"Ron Paul's support fades after third quarter fluke." - Tomorrow's headline?

[SouthernGuy15]

"Ron Paul's support fades after third quarter fluke."

The above could very well be tomorrow's headline if we don't continue to support Ron Paul as vigorously and passionately as we possibly can!

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

The truth is we are no where near reaching the fund raising goal set for us this month. We are falling behind! Are we losing hope in a future without the income tax, excessive spending, and violations of our constitutional rights? Do we no longer find a future with more privacy, freedom, and liberty attractive?

Of course not! The Ron Paul Revolution is full of patriotic citizens that will always value small government, the constitution, and freedom! We recognize Ron Paul as the BEST CANDIDATE in the HISTORY of the Republican Party and the true CHAMPION of the constitution!

However, it seems to me we need to STEP THINGS UP if we want him to stay on track and obtain the nomination!

Quite frankly, we need to all dig deep and continue donating to his campaign. Ron Paul is a true fiscal conservative. He would NOT set a goal for 12 million dollars unless he REALLY AND TRUTHFULLY needed that much money to win!

A man with his track record of fiscal responsibility does NOT ask for money unless it is absolutely necessary!

The question now becomes are we going to provide him that money he VITALLY NEEDS to win the GOP nomination?

I think we should all think once again about how significant a Ron Paul presidency would be to all of us. Take a moment and think of how things are right now and how the nation would be dramatically different with Ron Paul as president! Can you even imagine how AWESOME it would be to have a true warrior for SMALL GOVERNMENT as president?

I don't mean mean a double speaking, promise breaking, and constitution violating politician. I mean a true small-government, peace loving, and freedom supporting PATRIOT like Ron Paul!

This dream is what gives me hope for the future. However, it's not just a dream. As of right now Ron Paul is doing well in his campaign. He is gaining supporters and getting more media exposure than ever. If we CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM VIGOROUSLY then he can WIN THE NOMINATION!

That's right, I believe Ron Paul can WIN. Not come in fourth, third, or second. But win the nomination and then the White House!

However, to make this happen we need to meet the goal that Ron Paul has set for us! We are currently far behind. Will you show your dedication to a better future for yourself, your family, and your nation by making a donation or even an additional donation?

It's up to ALL OF US if Ron Paul has the tools he needs to grow his campaign and win the nomination.

Will you help provide him with these tools? Will you dig deep and donate?

The future of this nation depends on YOUR generosity to his campaign!

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

[SouthernGuy15]

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[hard@work]

Tomorrow is the debate. Make sure you're ready to get out and spread the word.

[Magsec]

If RP blows me away he's getting $75, if not he gets $25. Cheapo college student doesn't have much to spend.

[deedles]

I'll bet after the debate he'll get a surge (pardon the choice of words). And I get paid thursday and will be sending some $$ then.

But, yes... we are falling behind for sure.

[Chrispy]

Although it is important that we continue to support RP financially, the best way we can do that is to find more people to donate. We cannot make the 12 million for the quarter by ourselves, it will take finding more voters (donors). We didn't make 1.2 million in the first week of the 3rd quarter.

[DrNoZone]

If RP blows me away he's getting $75, if not he gets $25. Cheapo college student doesn't have much to spend.

How about you compromise and give him $50 for effort? :D

[SouthernGuy15]

Quite frankly, we need to both find more people to donate and donate as much as possible ourselves.

Those that cannot afford to donate themselves (who have severe financial problems) need to work twice as hard at finding additional supporters to donate.

But I think if everyone who CAN donate more would ACTUALLY do so we could meet the goal Ron Paul has set.

Remember, Ron Paul has said his average donation is $40-45 dollars. I think if people dig deep the majority of people could donate more.

[deedles]

Thank you very much for your donation of $100.00 to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paul’s candidacy.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

Your confirmation number:
T51584-95115493



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[CMoore]

To put this in perspective:

$12,000,000 is 600,000 people giving only $20.00.

Whoever wins the election will get over 100,000,000
votes.

Rather than press the same crowd to keep giving,
we need MORE people on board. With more people
come more donations. Even if they are small
donations, they add up. The election will go to
the person with the most electoral college VOTES.
Not the person who raises the most money.

