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torchbearer
03-14-2010, 06:38 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35865764/ns/politics/


PARKERSBURG, W.Va. - The retirement nest egg of an entire generation is stashed away in this small town along the Ohio River: $2.5 trillion in IOUs from the federal government, payable to the Social Security Administration.

It's time to start cashing them in.

For more than two decades, Social Security collected more money in payroll taxes than it paid out in benefits — billions more each year.

Not anymore. This year, for the first time since the 1980s, when Congress last overhauled Social Security, the retirement program is projected to pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes — nearly $29 billion more.

Sounds like a good time to start tapping the nest egg. Too bad the federal government already spent that money over the years on other programs, preferring to borrow from Social Security rather than foreign creditors. In return, the Treasury Department issued a stack of IOUs — in the form of Treasury bonds — which are kept in a nondescript office building just down the street from Parkersburg's municipal offices.

Now the government will have to borrow even more money, much of it abroad, to start paying back the IOUs, and the timing couldn't be worse. The government is projected to post a record $1.5 trillion budget deficit this year, followed by trillion dollar deficits for years to come.

Social Security's shortfall will not affect current benefits. As long as the IOUs last, benefits will keep flowing. But experts say it is a warning sign that the program's finances are deteriorating. Social Security is projected to drain its trust funds by 2037 unless Congress acts, and there's concern that the looming crisis will lead to reduced benefits.

'We're here'
"This is not just a wake-up call, this is it. We're here," said Mary Johnson, a policy analyst with The Senior Citizens League, an advocacy group. "We are not going to be able to put it off any more."

For more than two decades, regardless of which political party was in power, Congress has been accused of raiding the Social Security trust funds to pay for other programs, masking the size of the budget deficit.

Remember Al Gore's "lockbox," the one he was going to use to protect Social Security? The former vice president talked about it so much during the 2000 presidential campaign that he was parodied on "Saturday Night Live."

Gore lost the election and never got his lockbox. But to illustrate the government's commitment to repaying Social Security, the Treasury Department has been issuing special bonds that earn interest for the retirement program. The bonds are unique because they are actually printed on paper, while other government bonds exist only in electronic form.

They are stored in a three-ring binder, locked in the bottom drawer of a white metal filing cabinet in the Parkersburg offices of Bureau of Public Debt. The agency, which is part of the Treasury Department, opened offices in Parkersburg in the 1950s as part of a plan to locate important government functions away from Washington, D.C., in case of an attack during the Cold War.

One bond is worth a little more than $15.1 billion and another is valued at just under $10.7 billion. In all, the agency has about $2.5 trillion in bonds, all backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government. But don't bother trying to steal them; they're nonnegotiable, which means they are worthless on the open market.

More than 52 million people receive old age or disability benefits from Social Security. The average benefit for retirees is a little under $1,200 a month. Disabled workers get an average of $1,100 a month.

Social Security is financed by payroll taxes — employers and employees must each pay a 6.2 percent tax on workers' earnings up to $106,800. Retirees can start getting early, reduced benefits at age 62. They get full benefits if they wait until they turn 66. Those born after 1960 will have to wait until they turn 67.

2037 another key year
Social Security's financial problems have been looming for years as the nation's 78 million baby boomers approached retirement age. The oldest are already there. As that huge group of people starts collecting benefits — and stops paying payroll taxes — Social Security's trust funds will shrink, running out of money by 2037, according to the latest projection from the trustees who oversee the program.

The recession is making things worse, at least in the short term. Tax receipts are down from the loss of more than 8 million jobs, and applications for early retirement benefits have spiked from older workers who were laid off and forced to retire.

Stephen C. Goss, chief actuary for the Social Security Administration, says the crisis has been years in the making. "If this helps get people to look more seriously at that in the nearer term, that's probably a good thing. But it's only really a punctuation mark on the fact that we have longer-term financial issues that need to be addressed."

In the short term, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that Social Security will continue to pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes for the next three years. It is projected to post small surpluses of $6 billion each in 2014 and 2015, before returning to indefinite deficits in 2016.

For the budget year that ends in September, Social Security is projected to collect $677 billion in taxes and spend $706 billion on benefits and expenses.

Social Security will also collect about $120 billion in interest on the trust funds, according to the CBO projections, meaning its overall balance sheet will continue to grow. The interest, however, is paid by the government, adding even more to the budget deficit.

While Congress must shore up the program, action is unlikely this year, said Rep. Earl Pomeroy, D-N.D., who just took over last week as chairman of the House subcommittee that oversees Social Security.

"The issues required to address the long-term solvency needs of Social Security can be done in a careful, thoughtful and orderly way and they don't need to be done in the next few months," Pomeroy said.

The national debt — the amount of money the government owes its creditors — is about $12.5 trillion, or nearly $42,000 for every man, woman and child in the country. About $8 trillion has been borrowed in public debt markets, much of it from foreign creditors. The rest came from various government trust funds, including retirement funds for civil servants and the military. About $2.5 trillion is owed to Social Security.

Good luck to the politician who reneges on that debt, said Barbara Kennelly, a former Democratic congresswoman from Connecticut who is now president of the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare.

