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Throwback280s
10-08-2007, 11:21 PM
I am tired of this conflict. I've always enjoyed Glenn Beck's program for years. He's a genuine man who truly cares for his country. He's the only mainstream media figure who is right on so many Constitutional, true conservative issues. His show is entertaining. He's simply dead wrong on the War on Terror issue. Instead of trying to be confrontational with him and get emotional I've developed a bullet point list for you all to use to finally defeat his misled arguments using his own logic and lingo.

Here's what I'd like to do. Let's circulate this list around and have dozens of our patriots copy/paste email this message to Glenn Beck. No insults, no BS, just the facts the way he'll understand them. His email is me@glennbeck.com ... His MySpace page is here:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=87050786&MyToken=06275d57-d50c-4fa1-ae12-f021ef1bebbd

Also, anyone that wants to call his program. Feel free to use these points in a very respectful and calm manner.

He can't dispute this logic. It addresses all his concerns regarding the War on Terror.

Glenn Beck is the third highest rated talk radio program in the country. He's got about 7 million listeners every week, besting the news broadcast shows' ratings. He's already admitted that he agrees with Ron Paul the most on everything except the war. So let's help him with that one last hurdle. If we win him on our side, it'll be a huge breakthrough in winning back the Conservative movement for true conservatism. Please help me in doing this.

Here's the document:

Non-interventionism


-Radical Muslim leaders do use religion to help their cause. But by all expert accounts including Michael Scheuer of the CIA, the number one catalyst for terrorism is foreign occupation on one's homeland.

-If we do fight wars, we must always declare them and fight to win. You know as much as I do that none of the front runners on either party will actually fight a politically incorrect war with Iran. They'll keep our soldiers' hands tied behind their backs as they enage in a neverending war with Iran....inadvertently uniting the America-friendly citizens of Iran against us for generations to come.

-Is the War on Terror going to be won with this gameplan?

With non-interventionism, we remove the biggest recruiting tool the terrorists have: occupation on their lands. With the billions saved from this, we'll also thwart their plans to crush us economically.

With our removal from Mid East conflict/affairs, non-interventionism would free Israel. The dirty little secret is that our current policy on Israel is a Warfare welfare one. We give them aide but our gov't keeps a tight leash around their neck...similar to what socialists due to the poor in the US. Conservatism should be consistent.

With Israel finally free to act on it's own without politically correct USA on its back, they won't think twice to use their multiple nukes or other advanced weapons to stop Iran from disrupting the Mid East with a nuke. Israel will also be an effective bulwark against Iran meddling with Iraq.

By the way, you keep referring to the prophetic end time Ezekiel's War (Ch. 38 & 39) in reference to a conflict with Iran. Your past guests John Hagee, Joel Rosenberg, and Tim Lahaye can all tell you one fact about this future event: It does not involve the USA. "The kings of the West" don't interefere as God demonstrates His power by crushing the Russian-Iranian alliance as it confronts Israel.

How bout we step aside, Win the War on Terror through non-interventionism and let God do the rest?

torchbearer
10-08-2007, 11:28 PM
Electric Shock Therapy.

speciallyblend
10-08-2007, 11:29 PM
Beck is pathetic,i have a better solution,change the channel.

Throwback280s
10-08-2007, 11:31 PM
We can't reach out to the mainstream conservative base if we can't make longterm inroads within the talk radio world. If Beck joins us, that's 7 million listeners warming up to the man. Limbaugh could potentially take a similar route with his 20 million listeners.

These are the people we need on our side to reclaim the conservative movement and win the presidency.

The Only Woj
10-08-2007, 11:32 PM
well, Ron Paul DID stiff Glenn Beck after the first FOX debate. Ron just needs to accept whatever invite they give him and do it.

STOP EMAILING GLENN BECK about this. You can't force Ron on people.

Throwback280s
10-08-2007, 11:33 PM
well, Ron Paul DID stiff Glenn Beck after the first FOX debate. Ron just needs to accept whatever invite they give him and do it.