[SouthernGuy15]

Deedles,

Thanks for the donation! You are a true patriot!

Is there anyone here willing to match or exceed Deedles donation?

[katao]

SouthernGuy15 - very well said! The average donation was less than $100 in the 3rd quarter - that means there are lots of us that can still do more! If finances are tight, as they are for most of us, please consider donating a portion of your paycheck each time. Sell stuff on ebay.

Don't forget to ask parents, siblings, kids, cousins, friends, co-workers, EVERYONE you know to support Ron Paul and donate!

[DeadheadForPaul]

can people stop being so negative about the fundraising so far? Many people have given all they can. We have 10 threads like this per day

[SouthernGuy15]

DeadheadForPaul,

I'm just being truthful. We are very far behind. I'm not attacking anyone. I realize there are many people who are financially unable to donate.

However, when the average donation is $40 - 45 dollars that means there are a lot of supporters who COULD donate more. If they can donate more NOW is the time to do so!

Ron Paul needs our support. As of right now his campaign costs are going to skyrocket. Advertising, phone banks, literature, and staff will not come cheap. If we want this campaign to grow large enough to WIN the nomination we all need to keep donating!

[TechnoGuyRob]

Bump.

[DJ RP]

I believe personally there must be a lot of lurkers here who like the idea of liberty but aren't willing to put their wallet where their ideals are. Average donation of $40? I'd say the majority of people could dig deeper. Sell some dvds you don't watch anymoe on ebay. ANYTHING!

[hells_unicorn]

After the debate I'll probably give either $100 or $200, depending on how my schedule figures out. Truth is, the 1.2 million of last week was a last minute rush that likely broke a lot of personal bank accounts. Things will likely pick up later in the month, and I'll be among those donating.

[walt]

"Ron Paul's support fades after third quarter fluke."

The above could very well be tomorrow's headline if we don't continue to support Ron Paul as vigorously and passionately as we possibly can!

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

The truth is we are no where near reaching the fund raising goal set for us this month. We are falling behind! Are we losing hope in a future without the income tax, excessive spending, and violations of our constitutional rights? Do we no longer find a future with more privacy, freedom, and liberty attractive?

Of course not! The Ron Paul Revolution is full of patriotic citizens that will always value small government, the constitution, and freedom! We recognize Ron Paul as the BEST CANDIDATE in the HISTORY of the Republican Party and the true CHAMPION of the constitution!

However, it seems to me we need to STEP THINGS UP if we want him to stay on track and obtain the nomination!

Quite frankly, we need to all dig deep and continue donating to his campaign. Ron Paul is a true fiscal conservative. He would NOT set a goal for 12 million dollars unless he REALLY AND TRUTHFULLY needed that much money to win!

A man with his track record of fiscal responsibility does NOT ask for money unless it is absolutely necessary!

The question now becomes are we going to provide him that money he VITALLY NEEDS to win the GOP nomination?

I think we should all think once again about how significant a Ron Paul presidency would be to all of us. Take a moment and think of how things are right now and how the nation would be dramatically different with Ron Paul as president! Can you even imagine how AWESOME it would be to have a true warrior for SMALL GOVERNMENT as president?

I don't mean mean a double speaking, promise breaking, and constitution violating politician. I mean a true small-government, peace loving, and freedom supporting PATRIOT like Ron Paul!

This dream is what gives me hope for the future. However, it's not just a dream. As of right now Ron Paul is doing well in his campaign. He is gaining supporters and getting more media exposure than ever. If we CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM VIGOROUSLY then he can WIN THE NOMINATION!

That's right, I believe Ron Paul can WIN. Not come in fourth, third, or second. But win the nomination and then the White House!

However, to make this happen we need to meet the goal that Ron Paul has set for us! We are currently far behind. Will you show your dedication to a better future for yourself, your family, and your nation by making a donation or even an additional donation?

It's up to ALL OF US if Ron Paul has the tools he needs to grow his campaign and win the nomination.

Will you help provide him with these tools? Will you dig deep and donate?

The future of this nation depends on YOUR generosity to his campaign!