"Those bonds are protected by the full faith and credit of the United States of America," Kennelly said. "They're as solid as what we owe China and Japan."

mczerone
03-14-2010, 06:51 PM
Scary. Especially the nonchalant attitude:


"Those bonds are protected by the full faith and credit of the United States of America," Kennelly said. "They're as solid as what we owe China and Japan."

So, these IOUs that "are not worth anything on the open market" are what Japan and China can count on for payment on their bonds?

I'm sure this will all turn out fine, after all, the government is in charge.

(In all honesty though, its about time to ask your employer to peg your salary to a commodity market, as $50k will soon be worth mere peanuts)

AuH20
03-14-2010, 06:56 PM
Obama has stated earlier that if necessary he will redirect the anticipated health care revenue into the dwindling SS pool. I'm of the mind, this was their prime objective from the start, knowing that the American people would never acquiesce to a wholesale rescue of Social Security and the onerous taxes associated with such a save.

torchbearer
03-14-2010, 07:53 PM
I just hope it happens sooner rather than later.

HOLLYWOOD
03-14-2010, 08:12 PM
Not anymore. This year, for the first time since the 1980s, when Congress last overhauled Social Security, the retirement program is projected to pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes — nearly $29 billion more.

I wonder what that equates to in this Depression of who's really paying into the system compared to 1980.

When revenues exceed expenditures, as they have in most years, the excess is invested in special series, non-marketable U.S. Government Bonds thus the Social Security Trust Fund indirectly finances the federal government's general purpose deficit spending. In 2007, the cumulative excess of Social Security taxes and interest received over benefits paid out stood at $2.2 trillion.[/URL]

1977 Amendment - Congress passed and Carter signed legislation fixing the double-indexing mistake. This amendment also altered the tax formulas to raise more money, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_%28United_States%29#cite_note-www.ssa.gov.659-77)increasing withholding from 2% to 6.15%. President Carter remarked, "Now this legislation will guarantee that from 1980 to the year 2030, the Social Security funds will be sound."

1983 Amendment - The National Commission on Social Security Reform (NCSSR), chaired by Alan Greenspan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan), was empaneled to investigate the long-run solvency of Social Security. The NCSSR recommended enacting a six-month delay in the COLA and changing the tax-rate schedules for the years between 1984 and 1990. It also proposed an income tax on the Social Security benefits of higher-income individuals, a previously-enacted increase in the payroll tax rate was accelerated, additional employees were added to the system, the full-benefit retirement age was slowly increased, and up to one-half of the value of the Social Security benefit was made potentially taxable income. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_%28United_States%29#cite_note-51)

For 2009, the employee's share is 6.2% of gross compensation up to a limit of $106,800 of compensation (resulting in a maximum tax of $6,621.60). This limit, known as the Social Security Wage Base, goes up each year based on average national wages and, in general, at a faster rate than the Consumer Price Index (CPI-U). The employee's share of the Medicare portion is 1.45% of wages with no limit. The employer is also liable for separate 6.2% and 1.45% Social Security and Medicare taxes, respectively, making the total Social Security tax 12.4% and the total Medicare tax 2.9% of wages. (Self-employed people are responsible for the entire FICA percentage of 15.3% (= 12.4% + 2.9%)


Did You Know...

Exemption for certain full-time students

A special case in FICA regulations includes exemptions for student workers. Students enrolled at least half-time in a university and working part-time for the same university are exempted from FICA payroll taxes, so long as their relationship with the university is primarily an educational one.


[url]http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-05-11.pdf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Insurance_Contributions_Act_tax#cite_note-5)


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Koz
03-14-2010, 08:13 PM
I have been telling my clients for years that are under 50 to not count on SS for retirement income. I may move it to 60.

HOLLYWOOD
03-14-2010, 08:39 PM
Did anyone catch the Jimmy Carter timeline?

Let's quote it again, for it's so indicative of eevery government Program/Ponzi scheme:


1977 Amendment - Congress passed and Carter signed legislation fixing the double-indexing mistake,the amendment altered the tax formulas to raise more money, increasing withholding from 2% to 6.15%.

That Uncle Sugar Mistake, cost the American Workers and Businesses a 207.50000000000003% INCREASE in Social Security deductions.

Now imagine the Socialist Health Care and number spewing they are doing now and what it will cost down the road.

torchbearer
03-16-2010, 08:45 AM
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puppetmaster
03-16-2010, 09:43 AM
can we all say PONZI

FrankRep
03-16-2010, 09:46 AM
Ponzi Schemes and Social Security
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/economy/commentary-mainmenu-43/2669-ponzi-schemes-and-social-security



Social Security Trust Fund in Red, Drawing on Federal IOUs
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=235965

Social Security’s Nest Egg is Officially Cracked
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=235970

ctiger2
03-16-2010, 10:12 AM
No worries. The US is good as Gold.

Brian Defferding
03-16-2010, 10:51 AM
Our Neo-cons and Democrats will be constantly defending their concept that this debt won't be bad, this spending won't be bad, and tax rises to pay for this growing program will be a good thing.

Good luck with that.