Tom Woods/nullification on NPR NOW! CALL IN!

[Valli6]

3/23

"10:00am ET I’ll be on NPR’s “On Point” alongside a Duke law professor to discuss the various nullification/federalism initiatives around the country.* I for one would welcome your calls — 1-800-423-8255."

To listen online go here:
http://www.wbur.org/listen

[CharlesTX]

Nice! Thanks for the link. Listening now.

[nullvalu]

sweet thx!

[Bruno]

tuning in. thanks!

hmmm. none of the listen live links are working for me for some reason

[jmag]

The commie is not mentioning the forcing to contract with private parties. Do the supreme robes consider the federal power that broad? I think it will be declared unconstitutional, but I'm an optimist.

[nullvalu]

Thomas Woods is my hero! his Rally for the Republic speech was incredible, such a great mouthpiece for our cause. Wonder if he has any political aspirations?

[Valli6]

You can post comments here:
http://www.onpointradio.org/2010/03/the-states-rights-challenge
So far, most comments are limited to the typical "racist" & "teabagger" references.

[jmdrake]

Nullification did not begin and end with the civil war. It was attempted by South Carolina during the presidency of Andrew Jackson. At that time slavery wasn't on the table at all. Jackson owned slaves himself and South Carolina's only complaint was high tariffs which it felt unfairly hurt agricultural states to the benefit of industrial states. Jackson threatened to hang those involved and South Carolina blinked. McCulloch v. Maryland was an even earlier attempt by a state to regulate a corrupt national bank out of existence. (Ironically Andrew Jackson later killed it).

The states lost both of those fights. But they've won other fights such as the 1992 New York v U.S. decision which held the 10th amendment limited the power of congress to direct states to legislate in a particular way. They won U.S. v. Lopez which struck down a federal school gun free zone law as outside the power of congress under the commerce clause. The states also won in U.S. v. Morrison which declared that the federal "violence against women act" went beyond the commerce clause power. The commerce clause power is interesting. It's how the federal government usurps most state and civilian rights. This broad power came as a result of Wickard v. Filburn, a depression era case which held that the federal government could fine a farmer for growing "excess wheat" which he fed to his OWN family and farm animals in order to affect price controls. Imagine the government telling you that you had to dig up your backyard garden. That happened in Cambodia and could happen here under that ruling. The 13th and 14th amendments bar slavery and set the foundation for basic civil rights legislation (Jim Crow laws were themselves unconstitutional under the 14th amendment, although this was ignored), but it was the commerce clause that gave the government extraordinary powers for both "good" and ill. I say "good" in quotes because the argument can clearly be made that the "good" achieved could be gained by other less questionable means.

Lastly the commerce clause cuts against traditional "liberal" interests as well. The liberal voters in California want medical marijuana? Tough. Undermining some of the strength of the Lopez case is Gonzalez v Raich which ruled that even if you grow medical marijuana yourself for your own personal use the government can still come after you based on the commerce clause power because it's part of a larger "regulatory scheme". Sure Obama stopped enforcing raids on medical marijuana shops, but what happens with the next president?

States rights isn't all about "race" or "slavery" or "the south". It's simply another tool in the arsenal of the republic. Any tool can be used for different purposes.

[BuddyRey]

Let us know when the 'Tubes get posted!

[libertygrl]

You may want to check out this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=237040

[BuddyRey]

Let us know when the 'Tubes get posted!

Bump!

[Anti Federalist]

You can post comments here:
http://www.onpointradio.org/2010/03/the-states-rights-challenge
So far, most comments are limited to the typical "racist" & "teabagger" references.

Actually I found a lot of the comments encouraging.

The statists would be just as happy if we left.

[USAFCapt]

http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-point-tom-ashbrook-podcast/id121534955

Link to On Point podcast via itunes. Ashbrook's show is very good.

[mczerone]

http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-point-tom-ashbrook-podcast/id121534955

Link to On Point podcast via itunes. Ashbrook's show is very good.

"Very Good" on NPR equates to a whole 20 seconds before I tell them to shut the F*** up, and change the station.

[Alawn]

They never gave Woods a chance to talk. The other guy got double the time.

[Matt Collins]

Here is a great review of Tom Woods' new book Nullification:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/reviews/books/3842-a-brilliant-exposition-on-the-effectiveness-of-nullification (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/reviews/books/3842-a-brilliant-exposition-on-the-effectiveness-of-nullification)