sick. (Doesn't he have cancer or something?)

[kylejack]

Did Matthews just say "Your Honor, first" referring to Giuliani?! :confused:

Well, he is a Knight Commander of the British Empire.

[McDermit]

Did Matthews just say "Your Honor, first" referring to Giuliani?! :confused:
Sounded like it. Wtf? lol

[rjl]

Rudy is a strict constructionist! Oh man this is such crap!

[pazzo83]

I don't like Giuliani, but he is cracking me up right now.

[Syren123]

Fred is a globalist...spewing the corporatist bs.

[richard1984]

Sounded like Romney kept trying to sing "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" (instead of "line-item veto") :rolleyes:

[Syren123]

I don't like Giuliani, but he is cracking me up right now. I agree! Personally I find him reprehensible, but I never mind listening to him...he's a good speaker. Unlike listening to Bush when I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard for an hour.

[Gilby]

Mccain is right, we are in the middle of a revolution. The Ron Paul Revolution!

[Delivered4000]

Where can i find a stream where 2 people are not talking

[Omnis]

McCain is terrible. Gosh! He just contradicted himself.

Ron Paul is getting like zero time, though. Wtf.


WTF, they just went to Romney on two rounds and skipped RP and Huckabee altogether.

[BrianH]

Mccain is trying to sound hip. 50,000 earn a living off e-bay. yeah right - selling their stuff they can't keep up their payments on!

[tcmaroc]

looks like they forgot about Ron Paul

[BrianH]

Where can i find a stream where 2 people are not talking
do you have 2 CNBC windows open and getting an echo? If so close a window

[richard1984]

So much talk about "government fixing the problem."
Obviously, the government sucks.
(see the last quote in my signature)

[Syren123]

Tell us about your business experience, Mitt, with the Carlyle Group...tell us about how you guys bought businesses, cut them up, sold them off and laid off thousands of people.

[richard1984]

looks like they forgot about Ron Paul

they asked him a question early to pacify us...but now they're gonna try to avoid/ignore him for as long as possible.

[mannycp]

wtf!111111! ask RON PAUL SOMETHING

[IRO-bot]

WTF? For me Michigan is personal? Romney is a loser!

[BrianH]

Good job Ron Paul got one great speech in early on. He put enough serious hooks in there that there should be some follow up. Mentioning the billionaires should make romney uncomfortable!

[Badger4Paul]

Ron should quote the wealth of nations if he can in another response, im sure he has some memorized

[Syren123]

Rudy's is the longest 30 second answer in history.

[richard1984]

I hate Giuliani's voice....

[Mattsa]

What a bloody joke

It's the Guiliani and Romney show. The moderator is useless

[JayDee]

Rudy: "Our country depends on exports"

Mercantile system does, not a free market.

[IRO-bot]

Woah did that chick just yell at Ron Paul?

[mannycp]

who is that lady?

[richard1984]

...what just happened?

Dr. Paul got a sentence in. I didn't catch the question, though.

[Areign]

I agree, he got like, 30 seconds before that jackass cut in.

[MadEmperor]

What the !!!!!!!!

Rudy and Mitt have had 3/4 of the talk time. Why have the rest even come???

[scubasteve01]

And positioned on the end. ..... how typical.

[Joey Wahoo]

I just tuned in. Have I missed anything?

[rjl]

who is that lady?


That's the "Money Honey".

[IRO-bot]

shut up ROMNEY!!!

[Gilby]

...what just happened?

Dr. Paul got a sentence in. I didn't catch the question, though.
A question going down the line... Ron Paul answered, everyone else is ignoring it.

[Syren123]

The US can compete with slave labor? Wow. Mitt knows a lot.

[Syren123]

Woah did that chick just yell at Ron Paul?

Yeah...what was up with that.
She was on Bill Maher last week.

[ross11988]

I just tuned in. Have I missed anything?

only a waste of my afternoon

[Lord Xar]

The question needs to be asked.. WHY THE CAMPAIGN ALLOWS THIS TO HAPPEN. Why they allowed him to be at the END... and why they do NOT go up during commercial breaks to say something. If I was there, I'd be talking to someone right now saying that this is unacceptable. I would of ALSO NOT had him at the end......

Personally, he is getting shafted and they are allowing it to happen.

[IRO-bot]

Yeah...what was up with that.
She was on Bill Maher last week.

Yeah, that was messed up. Damn Ron is getting shut out big time. He has way more money and he is on the END??? WTF???

