torchbearer
03-14-2010, 06:27 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35863029/ns/business-retail/
DENVER - Kristie McNealy blogs from her suburban Denver home about raising four children and health issues. Her husband, Rob, a floor installer, runs another Web site offering product reviews and advice on hardwood floors.
It's not just for fun. Whenever someone clicks on a link to buy a book or product that their sites mention from an online seller, the McNealys get a commission. And if that customer comes back the next day to that same retailer and buys a television, they get a cut of that, too.
Last week, the McNealys, along with at least 4,000 others like them, lost a chunk of their business when Amazon.com announced it was cutting ties with its Colorado-based affiliate marketers — Web sites and bloggers that help it sell products.
In severing those ties, Amazon blamed a new state law requiring it to collect up to an estimated $4.6 million in online sales taxes a year, which will help the state close a $1.3 billion budget shortfall.
Kristie McNealy said the move will mean a loss of roughly $300 a month, money that has helped make up for a drop in her husband's income during the recession and enabled her to stay home and homeschool her children. She worries other companies may follow Amazon's lead.
"Losing the Amazon account has been a financial blow, but losing the rest of our accounts will change the way my husband and I do business and provide for our family," McNealy said.
Amazon has dropped affiliates in two other states — North Carolina and Rhode Island — that passed laws requiring the company to collect state sales tax on online purchases. Those states claimed that in-state affiliates were akin to outposts for online retailers, and therefore the companies had to collect sales tax. Getting rid of the affiliates got Amazon off the hook from doing so.
In Colorado, the situation is different. The state's new law doesn't link paying the tax to the presence of affiliates; instead, it requires out-of-state retailers to help enforce collection of the 2.9 percent state tax that online consumers in Colorado are technically supposed to pay already, though few know about it or do it.
Each year, retailers would have to tell their customers what taxable items they bought and that they need to pay the tax to Colorado. Retailers also would have to turn over those documents to the state to help enforce the law.
State revenue officials have acknowledged that retailers may want to avoid all of that, and just collect the tax themselves.
Backers of the law say that Amazon still will have to comply, whether it has affiliates in Colorado or not. So why did Amazon fire the affiliates? To make a point in a larger battle over online sales taxes, and to deter other states from adopting Colorado's approach, they believe.
Democratic state Sen. Michael Johnston of Denver said the affiliates are being used as hostages by Amazon.
"They're punishing the one hostage they can kill, so they're killing them," he said.
Katharine Leppert, a Denver freelance writer who uses money earned on her blogs to cover costs and justify the time spent on her hobby, said she's angry at Amazon for dropping her.
"They are throwing their weight around and using power that no corporation should have," she said.
An Amazon spokeswoman declined to comment on the issue.
In an e-mail to Colorado affiliates, Amazon didn't directly say what cutting them had to do with the new tax. The company said the law was aimed at inducing it to collect taxes itself and that it would reinstate the affiliates if the law was repealed or if Colorado followed a "constitutional" approach to collecting taxes.
A 1992 U.S. Supreme Court ruling found that states can only make companies collect sales tax if they have a physical presence in the state to prevent out-of-state sellers from having to deal with thousands of separate tax jurisdiction.
Republican Sen. Greg Brophy of Wray thinks Amazon might be trying to avoid possible liability for paying back taxes in case it loses a pending legal challenge to New York's online sales tax. That first "Amazon law," passed in 2008, does link the requirement to pay to online affiliates based in New York.
Brophy said it doesn't really matter why Amazon did what it did and that he wants Colorado's law repealed to help affiliates. Majority Democrats aren't inclined to do so, saying that would reward what they see as corporate bullying.
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what pisses me off about this article are the people who are pissed at amazon and not the fucking government for taxing the business to begin with.
people are so fucking stupid. makes me want to throw something.
DENVER - Kristie McNealy blogs from her suburban Denver home about raising four children and health issues. Her husband, Rob, a floor installer, runs another Web site offering product reviews and advice on hardwood floors.
It's not just for fun. Whenever someone clicks on a link to buy a book or product that their sites mention from an online seller, the McNealys get a commission. And if that customer comes back the next day to that same retailer and buys a television, they get a cut of that, too.
Last week, the McNealys, along with at least 4,000 others like them, lost a chunk of their business when Amazon.com announced it was cutting ties with its Colorado-based affiliate marketers — Web sites and bloggers that help it sell products.
In severing those ties, Amazon blamed a new state law requiring it to collect up to an estimated $4.6 million in online sales taxes a year, which will help the state close a $1.3 billion budget shortfall.
Kristie McNealy said the move will mean a loss of roughly $300 a month, money that has helped make up for a drop in her husband's income during the recession and enabled her to stay home and homeschool her children. She worries other companies may follow Amazon's lead.
"Losing the Amazon account has been a financial blow, but losing the rest of our accounts will change the way my husband and I do business and provide for our family," McNealy said.
Amazon has dropped affiliates in two other states — North Carolina and Rhode Island — that passed laws requiring the company to collect state sales tax on online purchases. Those states claimed that in-state affiliates were akin to outposts for online retailers, and therefore the companies had to collect sales tax. Getting rid of the affiliates got Amazon off the hook from doing so.
In Colorado, the situation is different. The state's new law doesn't link paying the tax to the presence of affiliates; instead, it requires out-of-state retailers to help enforce collection of the 2.9 percent state tax that online consumers in Colorado are technically supposed to pay already, though few know about it or do it.
Each year, retailers would have to tell their customers what taxable items they bought and that they need to pay the tax to Colorado. Retailers also would have to turn over those documents to the state to help enforce the law.
State revenue officials have acknowledged that retailers may want to avoid all of that, and just collect the tax themselves.
Backers of the law say that Amazon still will have to comply, whether it has affiliates in Colorado or not. So why did Amazon fire the affiliates? To make a point in a larger battle over online sales taxes, and to deter other states from adopting Colorado's approach, they believe.
Democratic state Sen. Michael Johnston of Denver said the affiliates are being used as hostages by Amazon.
"They're punishing the one hostage they can kill, so they're killing them," he said.
Katharine Leppert, a Denver freelance writer who uses money earned on her blogs to cover costs and justify the time spent on her hobby, said she's angry at Amazon for dropping her.
"They are throwing their weight around and using power that no corporation should have," she said.
An Amazon spokeswoman declined to comment on the issue.
In an e-mail to Colorado affiliates, Amazon didn't directly say what cutting them had to do with the new tax. The company said the law was aimed at inducing it to collect taxes itself and that it would reinstate the affiliates if the law was repealed or if Colorado followed a "constitutional" approach to collecting taxes.
A 1992 U.S. Supreme Court ruling found that states can only make companies collect sales tax if they have a physical presence in the state to prevent out-of-state sellers from having to deal with thousands of separate tax jurisdiction.
Republican Sen. Greg Brophy of Wray thinks Amazon might be trying to avoid possible liability for paying back taxes in case it loses a pending legal challenge to New York's online sales tax. That first "Amazon law," passed in 2008, does link the requirement to pay to online affiliates based in New York.
Brophy said it doesn't really matter why Amazon did what it did and that he wants Colorado's law repealed to help affiliates. Majority Democrats aren't inclined to do so, saying that would reward what they see as corporate bullying.
read the rest at the link.
what pisses me off about this article are the people who are pissed at amazon and not the fucking government for taxing the business to begin with.
people are so fucking stupid. makes me want to throw something.