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

Why post STUPID stuff like this? It only gives the true enemy ammo.

Think before you post.

[theseus51]

ARG. Look, at the end of the third quarter, the official campaign and everyone encouraged supporters to give AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. That apparently was 1.2m in a week. To expect a few days later that we match it is near impossible. People gave all they were willing to at the end of the third quarter, so a week later, I wouldn't expect anywhere near the same amounts.

In time it will pick up, but in the mean time, these negative threads are pointless. They just piss everyone off, just like the other 30 threads in the last week that said the exact same thing.

[hells_unicorn]

ARG. Look, at the end of the third quarter, the official campaign and everyone encouraged supporters to give AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. That apparently was 1.2m in a week. To expect a few days later that we match it is near impossible. People gave all they were willing to at the end of the third quarter, so a week later, I wouldn't expect anywhere near the same amounts.

In time it will pick up, but in the mean time, these negative threads are pointless. They just piss everyone off, just like the other 30 threads in the last week that said the exact same thing.

I agree, the negativity on here is indefensible, it's almost as if certain people here want to whine about something in order to feel important.

[Nash]

DeadheadForPaul,

I'm just being truthful. We are very far behind. I'm not attacking anyone. I realize there are many people who are financially unable to donate.

However, when the average donation is $40 - 45 dollars that means there are a lot of supporters who COULD donate more. If they can donate more NOW is the time to do so!

Ron Paul needs our support. As of right now his campaign costs are going to skyrocket. Advertising, phone banks, literature, and staff will not come cheap. If we want this campaign to grow large enough to WIN the nomination we all need to keep donating!

We actually aren't because the farther along the campaign progresses the more rapid the donations are going to come in.

Getting 12 Million in a quarter doesn't mean 4+4+4 it means something more like 2+4+6.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't donate what we have and I'm not saying the RP doesn't need as much money as possible but I am saying "so far so good".

I'd frankly like to see us shatter that 12 million number and I'm positive that we can do it.

I'll give another 50 bucks tonight.

[SouthernGuy15]

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[fourameuphoria]

Tactical donations, 30 dollars added, five taken away, TOTALLY IRRELEVANT!

[0zzy]

Tactical donations, 30 dollars added, five taken away, TOTALLY IRRELEVANT!

hahahaha
that made me laugh

[Ron Paul Fan]

Tactical donations, 30 dollars added, five taken away, TOTALLY IRRELEVANT!

LOL! This is what I want to see more of around here! Some people don't seem to like it when I twist Ron Paul quotes to fit what I'm saying, but it's comedy gold! You are a true patriot and champion of liberty.

[annamoo]

Soooo I think we should all ban ourselves from posting until we have sold some of our hideous cds from the 80's or 90's or whatever era shames and haunts your cd collection. I sold a few to Soundwaves once and I remember being impressed with my little haul, something like $20 for 4 cds - not bad!

TOMORROW I will once again put my money where my mouth is and donate the contents of my piggy bank. (yes, there is a piggy bank. But its more like a little box and is not remotely porcine, for it does not contain the likeness of the Hillary....) it contains the wee fruits of my labor as a tutor, $50 a week. I have a fat wad of cash in there and once it hits the bank in the morning, I will DONATE.

I was going to save it up, BUT I have been guilted by this thread. SO: mission accomplished in that regard. :) :) :)

Seriously, I think we could all use this excuse to clean out our closets and SELL some stuff on EBAY. I plan to do this as soon as I have time.

From a student in RP's district who is poor, unemployed (except for the tutoring gig) and drives a 20 year old car.

[rycodge]

This is all flawed... Everyone assumes Ron Paul will continue to raise donations at a linear rate. What have we observed over the past 6 months?

Not only will Ron Pauls donations pick up, he will continue to gain more and more supporters. There will be a "meeting in the middle" when the Mainstream Media's Coverage converges with our extravagant grassroots support. Be prepared people, we are going to rise through the ranks of the republican offerings in the next few months.

[Hope]

This is all flawed... Everyone assumes Ron Paul will continue to raise donations at a linear rate. What have we observed over the past 6 months?