[ClayTrainor]

this proves that the media is really trying to hide ron paul

[jumpyg1258]

Did you actually think they would put him somewhere near the middle? HAHAHAHA This is the MSM, of course they are going to put him on the end.

[Primbs]

Maybe Ron Paul is going to have to interupt Romney and Rudy the way they did with him.

[Syren123]

The question needs to be asked.. WHY THE CAMPAIGN ALLOWS THIS TO HAPPEN. Why they allowed him to be at the END... and why they do NOT go up during commercial breaks to say something. If I was there, I'd be talking to someone right now saying that this is unacceptable. I would of ALSO NOT had him at the end......

Personally, he is getting shafted and they are allowing it to happen.

I don't think there's anything they can do about it. The candidates are invited to participate...and after that, their input is zero.

[TheIndependent]

What. the. hell.

[Brendan Wenzel]

what about the government not being involved in free trade?? No one even mentioned this.

[Spirit of '76]

Is there an actual free stream of the debate -- audio or video -- somewhere?

I'm not talking about two people doing commentary or something that requires a CNBC subscription, just a free stream of the candidates themselves answering questions.

Anyone?

[wfd40]

Ron not stepping up and taking on these dolts totally deflates the energy of his base. WTF is he doing up there??

=/

[Syren123]

what about the government not being involved in free trade?? No one even mentioned this.

LOL! Because they have no grasp of real economics...just manipulated corporatist economies.

[IRO-bot]

This is horrible.

[Tratzman]

I'm at work watching your posts and it seems as if RP isn't getting any air time. Wow, that's a big surprise!!

Once again, this will backfire on the MSM and make us work even harder to get the message out.

Chad

[Mattsa]

The question needs to be asked.. WHY THE CAMPAIGN ALLOWS THIS TO HAPPEN. Why they allowed him to be at the END... and why they do NOT go up during commercial breaks to say something. If I was there, I'd be talking to someone right now saying that this is unacceptable. I would of ALSO NOT had him at the end......

Personally, he is getting shafted and they are allowing it to happen.

It was expected though.

They've gotta keep the lid on RP's support

The internet is the only way to grow the movement

[Lois]

You can see the live stream at MSNBC.com

[jumpyg1258]

Wow you can really tell the crowd there is a bunch of neocons. Doubt the public was given free tickets like they were for the PBS debate in Baltimore.

[mannycp]

what was the last thing ron paul answerd or said??????

[jorger]

this is going to get good now =), Matthews wants the Constitutional answer

[Syren123]

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/Video/CNBC_Live/player/live_video_ymyv.html

What a bunch of ill-informed warhawks. Sam is completely wrong, Fred is an idiot, John McCain is a liar, Mitt has no idea what our foreign policy is or what to do and is now spouting about Ahmadinejad and is showing his gaping hole of ignorance. Hunter...unreal. Preemptive war.

I have to say...Chris Matthews is doing surprisingly well this time.

[Joey Wahoo]

RP missed a great opportunity. McCain just said that he's the only man on the stage who said the Iraq policy was a failed policy four years ago. RP spoke next, but didn't correct McCain, by noting that not only did HE object to the policy 4 years ago, he is the ONLY man on stage who voted against it beforehand.

[ross11988]

Holy Shi*********************************************** **********8

[manuel]

Take them down Ron!!!!!

[McDermit]

Omg> Go Rp!!!!

And Fuck Whoever Laughed At Him.

[mannycp]

Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[krott5333]

RP is pissed

[grapplerkepp]

Go Ron!!!

[Primbs]

Ron Paul scored some points on the constitution and war.

[bbachtung]

Consult the lawyers!?! Way to attack Mitt, Ron. Huckabee wants to be a dictator.

[Syren123]

Huckabee is blowing it.

[IRO-bot]

These people are fucking traitors. What the hell has happened to America?

[ross11988]

Nice applause at the end btw

[bbachtung]

No, you take your oath to defend the Constitution, McCain.

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Yea, great response.

As great as Dr. Paul's answers are, I can't help but feel a lot of the other guys are doing fantastic jobs of playing on peoples fears and emotions.

[bbachtung]

The War Powers Act is unconstitutional, Fred.

[manuel]

Tell Huckabee that war is not a political game. Therefore, the President never has the right to bomb anyone he doesn't like.

[bbachtung]

The September 11 response.

[McDermit]

My god, Rudy's a fucking moron.

[Chelle]

the ghoul lasted 1 hour until he pulled the 911 card....Christ
:eek:

[mannycp]

there goes 9/11 Guliani, sep 11. 9/11, 9/11, 9/11

[bbachtung]

September 11, September 11, September 11.

