Romney says number of Ron Paul Devotees is not growing inspite of win at CPAC

[bobbyw24]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/09/romney-to-tea-party-movement-no-third-party-bids/

[BillyDkid]

Romney is a complete POS.

[Fozz]

Romney is a partisan Republican hack.

[Bruno]

The potential presidential candidate also dismissed his second place finish to Texas Rep. Ron Paul in last month's Conservative Political Action Conference Straw Poll, which he chalked up to libertarian collusion. Paul's win broke Romney's three year winning streak in the straw poll.

"The good thing about libertarians is that when they are called to show up somewhere they do, and when they get a call in the night saying, 'Hey, we need you to show up at CPAC or show up at a straw poll or show up at an event,' they will show up, and you've got to congratulate them for that," he said.

"But I don't think there is a growing portion of Americans who are, if you will, Ron Paul devotees, but he has an influence, and we welcome his participation in the party. It's a big tent party."



Hey, lookie there - Mitt Romney welcomes Ron Paul's participation in the Republican Party! Thanks, Mittster! :rolleyes:

[Ireland4Liberty]

This man has zero ideology hence his many flip flops. I actually find him very amusing.:o

[Juan McCain]

Romney : The potential presidential candidate also dismissed his second place finish to
Texas Rep. Ron Paul in last month's Conservative Political Action Conference Straw Poll,
which he chalked up to libertarian collusion."

. . . And constitutionalist collusion and anti-Wilsonian conservatives collusion and fiscal conservatives collusion . . .
we will ALL be colluding against Mitt in New Orleans now as well.

Neocons of the military industrial (congressional) complex . . . that's the real collusion
that everyone needs to break up.

[Elwar]

I was wondering what Romney would use to try to discredit his many future straw poll wins.

It appears that his is his first attempt at such a strategy.

When he wins the Iowa Straw poll by 50,000, Romney can just say...well, Ron Paul has an active base but it's not growing.

[sailingaway]

If Ron Paul's support hasn't grown, why didn't he win CPAC for the last three years? It isn't as if his supporters were less fervent. Clearly there IS more support now.

Plus, coming from Romney it is really disingenuous to imply that this was 'merely organization of people with no lives who will show up anywhere any time' (which is how I read what he says). Isn't Romney the guy who reportedly paid people salaries to go to straw polls? And he got more votes this year at CPAC himself than ever, so at very minimum, he was out organized with sheer volunteer power.

[bobbyw24]

Thanks for posting the pertinent quotes as I posted from my cell phone and could only post the link. Also title should say despite and not inspite of

[jkr]

#1 "we" are not "devotee's" of any PERSON
#2 How would you know MItt?
#3 Does not matter what you think or say anymore, people are on to you
#4 I like cats-believe me, its just as relavent

[angelatc]

"But I don't think there is a growing portion of Americans who are, if you will, Ron Paul devotees, but he has an influence, and we welcome his participation in the party. It's a big tent party."

Remember the scene in Animal House, where the two recruits showed up at the Frat House and kept getting steered back over to the sofa? Apparently Romney fancies himself as Otter, the rush chairman.

[rancher89]

^^^snort giggle

[TonySutton]

Hey there is only one otter here ;)

[The Deacon]

This is one of those instances of trying to convince yourself that it is true by saying it out loud.

[dean.engelhardt]

"The former Massachusetts governor on Monday warned the grassroots movement not to mount third party efforts in general elections, which he said would siphon votes from Republican nominees."

How about Romney giving us a compelling reason to vote for him beside the good of the party?

A government for the two-party system and by the two-party system.

[johnrocks]

I so hope Ron Paul runs in 2012 and kicks his ass!

[Fozz]

If Ron Paul's support hasn't grown, why didn't he win CPAC for the last three years? It isn't as if his supporters were less fervent. Clearly there IS more support now.

But now the Ron Paul people are more effective at colluding :rolleyes:

[Cowlesy]

Oh mittens, we are not "Ron Paul devotees" as you suggest, but we rather choose to put our support behind the most honest man who is willing to spend his time in Washington D.C. trying to support the contents of the U.S. Constitution.

The more elitists like mittens poo-poo guys like Ron Paul, the more divided the party will be.

[pcosmar]

I care not for his welcome.

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/political-pictures-mitt-romney-fudge-packing.jpg

[LibertyMage]

The correct response to this is:

What are you going to do to prove Mitt Romney wrong?

That only way we are going to accomplish this is to win and keep winning. Our next win is here:

http://battleofneworleans2010.com/

Unfortunately, we only have 5 people signed up to make this win happen. If we loose, Mitt may very well be correct about the Liberty Movement.

[specsaregood]

I so hope Ron Paul runs in 2012 and kicks his ass!

Just wait for the comparison youtubes. This so called business/economy expert vs. the country doctor.