STOP EMAILING GLENN BECK about this. You can't force Ron on people.

Wait a second, the email I suggested doesn't mention Ron Paul one bit. It's simply an attempt to discuss raw political philosophy. It just so happens that if he's persuaded by these arguments, the product will be a Ron Paul conversion.

Eric21ND
10-08-2007, 11:38 PM
Beck is about as bad as Dennis Miller. The threat of terrorism has made these guys into scared little housewives.

Hook
10-08-2007, 11:42 PM
Yeah, people don't just turn around their belief systems overnight. I highly doubt Beck is going to endorse anyone but Mitt since they are both Mormons.

Akus
10-08-2007, 11:46 PM
I am tired of this conflict. I've always enjoyed Glenn Beck's program for years. He's a genuine man who ....

I think this effort, though praise worthy, is in vain. You see, throwback, those, whose sources of information about world events are more then just Glenn, or Michael, or Bill, or Rush, have already found a logical explanation why we should in words of our beloved guy, "just come home". You can't reason with a shock jock and make no mistake, they're all shock jocks even if they do support Bush. Their purpose is entertainment, not discussing world events as Air America falsely believed.

If Glenn is really open minded, he would have already have found a million reasons to oppose the war, to invite Ron Paul over and give him an ample time to explain his positions for the uninitiated. He could have done those things or, at the very least, instead of playing circus music or whatever else, he could have successfully rebuttaled Ron Paul's Iraqi war opposition. And no, "they're fighting for our freedom", "you hate America if you do not want Dubya's cock" are not rebuttals, it's just a rhetoric to whip up emotions and beat the war drum no one is listening to anymore anyway.

Throwback280s
10-08-2007, 11:53 PM
I think this effort, though praise worthy, is in vain. You see, throwback, those, whose sources of information about world events are more then just Glenn, or Michael, or Bill, or Rush, have already found a logical explanation why we should in words of our beloved guy, "just come home". You can't reason with a shock jock and make no mistake, they're all shock jocks even if they do support Bush. Their purpose is entertainment, not discussing world events as Air America falsely believed.

If Glenn is really open minded, he would have already have found a million reasons to oppose the war, to invite Ron Paul over and give him an ample time to explain his positions for the uninitiated. He could have done those things or, at the very least, instead of playing circus music or whatever else, he could have successfully rebuttaled Ron Paul's Iraqi war opposition. And no, "they're fighting for our freedom", "you hate America if you do not want Dubya's cock" are not rebuttals, it's just a rhetoric to whip up emotions and beat the war drum no one is listening to anymore anyway.

Wouldn't it be good for business for this shock jock to buck the trend of the talk radio leadership's message? Set himself apart from the pack and pave his own niche in the market?

hard@work
10-08-2007, 11:54 PM
I'm definately one for converting pundits. But Beck is probably the servant of the antichrist as far as I can see it. This guy is seriously deep into war with Iran. He's praised the idea while kneeling at the lap of Netanyahu, and from what I'm hearing he's cheerleading it with Hagee. I heard him just the other day say that he had a "vision" about Adminijad being pure evil. But he said it as in the literal sense, "I know this will get me painted as fringe but I had a vision...". He wants war, he is selling war, and he won't stop until he gets more war.

This man is evil. Either he serves someone in it or is insane. I can't tell you which it is but I would be astounded to see even a small crack in his chickenhawking for more death.

Tina
10-08-2007, 11:57 PM
You are looking the wrong direction for supporters.

Throwback280s
10-08-2007, 11:58 PM
The people that vote in the Republican primaries are the people who listen to talk radio.

fj45lvr
10-09-2007, 12:01 AM
who knows what really makes folks "tick".

there could be scores of different reasons (some totally selfish) that the guy wants to keep the mindset he has...(maybe he is following "orders" for all we know)

For one, I would love to know how many times you see the "talking heads" admit they were wrong on something they have been fighting tooth and nail to justify for years now???

The bottom line for them is that he is apart of the "ENTERTAINMENT BIZ" you do whatever "stic" that gets the most viewership and money coming in.