[manuel]

Ron Paul vs. all of them!!!!

I love this!

[Syren123]

My god, Rudy's a fucking moron.

As are the sheep who applaud him.

[deedles]

cannot stand benito
911

911

911

911

[Hope]

Rudy just said 9/11 was organized in Iraq.


WTF.

[richard1984]

Isn't this supposed to be about the economy?

[bbachtung]

And Afghanistan.

[Hope]

They're giving Rudy and Romney so much more time than everyone else. :(

[fightfortruth]

Ron Paul absolutely rocked the "do you need approval of congress to go to war with Iran?" question.


All of these other candidates cound like neocons.


I absolutely hate Guiliani for trying to call out Ron Paul. It was a back handed comment. He always uses Sept. 11 as an excuse for everything, always!!!!


what does everyone else think?

[bbachtung]

"Iran would be much more of a 'paper tiger' if we were energy independent." -- Rudy

So, which is it Rudy, oil or nuclear weapons?

[McDermit]

Putting a man on the moon is a matter of national security?

[barcop]

Holy sh#t

Ghouls just said we might not have gone to war in Iraq if it wasn't for oil????

Did he seriously just slip up and admit that????

[Joey Wahoo]

Did y'all catch that Huckabee responded that the president can attack another country even if Congress says NO??

I hope someone makes him pay for that answer.

[bbachtung]

Rudy wants us to follow France's lead . . . on nuclear power.

[jumpyg1258]

If Mr. 9/11 was smart like me, he woulda answered Pearl Harbor as I was thinking and not 9/11 as a quick attack.

[Primbs]

We need a debate with just Ron Paul and Rudy.

[JayDee]

The other candidates are acknowledging Paul, we are in the "and then they fight you." stage.

[BrianH]

Rudy just said 9/11 was organized in Iraq.


WTF.
No he said Afghanistan and Pakistan and we might have prevented it by an attack there!

[JAHOGS]

Holy sh#t

Ghouls just said we might not have gone to war in Iraq if it wasn't for oil????

Did he seriously just slip up and admit that????

I was thinking the same thing. I think he stepped in it and then didn't realize what he was saying. What a DA

[Badger Paul]

Shakespear once wrote kill all the lawyers, Romney wants to consult all the lawyers.

Awwk 9-11! AAWWK 9-11! AAWK 9-11

Is that a parrot on Gulianis's sholulder?

[Ron Paul Fan]

Mitt Romney: Consult lawyers, not the Congress and the Constitution. :confused:

Ducan Hunter: Preemptive strike on Iran :mad:

Rudy Giuliani: Radical isamists attacked us on September 11th. Where were you on September 11th Congressman Paul? :rolleyes:

Mike Huckabee: Congress says no, attack anyway! :eek:

Ron Paul: Read the Constituion once in a while! :D

[avix123]

Paul nailed it on the head with the, "it was a group of 19 thugs, not a country that attacked us."

Stupilani reponded, "They were planned in Afghanistan and Pakistan." Freaking idiot, explain what Iraq had to do with it, or Iran.

[bbachtung]

Brownback thinks that electricity doesn't require the use of energy produced by gas.

[nsellers]

Well...RP got a good round of hands afterwards. Was there any clapping of the other candidates who had the opposite answer of RP?:rolleyes:

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Fred Thompson is looking really bad in this debate.

[honkywill]

Rudy just said 9/11 was organized in Iraq.


WTF.

It probably stems from his absolute lack of knowledge of anything other than capitalizing on tragedy for his personal benefit.

[RonFan1776]

Climate Change Card!

[fightfortruth]

I just tuned in ten minutes ago. They typically put Ron Paul at the end.

Ron Paul rocked the past few questions. Guilliani was trying to call Ron Paul out like a snake. He uses 9/11 as an excuse or talking point for everything. I can't stand him.

[Joey Wahoo]

It was a great answer. Huckabee said the President can attack even if Congress says NO. Thats just incredible, even for a neocon.

[Brendan Wenzel]

This is a Republican debate right??

[angelatc]

I am just aghast that almost every man up there thinks it is ok for the President to use the military to wage war without the approval of Congress.

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Putting a man on the moon is a matter of national security?

Defense against the Cylons. Battlestar Galactica season 4 starts in January, so the Colonial Fleet should be arriving at Earth sometime next year, with the Cylons hot on their tail. We need a Moon Defense Base.

[McDermit]

one thing and one thing oil. lol

[Brendan Wenzel]

They all have these plans on how government can help. I don't understand.