Michigan debate:


BARTIROMO: Governor Romney, here in Detroit, Michigan, alone, one in every 29 homes went into foreclosure
in the first six months of the year.

Whose job is it to fix this problem? The government or private enterprise?

ROMNEY: It's everybody's job. It's inexcusable that Michigan is undergoing a one-state recession,
that the rest of the country is growing and seeing low levels of unemployment,
but Michigan is seeing ongoing, high levels of unemployment, almost twice the national rate.

ROMNEY: Industry is shrinking here, jobs are going away. This is just unacceptable.
And, therefore, everyone's going to have to come together to solve the problem.

And that means, from the president's standpoint, the president's going to have to stand up and say --
you know what? -- to the auto industry: The door's always open. We're ongoing to work with you
make sure that you have a listening ear and someone who will participate with labor and with management.

Number two, we're going to make sure that we invest in technology and research.
A lot of that relate into energy, fuels, automotive research like material sites to help boost Michigan once again.

We're going to have to fix the schools, as Newt Gingrich pointed out. 22 percent of Detroit kids don't -- excuse me, 22 percent graduate from high school. That's unacceptable.

We're also going to have to do a better job keeping our taxes down.
Jennifer Granholm has made a big mistake by raising taxes. I was, frankly, a little nervous to --
about being here tonight. I figured she was going to pot a tax on the debate before we got finished.

And we're going to have to go to work, as well, to make sure that there's a level playing field around the world,
as we compete, to make sure that American goods are pushing into other markets, but goods coming overseas aren't
getting an advantage, as they do now, with embedded taxes.

There's a lot we can do to strengthen Michigan. And in some respects, what Michigan is seeing,
the entire nation is going to see, unless we take action now to get Michigan stronger.




MATTHEWS: OK.

Congressman Paul, I think you have questions and concerns about the bonanza in the hedge fund industry. Do you?

PAUL: Yes. I think this is not a consequence of free markets. What's happening is, there's transfer of wealth from the poor and the middle class to the wealthy.

PAUL: This comes about because of the monetary system that we have. When you inflate a currency or destroy a currency, the middle class gets wiped out.

So the people who get to use the money first which is created by the Federal Reserve system benefit. So the money gravitates to the banks and to Wall Street.

That's why you have more billionaires than ever before. Today, this country is in the middle of a recession for a lot of people. Michigan knows about it. Poor people know about it. The middle class knows about it. Wall Street doesn't know about it. Washington, D.C., doesn't know about it.
But it's because of the monetary system and the excessive spending. As long as we live beyond our means we are destined to live beneath our means.

And we have lived beyond our means because we are financing a foreign policy that is so extravagant and beyond what we can control, as well as the spending here at home.

And we're depending on the creation of money out of thin air, which is nothing more than debasement of the currency. It's counterfeit. And it is a natural, predictable consequence that you're going to have people benefit from it and other people suffer.

PAUL: So, if you want a healthy economy, you have to study monetary theory and figure out why it is that we're suffering. And everybody doesn't suffer equally, or this wouldn't be so bad.

It's always the poor people -- those who are on retired incomes -- that suffer the most. But the politicians and those who get to use the money first, like the military industrial complex, they make a lot of money and they benefit from it.

[specsaregood]

Unfortunately, we only have 5 people signed up to make this win happen. If we loose, Mitt may very well be correct about the Liberty Movement.

I'm thinking it would help greatly if we got an official confirmation that RP is speaking at the event and when. That hasn't been released yet has it?

[Stary Hickory]

Romney is wrong on all accounts. I am Libertarian and I was poltically not involved before and basically supportive of Republicans because of what they said(obviously not because of what they did).

So there is one here who is no longer a R voting tool for Republicans. The whole Tea Party to a large degree is an occurence do to many tenets of libertarianism. Albeit with some warhawk neocons in the mix. Romney is fooling himself and so is the GOP. They already lost big one time as a result of ignoring the values of limited government and freedom, it seems they still have not learned their lesson.

[Juan McCain]

I'm thinking it would help greatly if we got an official confirmation that RP is speaking at the event and when. That hasn't been released yet has it?

Saturday, April 10 . . . the speakers are between noon and 5 pm

http://www.srlc2010.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SRLC-Agenda-Draft.pdf

No, I wouldn't expect SRLC to advertise quite yet that Ron Paul has accepted his invitation.

But all come out to the free musical festival in New Orleans that weekend anyway.

[specsaregood]

Saturday, April 10 . . . the speakers are between noon and 5 pm
http://www.srlc2010.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SRLC-Agenda-Draft.pdf
No, I wouldn't expect SRLC to advertise quite yet that Ron Paul has accepted his invitation.

Right so still no official announcement. RP could or CFL could make the official announcement, we don't need the SRLC to. As it is, it is still unconfirmed.

