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Agorism
03-07-2010, 11:42 AM
Is there a difference between the two like in the presidential race?

rp08orbust
03-07-2010, 11:43 AM
Is there a difference between the two like in the presidential race?

Fun is fun.

brandon
03-07-2010, 11:45 AM
You can't have a stripper party until after you win the election.

GunnyFreedom
03-07-2010, 11:47 AM
Yes, the "clock" starts over on max donations once the primary is over.

Agorism
03-07-2010, 11:58 AM
So can all of Grayson's and all of Rand's funds be used in the primary?

Or is there a split somehow?

torchbearer
03-07-2010, 12:00 PM
So can all of Grayson's and all of Rand's funds be used in the primary?

Or is there a split somehow?

the funds can be used at any time. even in future elections.
the limits are in the donations- $2400 per person for the primary and $2400 per person for the general.

Technically, you personally can donate a $4800 check to Rand. It will be considered a donation for the 2010 cycle. He can only use $2400 of that money during the primary. This doesn't happen often since people want to see you win the primary before donating to the general.

Sine Die
03-07-2010, 12:29 PM
So can all of Grayson's and all of Rand's funds be used in the primary?

Or is there a split somehow?

TG has somewhere around $70K of his end of 4Q total tied up in contributions earmarked for the general election. They can only be spent if he pulls off the upset in the primary election.

Nearly all of Rand Paul's contributions are primary contributions.

Agorism
03-07-2010, 12:31 PM
So when people donate to Rand, it can go to either.

Why would Trey specify that that money is only for general?

torchbearer
03-07-2010, 12:36 PM
So when people donate to Rand, it can go to either.

Why would Trey specify that that money is only for general?

he didn't. he would want access to that money now.
grayson has very wealthy people in washington backing him.
they cut him those $4800 checks i was talking about previously.
basically, about 30 rich fucks/senators donated max to him and will lose their chump change.

Sine Die
03-07-2010, 12:39 PM
So when people donate to Rand, it can go to either.

Why would Trey specify that that money is only for general?

Because the contributors have already given the individual maximum for the primary. If they want to give more, it has to be earmarked for the general. TG just has a lot more contributors writing $4,800 checks than Rand Paul does.

Most of Paul's contributions are from smaller donors that haven't maxed out their primary contribution limit yet.

It is a significant problem for TG that he cannot use at least $70K of his campaign funds.

Fozz
03-07-2010, 12:50 PM
How much cash on hand does each candidate have?

Sine Die
03-07-2010, 01:23 PM
How much cash on hand does each candidate have?

Difficult to say at this point. The most recent public numbers are from 4Q 2009, and with two months of fundraising and spending since then they are very unlikely to reflect the current reality.

Agorism
03-07-2010, 01:25 PM
At end of Q3 they were about even with money on hand if you subtract Grayson's general election money that was tied up right?

Rand has raised about 200K and will maybe end with 300-400K after this month and money bomb.

Grayson's fundraising has been going down too though each quarter.

Matt Collins
03-07-2010, 01:42 PM
Both the Dem and Rep primary victor will be basically broke. This is going to be a brutal primary. It would be wise for Trey to drop out, for the good of the Party.

Matt Collins
03-07-2010, 01:43 PM
How much cash on hand does each candidate have?
http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=KYS2&cycle=2010


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Aratus
03-07-2010, 04:18 PM
Trey's 70 grand seperate sum from the $4800 max double*checks could also be seed money for a 2o11 Gov mansion run?

Sine Die
03-07-2010, 05:05 PM
Trey's 70 grand seperate sum from the $4800 max double*checks could also be seed money for a 2o11 Gov mansion run?

No. In Kentucky, as a candidate, one cannot co-mingle funds raised for a federal race and those raised for a state race.

TCE
03-07-2010, 05:47 PM
No. In Kentucky, as a candidate, one cannot co-mingle funds raised for a federal race and those raised for a state race.

Exactly right. Which is why Marcus from Bluegrass Bulletin suggested Grayson drop out and transfer it to the Kentucky Republican Party so they can support Rand and Congressional Candidates. If Grayson does drop out, he can begin raising funds for a Governor's run.

Agorism
03-07-2010, 06:04 PM
Maybe Rand should oppose Grayson for governor if he drags this thing out and goes all negative as he has been doing so far.