[MGS]

Hold on, i musta missed, when did someone yell at RP? was it the host?

[manuel]

Fred Thompson is looking really bad in this debate.

Who is Fred Thompson?

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

They all sound like socialists to me.

[Ron Paul Fan]

McCain and Thompson were ok in this question. Hunter wants a preemptive strike on Iran, Huckabee would attack even if Congress says no, Mitt needs lawyers to read the Constitution for him, Rudy brought up 9/11, and Ron Paul won the argument by telling them to read the Constitution once in a while!

[mannycp]

terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist,

[me3]

lmao, Huckabee just said Goober and Gomer. I think he was referring to himself and Brownback.

[RP08]

Ron Paul needs to calm down and look a little more professional/presidential.

I love his intense passion, being a staunch supporter myself, but this might grind the nerves of the average hyper-sensitive American.

Edit: eh... I take that back. He just needs to be himself. That's why we love him. He is getting pretty excited and serious though :)

[Hope]

Ron Paul needs to calm down and look a little more professional/presidential.

I love his intense passion, being a staunch supporter myself, but this might grind the nerves of the average hyper-sensitive American.

/agree

[Brendan Wenzel]

What is about Thompson that is so exciting??? I dont see any positive qualities in this guy.

[mannycp]

Ron Paul needs to calm down and look a little more professional/presidential.

I love his intense passion, being a staunch supporter myself, but this might grind the nerves of the average hyper-sensitive American.

ron paul has only answered two questions. what do you mean calm down

[Badger Paul]

Attention! Attention people! Gov. Huckabee says we are in a race for our lives so every do their part to pay your taxes to subsidize ethanol.

[aravoth]

This is complete crap.

[manuel]

These guys aren't conservative at all.

[Joey Wahoo]

Romney's answer was incredible. Q: Can the President attack another country without approval of Congress? Mitt: That would be for the lawyers to decide.

Are you kidding me? Could anyone seriously consider voting for this fool.

[RonFan1776]

Thompson? Exciting?

....

"Business people come together to decide" ... you mean collude to make craploads of money, Mr. Romney?

[fightfortruth]

They let Fred Thompson talk for 2 or 3 minutes but Ron Paul gets 30 seconds. I can't stand this. They are not giving Ron Paul a fair deal.


Oh, and about What guilliani said about 9/11. That was not an immediat attck. We have never had an immediate attack. He is the best spin doctor I have ever seen, it's disgusting.

[jorger]

ohh come on, ask RP if the free market should decide... they went to romney, then changed the question.

i think gholiani almost had a heart attack, almost an hour without mentioning 9/11

[Razmear]

Ron Paul needs to calm down and look a little more professional/presidential.

I love his intense passion, being a staunch supporter myself, but this might grind the nerves of the average hyper-sensitive American.

Edit: eh... I take that back. He just needs to be himself. That's why we love him. He is getting pretty excited and serious though :)

I think he gets cranky after having to stand there for an hour not speaking and listening to these twits.

[angelatc]

When you people cancel your free subscriptions, be sure to tell them that it is because they did not give paul enough time in the debate.

[grapplerkepp]

Is it jusy my TV doing that?

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

With 9/10 of the Republican candidates talking crazy like this, I think its time to start looking for a house in Switzerland.

[nsellers]

Well...RP got a good round of hands afterwards. Was there any clapping of the other candidates who had the opposite answer of RP?:rolleyes:

[michaelwise]

I think we should just turn off CNBC and sink their ratings. I'll Youtube all Ron Paul moments and post only them shortly after the debate. Let the go back to their 1/4 million viewership rating.

[Give me liberty]

what a staged debate -.-

do they take me for a fool?
i always believe that most debates are always staged, and that even go's for the polls.

[Hope]

what a staged debate -.-

You said it.

[angelatc]

I think he gets cranky after having to stand there for an hour not speaking and listening to these twits.

I think he was just aghast that not getting an approval from Congress is even a debateable option.

Did these guys take 7th grade history?

[ClayTrainor]

hes barely getting to speak at all, this is stupid

[manuel]

How would you do it Gov. Romney?
"By lying to them"

[McDermit]

romney's delusional

[Hope]

How would you do it Gov. Romney?
"By lying to them"

LOL!

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Ha. Thompson just said we are bankrupting America for the future generations. So if Paul says it, he is a kook fringe, but if Thompson says it, it is the truth?

[angelatc]

So if we own the Middle East, we can sell oil to China and India?

