It's over - we are sooo totally SCREWED! :(

[tangent4ronpaul]

looks like 21 Dems will be keeping their jobs come November....

-t

[GunnyFreedom]

Yeah, I am sure that this will go ugly, but this vote is just on the rules for the debate. :D

[FrankRep]

JBS Founder Robert Welch predicts the Future in 1958.

YouTube - JBS Founder Robert Welch in 1974: Forerunner of Ron Paul? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lecAy-3Qtxk)

[torchbearer]

Guam has active house reps with votes?
I swear he just mentioned a rep from guam.

[crushingstep7]

The blowback will be momentous, have no doubt about that.

Let's just hope this doesn't put us in the gutter, financially.

Oh yeah.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Correction 28 Dems get to keep their jobs

-t

[FrankRep]

The blowback will be momentous, have no doubt about that.

Three states are set to sue the Federal Government and several states will mostly likely pass Nullification Laws.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_12-2009/2605-coverstory.jpg

State vs. Federal: The Nullification Movement
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/2957-state-vs-federal-the-nullification-movement

Nullification in a Nutshell
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/american/2971-nullification-in-a-nutshell

[Juan McCain]

Yeah, I am sure that this will go ugly, but this vote is just on the rules for the debate. :D

28 Dems didn't even want to continue . . .

I wonder how long the debate will go on for . . . before the actual health care bill vote.

[Indy Vidual]

JBS Founder Robert Welch predicts the Future in 1958.

YouTube - JBS Founder Robert Welch in 1974: Forerunner of Ron Paul? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lecAy-3Qtxk)

Good video, thanks.

[specsaregood]

Guam has active house reps with votes?
I swear he just mentioned a rep from guam.

They aren't given a vote. But yes, all US terroritories and protectorates are alllow a non-voting Rep.

Although, technically the 2001 Homeland security act redefined those as "states". and they are eligible to be on Obama's newly created board of governors using that definition. But that is a topic for another day.....

[Sandman33]

JBS Founder Robert Welch predicts the Future in 1958.

YouTube - JBS Founder Robert Welch in 1974: Forerunner of Ron Paul? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lecAy-3Qtxk)


Anyone that sees this and then sees literally EVERYTHING he spoke of happen afterwards that STILL denies the NWO deserves to be a damn slave.

[New York For Paul]

YouTube - Animal House - Bluto's Inspiration Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q47bpOCTcaY&feature=related)

[Sandman33]

YouTube - Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY)

[tonesforjonesbones]

Nothing is worse than the democraps being in control...in one year they've pretty much destroyed what was left of the republic. THIS is why I can't vote third party on the national level and you can bet I'll vote for anyone with an R beside their name to KICK THOSE FILTHY BASTARDS TO THE CURB IN NOVEMBER. tones

[Vessol]

Watch, when this bill goes into effect in 4 years when the Republicans are presumably in charge, they won't remove it.


Nothing is worse than the democraps being in control...in one year they've pretty much destroyed what was left of the republic. THIS is why I can't vote third party on the national level and you can bet I'll vote for anyone with an R beside their name to KICK THOSE FILTHY BASTARDS TO THE CURB IN NOVEMBER. tones


Ah yes. Because the country was just peachy before Obama, right Tones?

Well when Beck gives the marching orders, make sure to vote for his candidate, because I can guarantee you it won't be Ron Paul.

[emazur]

Nothing is worse than the democraps being in control...in one year they've pretty much destroyed what was left of the republic. THIS is why I can't vote third party on the national level and you can bet I'll vote for anyone with an R beside their name to KICK THOSE FILTHY BASTARDS TO THE CURB IN NOVEMBER. tones

In 2006 when Libertarians were running, I voted L, everywhere else I voted D in order to chase those Republican rascals out (someone needs to dig up that Quigley quote). Didn't work out too well for me. In '08, I only voted Libertarian when there was a candidate and left other contested elections blank. In any case, the Democrat congressman elected in '08 in my district switched parties to Republican
YouTube - Harry Browne on voting for the lesser of 2 evils (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euckWFonKaU)

[Petar]

Nothing is worse than the democraps being in control...in one year they've pretty much destroyed what was left of the republic. THIS is why I can't vote third party on the national level and you can bet I'll vote for anyone with an R beside their name to KICK THOSE FILTHY BASTARDS TO THE CURB IN NOVEMBER. tones

Do you have some kind of obsessive compulsive disorder?