There are VERY few honest politicians and "talking heads" out there IMHO....

Read Pat Buchanan's Book "were the right went wrong" he is RIGHT on target!!!

Revolution9
10-09-2007, 02:35 AM
We can't reach out to the mainstream conservative base if we can't make longterm inroads within the talk radio world. If Beck joins us, that's 7 million listeners warming up to the man. Limbaugh could potentially take a similar route with his 20 million listeners.

These are the people we need on our side to reclaim the conservative movement and win the presidency.

Is that right.. I'll put a bug in your ear. If most of the supporters I have converted find out Beck and Lymphjaw are huckstering him they are likely to do an about face. These guys are not the great endorsements some of you think he is. They are agitpropist shills who deserve the unemployment line. Great Americans my ass.. Great Nazis..yes.

In a Paul adminstration they will have nothing to say of value. Send them to the curb and don't give their shopws ratings.

Randy

Revolution9
10-09-2007, 02:41 AM
The people that vote in the Republican primaries are the people who listen to talk radio.

The people who listen to Beck and Lymphjaw are self centered and think their shit don't stink. They will come into the movement and be disgusted we are not lockstep with them and whine and piss and moan like they always do. I ain't putting anybodys toys back in the playpen or peeling their soiled pampers from the wall. Why anybody would tune in to obfuscating liars littered with commercial detritus and deem them a power in this campaign is beyond me.. Not one of the rally folks here in Atlanta listens to this crapulous agitprop. I giuess we take the real estate between our ears more seriously than to allow it to be filled with garbage.

Randy

Taco John
10-09-2007, 03:01 AM
Glenn Beck is a fearmongering moron who capitalized on 9/11 to boost his career to heigths he never would have gone without that wind in his sails.

Mani
10-09-2007, 08:59 AM
Glenn Beck is a fearmongering moron who capitalized on 9/11 to boost his career to heigths he never would have gone without that wind in his sails.


No wonder Rudy in him seem so ecstatic while talking to each other.

ItsTime
10-09-2007, 09:00 AM
Did you not catch how he was making fun of the people who email/call him and act like morons?

Chester Copperpot
10-09-2007, 09:03 AM
Beck is pathetic,i have a better solution,change the channel.

Agreed.. I think Glen Beck's premise is to screw with us.. Have us divert our energies to him instead of helping Ron Paul.

Certainly, we have enough support to do this and not detract from our main efforts, but I wont take any part in it.. To me, its a waste of time.

The last program he had where he talked about Ron Paul all day but ONLY seemed to be able to connect with REAL UNINFORMED "RON PAUL SUPPORTERS"
was enough for me.

I couldnt get anything more than a busy signal for hours that i tried.. I viewed it as a complete intentional waste of my time.. Fuck Glen Beck

micahnelson
10-09-2007, 09:03 AM
Is that right.. I'll put a bug in your ear. If most of the supporters I have converted find out Beck and Lymphjaw are huckstering him they are likely to do an about face. These guys are not the great endorsements some of you think he is. They are agitpropist shills who deserve the unemployment line. Great Americans my ass.. Great Nazis..yes.

In a Paul adminstration they will have nothing to say of value. Send them to the curb and don't give their shopws ratings.

Randy

Yet I assume you are OK with Alex Jones' Endorsement...

apropos
10-09-2007, 09:19 AM
If you really want to strike fear into Beck, just call him up and tell him you aren't listening to the show anymore.

cujothekitten
10-09-2007, 09:23 AM
I don't want Beck on our side. The guy spreads around false information and acts like a 12 yr old... boycott him. He doesn't deserve to be getting paid for what he does.

Primbs
10-09-2007, 11:24 AM
Glen Beck likes Michael Scheuer of the CIA. He was on the radio show. Ron Paul and Michael Scheuer held the press conference going after Rudy. Glenn could have both Ron Paul and Michael Scheuer on talking about the war on terror.

Beck would have to be much more fair to Ron Paul with Michael there.