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bobbyw24
03-16-2010, 11:05 AM
Anyone paying attention knows that John McCain has been a Big-Government Globalist Neocon (BGGN) for virtually his entire senatorial career. As with many BGGNs hiding out in the Republican Party, McCain likes to talk about smaller government, but his track record is littered with the promotion of one big government program after another. But, what else would one expect from a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)?

Lately, however, McCain has outdone himself. He has introduced two bills in the US Senate that are about as Machiavellian as they could be. I am referring to S.3081, a bill that would authorize the federal government to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial, and S.3002, a bill that would authorize the federal government to regulate vitamins, minerals, and virtually all health and natural food products.

According to Examiner.com, "Last week, John McCain introduced a bill into the U.S. Senate which, if passed, would actually allow U.S. citizens to be arrested and detained indefinitely, all without Miranda rights or ever being charged with a crime."

The Examiner report continued by saying "This bill, introduced by McCain, who despite overwhelming evidence, claims to be a 'conservative,' would not only take away our right to a trial, but would also allow the federal government to arrest and imprison anyone the current administration deems hostile.

"Of course, that would be the same administration whose Homeland Security Secretary has classified veterans, retired law enforcement, Ron Paul [and Chuck Baldwin] supporters, and conservatives as 'terrorists.'"

The Examiner report concluded by saying "If it was not clear before, it should be now that John McCain has as little respect for the Constitution as he does for our borders."

Amen!

If Juan McCain gets his way, your constitutional right to a speedy trial by jury is gone, as well as your constitutional right to Habeas Corpus. But, of course, they would attempt to justify this by claiming it is being done in the name of national security and the war on terrorism.


Continue:

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2010/cbarchive_20100316.html

FrankRep
03-16-2010, 11:43 AM
Senators John McCain and Joseph Lieberman introduced a bill on March 4 that would deny civilian trials for those suspected of being enemy belligerents. By Steven Yates

McCain-Lieberman Bill Would Deny Civilian Trials for "Enemy Belligerents"
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/congress/3090-mccain-lieberman-bill

McCain-Feingold and Free Speech
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/3049-mccain-feingold-and-free-speech

Beware of McCain's Freedom-Destroying Dietary Supplement Regulatory Bill
http://www.jbs.org/health-care-freedom-blog/5957-proposed-dietary-supplement-regulatory-bill-

Erazmus
03-16-2010, 01:14 PM
McCain-Lieberman Bill Would Deny Civilian Trials for "Enemy Belligerents"
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/congress/3090-mccain-lieberman-bill

That bill is worse than that. It effectively creates a secret police in the U.S.


ESTABLISHMENT OF INTERROGATION GROUPS.—(1) ESTABLISHMENT AUTHORIZED.—
The President is authorized to establish an interagency team for purposes as follows:

(A) To interrogate under subsection (b) individuals placed in military custody under section 2.

(B) To make under subsection (c)(1) a preliminary determination of the status of individuals described in section 2.

So the interrogation groups (read: torture groups) are responsible for preliminary determination of "High-Value Detainees."


(2) UTILIZATION OF OTHER PERSONNEL.—A high-value detainee interrogation group may utilize military and intelligence personnel, and Federal, State, and local law enforcement personnel, in conducting interrogations of a high-value detainee.

So executive personnel at federal, state, and local level can be in these interrogation groups. Below it gets real nasty.


(1) PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION BY HIGH VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGATION GROUP.—
The high-value detainee interrogation group responsible for interrogating a high-value detainee under subsection (b) shall make a preliminary determination whether or not the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent. The interrogation group shall make such determination based on the result of its interrogation of the individual and on all intelligence information available to the interrogation group.

So the interrogation group interrogates you first, then decides whether or not you're a enemy belligerent.


(2) FINAL DETERMINATION.—
As soon as possible after receipt of a preliminary determination of status with respect to a high-value detainee under paragraph (1), the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General shall jointly submit to the President and to the appropriate committees of Congress a final determination whether or not the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent for purposes of this Act. In the event of a disagreement between the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General, the President shall make the final determination.

(3) DEADLINE FOR DETERMINATIONS.—All actions required regarding a high-value detainee under this subsection shall, to the extent practicable, be completed not later than 48 hours after the detainee is placed in military custody under section 2.

In a nutshell, they have 48 hours to "interrogate" you, for being "suspected" according to the interrogation group, while the Attorney General and the Secretary of Defense decide whether or not you actually are a high-value detainee. Also note the following. One of the items that can make you a HVD (High-Value Detainee is:


(C) The potential intelligence value of the individual.

and


(E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.

This bill scares the crap outta me.