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bobbyw24
03-10-2010, 06:15 AM
UTICA, New York - More than twice as many U.S. adults (58%) say that debt owed to China is a more serious threat to the long-term security and well-being of the U.S than is terrorism from radical Islamic terrorists (27%).


Interestingly there was little variation by party identification with a majority of Democrats, Republicans and independents all agreeing that the debt owed by the United States to China poses the greater threat. Opinion was consistent across all other major demographic and political sub-groups.

This question was asked in a Zogby Interactive survey of 2,068 U.S. adults conducted from Feb. 17-19, 2010. The poll has a margin of error of +/-2.2%. Here are the results:

When you think about the long-term security and well-being of the U.S., which of these do you believe is a more serious threat?


http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1824

purplechoe
03-10-2010, 06:28 AM
well, now we're getting somewhere... baby steps...

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/O/2/3/debt-to-china.jpg

http://www.sitnews.us/Columns/0309/032609_farrington.jpg

purplechoe
03-10-2010, 06:36 AM
http://latestfinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/debt-posters.jpg

fisharmor
03-10-2010, 06:39 AM
Sure, baby steps... we'll know we're closer when the poll has the follow-up question: "Did you know that Osama bin Laden declared this to be his goal in 2004, and the debt to China means we lost the war on terror?"

sratiug
03-10-2010, 06:44 AM
http://digg.com/politics/Americans_Say_US_Debt_Bigger_Threat_Than_Terrorism

sofia
03-10-2010, 07:22 AM
Sure, baby steps... we'll know we're closer when the poll has the follow-up question: "Did you know that Osama bin Laden declared this to be his goal in 2004, and the debt to China means we lost the war on terror?"

Actualy, Bin Laden was killed in 2001...a fact that former Prime Minister Bhutto of Paksitan confirmed before Cheney had her executed. Bin Laden was making too many video tapes proclaiming his inniocence and accusing Zionists of 911...so he had to be liquidated. Can't have the truth getting out there about 9/11 can we?

Also, China is not the number 1 holder of US Debt....not even close to # 1.

The #1 holder BY FAR is the privately run Federal Resreve Bank. Media keeps puttting out the China disinfo to deflect from what we owe the Fed.

RM918
03-10-2010, 07:49 AM
About freaking time. Car accidents are a bigger threat to the country than goddamned terrorism.

Juan McCain
03-10-2010, 08:19 AM
. . . and the debt to China means we lost the war on terror?"

Yes, with the Romney and the Rush and Hannity parrotting of how we are "safer" for
chasing after an expensive mirage, people need to recognize this loss of financial security as well as the great loss of over 4000 more lives.

We are giving up liberties for safety . . . and getting neither - for all those human and financial costs and effort.

Bern
03-10-2010, 08:53 AM
The total debt - not just the debt to China - is the elephant in the room.

catdd
03-10-2010, 09:01 AM
"Americans Say Debt to China More Serious Threat Than Terrorism"


This is a good sign.

sratiug
03-10-2010, 02:27 PM
bump for diggs

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
03-10-2010, 03:56 PM
UTICA, New York - More than twice as many U.S. adults (58%) say that debt owed to China is a more serious threat to the long-term security and well-being of the U.S than is terrorism from radical Islamic terrorists (27%).


Interestingly there was little variation by party identification with a majority of Democrats, Republicans and independents all agreeing that the debt owed by the United States to China poses the greater threat. Opinion was consistent across all other major demographic and political sub-groups.

This question was asked in a Zogby Interactive survey of 2,068 U.S. adults conducted from Feb. 17-19, 2010. The poll has a margin of error of +/-2.2%. Here are the results:

When you think about the long-term security and well-being of the U.S., which of these do you believe is a more serious threat?


http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1824

In other words, if they can't come over here and take it, it ain't real. Peace keeps the economy viable while wars create a whole new market that follow after a new set of rules.
The nation of China is operating in the market created by the United States at the end of World War 2. As the rest of the world was in a shambles, we lent it out trillions of dollars. So, just consider the Chinese debt as her price of admission and that repaid to the nation which saved her from tyranny.
If she can't come over here and collect the debt, then the debt don't exist. So, quit worrying about the Chinese. It is the American people we need to worry about. As the American people own the economy, as we own all property, this is the reason we should force the government to be fiscally responsible

awake
03-10-2010, 04:10 PM
The interesting part will be the propaganda that allows the U.S. to not pay up while blaming China the evil lender.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
03-10-2010, 05:12 PM
The interesting part will be the propaganda that allows the U.S. to not pay up while blaming China the evil lender.

How much would it cost China to collect debt from Taiwan? How many trillions would such a military operation cost? How many trillions would it cost them to collect from Europe? It would be impossible for China to collect debt from the United States and foolish for them to try. Now, I could see them yawning one day before rolling north to take half of Russia. Debt only equals the ability to collect it. If one can't afford to collect it, then it is just a wise investment. Hmmm . . ..

Bern
03-11-2010, 07:19 AM
The problem is that all worldwide foreign debt is like a huge house of cards. If China pulled their cards from the structure, the structure would collapse (including China's economy). No G20 country is good enough at Jenga to extricate themselves at this point.

If you want a real good example of this, pay attention to what is happening in Greece right now and the potential collapse of the EU because of it.