Sad day for the US and Obama Presidency

[Juan McCain]

http://www.cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx

White House Briefing about Rahm'ing ObamaCare down American throats without the vote we the people want - on CSPAN now.

[Travlyr]

http://www.cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx

White House Briefing about Rahm'ing ObamaCare down American throats without the vote we the people want - on CSPAN now.

Can you imagine what it is going to be like in America after this passes? Smokers are going to be even more hated by the bicycle crowd. Bacon will be outlawed. Fatties will lose all self-esteem. Hazardous recreation will be heavily regulated. Everyone should consider wearing body armor, face masks and helmets while outside. ALL IN THE NAME OF SAVING MONEY FOR HEALTH CARE! Dang.

[Juan McCain]

Rep. Cantor (R-VA) good stuff on now on House floor . . . watch or listen if ya' want.

[ctiger2]

I can't wait til these people become irrelevant with the collapse of the US.

[pcosmar]

Listening.
good points.
At least it will be on record. :(

[Juan McCain]

Gibbs (Obama Press Secretary) sure sounding dumb when asked about the state challenges from say Virginia and Idaho . . .

this Presidency is going to see a real tsunami that the Obama administration apparently has no clue of yet.

[MelissaWV]

Gibbs (Obama Press Secretary) sure sounding dumb when asked about the state challenges from say Virginia and Idaho . . .

this Presidency is going to see a real tsunami that the Obama administration apparently has no clue of yet.

Does that tsunami result from the earthquake in Hawaii? :D (Reference to another thread...)

[paulitics]

I can't believe the total disrespect for this nation's people's and laws. They no longer fear the people.

To any remote neocon reading this that still has a modicum of critical thinking skills left:

This is why the patriot act is dangerous. Do you get it now? Finally? They don't fear the people because the framework for the police state has been built, and is ready to go.

[Stary Hickory]

This is disgusting for sure. We should lock hem in prison really.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

criminals

[Chester Copperpot]

i can't believe the total disrespect for this nation's people's and laws. They no longer fear the people.

To any remote neocon reading this that still has a modicum of critical thinking skills left:

This is why the patriot act is dangerous. Do you get it now? Finally? They don't fear the people because the framework for the police state has been built, and is ready to go.

+1776

[anaconda]

I can't wait til these people become irrelevant with the collapse of the US.


None of us can wait. So let's get active and take our country back now.:)

[pcosmar]

Argghhh,
I can't listen to any more of this crap. :mad:

[JK/SEA]

This is disgusting for sure. We should lock hem in prison really.

Well, i did mention in another thread that there is a need now for the HAND-CUFF PARTY...

I can't watch anymore TV right now.

[DapperDan]

What a joke. These people don't know what is in the bill....it's more government, it's more money down the drain, and other useless crap that doesn't even address real HC concerns.

Fascism/Socialist/Communist....whatever it is, it reeks to high heaven and needs to be plunged back into the depths of hell where it came from.

http://research.history.org/Historical_Research/Research_Themes/ThemeRevolution/Loyalist/tar_and_feather.jpg

[Juan McCain]

yes, you do have to take it in short bursts . . .

and it is gonna be 72 hours of this till they vote on Sunday . . .

Rep. Cantor (R-VA) had his resolution admonishing Pelosi and the back room dealing tabled by an actual vote . . . that they could vote on.

[Anti Federalist]

I can't believe the total disrespect for this nation's people's and laws. They no longer fear the people.

To any remote neocon reading this that still has a modicum of critical thinking skills left:

This is why the patriot act is dangerous. Do you get it now? Finally? They don't fear the people because the framework for the police state has been built, and is ready to go.

+1776 as well.

W did his job well, didn't he??

[pcosmar]

yes, you do have to take it in short bursts . . .



I think I would like to see it given back,

in short bursts. :eek:

[ctiger2]

None of us can wait. So let's get active and take our country back now.:)

I'd like to be optimistic too. However, there are just far far too many sheeple still asleep in this country. 320+ million of them. The only thing that might wake them up is a 2X4 of economic collapse across their forehead.

[live liberty]

Can you imagine what it is going to be like in America after this passes? Smokers are going to be even more hated by the bicycle crowd. Bacon will be outlawed. Fatties will lose all self-esteem. Hazardous recreation will be heavily regulated. Everyone should consider wearing body armor, face masks and helmets while outside. ALL IN THE NAME OF SAVING MONEY FOR HEALTH CARE! Dang.

Outlaw BACON! They better not try...

But I know I'm going to be pissed at the people who don't take care of themselves.

Exercise, eat the right foods, see your doctor regularly, drink plenty of fluids and no more unsafe sports... now you are on my dime.

[kahless]

Hazardous recreation will be heavily regulated. Everyone should consider wearing body armor, face masks and helmets while outside. ALL IN THE NAME OF SAVING MONEY FOR HEALTH CARE! Dang.

I sure hope Surrogates are coming if that is the case. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogates_(film)


In 2017, use of remotely-controlled androids called "surrogates" allows everyone to live in idealized forms in the safety of their own homes. Because damage done to a surrogate is not felt by its owner, surrogate use is safer and near-universal.

[acptulsa]

Well, just so long as we've killed the requirement for health insurance, we've done a great thing. We'll be able to tell the generations they tried to create a mandatory minimum charge just to live and breathe in this nation and we stopped the arrogant bastards. That in and of itself is a great thing; it ranks with some of the crap We the People nipped in the bud back in the 'Seventies (and, no, you won't find those failed bills mentioned in the textbooks).

But that doesn't mean I'm done with this. We must kill as much of that stupidity as we can. And then we get to fight the Personal Emissions Carbon Tax that I can't help but feel is coming next. They can't get away with charging you for the oxygen you take in, but they sure seem intent on charging you a tax for exhaling...

[Bruno]

Republicans still speaking out against it on the House floor on Cspan

[RCA]

Republicans still speaking out against it on the House floor on Cspan

Yet, magically, in 5 years they will be defending it.

[torchbearer]

I'd like to be optimistic too. However, there are just far far too many sheeple still asleep in this country. 320+ million of them. The only thing that might wake them up is a 2X4 of economic collapse across their forehead.

i believe this statement is accurate.

[Erazmus]

Frederic Bastiat - The Law (1850)

In the first place, it would efface from everybody’s conscience the distinction between justice and injustice. No society can exist unless the laws are respected to a certain degree, but the safest way to make them respected is to make them respectable. When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law—two evils of equal magnitude, between which it would be difficult to choose.

It is so much in the nature of law to support justice that in the minds of the masses they are one and the same. There is in all of us a strong disposition to regard what is lawful as legitimate, so much so that many falsely derive all justice from law. It is sufficient, then, for the law to order and sanction plunder, that it may appear to many consciences just and sacred. Slavery, protection, and monopoly find defenders, not only in those who profit by them, but in those who suffer by them. If you suggest a doubt as to the morality of these institutions, it is said directly—“You are a dangerous experimenter, a utopian, a theorist, a despiser of the laws; you would shake the basis upon which society rests."