[tremendoustie]

Hey Romney:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&r=2y&u=campaignforliberty.com&&u=ronpaulforums.com&u=dailypaul.com&u=lewrockwell.com&u=mises.org&


Notice any trends since, say, the beginning of 2009?


Now let's compare a couple of these with your sites:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&r=2y&u=freestrongamerica.com&&u=http://committedtoromney.com/&u=campaignforliberty.com&u=dailypaul.com&


Hmmm ...

[bobbyw24]

Hey Romney:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&r=2y&u=campaignforliberty.com&&u=ronpaulforums.com&u=dailypaul.com&u=lewrockwell.com&u=mises.org&


Notice any trends since, say, the beginning of 2009?


Now let's compare a couple of these with your sites:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&r=2y&u=freestrongamerica.com&&u=http://committedtoromney.com/&u=campaignforliberty.com&u=dailypaul.com&


Hmmm ...

Thanks-very informative and interesting

[Deborah K]

Queen of de Nile.

[tremendoustie]

Queen of de Nile.

You said it :)

[Bruno]

Thanks-very informative and interesting

+ 1

[Matt Collins]

Is he packing or shoveling?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

if Mitt Romney was president, multiple-marriage would be legal :D

[MelissaWV]

if Mitt Romney was president, multiple-marriage would be legal :D

As tempting as it is to say "woohoo!" to that, I'd rather a President that just backed the Government entirely out of marriage altogether. Then multi-marriage would be legal, and so would marrying your favorite chair. :D

[Ninja Homer]

Romney is just jealous. His support has gone down, and that's after spending, what, $50 million plus of his own money on them?

[Imperial]

Romney welcomed us into the Republican Party. At this point, I have to wonder if the libertarians are the ones who would have to welcome him first.

[Juan McCain]

I'm thinking it would help greatly if we got an official confirmation that RP is speaking at the event and when. That hasn't been released yet has it?


Saturday, April 10 . . . the speakers are between noon and 5 pm

http://www.srlc2010.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SRLC-Agenda-Draft.pdf

No, I wouldn't expect SRLC to advertise quite yet that Ron Paul has accepted his invitation.

But all come out to the free musical festival in New Orleans that weekend anyway.


Right so still no official announcement. RP could or CFL could make the official announcement, we don't need the SRLC to. As it is, it is still unconfirmed.

Not sure what ya' need for an official announcement . . . SRLC prolly won't for quite a while.
http://www.srlc2010.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SRLC-Agenda-Draft.pdf

I am of the understanding here on RPF that Ron Paul had said he would be speaking on Saturday April 10 in New Orleans.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=234477

Also, that C4L distributed this announcement - cut and pasted below.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=234095


Hello Everyone,

Thank you for volunteering with Campaign for Liberty at CPAC this year, it was an amazing success!
We could not have won the Straw Poll without all of your efforts. If you are still energized and would like to volunteer again, we have an event for you!

From April 8-11 the Southern Republican Leadership Conference will be held in New Orleans. Tickets are available for $120.
This conference is also held at the same time as the French Quarter Festival, so there will be plenty going on!

SRLC is conducting a Straw Poll that Ron Paul will be included in, so volunteering at this event will be similar to that of CPAC.
Let's keep the momentum going and show the Republican Establishment what Campaign for Liberty is made of!

If you are interested in volunteering, please email Allison Gibbs at allisonzayne@gmail.com and
CC Carolyn Moffa as well at carolyn.moffa@campaignforliberty.com.
Otherwise, please spread the word to anyone you know who might be interested and have them contact us.

We hope to see you there!
Sincerely,

The Outreach Team
Campaign for Liberty

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/12onpaul.jpg

[specsaregood]

Not sure what ya' need for an official announcement . . .
Well I'm saying that other than a single post on RPFs there is no other claims that RP is speaking at the event that I have seen. (not that I don't trust torch, but most other people don't know him). If you guys really want people to start planning on attending we need some sort of official announcement either from RP, the MSM or CFL.

[Athan]

Romney can suck it. What a fucking moron that guy is.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Romney helped pull the door open for socialist hell care. Everyone should be reminded of this fact in the run up to 2012.

[rp08orbust]

Well I'm saying that other than a single post on RPFs there is no other claims that RP is speaking at the event that I have seen. (not that I don't trust torch, but most other people don't know him). If you guys really want people to start planning on attending we need some sort of official announcement either from RP, the MSM or CFL.

I suspect that most people who are holding back from committing to attend the straw poll are doing so because they're waiting to see C4L's cheap tickets up for sale.

The delay might be because C4L is trying to figure out how to handle the Freeper threat. I hope they figure that out soon, because valuable time is slipping away.

[ctiger2]

Mitt, should we go to war? I don't know, let me consult with my attorneys.