You add "tones" after everything that you say, as if you are trying to develop some kind of special notoriety, like "Jughead" constantly wearing his little crown or something...

And your crazy idea that a candidate with an "R" after their name will always save you from a candidates with a "D" after their name, is pure superstition.

You may as well be walking around with a garlic necklace everywhere that you go...

Have you never heard of "divide and conquer"?

As long as you are unable to understand that the top "R's" are on the same team as the top "D's" then you will forever be chasing your own tail.

Watching you spin wouldn't be half as annoying if you weren't so smug and constantly chastising everyone who refuses to join in on your self-imposed futility.

You are trying to change everyone else so that you don't have to be always reminded of your own neurosis.

Why don't you just do everyone a favor and isolate yourself in some rubber room for a while at least...

[GunnyFreedom]

Nothing is worse than the democraps being in control...in one year they've pretty much destroyed what was left of the republic. THIS is why I can't vote third party on the national level and you can bet I'll vote for anyone with an R beside their name to KICK THOSE FILTHY BASTARDS TO THE CURB IN NOVEMBER. tones

What you don't get is that it's better to let the nation collapse quickly than to elect oligarchical fascist socialist Republicans. At least then we will have the opportunity to rebuild.

[Travlyr]

What you don't get is that it's better to let the nation collapse quickly than to elect oligarchical fascist socialist Republicans. At least then we will have the opportunity to rebuild.

That's right... the Republican leadership are not friends of liberty.

[AmericaFyeah92]

Nothing is worse than the democraps being in control...in one year they've pretty much destroyed what was left of the republic. THIS is why I can't vote third party on the national level and you can bet I'll vote for anyone with an R beside their name to KICK THOSE FILTHY BASTARDS TO THE CURB IN NOVEMBER. tones

Have you learned nothing? The first thing Republicans will do in power is purge the GOP of the recent Libertarian flare-up and go back to the Gingrich/Daschle/Cheney way of doing things.

This healthcare bill is tragic, but the PATRIOT ACT, the upcoming "Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010" , and all the other totalitarian schemes of the Republicans are just as bad if not worse.

How quickly we forget....

[Peace&Freedom]

Republicans give us the non-stop warfare state, till we get disgusted and run to the Democrats. Democrats give us the non-stop welfare state, till we get disgusted and run to the Republicans. At all times, both parties push a total state, pro-Fed, pro-war, pro-NWO agenda forward, by taking turns alternating the welfare or warfare emphasis. That's why we call it the two-party/left-right paradigm, or puppet show.

Notice how all the current talk about healthcare-welfare has distracted us from talking about the 7th anniversary of the Iraq war, which went by this week almost without coverage. Upon the 7th anniversary of passage of Obamacare, when we're all drowning in bankruptcy from it and dying from lack of accessible health services, a new war will probably be launched somewhere, to divert our attention yet again. And around and around we go.

[Anti Federalist]

We've been well and truly fucked long before this legislation came up.

[tonesforjonesbones]

NOTHING is a filthy and dirty as a democrat. TONES

[Anti Federalist]

NOTHING is a filthy and dirty as a democrat. TONES

I...ummm...errr...yeah, OK.

:rolleyes:

[FrankRep]

NOTHING is a filthy and dirty as a democrat. TONES
You are such a Troll.

[pcosmar]

NOTHING is a filthy and dirty as a democrat. TONES

Have you seen my basement?

[tonesforjonesbones]

I am not a troll...but I will be at the supervisor of elections office in the morning to change my party from libertarian to republican. I will have to join the Republican Liberty Caucus...the libertarian arm of the republican party. The democrats are the most evil bastards on the face of the earth..they have been F*****G us for 4 years..since 2006 and this is the last straw for me. THey are far worse cheaters than the republicans...Bush was NEVER this bad. Bad yes..but nothing like this. TONES

[Travlyr]

Nothing is worse than the democraps being in control...in one year they've pretty much destroyed what was left of the republic. THIS is why I can't vote third party on the national level and you can bet I'll vote for anyone with an R beside their name to KICK THOSE FILTHY BASTARDS TO THE CURB IN NOVEMBER. tones


Tones - Even this Republican?
YouTube - Dick Cheney ex-director of CFR talks to David Rockefeller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg&feature=related)

[Anti Federalist]

Have you seen my basement?