Not only will Ron Pauls donations pick up, he will continue to gain more and more supporters. There will be a "meeting in the middle" when the Mainstream Media's Coverage converges with our extravagant grassroots support. Be prepared people, we are going to rise through the ranks of the republican offerings in the next few months.

I for one am not assuming that donations will be linear. However, that isn't the magical happy pill that makes everything all right. $40 per RP supporter is not enough. That needs to be doubled at least.

Yes, getting new RP converts will help move things along. That doesn't take away from our responsibility to donate now more than ever.

[SouthernGuy15]

We all need to donate to boost up the numbers so when new people after tonights debate see the Ron Paul site they will be impressed with the amount being collected.

[SouthernGuy15]

Quite frankly, it's too easy to think, "I don't have to dig deep and donate extra now because in a couple months Ron Paul is going to have a million new supporters! They will be able to donate plenty of money!"

The fact of the matter is for him to get those supporters he needs money RIGHT NOW! He needs as much money as possible.

[Pete]

We actually aren't because the farther along the campaign progresses the more rapid the donations are going to come in.

Getting 12 Million in a quarter doesn't mean 4+4+4 it means something more like 2+4+6.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't donate what we have and I'm not saying the RP doesn't need as much money as possible but I am saying "so far so good".

I'd frankly like to see us shatter that 12 million number and I'm positive that we can do it.

Amen to this, or maybe 3+4+5. Also, the internet component will be something like 2+2.5+3 (a decreasing percentage). There's no need to be negative yet.

Personally, I'm hoping for $20+ million.

[SouthernGuy15]

No, we all need to donate right now.

The mindset that we can "wait" to donate or that the campaign will gain more supporters and "they" will be able to donate is what will cause us to miss our goal!

[Thunderbolt]

A great fundraising idea: Bring the Tax free tips act flier to a ton of restaurants. NY folks, walk all around the city and bring it to every restaurant you pass. I lived there decades ago and needed a job once. I started at 96th and Columbus and ended around 34th and 7th. I stopped in every restaurant asking for a job. I had one by the next day. And I filled out hundreds of job applications. This is much easier.

For you folks not in NY go to malls and other places where there are lots of restaurants and bars. Bring the new slim jims with you. Tell these folks to call their congressmen to vote for this bill and help this guy get elected by everyone donating something at the end of the night.

One flier reaches as many as 1000 folks depending on the type of place. Casinos have tons of dealers. You NV folks, can you go on a run to as many casinos as possible. Hand out the flier to at least 5 dealers you see going on break. One of them is bound to post it in the break room.

The folks make cash every day, and might be willing to part with some cash to help keep all of theirs.

This can be a huge way to get donations. Lots of them. Don't forget bars and cab drivers.

We really need to hit these people while this bill is in congress. There are lots of cities with lots of areas that have a lot of places we can post these things. I would hand write on the bottom that this guy needs our donations so we can keep all of our money. That way they might think someone in their joint wrote it. It may take a few extra seconds to do, but it is so worth it!

http://therobert.org/stuff/rpmq3/TaxFreeTipsFlyer.pdf

You want donations? Those folks want their money! Pretty good marriage don't you think?

God, think of all the money in NYC alone! And casinos, those places are real hot spots!

[fourameuphoria]

LOL! This is what I want to see more of around here! Some people don't seem to like it when I twist Ron Paul quotes to fit what I'm saying, but it's comedy gold! You are a true patriot and champion of liberty.

I just think Ron's tone when he said "Totally Irrelevant!" was just so frickin' hilarious that it pretty much works with *anything*.

[SouthernGuy15]

Fundraising is down so far today! Will the latest headline be, "Ron Paul's support fades after third quarter fluke?"

Please support liberty and freedom by making a donation today!

Ron Paul is in this to win. Will you help him?

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

[SouthernGuy15]

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[walt]

yawn, these posts linking to the donation poage are a waste of space.

[LibertyEagle]

yawn, these posts linking to the donation poage are a waste of space.

Why is that, Walt?

