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Rael
03-24-2010, 12:04 PM
A step in the right direction! Now if they would just drop the other 4 days!

4-Day School Weeks Might Be Coming In Illinois
State House Has Passed Bill Allowing School Districts To Set Up Shorter Weeks; Mayor Daley Has Doubts
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (CBS) ―


Add an entire school day to the chopping block. State lawmakers want to move financially struggling schools to four day weeks. They say it will save money, and it won't affect classroom time.

The superintendent of one local school district believes the plan could work. CBS 2's Dorothy Tucker paid them a visit.

"I think it's something we should take a look at," said Dr. Kamala Buckner, Superintendent of Thornton Township High Schools District 205.

Kids would still have to complete the same number of hours per school year, so switching to four-day school weeks would mean longer school days or shorter summer vacations.

It's an intriguing proposal because district 205 faces a $5 million deficit next year and Buckner sees a shortened week as a viable option.

"That means the heat is not on, the lights are not on, we don't have to worry about cleaning the building," Buckner said.

And when you throw the one less day a week of school bus service, it means a savings of nearly $2 million a year.

The Illinois House approved the bill, HB4886, on Monday. The bill allows school districts to operate on four-day week plans, with the approval of the state Board of Education. It would require a minimum of 880 hours of school for every student.

The bill also allows the school board to "establish experimental educational programs, with conditions."

The final vote on the bill was 81-21. It will now go to the state Senate.

State Rep. Bill Black (R-Danville) was the sponsor of the bill. He told the Chicago Tribune he proposed the idea after a school superintendent in downstate Vermilion County complained about increasing fuel costs associated with bussing rural children to school.

But Darcelle Williams, principal of Thornwood High School, said "The downside is great."

Williams doesn't like the shortened week because it would mean fewer days for team practices; students who receive free lunch would miss a day; and, since the other four days would be longer, after-school activities would start later.

"Many of our students don't leave until six. Now, if they have an extended day they're here later, then with the activities they might not be getting home until 7 p.m." said Williams.

"There are some pros and cons to it," said Johari Mackey, a junior at Thornwood.

On the positive side, Mackey thinks increasing classes from 50 to 60 or 70 minutes would give students more time to understand the lessons. She also likes the extra day off.

"It would definitely give us more time to study," she said.

"Studying for a test that's coming on Monday, that would not happen," argued Michael Daniel. "Since because that Friday that's a lax day which turns Saturday into another day where they might rest and then go to a party."

And, with most parents working weekdays, some parents and teachers also worry about teens being unsupervised and getting into trouble.

Mayor Richard M. Daley said such a plan would put "undue hardship on a lot of parents."

"Again, when you think four-day school week, what do parents do on a Friday or a Monday or a Wednesday?" Mayor Daley said. "Many of the parents are working. A single parent has to work, and so… what do they do with their child. There are so many problems on this issue. There's no quick solution. Everyone has to come together and figure this out."

Daley said lawmakers should look for other ways to save money. He suggested having state workers take unpaid furlough days, the system that has been implemented in Chicago for city workers.

On Monsters & Money in the Morning Tuesday, co-host Mike North said reducing the number of days in school would be bad for students.

"This is a bad, bad deal," North said. "Just like the sports deal, where they're trying to get rid of the sports programs – where do you go? I don't think you cheat the kids."

"When do you go to a three-day school week? When do you go to a two-day? I'm just saying," North added.

MelissaWV
03-24-2010, 12:08 PM
Williams doesn't like the shortened week because it would mean fewer days for team practices; students who receive free lunch would miss a day; and, since the other four days would be longer, after-school activities would start later.

"Many of our students don't leave until six. Now, if they have an extended day they're here later, then with the activities they might not be getting home until 7 p.m." said Williams.

"There are some pros and cons to it," said Johari Mackey, a junior at Thornwood.

On the positive side, Mackey thinks increasing classes from 50 to 60 or 70 minutes would give students more time to understand the lessons. She also likes the extra day off.

"It would definitely give us more time to study," she said.

"Studying for a test that's coming on Monday, that would not happen," argued Michael Daniel. "Since because that Friday that's a lax day which turns Saturday into another day where they might rest and then go to a party."

And, with most parents working weekdays, some parents and teachers also worry about teens being unsupervised and getting into trouble.

Mayor Richard M. Daley said such a plan would put "undue hardship on a lot of parents."

"Again, when you think four-day school week, what do parents do on a Friday or a Monday or a Wednesday?" Mayor Daley said. "Many of the parents are working. A single parent has to work, and so… what do they do with their child. There are so many problems on this issue. There's no quick solution. Everyone has to come together and figure this out."

Daley said lawmakers should look for other ways to save money. He suggested having state workers take unpaid furlough days, the system that has been implemented in Chicago for city workers.

On Monsters & Money in the Morning Tuesday, co-host Mike North said reducing the number of days in school would be bad for students.

"This is a bad, bad deal," North said. "Just like the sports deal, where they're trying to get rid of the sports programs – where do you go? I don't think you cheat the kids."

"When do you go to a three-day school week? When do you go to a two-day? I'm just saying," North added.

It's funny how the red parts have NOTHING to do with education. The objections are based on the fact that kids might be unsupervised, or miss lunch, or that practice might become a hardship.

As for the question (in green)... What do you do? You homeschool.

ARealConservative
03-24-2010, 12:08 PM
they had to cut 25% of state troopers too. :D

Ninja Homer
03-24-2010, 12:13 PM
There are some school districts in Minnesota currently on 4-day weeks. Students just have longer days the 4 that they're there. It saves money on buses, lunches, heating, etc. It just makes sense for small districts with budget problems. I haven't heard anything about students doing any better or worse in school.

Elwar
03-24-2010, 12:14 PM
Hopefully parents use that extra day for homeschooling.

ChaosControl
03-24-2010, 12:15 PM
I'd like a four day work week.

Anyway, four day school week fine, maybe the parents could realize one of them should be at home raising their kids instead of obsessing over a stupid career. Then they could use the extra day to raise them better so that we don't continue to get another generation of morons in charge of this nation.

Rael
03-24-2010, 12:20 PM
I'd like a four day work week.

Anyway, four day school week fine, maybe the parents could realize one of them should be at home raising their kids instead of obsessing over a stupid career. Then they could use the extra day to raise them better so that we don't continue to get another generation of morons in charge of this nation.


They are just going to bitch about having to get a babysitter. What Daley said is very revealing:


Mayor Richard M. Daley said such a plan would put "undue hardship on a lot of parents."

School is a free babysitting service where the kids can get free school lunches, so they are more than willing to turn their kids over to the government propaganda machine.

ARealConservative
03-24-2010, 12:21 PM
I'd like a four day work week.

Anyway, four day school week fine, maybe the parents could realize one of them should be at home raising their kids instead of obsessing over a stupid career. Then they could use the extra day to raise them better so that we don't continue to get another generation of morons in charge of this nation.

our maybe the loss of the dollars buying power makes it necessary for both parents to work

Elwar
03-24-2010, 12:28 PM
Perhaps parents will look into private school.

silverhandorder
03-24-2010, 12:46 PM
"That means the heat is not on, the lights are not on, we don't have to worry about cleaning the building," Buckner said.

LOL not an option for NYC. Our schools are on 24/7 burning fuel.

Dunedain
03-24-2010, 01:30 PM
I picture Friday's on the south side of Chicago as one big brawl.