[Fox McCloud]

under the complete off-cuff chance Ron Paul won the Republican primary for 2012, what would Mitt Romney (and others that think like him) say? The "libertarians colluded to undermine the Republican party and get Ron Paul elected the Republican nominee"?

[Liberty Stud]

Hey Mittens, how did the back of Dr Paul's hand taste when he bitchslapped you at CPAC?

[rp08orbust]

Hey Mittens, how did the back of Dr Paul's hand taste when he bitchslapped you at CPAC?

About like it will feel if Ron gets bitchslapped by Romney or Palin at the SRLC. It's way too early to be gloating.

[bobbyw24]

Especially because Romney doesn't believe there is a significant third party possibility out there. Even in light of Ron Paul's big straw poll win -- over him and the entire field -- at the CPAC convention last month.

"I don't really see any change in the Libertarian effort," he said. "There has long been a Libertarian strain in American politics and it typically comes together with the Republican party."

What about Paul's win over Romney? Small in number, but they know how to organize he said.

"The good thing about Libertarians is that when they are called to show up somewhere they do. When they get a call in the night ... to show up at CPAC or show up at a straw poll or show up at an event, they'll show up. You've got to congratulate them for that. But I don't think there is a growing portion of Americans who are Ron Paul devotees. But he has an influence and welcome his participation in the party."

"It's a big tent party," he added.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/0309/Mitt-Romney-Tea-Party-movement-is-great-as-long-as-they-vote-Republican

[BillyDkid]

all the media is saying that Romney is the presumptive candidate. what that means is that he has been preordained by the powers that be to be the acceptable candidate. I would give my right nut to see him humiliated by Ron Paul in the primaries. The media and the GOP will put all their effort into elliminating RP as a threat, but we have the numbers if we will just get coordinated. I made the ultimate sacrifice by joining the GOP just to vote for RP in the primaries. Of course, all this presumes that Ron will run. I tell you what though, the ball better not get fumbled this time around like it did in New Hamshire last time. He's catchin' on I tell ya. There was no excuse for that after all the money we sunk into it.

[Juan McCain]

About like it will feel if Ron gets bitchslapped by Romney or Palin at the SRLC. It's way too early to be gloating.

but that is not really coming from Romney or Palin - they are both airheads.
Those $700 VIP tickets to SRLC will be sold to their supporters . . .
so maybe that's collusion with the bailout czar supporters - more of a squeeze play.

Palin on the stump for the bailout . . . duhhh.

YouTube - Sarah Palin Talks Bailout Proposal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txfqWzGMgmY&feature=related)

RP gets slapped around by much of the media anyway . . . and has been infallibly really in being right each time.
Ron Paul IS running against the establishment though f'r sure.

But he'll be the one doing any bitchslappin'

[pacelli]

If they lose, they won't, and they will get behind the more conservative of the two finalists."

Well I guess that means nobody will be getting behind you there, Mitt.

[rp08orbust]

Come on guys, let's prove Mitt Romney wrong! This is pathetic:

http://battleofneworleans2010.com/

There are unclaimed free tickets available in the Southern Republican Leadership Conference sub-forum.

Let's hear some ideas about how to promote this harder. I'll start:

1. Mass PM from the admin. I sent out PMs five at a time about CPAC to everyone with 1,000 or more posts in May 2009. It was tedious, and I'd do it again, but the admin could save me a lot of time and keystrokes.

2. If anyone knows Trevor Lyman, try persuading him to send an email about the straw poll to his moneybomb mailing list. Of the perhaps 20,000 of the email addresses that would still be valid, there would have to be a few hundred in Louisiana and the surrounding area.

[JamesButabi]

Yep we need to make sure we have a strong showing at SRLC. I will sponsor someone!

[wildturkey]

Im a little late, but I would just like to add my "Romney is a piece of shit" bit. If there was a definition of political wind, party hack, Bush/Cheney clone; he is the first in on the page.

[Badger Paul]

"The good thing about libertarians is that when they are called to show up somewhere they do, and when they get a call in the night saying, 'Hey, we need you to show up at CPAC or show up at a straw poll or show up at an event,' they will show up, and you've got to congratulate them for that," he said."

Yeah, I hear Mormons are like that too.

[Matthew Zak]

Romney is a complete POS.


Romney is a partisan Republican hack.


This man has zero ideology hence his many flip flops. I actually find him very amusing.:o

All true, but that doesn't mean he's wrong. Does Ron Paul have more supporters now? How do you measure that? Would he do any better in the next election?

If anything, we should use Romney's words as a battle cry and go recruit as many supporters as possible.

[tremendoustie]

All true, but that doesn't mean he's wrong. Does Ron Paul have more supporters now? How do you measure that? Would he do any better in the next election?

If anything, we should use Romney's words as a battle cry and go recruit as many supporters as possible.

I'm all for recruiting more supporters. But I think the answer the question is most certainly "Yes!".