[rrcamp]

A lot of effort on this forum seems to be trying to convince each other to donate more and more. I think sometimes we're preaching to the choir. In just 20 minutes of work I got 9 NEW people to donate (1 even in Switzerland to ChipIn), by simply signing up for the MySpace donation drive here:

http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=25583

We still need like 50 more people! I never even used MySpace before, but this is so damn easy! Plus, it's 100 times better than another thread trying to convince hardcore supporters to donate for the 983094th time..

Just my 2 cents..

[SouthernGuy15]

rrcamp,

I'm all for reaching out to gain new supporters. However, according to the campaign 97% of people who have donated can donate again because they are not maxed out!

[rrcamp]

rrcamp,

I'm all for reaching out to gain new supporters. However, according to the campaign 97% of people who have donated can donate again because they are not maxed out!

They might not be legally maxed out, but they definitely could be maxing out their personal bank account...

I mean, you're right - I'm sure 97% of the people COULD donate more, if maybe only a little. Plus I see the benefit of marketing to proven donors - they're more likely to do it again - but I sometimes just think we spend sooo much time on this that we miss out on getting new blood in here.

[TruckinMike]

If you want more money to come in ---- try this trick..

Post some signs along major interstates!!!!!

On my quest of over 13,000 miles to spot RP signs, I've encountered only 6 signs outside the state of Texas! THIS is ridiculous!!! I spotted six alone in San antonio. Meetup sign parties are great! So why not actually post the signs that you've mADE! We need permenent signs posted on telephone poles, abandoned/unused billboards, trees along the highway(hang them with rope, no nails), farmers barns, on junk cars, tied to barbed wire fences, anywhere and everywhere.

NOTE: even small 18x24 signs work when placed close to the road--- like hanging from a tree. Especially if you put two or three in a row. They do not have to be in the city!!! In fact don'tput them in the city----Thousands upon thousands of bored drivers are just looking for something to read along the UN-Cluttered expanses of our major interstates--- outside of town.. There is NO sign competition there... They will READ the sign!!!!!! SO Please, buy/make at least TEN coroplast signs and post them up!!!!! that'll give Ron Paul $1000 dollars worth of advertising for only $20!!! Use your heads people!

note2: make sure the sign has a message
1.Ron PAul
2.what he's about... ie ---"Champion of the Constitution"
3.and what he's running for --- President '08
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1132/1357613106_142df3f50d.jpg


And Those of you that do NOT have a ridiculously large Ron Paul sign on your car/trucks need to have your heads examined. Get one if you don't have one...a sign I mean:D

Here is my sign... see if you can do better:eek:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2026/1634510657_f6e6a40018_o.jpg

[SouthernGuy15]

A lot of people can afford to donate more. It's just a matter of how seriously they take Ron Paul's campaign. How many people will be going to the movies, buying their favorite beverages, going out for a restaurant dinner, or buying the latest electronic gizmo? Even people who are NOT wealthy can find a way to sacrifice and donate again!

Of course I totally agree we need to reach out to others who don't know about Ron Paul.

[uncloned21]

pft, we're already on track to raise at least 9 mil. however, we do need to be pushing VERY HARD for this. Ask people with land in high-traffic areas if you can place a sign in their yard.

[TruckinMike]

Listen... signs work. They work better than money spent on radio, TV, or newspapers. I know for a fact --- dollar for dollar the small signs plastered around town and country will illicit a better response. If you spend $1000 on radio ads $50 a pop, that'll give you 20 30 second spots to maybe 100,000 --- maybe 500,000 people. But if you spent the same money on 18x24 coroplast signs, at $2 each, thats 500 signs that can be posted throughout town and country.

500 signs x 10,000(modest average) cars a day x 100 days until primaries ==== equals success! --- notice -- its a factor of 100 times greater than the radio ad! And thats assuming only 10,000 folks pass the each sign--- interstate traffic is easily 10 times that, as well as high volume suburban streets.

Signs on your way to work expose you everyday to the RP message... over and over and over. Those of you who discount the effectiveness of signs are not helping this campaign efficiently. Trim the fat, and post a $2 sign!

Put signs up everywhere! ANd do it today!

Thats all I have to say!!

Truckinmike

[Mastiff]

A lot of people can afford to donate more. It's just a matter of how seriously they take Ron Paul's campaign. How many people will be going to the movies, buying their favorite beverages, going out for a restaurant dinner, or buying the latest electronic gizmo? Even people who are NOT wealthy can find a way to sacrifice and donate again!