[Johncjackson]

I really think the time has come to stop letting Ghouliani get away with the '9/11" bs answer for everything. Someone has to call him out. I know RP isn't one for attacks, but I think at some point someone has to. I would hope that there are at least some Republicans who disagree with Rudy or at the very least disagree with the way he has used the blood of 9/11 to further his own personal and political ambitions. It's time to lay him out.

He's getting too much mileage out of it, and it's just something no one will touch, I guess out of fear of offending someone. But IMHO, Rudy's use of 9/11 is a lot more offensive than anything else.

[jorger]

gholiani said he wants to give people freedom.
i think he made me barf inside my own mouth.

[RP08]

Ha. Thompson just said we are bankrupting America for the future generations. So if Paul says it, he is a kook fringe, but if Thompson says it, it is the truth?

He's not foaming at the mouth, climbing over his podium while saying it though.

LOL


.

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

"This place rocks"

[Tidewise]

I was claiming we needed to contact CNBC BEFORE the debate to demand more time for RP, but I got shot down.

[BrianH]

So if we own the Middle East, we can sell oil to China and India?

ABSOLUTELY. Read the PNAC manifesto - this was planned long ago

[Hope]

"This place rocks! That's it, right? That's what the kids are saying these days?"

[Brendan Wenzel]

being optimistic on a huge problem is fine, but not discussing how to fix it does nothing.

[AlexAmore]

Did anyone else get a sort of black out-glitch when Ron Paul began to respond with the 30 second question? It finally stopped glitching when Mitt Romney was speaking.

[Hope]

I really have a lot of respect for Tancredo.

[Buggan]

Very nice by Tancredo just now.

[Vvick727]

GAH, MSNBC stopped giving sound!

NOO

[Trassin]

How has RP been doing? I just got home from handing out Tax free Tips flyers

[Razmear]

"This place rocks"

1/3 of the global military spending occurs in the US, and this is why "we rock"?

Putz.

[terlinguatx]

...

[ronpaulfan]

They put him there so he gets no chance to think whenever there is a "down-the-line" question.

[bbachtung]

Ah, yes, Huey Long . . . er, Huckabee the populist emerges again . . .

[constituent]

You know you were thinking, so was I. So I'm asking, where the hell is alan keyes?

[RP08]

Did they stick RP next to Hucky purposely hoping for a dog fight?

[RobotJaxxon]

Huckabee, tell me what the truth is! Tell me what the reality is! Yay Huckabee's reality and truth!

[Danny Molina]

Ron needs to attack Guiliani because he can't let him walk all over him like he does.

[Ron Paul Fan]

He was barred from coming. Why? I don't know.

[McDermit]

Score one for cutting Romney off!

[Trassin]

How Is Rp Doing!

[theseus51]

Not invited. I think he declared his candidacy after they sent out the invitation for this debate a few weeks ago.

[terlinguatx]

...

[Lord Xar]

Did anyone else get a sort of black out-glitch when Ron Paul began to respond with the 30 second question? It finally stopped glitching when Mitt Romney was speaking.

I think this is important... did ANYBODY ELSE get this glitch - and mention where you are from..

[Brendan Wenzel]

Did they stick RP next to Hucky purposely hoping for a dog fight?

Hucky doesn't want any more of RP. He is smart enough not to challenge the real thing twice.

[Hope]

Mitt: "Let me tell you a story real quick!"
Host: "No, we don't have time. Moving on."


FTW!

[Ron Paul Fan]

Because he's a kook and a fringe candidate.

[plopolp]

How has RP been doing? I just got home from handing out Tax free Tips flyers
He's been fantastic!
Both seconds that he has been allowed to speak...

[Danny Molina]

Because he's a dirty liberal who can't stand toe to toe with islamofacists.

[Brendan Wenzel]

How Is Rp Doing!

He is doing alright. He looks a little aggravated, but overall he is talking facts again, so lets see how this finishes.

[frasu]

in all fairness, RP is not doing too well tonight...
and freaking Huckabee is all smooth-remember-when-I-was-a-child type of talk that makes him look warm... he swinging for dear life....

not cool

[Richandler]

Chris Mathews is a moron and I'm sure his producer is in charge. I think we need to orginize ways to get these complete tools off the air. He just hit is 10th anniversy it would be awesome to see him gone 6 months later. MSNBC is developing this uneducated liberal following that is all over Keith Olbermann's crotch. It's ridiculous. Hopefully there is a poll we can vote on to embarass them again.

[constituent]

So if I'm understanding you correctly, what you're telling me is that Alan Keyes got Ron Pauled?