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h145/Twista6002/i-lol-d.jpg

[FrankRep]

I am not a troll...but I will be at the supervisor of elections office in the morning to change my party from libertarian to republican. I will have to join the Republican Liberty Caucus...the libertarian arm of the republican party. The democrats are the most evil bastards on the face of the earth..they have been F*****G us for 4 years..since 2006 and this is the last straw for me. THey are far worse cheaters than the republicans...Bush was NEVER this bad. Bad yes..but nothing like this. TONES

Who passed the Homeland Security and the Patriot Act? Oh Yeah, the Republicans.

How dirty is that?

[sofia]

I am not a troll...but I will be at the supervisor of elections office in the morning to change my party from libertarian to republican. I will have to join the Republican Liberty Caucus...the libertarian arm of the republican party. The democrats are the most evil bastards on the face of the earth..they have been F*****G us for 4 years..since 2006 and this is the last straw for me. THey are far worse cheaters than the republicans...Bush was NEVER this bad. Bad yes..but nothing like this. TONES

Bush Cheney were just as bad as Obama.

They allowed Israel to stage the 911 attacks so we could have perpetual war....That is EVIL

[Anti Federalist]

I am not a troll...but I will be at the supervisor of elections office in the morning to change my party from libertarian to republican. I will have to join the Republican Liberty Caucus...the libertarian arm of the republican party. The democrats are the most evil bastards on the face of the earth..they have been F*****G us for 4 years..since 2006 and this is the last straw for me. THey are far worse cheaters than the republicans...Bush was NEVER this bad. Bad yes..but nothing like this. TONES

Cheaters?

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater?

Listen, they are both the same!

With a very few notable exceptions, they all serve the same masters and accomplish the same goals. What you are watching here tonight is just carefully crafted theater.

And yes, Bush was just as bad, if not worse.

[FrankRep]

Bush Cheney were just as bad as Obama.

They allowed Israel to stage the 911 attacks so we could have perpetual war....That is EVIL
You can't prove your allegations, Sofia.

[Paulitical Correctness]

Let's not suffer short term memory loss here, of all places...

R = D = scum

[FrankRep]

Let's not suffer short term memory loss here, of all places...

R = D = scum

I still remember Homeland Security and the Patriot Act passed by the Republicans.

[sofia]

You can't prove your allegations, Sofia.

The truth about the 911 attacks has indeed been proven.......read the book in my signature.

[Peace&Freedom]

Bush Cheney were just as bad as Obama.

They allowed Israel to stage the 911 attacks so we could have perpetual war....That is EVIL

Even more evil is that MIHOP is a better explanation---elements of the US government worked with Israeli, Pakistani and other intelligence agencies to make the black op happen. Only US/UK have the nano-thermite that the WTC was rigged with. The US/CIA, not the Mossad, passed instructions to Al Qaeda on the DAY OF 9-11 (as per Sibel Edmonds' testimony), and it was CIA-controlled ISI that got the $100k passed on to Atta. It was VP Cheney (according to Norman Mineta's testimony) who refused to CALL OFF the Pentagon attack---not just failed to prevent it, or let it happen. These four factors alone clearly evidence elements of the US government being in a control position to make the false flag happen. Israel helped, but 9-11 was a US government MIHOP inside job.

[Anti Federalist]

I still remember Homeland Security and the Patriot Act passed by the Republicans.

TWIC cards and TSA and No Child Left Behind and 1 trillion dollar prescription drug benefits and REAL ID and on and on and on...

[dwdollar]

Stay strong! They may have won the battle on health care but the WAR for FREEDOM rages on!!!




...

[sofia]

Even more evil is that MIHOP is a better explanation---elements of the US government worked with Israeli, Pakistani and other intelligence agencies to make the black op happen. Only US/UK have the nano-thermite that the WTC was rigged with. The US/CIA, not the Mossad, passed instructions to Al Qaeda on the DAY OF 9-11 (as per Sibel Edmonds' testimony), and it was CIA-controlled ISI that got the $100k passed on to Atta. It was VP Cheney (according to Norman Mineta's testimony) who refused to CALL OFF the Pentagon attack---not just failed to prevent it, or let it happen. These four factors alone clearly evidence elements of the US government being in a control position to make the false flag happen. Israel helped, but 9-11 was a US government MIHOP inside job.