It's not that people can't afford more, but it's the expected return for the investment. I don't think that if I send $2000 right now it would SIGNIFICANTLY increase Paul's chance at getting elected, but it would be very financially painful for me. If I could be certain it'd get him elected, I'd find $10,000 someplace, maybe more.

This project is good because you offer $100, but only pay if $10,000,000 worth of donors comes through:

http://www.thisnovember5th.com/images/1610188786_5ebdc5da8d.jpg (http://www.ThisNovember5th.com)

[SouthernGuy15]

Mastiff,

That is why you should not "only" donate $2,000 dollars, but reach out to others and tell them WHY it was worth donating!

If we all come up with excuses as to why it's not worth donating then Ron Paul will indeed lose. However, if we all unite together and say this ONE SINGLE TIME we are going to give this campaign EVERYTHING WE CAN then he can WIN!

To win, we must all decide to go all out and tell others to do the same! That is the reason so many third party campaigns have failed. It's because people don't donate nearly as much as they could (or don't donate at all) because they don't think their candidate can win. Because of that, the candidate they would otherwise support becomes DESTINED to lose!

Right now, Ron Paul's campaign is doing LEAPS and BOUNDS better than any other true pro-freedom candidate in the past! If there was EVER a campaign worth supporting it is THIS ONE!

But we must all put our doubts aside and go all out! Just think, you're donation and explanation of why you donated could inspire others to donate and they could inspire others!

We must put out doubts aside if Ron Paul is going to win!

[aksmith]

It's not that people can't afford more, but it's the expected return for the investment. I don't think that if I send $2000 right now it would SIGNIFICANTLY increase Paul's chance at getting elected, but it would be very financially painful for me. If I could be certain it'd get him elected, I'd find $10,000 someplace, maybe more.

This project is good because you offer $100, but only pay if $10,000,000 worth of donors comes through:

http://www.thisnovember5th.com/images/1610188786_5ebdc5da8d.jpg (http://www.ThisNovember5th.com)

Did I miss the fine print on the November 5th thing? I didn't see anywhere that it said that if they don't get ten million you don't donate the 100.

In fact, in politics, early money beats late money. I am afraid that the November 5th money bomb has caused some people to delay their donations. But that's okay. As long as people aren't looking to get their hundred back if we don't reach 10 million.

If we only reach 8 million in one day, will you want your money back? I hope not. This cause is more worthy than going out to eat. It is more worthy than smoking. It is more worthy than giving your kids an extravagant birthday present.

That gives me an idea. Instead of giving someone a birthday present, just give them a card that tells them how much you contributed toward a down payment on freedom by giving it to the Ron Paul campaign.

We'll call it Birthday Presents for Ron.

[rich34]

"Ron Paul's support fades after third quarter fluke."

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/



My goodness man don't give em no ideas! lol. We'll be alright, we'll at the very least match what we done in the 3rd quarter.

[Mastiff]

Did I miss the fine print on the November 5th thing? I didn't see anywhere that it said that if they don't get ten million you don't donate the 100.

In fact, in politics, early money beats late money. I am afraid that the November 5th money bomb has caused some people to delay their donations. But that's okay. As long as people aren't looking to get their hundred back if we don't reach 10 million.

If we only reach 8 million in one day, will you want your money back? I hope not. This cause is more worthy than going out to eat. It is more worthy than smoking. It is more worthy than giving your kids an extravagant birthday present.

That gives me an idea. Instead of giving someone a birthday present, just give them a card that tells them how much you contributed toward a down payment on freedom by giving it to the Ron Paul campaign.

We'll call it Birthday Presents for Ron.

I took it to mean that when they get 10,000 people, we all send in our $100 and make one monster donation. I haven't given this $100 yet.

There are a couple more like this going too, that are more explicit. One is trying for $100M, which may be a stretch, the other is also $10M if I recall.

This really boils down to kind of a economic public good problem. There's almost certainly N people willing to pay 1/N of what it would take to make a huge splash, but it's difficult to get everyone organized to do it.