Point 1 - agreed

Pont 2- If US has nanothermite...Israel surely has it too. They get all our secrets

Point 3 -There is no Al Qaeda. It's all a CIA-MOSSAD front

Point 4- Atta had an Israeli imposter. The real Atta was not on the plane. He hadhad his passport stolen and was likely killed after the 9/11 op.

Point 5 -Agreed....Cheney definitely played a key role in the orchestration on 9/11...But Cheney is a neo-con...totally owned by Zionists like Scooter Libby.


911 was not just the Mossad. ...The Globalist Bildeberger faction who are indifferent to Israel also supported 9/11 (Brezenski, Rockefeller etc).....The Bildebergers and the the Zionists both were on the same page. Bildebergers are more concerned with Afghanistan and surrounding Russia and China.....Neo Cons/Zonists are more converned with Israel - Iraq etc.

But the tactical part of the job itself appears to be mainly the Mossad....with US elements providing protective cover.

[Carson]

http://photos.imageevent.com/stokeybob/followthemoney/revivemarx.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/passtheball_dees.jpg

[wirenut]

Makes me sick seeing that this health care bill passed. Just can't believe it. I'm fuming.

[sevin]

Republicans give us the non-stop warfare state, till we get disgusted and run to the Democrats. Democrats give us the non-stop welfare state, till we get disgusted and run to the Republicans. At all times, both parties push a total state, pro-Fed, pro-war, pro-NWO agenda forward, by taking turns alternating the welfare or warfare emphasis. That's why we call it the two-party/left-right paradigm, or puppet show.

Notice how all the current talk about healthcare-welfare has distracted us from talking about the 7th anniversary of the Iraq war, which went by this week almost without coverage. Upon the 7th anniversary of passage of Obamacare, when we're all drowning in bankruptcy from it and dying from lack of accessible health services, a new war will probably be launched somewhere, to divert our attention yet again. And around and around we go.

well put

[Anti Federalist]

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/swear_dees2.jpg

[Original_Intent]

Fuck you Nancy.
Fuck you Harry.
Fuck you Barry.

[ladycat]

We're doooooomed!

[DapperDan]

sooooo my liberal friends are calling me dumb for calling this HC bill a fascist takeover.....

sigh.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

Republicans give us the non-stop warfare state, till we get disgusted and run to the Democrats. Democrats give us the non-stop welfare state, till we get disgusted and run to the Republicans. At all times, both parties push a total state, pro-Fed, pro-war, pro-NWO agenda forward, by taking turns alternating the welfare or warfare emphasis. That's why we call it the two-party/left-right paradigm, or puppet show.

Notice how all the current talk about healthcare-welfare has distracted us from talking about the 7th anniversary of the Iraq war, which went by this week almost without coverage. Upon the 7th anniversary of passage of Obamacare, when we're all drowning in bankruptcy from it and dying from lack of accessible health services, a new war will probably be launched somewhere, to divert our attention yet again. And around and around we go.

+1

[Pauls' Revere]

Watch, when this bill goes into effect in 4 years when the Republicans are presumably in charge, they won't remove it.




Ah yes. Because the country was just peachy before Obama, right Tones?

Well when Beck gives the marching orders, make sure to vote for his candidate, because I can guarantee you it won't be Ron Paul.

and will be blamed for it too.

[Pauls' Revere]

sooooo my liberal friends are calling me dumb for calling this HC bill a fascist takeover.....

sigh.

in four years you'll laugh in thier face.

[AuH20]

sooooo my liberal friends are calling me dumb for calling this HC bill a fascist takeover.....

sigh.

Do they even know the definition of fascism? When the government reserves the right to raid your bank account or withhold tax refunds, so as to funnel individuals towards health coverage only offered by a select few insurance companies, it's pretty clear cut. And to think I thought these libs were generally well-read.

[Sandman33]

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/passtheball_dees.jpg

This one's REALLY good. Props to whoever created it.

[FrankRep]

Ron Paul:

National Bankruptcy will Repeal Obama's Federal Healthcare
http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-03-22/ron-paul-national-bankruptcy-will-repeal-obamacare/

[Anti Federalist]

This one's REALLY good. Props to whoever created it.

It's a Dees Illustration.

Good to see you around.